From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7501 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80149 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2011 10:42:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2011 10:42:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2011 10:42:06 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2011 10:42:04 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2011 10:42:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:42:02 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=H1ykltGpKVYA_xjn4aLRZ7zdsD_Nf9hzefaW4Xm5sF8FcSSJQb3thcxfMTEt X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Esque auxilingua.org ne plu funkciona? ka alqui save? Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7502 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Quankam me ne povas garantiar olua justeso, me ipsa auda= cos probar tradukar nia frazo #27 aden Interlingua de IALA. Voluntez emenda= r mea posibla erori! Interlingua: Ancora le pisce non es sur le croc. Ka= tote justa? Ka plubonigebla? Se posibla, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo = (adminime un versiono) aden plusa LIA-sistemi, por ke me povez adjuntar oli= en mea nexta listo. Adavane, kolegaro! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a = * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" skribis: Karega posta_Mundi-ani: Yen nia frazo #27, qua proviz= ore tradukesis sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la 6 sequanta helpo-lingui = o LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Eurikido, LdP, Populido. Esperant= o: Ankorau la ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko. Ankorau la gajno ne estas en = la mano. Ido: Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hoko. Ankore la fisho ne div= enis disho. Ne ja la ganajo atingis la plajo. Novial: Ankore li fishe non= ha deveni dishe. Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu. Eurikido: Stil isti = albrikoko no trovaset in le boko. Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le fo= ko. Stil isti beli fixo no poneset ain le dixo. Stil isti toti kaxo no trov= aset in le taxo. LdP: Haishi fish bu es in dish. Kalamar es haishi in mar= . Gansa haishi fai dansa. Populido: Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok. Ankor t= i fish no divenab dish. No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. Se posibla, vol= untez tradukar nia frazo #27, sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca= , aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Interlingua, Idiom Ne= utral, Latino sine Flexione, Volap=FCk, Glosa, Neo, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, = edc. Danko e predando pri via kunlaboro, amiki! * * * * * * * * p a = r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7503 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Voluntez atencar la nova dokumento, quan jus= kargesis en nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi). Dokumento: /projekto_del_tito= lo3.pdf Responsanto: r0st0 Deskripturo: 3= plusi variantes in un dokumento Por acesar la nova dokumento, kliktez su= r la suba ligilo: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/proje= kto_del_titolo3.pdf Til venonta komuniko. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * *= * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: Saluto, posta_Mundi-ani! Yen ke jus kargesis plusa dokumen= to che nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi). Dokumento: /projekto_del_titolo2.pdf= Responsanto: r0st0 Voluntez juar la nova= dokumento hike: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/proje= kto_del_titolo2.pdf Itere danko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * = * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: Estimata samforumani: Plezas a me informar vi omn= a, ke jus kargesis nova dokumento che nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi). D= okumento: /projekto_del_titolo.pdf Responsanto: r0st0 Voluntez acesar la nova dokumento del sequanta ligilo: http:= //es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/projekto_del_titolo.pdf D= anko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7504 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 93933 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2011 15:25:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2011 15:25:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc4-s23.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.226) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2011 15:25:14 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W5 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s23.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:25:13 -0800 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: posta_mundi Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:25:13 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2011 15:25:13.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B3FD100:01CBCAC9] From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=bcXPIWxYtriecEM4GjwaN8jDG8a6FBzW4E0NdgaLMbM X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kar amiko Se vu serchas la situo di Jay Bowks, vu serchas la 'IAL Wikia'= : http://ial.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page ------------------------------= ---------- > To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > From: rostislav-levchenko@ya= ndex.ru > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:42:02 +0000 > Subject: [posta_Mundi] qu= o eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? > > Esque auxilingua.org ne plu funkc= iona? ka alqui save? > > Rosto. 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 26986 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2011 16:50:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m12.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2011 16:50:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2011 16:50:38 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2011 16:50:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2011 16:50:37 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:50:36 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=RhaqYTd7Yg9GdCeKO5HonI2crkXQHvmyk7KB-S4O5KaEGHkBBYwXSbc X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Ho, yes, kara James! IAL-Wikia. E ta IAL-Wikia ofras en sua frontispico = (me preske obliviabis lo!) mikra info en plura lingui, lore konstruktita lo= re natural. Yen oli, tal qual oli aparas ordinite: Ido, Portugalana, Inter= lingua, Angla, Espo, LFN. Danko e til balde! * * * * * * * * p a r t a = k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler = skribis: Kar amiko Se vu serchas la situo di Jay Bowks, v= u serchas la 'IAL Wikia': http://ial.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page --= -------------------------------------- > To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > = From: rostislav-levchenko@... > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:42:02 +0000 > Sub= ject: [posta_Mundi] quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? > > Esque auxil= ingua.org ne plu funkciona? ka alqui save? > > Rosto. 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53070 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2011 01:16:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2011 01:16:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2011 01:16:34 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 01:16:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 01:16:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:16:31 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [NOVAJI] Kargesis nov arkivo en posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=SovVdGIxwgCok4dn6Q3yqnkb-IpPPO5dv7S9BdN6xTzR0ivEDWytQPc X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Hola, Rosto! Danko pro tua desegnuri por la frontispico dil jurnalo POSTA = MUNDI. Me certe preferas kom definitiva la duesma modelo dil triesma projet= o, nome olta sama kam l'unesma modelo, ma sen la blua konturo. Me joyas ke= tu risaneskis pasable rapide, pos maladeskir tote ne-expektite. Gratuli e= d adavane, amiko! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@ya= hoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: Maxim kordi= al saluto, amiki! Voluntez atencar la nova dokumento, quan jus kargesis= en nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi). Dokumento: /projekto_del_titolo3.pdf = Responsanto: r0st0 Deskripturo: 3 plusi variant= es in un dokumento Por acesar la nova dokumento, kliktez sur la suba lig= ilo: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/projekto_del_tito= lo3.pdf Til venonta komuniko. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7508 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60322 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2011 15:53:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2011 15:53:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2011 15:53:20 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 15:53:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 15:53:19 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:53:19 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=XSThwG3C9HmNSrtXssSywX_yBqZG5Rr7qAXu_91abtlvLOm4aykpYx81AhSr X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Danko, James. Mi serchav un altri kozo, e hazarden deskovrav, que kun "auxi= lingua.org" alquo stranji eveniv. Alquande mi esev inskibat in ti "auxlingu= a.org". Ti situo esev plu komodi por explorar, mi pensa. E, heh, mi vide, q= ue Occidental no plu es in favor. Ya, tempes chanja, kozes chanja. Si mi nu= n vel no esev informat, que ial.wikia.com es kontinuacion de ti projekto, m= i nul-quande vel suspekta to. Oldi materiales, semblen, desapariv kompleten= . Nu, isto dependa de nos omni, evoluar li nuni projekto ial.wikia.com . Fo= rsan mi skribara alquo pri alquel mie temas in ti wikia, quande mi havera l= iberi tempo. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler = escribi=F3: > > > Kar amiko > > Se vu serchas la situo di Ja= y Bowks, vu serchas la 'IAL Wikia': > > http://ial.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Pa= ge > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > To: posta_Mund= i@yahoogroups.com > > From: rostislav-levchenko@... > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2= 011 10:42:02 +0000 > > Subject: [posta_Mundi] quo eveniv kun li situo auxil= ingua.org? > > > > Esque auxilingua.org ne plu funkciona? ka alqui save? > = > > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7509 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37254 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2011 17:10:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2011 17:10:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2011 17:10:14 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 17:10:13 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 17:10:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:10:12 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "ila_mesajero" Subject: [VIDEO] Esperanto - Universalaj Kongresoj 1905-2010 ***** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=fk61w98IOEGbjRpA5MRCnwAMzTxpchPyI79I1H_eDmAiqcuz0owi X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero & & & & & & & & & & & & Esperanto - Universalaj Kongresoj 1905-2010 (= 5' 08'') ***** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnHIY3MYW1OU & & & & & &= & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7510 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 10400 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2011 17:45:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2011 17:45:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2011 17:45:09 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 17:45:06 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 17:45:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:45:05 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: jurnal "Posta Mundi" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=OlGge0PKjCGNwmBaYjzaZUHcGXyK-YU1ujufwP_SBgok1IeUCMDehpxfs5du X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kar amikes, quande mi skriptav pri diversi temas in li jurnal "Posta Mundi"= , mi obliviav anque pri isti du importanti: 1)Pri linguas, precipuen artifi= cial. Forsan alqui pova dicer, que uzar artificial linguas por skribar pri = artificial linguas es stulten. Ma li jurnal "Posta Mundi" have su interni i= d=E9a, quel es dialogo inter diversi IALes, e alquel teoretik bazo esera ut= il por isto. 2)Religio e ateismo - sempre vivi tema, quel atrakta atenciono= . Multi homes-interlinguistes no vizita li forumo "Posta Mundi", ili no es = interesant pri nostri forumo, ma forsan ili lektara li jurnal. Ya, li jurna= l es un altri kozo. Isto vel ese util, si materiales del jurnal vel ese kap= abli provokar disputes. Esera bon, si lektantes no restara tranquili e dezi= rara disputar. Jurnales IAListik, quel es skribat in un aparti IAL, exist= e por exister, e por exersar lingua. Por demonstrar, que un lingua es uzat.= Li jurnal "Posta Mundi" no propagandara alquel aparti IAL. It esera un ins= trumento por propagandar id=E9es, propagandar vostri id=E9es, si vi have le= s. E isto esera un instrumento de publik relaciones del forum "Posta Mundi"= . Li skopo no es krear un grandi jurnalo, ma krear un jurnalo atraktiv, amu= zant, interesant. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7511 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4789 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2011 17:50:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2011 17:50:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2011 17:50:50 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 17:50:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2011 17:50:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:50:47 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=a0Avbcdgs2sgEkgYcfOK4WF9nHs4mnMxeXb_rejuD04fDQB7axMPBhQ X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kara Rosto: Esis advere tre bona, ke l'amiko James montris a tu la voyo ad= en IAL-Wikia; tamen, me nun konjektas, ke to, quon tu esis serchanta, esas = ne "auxilingua.org", ma "auxlang.org" (la situo da Robert Petry), ube Occid= ental duras esar la chefa helplinguo, ed ube tua nomo duras aparar kom mem= bro. Se me juste memoras, "IAL-Wikia" esas situo plu anciena kam "auxlang= .org". Til balde! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribis:= Danko, James. Mi serchav un altri kozo, e hazarden deskovrav, que kun "au= xilingua.org" alquo stranji eveniv. Alquande mi esev inskibat in ti "auxlin= gua.org". Ti situo esev plu komodi por explorar, mi pensa. E, heh, mi vide,= que Occidental no plu es in favor. Ya, tempes chanja, kozes chanja. Si mi = nun vel no esev informat, que ial.wikia.com es kontinuacion de ti projekto,= mi nul-quande vel suspekta to. Oldi materiales, semblen, desapariv komplet= en. Nu, isto dependa de nos omni, evoluar li nuni projekto ial.wikia.com . = Forsan mi skribara alquo pri alquel mie temas in ti wikia, quande mi havera= liberi tempo. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Cha= ndler escribi=F3: Kar amiko Se vu serchas la situo di Jay Bo= wks, vu serchas la 'IAL Wikia': http://ial.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page = ---------------------------------------- To: posta_Mundi@...= m From: rostislav-levchenko@ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:42:02 +0000 Subject:= [posta_Mundi] quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? Esque auxilingua.or= g ne plu funkciona? ka alqui save? Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7512 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=gfvpg5-r9x07XRNlrSxiD-jku3Fgbfezmjf4ailx3pSOTH6C2Qg8 X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero --0-1536166810-1297648549=:35503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Mesajo da Antonio, che plura Ido-forumi) Kar amiki, quale vi ja sav= as mi tradukas kelkafoye poemi ed anke kelkafoye me skribas originala haik= u-i* en Ido. Ma icafoye, pos la Mikra Kurseto por Infanti, quan vi povas= lektar che Parolez Ido, me facis nova ludo en Ido por mea gelernanti. Me = deskovris utila pagino por mea gelernanti, ube me povas facar edukad-ludo = pri irga temo. Tale, me facis mea unesma Ido-ludeto por ni e por li! Lude= z se vi volas a mea unesma mikra Idala ludo! http://haikuido.blogspot.com/= Nun me pensas facar blogo o pagino kun multa simila ludi. Se ulu volas, n= i povos kunlaborar. Amikale, Antonio. --0-1536166810-1297648549=:35503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Kar amiki,

quale vi ja savas mi tradukas kelkafoye poe= mi ed anke kelkafoye me skribas originala haiku-i* en Ido.

Ma ica= foye, pos la Mikra Kurseto por Infanti, quan vi povas lektar che Parolez Id= o, me facis nova ludo en Ido por mea gelernanti. Me deskovris utila pagino = por mea gelernanti, ube me povas facar edukad-ludo pri irga temo. Tale, me = facis mea unesma Ido-ludeto por ni e por li!

Ludez se vi volas a m= ea unesma mikra Idala ludo!

http://haikuido.blogspot.com/
Nun me pensas facar blogo o pagino kun multa simila ludi. Se ulu vol= as, ni povos kunlaborar.

Amikale, Antonio.


--0-1536166810-1297648549=:35503-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7513 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46544 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2011 12:35:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2011 12:35:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2011 12:35:20 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 12:35:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 12:35:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:35:16 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #27 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=laUE8f7Edl_0w-7vPDHcf-QOMuii_UTzC_J9g7vygmngsGQG_JaP0qQ X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kordial saluto, amiketi! Kad ulu de vi savas Mondlango/Ulango? Se yes, ta= voluntez korektigar, se necese, mea tradukuro de nia frazo #27 aden tal he= lpo-linguo, quan me nule dominacas, ma qua semblas bazesar en Espo ed Ido. = Mondlango/Ulango: Ankore la fixo ne esan sur la huko. Se omno esas justa = ed en ordino, me certe adjuntos en mea nexta listo amba tradukuri de nia fr= azo #27, nome olta en Interlingua ed olta en Mondlango. Dume, me duras ex= pektar plusa versioni di nia frazo en altra LIA-sistemi qual Volap=FCk, Idi= om Neutral, Occidental/Interlingue, LFN, edc. Kurajo ed adavane, estimati= ! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yah= oogroups.com, "postamundi" skribis: Tik-tak, p_M-ani! = Quankam me ne povas garantiar olua justeso, me ipsa audacos probar tradukar= nia frazo #27 aden Interlingua de IALA. Voluntez emendar mea posibla erori= ! Interlingua: Ancora le pisce non es sur le croc. Ka tote justa? Ka p= lubonigebla? Se posibla, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo (adminime un ver= siono) aden plusa LIA-sistemi, por ke me povez adjuntar oli en mea nexta li= sto. Adavane, kolegaro! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * *= * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" skrib= is: Karega posta_Mundi-ani: Yen nia frazo #27, qua provizore tradukesi= s sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la 6 sequanta helpo-lingui o LIA-sistemi= : Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Eurikido, LdP, Populido. Esperanto: Ankorau l= a ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko. Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano. = Ido: Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hoko. Ankore la fisho ne divenis disho.= Ne ja la ganajo atingis la plajo. Novial: Ankore li fishe non ha deveni= dishe. Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu. Eurikido: Stil isti albrikoko= no trovaset in le boko. Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko. Stil = isti beli fixo no poneset ain le dixo. Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in l= e taxo. LdP: Haishi fish bu es in dish. Kalamar es haishi in mar. Gansa = haishi fai dansa. Populido: Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok. Ankor ti fish = no divenab dish. No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. Se posibla, voluntez= tradukar nia frazo #27, sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca, ade= n altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Interlingua, Idiom Neutral= , Latino sine Flexione, Volap=FCk, Glosa, Neo, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, edc. = Danko e predando pri via kunlaboro, amiki! * * * * * * * * p a r = t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7514 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 10512 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2011 16:36:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2011 16:36:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2011 16:36:00 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 16:36:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 16:36:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:36:00 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: Por kunlaborar en la jurnalo POSTA MUNDI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=KYD21__h5HmoX7d_nw4YLyRHiccmALjX_6jLseQihuP5lDI81DKMiR4 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Omna ti, qui deziras kunlaborar en la #1 dil jur= nalo POSTA MUNDI, voluntez sendar artikli, frazi, citaji famoza, espritaji,= poemi, edc., (admaxime til la 20ma di februaro) al sequanta e-adreso por = ke l'amiko Rosto, chefa redaktero dil revuo, povez organizar ed aranjar om= no justa-tempe: enioni@... Me pregas vi divenar kun-redakteri di PM= per via texti skribita nur en neutra helpo-lingui: Espo, Ido, Interlingua,= Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idioms Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, edc.= , (inter le maxim konocata e prestijoza), ma anke en altra LIA-sistemi min = anciena e konocata. Predanko por via grava kunlaboro en la jurnalo POSTA = MUNDI, mem che olua unesma numero. Vi omna standez bone, kampioni! P A R= T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7515 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75404 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2011 00:34:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2011 00:34:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2011 00:34:17 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2011 00:34:17 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2011 00:34:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:34:14 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "ila_mesajero" Subject: [VIDEO] Latina - AENEIDOS I 747-756, II 1-17 ***** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=z7DoQWDgEljrob8NXgjVQ6Q1WYXEwNtGW9Sdk1fH8FzQY4jQ2SVW X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero & & & & & & & & & & & & Latina - AENEIDOS I 747-756, II 1-17 (1' 51''= ) ***** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvxrFpiRU5OY & & & & & & & & &= & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7516 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61219 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2011 16:55:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2011 16:55:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2011 16:55:43 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2011 16:55:42 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2011 16:55:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:55:39 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: [MM] Le help-lings exter ENIONI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=XAV8Up5VEUvQG6_fXXwDylwy25xxOT8h4xaiuPoZ7dMhY5w6VMd7D5g X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Le help-lings for le model ENIONI & frats no ese interkomprenebli. Esere bo= n ke, mem sen renuntie singli projet-ling partikular, on povere konkorde pr= i le max apti model no-ENIONI-al, ed on prizentere nur un model, mem se ol = esere nur 20% interkomprenebli kun ENIONI-lings e frats. Ka no? (Partaka) = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7517 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Si tu dice 80%, isto tande merita parl= ar. Mi alquande in Tomsk esev che lekciono de un profesor de matematika, qu= el rakontav, que un foy il admirigav su kolego ex Grekia che alquel interna= cional simpozium. Il prendev un libro in moderni greki lingua e komensav tr= adukar li texto (versimilen al anglesi, mi pensa). Li greko questionav, "Es= que vu studiav greki lingua?". E nostri profesoro dicev, que no, isto es nu= r savo de sciencial termines. Nu, on deve haver ti forti intelekto de profe= soro de matematika por rekonstruar li senso de un texto in moderni greki li= ngua nur segun su savo de sciencial termines... Tamen tande ti historia imp= resav me. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Le help-lings for le model ENIONI & frats > no = ese interkomprenebli. Esere bon ke, mem > sen renuntie singli projet-ling p= artikular, > on povere konkorde pri le max apti model > no-ENIONI-al, ed on= prizentere nur un model, > mem se ol esere nur 20% interkomprenebli > kun = ENIONI-lings e frats. Ka no? > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7518 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95148 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 00:38:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2011 00:38:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 00:38:18 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 00:38:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 00:38:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:38:14 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "ila_mesajero" Subject: [VIDEO] Esperanto - Pri Lidepla (LdP) **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=MwR9DeBaCgJx6BcXJJCg74Gu4QyeOEmfp7aXpzvyRT4EaT4JJOrI X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero & & & & & & & & & & & & Esperanto - Pri Lidepla (LdP) (4' 21'') **** h= ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAcBdBA-q0Zs & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7519 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45941 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 02:30:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2011 02:30:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 02:30:36 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 02:30:36 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 02:30:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:30:36 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [MM] Le help-lings exter ENIONI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=1TH_5xsTc5FuZSx49XxEOQ2ucz70M0OwMOOdK4ZaDWANREKd8LfXiVQ X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi To, ko me vol dice per mei mesaj es, ke samei kam me ips prefere le model E= NIONI kom LIA-sistem por le tot mond, altri homs darfe prefere altri model,= kel es for ENIONI-familie, e kel on baze ankei sur altri ling-grups de n= osi planet. ENIONI-lings ese interkomprenebli, ma ti altri lings no ja pos= ede model, ed ols no ese interkomprenebli. Se ya, se existere tal model, on= posiblei esere interesat lernesk ol, mem se ol prizentere nur 20% komun ku= n ENIONI, nam on talei povere kompren plur LIA-sistem per studie nur un. Po= r plen interkompren, on simplei devere lerne du model: olti ENIONI ed olti= ALTRI. Provizorei. (Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st= 0" skribab: Partaka, mi pensa, que 20% es tro mi= kri "koeficiento de util laboro", praktiken isto signifika disipar energio.= Si tu dice 80%, isto tande merita parlar. Mi alquande in Tomsk esev che le= kciono de un profesor de matematika, quel rakontav, que un foy il admirigav= su kolego ex Grekia che alquel internacional simpozium. Il prendev un libr= o in moderni greki lingua e komensav tradukar li texto (versimilen al angle= si, mi pensa). Li greko questionav, "Esque vu studiav greki lingua?". E nos= tri profesoro dicev, que no, isto es nur savo de sciencial termines. Nu, on= deve haver ti forti intelekto de profesoro de matematika por rekonstruar l= i senso de un texto in moderni greki lingua nur segun su savo de sciencial = termines... Tamen tande ti historia impresav me. Rosto. --- En posta_= Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: Le help-ling= s for le model ENIONI & frats no ese interkomprenebli. Esere bon ke, mem se= n renuntie singli projet-ling partikular, on povere konkorde pri le max apt= i model no-ENIONI-al, ed on prizentere nur un model, mem se ol esere nur 20= % interkomprenebli kun ENIONI-lings e frats. Ka no? (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7520 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 88685 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 07:59:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2011 07:59:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 07:59:51 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 07:59:51 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 07:59:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:59:48 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] Le help-lings exter ENIONI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=JK8Ym_GKRUKLGqyUh5hdAouKvOaz1pSQty2HN9AtyKI_eS2ZAgoSsDinh2Hx X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Romanik linguas have cirka 500 miliones denaski parlantes; Germanik linguas= have cirka 500 miliones denaski parlantes; Slavik linguas have cirka 500 m= iliones denaski parlantes. Nun existe plu-min klari piktura de inter-romani= k, inter-germanik e inter-slavik auxilinguas. Esque on nun pova krear alque= l intersistema Roman-German-Slav? Mi tre dubita pri to. Isti tri es tro dif= erent. E omni tri, inter-romanistes, inter-germanistes e inter-slavistes, m= i have tal impresiono, uza precipue arkaik tavoles in su lingual familias, = pro que isto es to, quo es komun. Inter-romanik linguas es maxim inter-komp= rendebli kun euroklones, ma li diferenso es ti, in su id=E9a: li euroklones= uza li maxim moderni lingual tavolo. Ya, isto es li esencio del euroklones= : isto es linguas de moderni vivo. Ili segun su id=E9a deve eser mobil e ch= anjebli. Konservar euroklones, ligar les al diversi fundamentes, permisar p= or kelki vortes in un yaro devenir "oficial" - omno isto es kontre logika. = Euroklonik linguas es un fenomeno unik. Exter ENIONI, quel es li euroklone= s klasik, noi darfa dicer pri euroklones plu moderni o in toten moderni, qu= el nun es uzat: Omnial, Eurikido, Ikuso, ARIEL, Medilingua, Komunikando, Po= pulido, Sibelingua, quo mi obliviav? Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogro= ups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > To, ko me vol dice p= er mei mesaj es, > ke samei kam me ips prefere le model > ENIONI kom LIA-si= stem por le tot mond, > altri homs darfe prefere altri model, kel es > for= ENIONI-familie, e kel on baze ankei sur > altri ling-grups de nosi planet= . ENIONI-lings > ese interkomprenebli, ma ti altri lings no ja > posede mo= del, ed ols no ese interkomprenebli. > Se ya, se existere tal model, on pos= iblei esere > interesat lernesk ol, mem se ol prizentere nur > 20% komun ku= n ENIONI, nam on talei povere > kompren plur LIA-sistem per studie nur un. = > Por plen interkompren, on simplei devere lerne > du model: olti ENIONI e= d olti ALTRI. Provizorei. > (Partaka) > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7521 Return-Path: X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78867 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 08:16:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2011 08:16:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 08:16:08 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 08:16:07 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 08:16:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:16:07 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "lingwadeplaneta" Subject: RE: [MM] Le help-lings exter ENIONI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=1a7n3IiqE3lQRNzQlx9s609WE3imEWM7f2J-SkCQV3FUngbqT-s9QaiG X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Kare amigas, me dumi ke, dabe inkarni idea de LIA, treba probi diverse d= ao, diverse resolva. Bay farke varianta toy idea kwasi shuki swa-ney inkarn= a. Por to me suporti oli LIA, i ENIONI-simile, i otre. Me dumi, ke sol plur= alisma es prave dao, toy dao kel helpi inkarni idea de LIA. Por to hi me pr= i Posta Mundi e Kunfrataro de Artefaritaj Lingvoj. Al laste taim apari much= o proyekta ausen ENIONI-sistema, e a me to sembli ga naturale kosa, natural= e evolusion de interlingwistika. Generalem, es kontra-utile tu opini, ke ko= y lingwas es "pyu egale kem otres", walaa fin. Dmitri --- En posta_Mund= i@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > To, ko me = vol dice per mei mesaj es, > ke samei kam me ips prefere le model > ENIONI = kom LIA-sistem por le tot mond, > altri homs darfe prefere altri model, kel= es > for ENIONI-familie, e kel on baze ankei sur > altri ling-grups de n= osi planet. ENIONI-lings > ese interkomprenebli, ma ti altri lings no ja >= posede model, ed ols no ese interkomprenebli. > Se ya, se existere tal mod= el, on posiblei esere > interesat lernesk ol, mem se ol prizentere nur > 20= % komun kun ENIONI, nam on talei povere > kompren plur LIA-sistem per studi= e nur un. > Por plen interkompren, on simplei devere lerne > du model: olt= i ENIONI ed olti ALTRI. Provizorei. > (Partaka) > > > --- En posta_Mundi= @yahoogroups.com, > "r0st0" skribab: > > Partaka, = mi pensa, que 20% es tro mikri "koeficiento de util laboro", praktiken isto= signifika disipar energio. Si tu dice 80%, isto tande merita parlar. > Mi = alquande in Tomsk esev che lekciono de un profesor de matematika, quel rako= ntav, que un foy il admirigav su kolego ex Grekia che alquel internacional = simpozium. Il prendev un libro in moderni greki lingua e komensav tradukar = li texto (versimilen al anglesi, mi pensa). Li greko questionav, "Esque vu = studiav greki lingua?". E nostri profesoro dicev, que no, isto es nur savo = de sciencial termines. Nu, on deve haver ti forti intelekto de profesoro de= matematika por rekonstruar li senso de un texto in moderni greki lingua nu= r segun su savo de sciencial termines... Tamen tande ti historia impresav m= e. > > Rosto. > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Le help-lings for le model ENIONI & frats > no= ese interkomprenebli. Esere bon ke, mem > sen renuntie singli projet-ling = partikular, > on povere konkorde pri le max apti model > no-ENIONI-al, ed o= n prizentere nur un model, > mem se ol esere nur 20% interkomprenebli > kun= ENIONI-lings e frats. Ka no? > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7522 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13870 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 11:40:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2011 11:40:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 11:40:51 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 11:40:51 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 11:40:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:40:51 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] Le help-lings exter ENIONI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=AAXIcT1GsRkubJCjRbhgB1mvLxd6wv77Dt61HY4symQ7_viLLYapNuuxdcNR X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Namast=E9, Dmitri. Tamen, si LdP devenira suficianten populari, tande rapid= en aparira multi lideploides, e pluralismo tande esera simil al pluralismo = de linguas sur Tera. Mi pensa, que tande tu certen no esera felisi. Isto nu= n es profitozi por LdP, no augmentar su populareso tre rapiden, ma evolucio= nar tranquilen e konstanten, sin multi konkurentes in su specio. Si mi dic= e, que mi es kontre ne-euroklones in li jurnalo, isto relata precipue a tal= linguas quale Lojban, Kotava, Toki Pona, Sona, Volap=FCk, Ro e altri simil= kapdoloro. Koncernu LdP - nu, forsan, on mem pova regardar it quam semi-eu= roklon, o forsan quam exotik euroklon... Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoog= roups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" escribi=F3: > > > > Ka= re amigas, > > me dumi ke, dabe inkarni idea de LIA, treba probi diverse d= ao, diverse resolva. Bay farke varianta toy idea kwasi shuki swa-ney inkarn= a. Por to me suporti oli LIA, i ENIONI-simile, i otre. Me dumi, ke sol plur= alisma es prave dao, toy dao kel helpi inkarni idea de LIA. Por to hi me pr= i Posta Mundi e Kunfrataro de Artefaritaj Lingvoj. Al laste taim apari much= o proyekta ausen ENIONI-sistema, e a me to sembli ga naturale kosa, natural= e evolusion de interlingwistika. Generalem, es kontra-utile tu opini, ke ko= y lingwas es "pyu egale kem otres", walaa fin. > > Dmitri > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7523 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4239 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 16:46:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2011 16:46:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 16:46:09 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 16:46:09 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 16:46:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:46:08 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: quo eveniv kun li situo auxilingua.org? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=4_YErHpUrUhZQUfbdgitItoQUDWuT-C_s8sfzHs_pFNXQNL-MaJIN6kccFtX X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Nu, yes, mi pensav pri auxlang.org. Quankam li afero es, que mi serchav li = dictionarium Occidental-Russ, quel mi ja longen ante nun exkargav e have, m= a mi volev donar referencio a un hom, quel skribav a me e questionav. Guglo= donav referencio a auxilingua.org, ma li referencio komprendeblen no funkc= iona, nam li adreso auxilingua.org no plu es validi, quale mi nun komprende= , ja longen. E pro que li tema esev pri Occidental, mi facilen konfuzav ist= o kun auxlang.org. Nu, mi nun metev ti dikcionario Occidental-Russ a mie en= ioni.narod.ru . IAL-Wikia es plu ancien quam auxlang.org? Ili ambi aspekta = tre tristen. Posta Mundi es li lasti espero de interlinguistika... Rosto. = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escrib= i=F3: > > Kara Rosto: > > Esis advere tre bona, ke l'amiko James > montris= a tu la voyo aden IAL-Wikia; > tamen, me nun konjektas, ke to, quon > tu e= sis serchanta, esas ne "auxilingua.org", > ma "auxlang.org" (la situo da Ro= bert Petry), > ube Occidental duras esar la chefa helplinguo, > ed ube tua= nomo duras aparar kom membro. > > Se me juste memoras, "IAL-Wikia" > esa= s situo plu anciena kam "auxlang.org". > > Til balde! > > > * * * * * * = * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7524 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 67658 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2011 17:27:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2011 17:27:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2011 17:27:49 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 17:27:48 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2011 17:27:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:27:46 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Frazo #27 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=MQRZa4fcCg_2imnAao-AhW2iIUFKu12HW_jiTLiw2gqeMc9-ZZuxCJEp0Lcj X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Secun le dictionario de Iterlingua, un croc pro captar pisce es "hamo". E s= ol rima pro "hamo" es "hippopotamo". "Ancora le hippopotamo non es sur le = hamo" - esque es apte? :) Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "= postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Tik-tak, p_M-ani! > > Quankam= me ne povas garantiar olua justeso, > me ipsa audacos probar tradukar nia = frazo #27 > aden Interlingua de IALA. Voluntez emendar > mea posibla erori!= > > Interlingua: > Ancora le pisce non es sur le croc. > > Ka tote just= a? Ka plubonigebla? > > Se posibla, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo > (adm= inime un versiono) aden plusa LIA-sistemi, > por ke me povez adjuntar oli e= n mea nexta listo. > > Adavane, kolegaro! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a = r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "p= ostamundi" skribis: > > Karega posta_Mundi-ani: > > Yen ni= a frazo #27, qua provizore tradukesis > sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la= 6 sequanta > helpo-lingui o LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Euriki= do, LdP, Populido. > > Esperanto: > Ankorau la ezoko ne trovighas sur la = hoko. > Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano. > > Ido: > Ankore la lucio = ne esas sur la hoko. > Ankore la fisho ne divenis disho. > Ne ja la ganajo = atingis la plajo. > > Novial: > Ankore li fishe non ha deveni dishe. > No= n ja li ganatu ha atene li manu. > > Eurikido: > Stil isti albrikoko no t= rovaset in le boko. > Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko. > Stil i= sti beli fixo no poneset ain le dixo. > Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in = le taxo. > > LdP: > Haishi fish bu es in dish. > Kalamar es haishi in mar= . > Gansa haishi fai dansa. > > Populido: > Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok.= > Ankor ti fish no divenab dish. > No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. > > = > Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #27, > sive per un sive per plur= a versioni sam-senca, > aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue,= > Interlingua, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, > Volap=FCk, Glosa, Ne= o, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, edc. > > Danko e predando pri via kunlaboro, am= iki! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7525 Return-Path: X-Sender: philippe.cousson@... 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Message-ID: <4D5C0DAA.9020907@...> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:47:22 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050200010508090505060503" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Philippe Cousson Reply-To: philippe.cousson@... Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #27 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=386199761; y=vqLvUdfSOiXE3Gs68XA7TAg_Svh7JwFVFwXELeJs5mGwfHDu7x1tPVat X-Yahoo-Profile: philippecousson --------------050200010508090505060503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit SAluton, chu ne eblas en interlingua rimo inter la vorto por "reto" kaj la nomo de iu marfisho ? Kore Philippe Le 16/02/2011 18:27, r0st0 a �crit : > > Secun le dictionario de Iterlingua, un croc pro captar pisce es "hamo". > E sol rima pro "hamo" es "hippopotamo". > > "Ancora le hippopotamo non es sur le hamo" - > > esque es apte? :) > > Rosto. > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > , "postamundi" > escribi�: > > > > Tik-tak, p_M-ani! > > > > Quankam me ne povas garantiar olua justeso, > > me ipsa audacos probar tradukar nia frazo #27 > > aden Interlingua de IALA. Voluntez emendar > > mea posibla erori! > > > > Interlingua: > > Ancora le pisce non es sur le croc. > > > > Ka tote justa? Ka plubonigebla? > > > > Se posibla, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo > > (adminime un versiono) aden plusa LIA-sistemi, > > por ke me povez adjuntar oli en mea nexta listo. > > > > Adavane, kolegaro! > > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > , > > "postamundi" skribis: > > > > Karega posta_Mundi-ani: > > > > Yen nia frazo #27, qua provizore tradukesis > > sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la 6 sequanta > > helpo-lingui o LIA-sistemi: > > Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Eurikido, LdP, Populido. > > > > Esperanto: > > Ankorau la ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko. > > Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano. > > > > Ido: > > Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hoko. > > Ankore la fisho ne divenis disho. > > Ne ja la ganajo atingis la plajo. > > > > Novial: > > Ankore li fishe non ha deveni dishe. > > Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu. > > > > Eurikido: > > Stil isti albrikoko no trovaset in le boko. > > Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko. > > Stil isti beli fixo no poneset ain le dixo. > > Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in le taxo. > > > > LdP: > > Haishi fish bu es in dish. > > Kalamar es haishi in mar. > > Gansa haishi fai dansa. > > > > Populido: > > Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok. > > Ankor ti fish no divenab dish. > > No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. > > > > > > Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #27, > > sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca, > > aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, > > Interlingua, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, > > Volap�k, Glosa, Neo, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, edc. > > > > Danko e predando pri via kunlaboro, amiki! > > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > > --------------050200010508090505060503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SAluton,

chu ne eblas en interlingua rimo inter la vorto por "reto" kaj la nomo de iu marfisho ?

Kore
Philippe

Le 16/02/2011 18:27, r0st0 a écrit :
 

Secun le dictionario de Iterlingua, un croc pro captar pisce es "hamo".
E sol rima pro "hamo" es "hippopotamo".

"Ancora le hippopotamo non es sur le hamo" -

esque es apte? :)

Rosto.

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribió:
>
> Tik-tak, p_M-ani!
>
> Quankam me ne povas garantiar olua justeso,
> me ipsa audacos probar tradukar nia frazo #27
> aden Interlingua de IALA. Voluntez emendar
> mea posibla erori!
>
> Interlingua:
> Ancora le pisce non es sur le croc.
>
> Ka tote justa? Ka plubonigebla?
>
> Se posibla, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo
> (adminime un versiono) aden plusa LIA-sistemi,
> por ke me povez adjuntar oli en mea nexta listo.
>
> Adavane, kolegaro!
>
>
> * * * * * * * *
> p a r t a k a
> * * * * * * * *
>
> --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
> "postamundi" skribis:
>
> Karega posta_Mundi-ani:
>
> Yen nia frazo #27, qua provizore tradukesis
> sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la 6 sequanta
> helpo-lingui o LIA-sistemi:
> Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Eurikido, LdP, Populido.
>
> Esperanto:
> Ankorau la ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko.
> Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano.
>
> Ido:
> Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hoko.
> Ankore la fisho ne divenis disho.
> Ne ja la ganajo atingis la plajo.
>
> Novial:
> Ankore li fishe non ha deveni dishe.
> Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu.
>
> Eurikido:
> Stil isti albrikoko no trovaset in le boko.
> Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko.
> Stil isti beli fixo no poneset ain le dixo.
> Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in le taxo.
>
> LdP:
> Haishi fish bu es in dish.
> Kalamar es haishi in mar.
> Gansa haishi fai dansa.
>
> Populido:
> Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok.
> Ankor ti fish no divenab dish.
> No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj.
>
>
> Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #27,
> sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca,
> aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue,
> Interlingua, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione,
> Volapük, Glosa, Neo, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, edc.
>
> Danko e predando pri via kunlaboro, amiki!
>
>
> * * * * * * * *
> p a r t a k a
> * * * * * * * *
>

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Ancora la ganio no es en la mano.= Sendt fra min iPad Den 16. feb. 2011 kl. 20:45 skrev "postamundi" : > Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: > > Voluntez atenc= ar nia frazo #27, qua tradukesis, > sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la 8 s= equanta > helpo-lingui o LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Novial= , Eurikido, > Mondlango/Ulango, LdP, Populido. > > Esperanto: > Ankorau l= a ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko. > Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano. >= > Ido: > Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hoko. > Ankore la fisho ne diveni= s disho. > Ne ja la ganajo atingis la plajo. > > Interlingua: > Ancora le = pisce non es sur le hamo. > > Novial: > Ankore li fishe non ha deveni dish= e. > Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu. > > Eurikido: > Stil isti albrikok= o no trovaset in le boko. > Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko. > = Stil isti beli fixo no poneset ain le dixo. > Stil isti toti kaxo no trovas= et in le taxo. > > Mondlango/Ulango: > Ankore la fixo ne esan sur la huko.= > > LdP: > Haishi fish bu es in dish. > Kalamar es haishi in mar. > Gansa= haishi fai dansa. > > Populido: > Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok. > Ankor t= i fish no divenab dish. > No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. > > Se posibla, = voluntez tradukar nia frazo #27, > sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-= senca, > aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, > Idiom Neutra= l, Latino sine Flexione, Volap=C3=BCk, Glosa, > Neo, LFN, od irg altra neu= tra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. > > Adavane, estimati! > > * * * * * *= * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --Apple-Mail-5--340184405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
ARIEL:
Ancora la pisco no es= sur la hamo.
Ancora la ganio no es en la mano.

Sendt fra = min iPad

Den 16. feb. 2011 kl. 20:45 skrev "postamundi" <<= a href=3D"mailto:chepartaka@...">chepartaka@...>:
 
=

Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi:

Voluntez atencar nia frazo #2= 7, qua tradukesis,
sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la 8 sequanta
h= elpo-lingui o LIA-sistemi:
Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Novial, Eurikid= o,
Mondlango/Ulango, LdP, Populido.

Esperanto:
Ankorau la= ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko.
Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano.<= br>
Ido:
Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hoko.
Ankore la fisho = ne divenis disho.
Ne ja la ganajo atingis la plajo.

Interlingu= a:
Ancora le pisce non es sur le hamo.

Novial:
Ankore li f= ishe non ha deveni dishe.
Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu.

E= urikido:
Stil isti albrikoko no trovaset in le boko.
Stil isti boni= ezoko no koceset sur le foko.
Stil isti beli fixo no poneset ain le di= xo.
Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in le taxo.

Mondlango/Ulan= go:
Ankore la fixo ne esan sur la huko.

LdP:
Haishi fish b= u es in dish.
Kalamar es haishi in mar.
Gansa haishi fai dansa.
=
Populido:
Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok.
Ankor ti fish no dive= nab dish.
No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj.

Se posibla, voluntez= tradukar nia frazo #27,
sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca,=
aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue,
Idiom Neutral,= Latino sine Flexione, Volap=C3=BCk, Glosa,
Neo, LFN, od irg altra neu= tra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas.

Adavane, estimati!

* *= * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
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Tua mesajo atingabas posta_Mundi, precize, kande me esis ap= arte pensanta a tu. Me joyas. Me konjektas ke tu tradukabas nia frazo #27 = en la nova versiono di tua helpo-linguo, ARIEL. Altra-latere, me profitos = tua duesma parto dil frazo por adjuntar ol anke che Interlingua: Interling= ua: Ancora le pisce non es sur le hamo. Ancora le ganio non es in le mano. = Til balde, amiko! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Osmund Aukland skribis: ARI= EL: Ancora la pisco no es sur la hamo. Ancora la ganio no es en la mano. = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7531 Return-Path: X-Sender: jmuelver@... 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Ankor ti fish no di= venab dish. No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. Se posibla, voluntez tradukar= nia frazo #27, sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca, aden altra L= IA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Latino sine Flexione, Volap=FCk, Gl= osa, Neo, LFN, od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. Danko e= predanko pri via kunlaboro, amiki! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * *= * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7536 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=ciXQ6woTdH-SktDsaFcx5WcsF7DPLdqJIqne3JOkdHL7C50 X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------7B15212916FB3A04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola, Partaka. Recente, me pensis kontinuar mea edituro elektronika de tu= a verko "Habemus LIA", ma, hodie, me vidas ke tu ipsa ja facas ita laboro; = ed omna verkisto esas, principe, la maxim bona editisto de sua propra verko= . Nun me respondas tua questiono, yen, ube prizentar tua dokumento elektro= nika maxim efikive? La respondo esas ke ne existas "la" ideala blogo, ret-= situo o listo internetala de "imeilo" (posto elektronika). La naturo de Int= erneto esas politeista, ne monoteista. Existas, evidente, plura bona loki i= nternetala por prizentor tua verko (ka romano? ka teatruro?). Nature ke tu= , kom lidero idista politika e literatura, perfekte konocas ja la precipua = blogi, listi, ret-situi ed cetere idista od idoparolanta, do me ne citos ta= la loki interneta. Vice, me indikos kelka pordi min konocata por la bona I= do-literaturaji kom la tua. La unesma pordo esas... la tradukado, e me par= olas hodie kom tradukisto profesiona. Kande un verko esas bona, un tradukur= o bona konservas generale la qualeso de la originaluro; quankam ni, traduki= sti, bone konocas du klasika moti: "Tradukanto, trahizanto" e "La tradukado= esas tam nekareebla kam neposibla.". Do, tua verko bone tradukota aden Tur= ka, Kataluna, Esperanto, Guarania, Rusa o China, povus havar granda difuzad= o. La duesma pordo esas la prezentajo per papero. La papero havas ankore n= ekareebla rolo (ve!, netradukebla vorti-ludo ek mea Galega linguo!) en la l= ektado de la literaturo klasika anciena o, kom hike, moderna. Tu anke konoc= as la precipua Ido-editerii, do adavane. E la triesma pordo esas la lingua= la mondo de la eurokloni. Difuzor tua libro direte, mem sen tradukuro, aden= la parolanti de Esperanto, Novial, Interlingua, Occidental, Latino sine Fl= exione, Ikuso, Lingua Franca Nova, Mondlango e multa altra helpoplanlingui = simila, esas bona politiko, ne nur en la listo Posta_Mundi, ne nur en Inter= neto, sed anke, exemple, en la kongresi fizika di Esperantisti od Ulangisti= (Mondlangisti). Me, persone, che diversa listi od internetala depozeyi, p= reparas antologio da verki skribita o facita en irga helpoplanlinguo, ma ku= n du stipulaji: ke omna verko skribesus originale per irga helpoplanlinguo = (ne un tradukuro ek un linguo teritoria) e ke tala verki intrinseke prizent= us intereso arta o cienca, ne nur intereso linguistika por la mondo de la e= urokloni o plu generale la mondo de la lingui helpanta planifikata; yen, me= serchas qualeso, exter la lingui de redakto, por ica antologio. E por tala= antologio me esperas tua Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA". Predanko. Alexandro X= avero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo= yahoo punto es). ----- Mesajo originala ----- Ube lektar la verko "Hab= emus LIA"? Estimata samideani: Me esas preske finonta mea laboro revi= zar, korektigar ed aranjar PDF-dokumento por ofrar a vi omna mea original I= do-verko, "Habemus LIA". Tamen, me ne savas ube kargar e prizentar tal dok= umento por ke ol povez lektesar ne nur dal membri di nia forumi, ma anke da= irg altra homi. Me posedas nek blogo nek ret-situo personal. Ka vi havus= la jentileso rekomendar a me la maxim bona loko, adminime viajudike, por p= rizentar "Habemus LIA" maxim efikive? Predanko por via intereso e kunlabor= o, amiki! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/gro= up/posta_Mundi http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan ------------7B15212916FB3A04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ube lektar la verko "Habemus LIA"?

       = ;Hola, Partaka.

       Recente, me pensis kontinuar mea edituro elektronika de tua ve= rko "Habemus LIA", ma, hodie, me vidas ke tu ipsa ja facas ita laboro; ed o= mna verkisto esas, principe, la maxim bona editisto de sua propra verko.

   =    Nun me respondas tua questiono, y= en, ube prizentar tua dokumento elektronika maxim efikive?

       = La respondo esas ke ne existas "la" ideala blog= o, ret-situo o listo internetala de "imeilo" (posto elektronika). La naturo= de Interneto esas politeista, ne monoteista. Existas, evidente, plura bona= loki internetala por prizentor tua verko (ka romano? ka teatruro?).=

    &nb= sp;  Nature ke tu, kom lidero idista polit= ika e literatura, perfekte konocas ja la precipua blogi, listi, ret-situi e= d cetere idista od idoparolanta, do me ne citos tala loki interneta.=

    &nb= sp;  Vice, me indikos kelka pordi min kono= cata por la bona Ido-literaturaji kom la tua.

       La unesma pordo esas... la tradukado, e me parolas hodie kom= tradukisto profesiona. Kande un verko esas bona, un tradukuro bona konserv= as generale la qualeso de la originaluro; quankam ni, tradukisti, bone kono= cas du klasika moti: "Tradukanto, trahizanto" e "La tradukado esas tam neka= reebla kam neposibla.". Do, tua verko bone tradukota aden Turka, Kataluna, = Esperanto, Guarania, Rusa o China, povus havar granda difuzado.

=

      &= nbsp;La duesma pordo esas la prezentajo per pap= ero. La papero havas ankore nekareebla rolo (ve!, netradukebla vorti-ludo e= k mea Galega linguo!) en la lektado de la literaturo klasika anciena o, kom= hike, moderna. Tu anke konocas la precipua Ido-editerii, do adavane.

    &n= bsp;  E la triesma pordo esas la linguala = mondo de la eurokloni. Difuzor tua libro direte, mem sen tradukuro, aden la= parolanti de Esperanto, Novial, Interlingua, Occidental, Latino sine Flexi= one, Ikuso, Lingua Franca Nova, Mondlango e multa altra helpoplanlingui sim= ila, esas bona politiko, ne nur en la listo Posta_Mundi, ne nur en Internet= o, sed anke, exemple, en la kongresi fizika di Esperantisti od Ulangisti (M= ondlangisti).

       Me, persone, che = diversa listi od internetala depozeyi, preparas antologio da verki skribita= o facita en irga helpoplanlinguo, ma kun du stipulaji: ke omna verko skrib= esus originale per irga helpoplanlinguo (ne un tradukuro ek un linguo terit= oria) e ke tala verki intrinseke prizentus intereso arta o cienca, ne nur i= ntereso linguistika por la mondo de la eurokloni o plu generale la mondo de= la lingui helpanta planifikata; yen, me serchas qualeso, exter la lingui d= e redakto, por ica antologio. E por tala antologio me esperas tua Ido-verko= , "Habemus LIA".

       Predanko.

    &= nbsp;  Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, = posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).=


       ----- Mesajo originala -----


    =    Ube lektar la verko "Habemus LIA"?=  


       Estimata samideani:

<= br>

  =      Me esas preske finonta mea = laboro revizar, korektigar ed aranjar PDF-dokumento por ofrar a vi omna mea= original Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA".

       Tamen, me ne savas ube kargar e prizentar tal dokumento por ke ol pove= z lektesar ne nur dal membri di nia forumi, ma anke da irg altra homi.

    &= nbsp;  Me posedas nek blogo nek ret-situo = personal.

&= nbsp;      Ka vi havus la jentil= eso rekomendar a me la maxim bona loko, adminime viajudike, por prizentar "= Habemus LIA" maxim efikive?

       Pre= danko por via intereso e kunlaboro, amiki!


&nb= sp;      P A R T A K A

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Ali=C4=9D= u kaj partoprenu!

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Hao dey yu ol, amigas!
Nau, me ve kalemi pa Lingwa de Pl= aneta,
kel es lingwa zui bon e jamile, kel me pri
mucho. Shukran,= kare LdP-jen. Swasti!
(PTK)

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Salud a oli brave habiter de suryaful Partakista= n! > Nau, me ve kalemi pa Lingwa de Planeta, Ahaa, kom me vidi, yu pro= posi "kalemi" fo "paroli*". Wel, es interes-ney proposa. Al nau nu hev sol= "shwo" i fo "diri" i fo "paroli": Me shwo a yu. - Mi diras al vi. Me shwo = kun yu. - Mi parolas kun vi. Treba omdumi se. Treba kan swahili-lexikon. = > kel es lingwa zuy hao e jamile, ke me pri mucho. Me hev ga same op= ina! :) >Shukran, kare LdP-jen. Swasti! > (PTK) Shukran a yu hi. Nu se= ndi a yu un swasti mutuale! From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7546 Return-Path: X-Sender: attilio.liotto@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=298912666; y=2vX_Rer0NBCJnR2muW36FBTvCfEIAnf19-lVyF3WBxP8-CIMBtlsyH4 X-Yahoo-Profile: attilio.liotto --0022152d5f7196c3f7049cb2fdcd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oftem politiker kalemi mocho e shwo nixa. Swasti Attilio 2011/2/20 posta= mundi > > > Hola, Dimitri! > > Me skribis tote sp= ontane mea mesajo en LdP, > ed ol kompreneble rezultis ne tote justa. > > F= akte, me ne savas qua vorton vi uzas por > "skribar", yen pro quo me nur ko= njektis > "kalemi/kalami", radiko qua ne relatas 'parlar', > ma "skribar". = Do, se vi ne havas "kalemi/kalami": > "skri"?, "skribi"?, "skibi"?, "grafi"= ?, "yazmaki"? > > Altra-latere, se LdP advere bezonus ulo altra > kam "shwo= " por 'parlar', on povus "toki", "paroli", > 'parli', edc., ka ne? > > "Ob = yu toki LdP?" > "Ya, me toki e kalemi LdP" > > Til nexta komuniko! > > * * = * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoog= roups.com, > "lingwadeplaneta" skribis: > > > --- En = posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > > H= ao dey a yu oli, amigas! > > Salud a oli brave habiter de suryaful Partakis= tan! > > > Nau, me ve kalemi pa Lingwa de Planeta, > > Ahaa, kom me vidi, y= u proposi "kalemi" fo "paroli*". > Wel, es interes-ney proposa. Al nau nu h= ev sol "shwo" i fo "diri" i fo > "paroli": > Me shwo a yu. - Mi diras al vi= . > Me shwo kun yu. - Mi parolas kun vi. > > Treba omdumi se. Treba kan swa= hili-lexikon. > > > > kel es lingwa zuy hao e jamile, ke me pri mucho. > > = Me hev ga same opina! :) > > >Shukran, kare LdP-jen. Swasti! > > (PTK) > > = Shukran a yu hi. Nu sendi a yu un swasti mutuale! > > > --0022152d5f7196c3f7049cb2fdcd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Oftem politiker kalem= i mocho e shwo nixa.


Swasti=A0 Attilio

2011/2/20 postamundi <chepartaka@...>
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Hola, Dimitri!

Me skribis tote sp= ontane mea mesajo en LdP,
ed ol kompreneble rezultis ne tote justa.
Fakte, me ne savas qua vorton vi uzas por
"skribar", y= en pro quo me nur konjektis
"kalemi/kalami", radiko qua ne re= latas 'parlar',
ma "skribar". Do, se vi ne havas &quo= t;kalemi/kalami":
"skri"?, "skribi"?, "sk= ibi"?, "grafi"?, "yazmaki"?

Altra-latere,= se LdP advere bezonus ulo altra
kam "shwo" por 'parlar&#= 39;, on povus "toki", "paroli",
'parli', ed= c., ka ne?

"Ob yu toki LdP?"
"Ya, me toki e k= alemi LdP"

Til nexta komuniko!

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= p a r t a k a
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"lingwadeplaneta" skribis:


--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogrou= ps.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3:

= > Hao dey a yu oli, amigas!

Salud a oli brave habiter de sur= yaful Partakistan!

> Nau, me ve kalemi pa Lingwa de Planeta, <= br>
Ahaa, kom me vidi, yu proposi "kalemi" fo "paroli*= ".
Wel, es interes-ney proposa. Al nau nu hev sol "shwo"= ; i fo "diri" i fo "paroli":
Me shwo a yu. - Mi dir= as al vi.
Me shwo kun yu. - Mi parolas kun vi.

Treba omdumi s= e. Treba kan swahili-lexikon.


> kel es lingwa zuy hao e = jamile, ke me pri mucho.

Me hev ga same opina! :)

>= Shukran, kare LdP-jen. Swasti!
> (PTK)

Shukran a yu hi. N= u sendi a yu un swasti mutuale!

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=w40w762FmxNnUZ_HhRjX_GAVHWizgzy0Ynb8MStjM0dFEz0 X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------4D1777B1E78B432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On fage tue boluntate... en ikuso. salutos ba totos. recentamente, mio v= isionin dentro la grupo interneta para imeilo tesa postamundio (isa Posta_M= undi) pe una mesajo kon multas tradukasionos de una fraso relijiona fa isu= la jesukristo. la mesajo, fa la konpilanto isula partakao (tesula Partaka) = aparan ba kontinuasiono. la ja longa listo de tradukasionos (la orijinalo = estan en la arameiko, la ankora parolata linguo de isula jesukristo) kresko= n sin dubidos into altras helpoplanlinguos novas. ono noten ke la granda ma= joreso mater kuestas tradukasionos aparan via euroklonos, ei ke las euroklo= nos tenan inoltre la granda majoreso de las parolantos via helpoplanlinguos= . naturamente, prokue las parolantos usan la lejislo mater la minima esforc= o. oji, mio desiran nuancar una aspekto signifiva fa la ikuso, manifestata= en la tradukasiono. la teksto elektata esan "On fage tue boluntate en le t= ere como en le siele." e la periodo de formasiono mater la ikuso aparan kor= ektamente, inter la ano dumila unesma ei la ano dumila triesma (2001-2003).= ma la formo elektata non esan la formo pe kualo mio, la principala parola= nto aktuala de la ikuso, usan tipamente. la formo elektata estan proksima b= a la ikuso neolatina, ma kon alkunas modifikasionos; eksenplamente, las sus= tantivos ei las ajetivos finan via la vokalo "e" inves la vokalo "o" ou la = vokalo "a", respektivamente. la inperativo ei la pronomo eksterpersona apar= an apokopatas, "On fage" inves "ono fagen". ecetera. alora: se, komo alkun= as parolantos de euroklonos "rivalas" argumentan falsamente, la ikuso esun = una kreasiono privata mia, kuesto non okasionun ou, se kuesto okasionun, pe= kuesto mio disautorun. ma la verito esan ke la ikuso, komo kualkuna cienco= , metodo, teorio ou filosofologio (filosofio) seriosa, esan narpersona (eks= terpersona), ojetiva ei aperta fa kualkuna revisiono, modifikasiono, adapta= siono ou mejorasiono. donke, se altra parolanto de ikuso preferan una form= o komo la formo citata (ou kreata) fa isula partakao, eto diritan pe kueso = fagar. la komunikasiono kon eto via la ikuso non suferon grandas problemos,= sinceramente; las parolantos de las diversas formos ou dialektos fa la iku= so konprenan reciprokamente. mio usun pe la formo "ono fagen tua volunteso = en la tero komo en la cielo." ei mio esun konprenata por la autoro de la al= tra formo. konkludasiono: la ikuso non esan una eksperimento linguologa (l= inguistika) frivola ei esterila, sino una euroklono mejorata ei utila, sin = personismos absurdas. ono demandan ta mio kon certa frekueso: eske por kua= lo tuo non abandonan la ikuso, evitundo las dividasionos interlinguologas e= i usundo solamente euroklonos klasikas kon multas parolantos, komo la esper= anto, la ido, la interlinguao (tesa Interlingua) ou la linguo franka nova (= tesa Lingua Franca Nova)? alora, mio respondan ke mio filosofan inoltre via= kuestas "grandas" euroklonos, ma ke sen especialas argumentasionos metafis= ikas ou etikas de fondo kontra itos, mio tenan dificilesos non evitablas ku= ando mio usan kuestas euroklonos segon suas formos klasikas. eksenplamente,= dentro la esperanto aparan las supersignos, kualos obligan ortografiamente= pe mio ba kontinuas ekuilibros prekarias ou surogatos, ne parolundo sur la= anbigua ei superflua sufikso de akusativo. dentro la ido, las digrafos, la= difono "x" ei las anbiguas regulos de acento ei de semivokalasiono produkt= an ta mio pe kontinuas konfliktos en la uso parolata ou eskribata de kuesta= euroklono (algo mejora kuanto la esperanto, segon konparasiono konpleta). = la interlinguao presentan una kaoso de ortografio antifonetika, verbos non = regulas ei formos kapricas dentro las parolos konponatas, formos kapricas p= e kualos mio devan aprendar memoramente inves las formos konponatas regulas= . la linguo franca nova presentan una apokopasiono kualo mutilan frekuentam= ente las etimolojios internacionas. adicionamente, las kuatras euroklonos g= randas citatas presentan ta mio, ei ta kualkuna parolanto de linguos non eu= ropokcidentas, una rasgo non por eskarsamente citata minus dificila: la obl= iganteso de las majuskulos. la linguo plus parolata en la mondo, la ciniko,= ei la triesma linguo plus parolata en la mondo, la hindurduiko (hindiko, u= rduiko, hindustaniko) tenan multas dificilesos, ui... ma non la dificileso = mater kalkular kontinuamente la formo de kada letro. dentro la alfabeto san= skrita, la alfabeto araba ou las ideogramos cinas, non eksistan formos maju= skulas para nominos propras ou komenco de fraso... ei itos konprenan perfek= tamente inter suos kuando itos eskriban ou lekturan suas linguos. la ikuso= neutra non presentan kuestas problemos, konservundo la desirabla reguleso = ortografia, formosintaksa (morfosintaksa) ei de parolos konponatas dentro l= a esperanto, la ido ou la linguo franka nova, plus la trasparenteso ou glas= nosteso semantika internaciona de la interlinguao ou de la okcidentaliko, m= a sin las disregulesos de kuestas duas euroklonos "naturistas". kuando mio= parolan ou eskriban la ikuso, tipamente para filosofar, mio non necesan ka= lkular ou dubidar kontinuamente purse mio devan usar una letro sea majuskul= a sea minuskula. mio non necesan konocar purse kuando mio eskribun las duas= sonoros kontiguas "ks" kon las duas letros "ks" ou kon la digrafo "x". mio= non necesan usar kontinuamente una sufikso ou preposiciono de akusativo in= kluso en frasos konpletamente klaras komo "mio manjan pano." mio non necesa= n konocar pe las infinitas formos, especialamente en las nominos propras je= ografias ei personas, pe kualos posiblan presentar la sonoro fina de una su= stantivo. ei mio non necesan aprendar absurdamente la vokabularo opaka inte= rnacionamente de la volapuko, la roiko (tesa Ro) ou la kotavao (tesa Kotava= ). mio, ansi, posiblan koncentrar mias esforcos en las aferos filosofas, i= nves las aferos linguas. se vosos desiran fagar kritikasionos ciencas ei t= eknikas kontra la ikuso, non eson mio kio blokon pe kuesas kritikos ni kio = respondon pe kuesas kritikos kon atakos personas. donke, pu lekturanto, on= o fagen tua volunteso... en ikuso. amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero = kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).= ----- mesajo orijina ----- Bon jorno, posta_Mundi-ani! Yen ankor-foye = nia rekorda frazo di agosto, qua tradukesis aden la 60 sequanta LIA-sistemi= : Carpophorophilus, Communicationssprache, Volapuk, Weltsprache, Pasilingua= , Spelin, Esperanto, Spokil, Mundolingue, Adjuvanto, Esperanto (1894), Bola= k, Lingua Komun, Latinesce, Idiom Neutral, Tutonish, Panroman, L. sine Flex= ione, Pan-Kel, Ulla, Ido, Ro, Interpres. Adjuvilo, Romanal, Omnez, Viva, Et= em, Nov Latin Logui, Occidental, Uniala, Esperido, Cosman, Novial, Novam, I= nterlingua, Concordu, Neo, Kotava, Glosa, Unitario, LFN, Fasile, Romanova, = Romanica, Slovio, Atlango, Omnial, Ikuso, Arlipo, Eurana, Komunikando, Xcel= , Sambahsa, LdP, InterRoman, Eurikido, globspik. ARIEL, Populido. Carpoph= orophilus (1734) Ha folanda duus fiassade felud in seluma, sik koke in derr= a. Communicationssprache (1839) Ta volonta f=C3=A4rerii con Cielu =C3=A4ns= i Terru. Volap=C3=BCk (1880) Jenom=C3=B6z vil olik, =C3=A4s in s=C3=BCl, i= su tal. Weltsprache (1883) Ton volunt=C3=A4t s=C3=B6t vam in le c=C3=B6l,= tam in le ter. Pasilingua (1885) T=C3=BCa willu fairore sur erda ut in co= ela. Spelin (1886) Vol el zi bi faked, kefe ni siel, efe su sium! Esperan= to (1887) Estu farita volo via, kiel en la chielo tiel anka=C3=B9 sur la te= ro. Spokil (1887/1890) Feleno lezai tio bela, uti o zeal itu o geol. Mund= olingue (1890) Tei voluntate e exequer ne solu in cele ma eti in terre. Ad= juvanto (1887/1894) Estez volo tua kome in el c^jelo, tale anke sur el tero= . Esperanto-Reformo (1894) Estan volo tue, kom in cielo, sik anku sur tero= . Bolak (1899) Vea vil ey makui il gev so in sil. Lingua Komun (1900) Vol= unt=C3=A1 tue esa fate sur tera komo in cielo. Latinesce (1901) Facte esse= tue voluntate ut in coele, ita in terre. Idiom Neutral (1902) Ke votr vol= u es fasied kuale in siel tale et su ter. Tutonish (1902) Dauo vil bi dun = an erd als it be in hevn. Panroman (1903) Ton voluntat ese fazet in ter ko= m in ziel. Latino sine Flexione (1903) Que tua voluntate es facta sicut in= celo et in terra. Pan-Kel (1905-1906) So viy apsu up glob sky. Ulla (190= 6) Dus desira este f=C3=A4red n terra als tu este n ciela. Ido (1907) Tua = volo facesez, quale en la cielo, tale anke sur la tero. Ro (1908) Ace va e= co, uz in suda asi in buba. Interpres (1908) Tu voluntas sit facit in el t= erra sicut in el celum. Adjuvilo (1910) Esten farata tua volo quale en cie= los tale anke sur la tero. Romanal (1912) Fias volite tui, sicut en ciele,= et en terre. Omnez (1912) To volio esaz exekutat in ter quale in ciel. V= iva (1913) Makru to vil, ut en ska it on ge. Etem (1917) Tuo vol a es, kua= m in urano, tam in geo. Nov Latin Logui (1918) Vun buli agitu kvam in zoel= i tam in terri. Occidental/Interlingue (1922) Mey tui vole esser fat qualm= en in li cieles talmen anc sur li terre. Uniala (1923) Facay volunta tuya = qom an cielu eti sur la tera Esperido (1925) Zia volo estu kiel en himelo = tiel sur tero. Cosman (1927) Tu vole fiey, as in cosme sic as po terr. No= vial (1928) Mey vun volio bli fa, kom in li siele, talim anke sur li tere. = Novam (1928) Vua volo fareveu sur il tero quale nel sielo. Interlingua (1= 951) Que tu voluntate sia facite super le terra como etiam in le celo. Con= cordu (1952) Ti vulzaf fad, en Munde tal in Cele. Neo (1961) Siu fat ta vo= l, asben in cel, as in ter. Kotava (1978) Rinafa kuranira moe tawada lidam= kelt zo askir. Glosa (1981) Tu tende gene akti epi Geo homo in Urani Plac= e. Unitario (1987) tuja wolunto ockurius, como in la hewine tanto sur la t= erra. LFN (1998) Tu vole ta es fada, en la tera como en la sielo. Fasile = (1999) Lawijez vudi vile, in munde el in sele. Romanova (2000) Tua volunt= =C3=A1 deve ser fasida en la terra como tamben en el sielo. Romanica (2001= ) Facta sia tu voluntate super la terra como etiam in le celo. Slovio (200= 1) Tvoi hcenie bu na zemla takak na nebo. Atlango (2002) Plentumes le voly= o Tustra te sul terdo qe il syelo. Omnial (2002) Esek fakted vosal volade = iso en tere kiam en ciele. Ikuso (2001-2003) On fage tue boluntate en le t= ere como en le siele. Arlipo (2003) Tua volo esigu teren kvalen cielen. E= urana (2004) Ta volu =C3=A9a facata como nella cielu i teru. Komunikando (= 20??) Lass tu vole okurer, tant sur li terre kvant in li cel. Xcel (20??) = Et ce tua-vol agesas ter-et-cele. Sambahsa (2007) Kwohrt bihtu tien vol Te= m dighomi quem in warwn. LdP (2010) Hay yur vola gei zwo in arda e skay. = InterRoman (2010) Sea fasida Tu volontade en la tera como en lo sielo. Eur= ikido (2010) Faceser le tui voleta, kome in celo, sik in tero. globspik (2= 010) jor volun neses get dun, as in sel, ad dis os on glob. ARIEL (2010) C= e tu voluntate sera fasite, como in selo ance in tera. Populido (2010) Ke = tui vol event, kual en ciel, tal ank sur ter! Me volunte dankas vi omna p= ro via jentila kunlaboro, per olqua, quale skribite, ni sucesabas atingar 6= 0 tradukuri diferanta de nia famoza frazo di agosto, quo reprezentas la rek= ordo absoluta che posta_Mundi. Maxim kordial saluto, kolegaro! * * * * *= * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * ------------4D1777B1E78B432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On fage tue boluntate... en ikuso.

  =      On fage tue boluntate... en ikuso.

       salutos ba totos.<= /span>

       = ;recentamente, mio visionin dentro la grupo interneta para imeilo tesa post= amundio (isa Posta_Mundi)  pe una mesajo kon multas tradukasionos de u= na fraso relijiona fa isula jesukristo. la mesajo, fa la konpilanto isula p= artakao (tesula Partaka) aparan ba kontinuasiono.

       la ja longa listo de tra= dukasionos (la orijinalo estan en la arameiko, la ankora parolata linguo de= isula jesukristo) kreskon sin dubidos into altras helpoplanlinguos novas. = ono noten ke la granda majoreso mater kuestas tradukasionos aparan via euro= klonos, ei ke las euroklonos tenan inoltre la granda majoreso de las parola= ntos via helpoplanlinguos. naturamente, prokue las parolantos usan la lejis= lo mater la minima esforco.

       oji, mio desiran nuancar una aspekto signifiva= fa la ikuso, manifestata en la tradukasiono. la teksto elektata esan "On f= age tue boluntate en le tere como en le siele." e la periodo de formasiono = mater la ikuso aparan korektamente, inter la ano dumila unesma ei la ano du= mila triesma (2001-2003).

=        ma la formo elektata non esan la formo pe kualo = mio, la principala parolanto aktuala de la ikuso, usan tipamente. la formo = elektata estan proksima ba la ikuso neolatina, ma kon alkunas modifikasiono= s; eksenplamente, las sustantivos ei las ajetivos finan via la vokalo "e" i= nves la vokalo "o" ou la vokalo "a", respektivamente. la inperativo ei la p= ronomo eksterpersona aparan apokopatas, "On fage" inves "ono fagen". eceter= a.

      &n= bsp;alora: se, komo alkunas parolantos de euroklonos "rivalas" argumentan f= alsamente, la ikuso esun una kreasiono privata mia, kuesto non okasionun ou= , se kuesto okasionun, pe kuesto mio disautorun. ma la verito esan ke la ik= uso, komo kualkuna cienco, metodo, teorio ou filosofologio (filosofio) seri= osa, esan narpersona (eksterpersona), ojetiva ei aperta fa kualkuna revisio= no, modifikasiono, adaptasiono ou mejorasiono.

=        donke, se altra parolanto d= e ikuso preferan una formo komo la formo citata (ou kreata) fa isula partak= ao, eto diritan pe kueso fagar. la komunikasiono kon eto via la ikuso non s= uferon grandas problemos, sinceramente; las parolantos de las diversas form= os ou dialektos fa la ikuso konprenan reciprokamente. mio usun pe la formo = "ono fagen tua volunteso en la tero komo en la cielo." ei mio esun konprena= ta por la autoro de la altra formo.

       konkludasiono: la ikuso non esan una e= ksperimento linguologa (linguistika) frivola ei esterila, sino una euroklon= o mejorata ei utila, sin personismos absurdas.

=        ono demandan ta mio kon cer= ta frekueso: eske por kualo tuo non abandonan la ikuso, evitundo las divida= sionos interlinguologas ei usundo solamente euroklonos klasikas kon multas = parolantos, komo la esperanto, la ido, la interlinguao (tesa Interlingua) o= u la linguo franka nova (tesa Lingua Franca Nova)? alora, mio respondan ke = mio filosofan inoltre via kuestas "grandas" euroklonos, ma ke sen especiala= s argumentasionos metafisikas ou etikas de fondo kontra itos, mio tenan dif= icilesos non evitablas kuando mio usan kuestas euroklonos segon suas formos= klasikas. eksenplamente, dentro la esperanto aparan las supersignos, kualo= s obligan ortografiamente pe mio ba kontinuas ekuilibros prekarias ou surog= atos, ne parolundo sur la anbigua ei superflua sufikso de akusativo. dentro= la ido, las digrafos, la difono "x" ei las anbiguas regulos de acento ei d= e semivokalasiono produktan ta mio pe kontinuas konfliktos en la uso parola= ta ou eskribata de kuesta euroklono (algo mejora kuanto la esperanto, segon= konparasiono konpleta). la interlinguao presentan una kaoso de ortografio = antifonetika, verbos non regulas ei formos kapricas dentro las parolos konp= onatas, formos kapricas pe kualos mio devan aprendar memoramente inves las = formos konponatas regulas. la linguo franca nova presentan una apokopasiono= kualo mutilan frekuentamente las etimolojios internacionas. adicionamente,= las kuatras euroklonos grandas citatas presentan ta mio, ei ta kualkuna pa= rolanto de linguos non europokcidentas, una rasgo non por eskarsamente cita= ta minus dificila: la obliganteso de las majuskulos. la linguo plus parolat= a en la mondo, la ciniko, ei la triesma linguo plus parolata en la mondo, l= a hindurduiko (hindiko, urduiko, hindustaniko) tenan multas dificilesos, ui= ... ma non la dificileso mater kalkular kontinuamente la formo de kada letr= o. dentro la alfabeto sanskrita, la alfabeto araba ou las ideogramos cinas,= non eksistan formos majuskulas para nominos propras ou komenco de fraso...= ei itos konprenan perfektamente inter suos kuando itos eskriban ou lektura= n suas linguos.

  &nb= sp;    la ikuso neutra non presentan kuestas problemos, konservun= do la desirabla reguleso ortografia, formosintaksa (morfosintaksa) ei de pa= rolos konponatas dentro la esperanto, la ido ou la linguo franka nova, plus= la trasparenteso ou glasnosteso semantika internaciona de la interlinguao = ou de la okcidentaliko, ma sin las disregulesos de kuestas duas euroklonos = "naturistas".

   = ;    kuando mio parolan ou eskriban la ikuso, tipamente para filo= sofar, mio non necesan kalkular ou dubidar kontinuamente purse mio devan us= ar una letro sea majuskula sea minuskula. mio non necesan konocar purse kua= ndo mio eskribun las duas sonoros kontiguas "ks" kon las duas letros "ks" o= u kon la digrafo "x". mio non necesan usar kontinuamente una sufikso ou pre= posiciono de akusativo inkluso en frasos konpletamente klaras komo "mio man= jan pano." mio non necesan konocar pe las infinitas formos, especialamente = en las nominos propras jeografias ei personas, pe kualos posiblan presentar= la sonoro fina de una sustantivo. ei mio non necesan aprendar absurdamente= la vokabularo opaka internacionamente de la volapuko, la roiko (tesa Ro) o= u la kotavao (tesa Kotava).

       mio, ansi, posiblan koncentrar mias esforcos e= n las aferos filosofas, inves las aferos linguas.

       se vosos desiran fagar k= ritikasionos ciencas ei teknikas kontra la ikuso, non eson mio kio blokon p= e kuesas kritikos ni kio respondon pe kuesas kritikos kon atakos personas.<= /span>

       = ;donke, pu lekturanto, ono fagen tua volunteso... en ikuso.

       amikamente, fa= isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


&nbs= p;      ----- mesajo orijina -----


Bon jorno, posta_Mundi-ani= !

Yen ankor-= foye nia rekorda frazo di agosto,
qua traduk= esis aden la 60 sequanta LIA-sistemi:
Carpop= horophilus, Communicationssprache, Volapuk,
= Weltsprache, Pasilingua, Spelin, Esperanto, Spokil,
Mundolingue, Adjuvanto, Esperanto (1894), Bolak,
Lingua Komun, Latinesce, Idiom Neutral, Tutonish,
= Panroman, L. sine Flexione, Pan-Kel, Ulla, Ido, Ro,
Interpres. Adjuvilo, Romanal, Omnez, Viva, Etem= ,
Nov Latin Logui, Occidental, Uniala, Esper= ido,
Cosman, Novial, Novam, Interlingua, Con= cordu,
Neo, Kotava, Glosa, Unitario, LFN, Fa= sile, Romanova,
Romanica, Slovio, Atlango, O= mnial, Ikuso, Arlipo,
Eurana, Komunikando, X= cel, Sambahsa, LdP,
InterRoman, Eurikido, gl= obspik. ARIEL, Populido.


Carpophorophilus (1734)=
Ha folanda duus fiassade
felud in seluma, sik koke in derra.

Communicationssprache (1839)
Ta volonta f=C3=A4rerii

con C= ielu =C3=A4nsi Terru.

Volap=C3=BCk (1880)
Jenom=C3=B6z v= il olik,
=C3=A4s in s=C3=BCl, i su tal.

Weltsprache (188= 3)
Ton volunt=C3=A4t s=C3=B6t vam in le c=C3=B6l, tam in le ter.

Pasilingua (1885)
T=C3=BCa willu fairore

sur er= da ut in coela.

Spelin (1886)
Vol el zi bi faked,=
kefe ni siel, efe su sium!

Esperanto (1887)
Estu farita volo via,
kiel en = la chielo tiel anka=C3=B9 sur la tero.

Spokil (1887/1890)
Feleno lezai tio bela,
uti o zeal itu o ge= ol.

Mundolin= gue (1890)
Tei voluntate e exequer ne solu in cele ma eti in terre.

Adjuvanto (1887/1894) Estez volo tua
kome in = el c^jelo, tale anke sur el tero.
Esperanto-Reformo (1894)
Estan volo tue,
kom in cielo, sik anku su= r tero.

Bola= k (1899)
Vea vil ey makui
il gev so in sil.

<= span class=3Drvts6>Lingua Komun (1900)

Volun= t=C3=A1 tue esa fate
sur tera komo in cielo.=

Latinesce (= 1901)
Facte esse tue voluntate
ut in coele, ita in terre.


Idiom Neutral (1902)
Ke votr volu es fasied
kuale in si= el tale et su ter.

Tutonish (1902)
Dauo vil bi dun
an erd als it be in hevn.

Panroman (1903)
Ton voluntat ese fazet
in ter = kom in ziel.

Latino sine Flexione (1903)
Que tua volunta= te es facta
sicut in celo et in terra.

Pan-Kel (1905-190= 6)
So viy apsu
up glob sky.

Ulla (1906)
Dus desira este f=C3=A4red
n terra als tu este n ciela.

Ido (1907)
Tua volo facesez,
quale en la c= ielo, tale anke sur la tero.

Ro (1908)

Ace va eco,
uz in suda asi in buba.

Interpres (1908)
Tu voluntas sit facit
in el terra= sicut in el celum.

Adjuvilo (1910)
Esten farata tua vo= lo
quale en cielos tale anke sur la tero.

Romanal (1912)=
Fias volite tui,
sicut en ciele, et en terre.
Omnez (1912)
To volio = esaz exekutat
in ter quale in ciel. <= br>
Viva (1913) <= br>Makru to vil,
ut en s= ka it on ge.

Etem (1917)
Tuo vol a es,
kuam in urano, tam in geo.

Nov Latin Logui (1918)
Vun buli agitu
kvam in zoeli tam in= terri.

Occi= dental/Interlingue (1922)
Mey tui vole esser= fat
qualmen in li cieles talmen anc sur li = terre.

Unial= a (1923)
Facay volunta tuya
qom an cielu eti sur la tera

=
Esperido (1925)
Zia volo estu
kiel en himelo tiel sur te= ro.

Cosman (= 1927)
Tu vole fiey,
as in cosme sic as po terr.
=
Novial (1928)
Mey v= un volio bli fa,
kom in li siele, talim anke= sur li tere.

Novam (1928)
Vua volo fareveu
<= span class=3Drvts6>sur il tero quale nel sielo.


Interlingua (1951)
Que tu voluntate sia facite
super= le terra como etiam in le celo.
Concordu (1952)
Ti vulz= af fad,
en Munde tal in Cele.

Neo (1961)
Siu fat ta vol,

asben in cel= , as in ter.

Kotava (1978)
Rinafa kuranira moe tawada lidam kelt zo askir.

Glosa (1981)
Tu tende gene akti
epi Geo homo in = Urani Place.

Unitario (1987)
tuja wolunto ockurius,
como in la hewine tanto sur la terra.
LFN (1998)
= Tu vole ta es fada,
en l= a tera como en la sielo.

Fasile (1999)
Lawijez vudi vile= ,
in munde el in sele.

Romanova (2000)
Tua volunt=C3=A1 deve ser fasida
en la terra como tamben en el sielo.

Romanica (2001)
= Facta sia tu voluntate
super la terra como e= tiam in le celo.

Slovio (2001)
Tvoi hcenie bu na zemla takak na nebo.

Atlango (2002)
Plentumes le volyo Tustra
te sul terdo q= e il syelo.

= Omnial (2002)
Esek fakted vosal volade
iso en tere kiam en ciele.

Ikuso (2001-2003)
On fage tue boluntate

en le t= ere como en le siele.

Arlipo (2003)
Tua volo esigu
teren kvalen cielen.

Eurana (2004)
Ta volu =C3=A9a facata
como nella cielu= i teru.

Kom= unikando (20??)
Lass tu vole okurer, =
tant sur li terre kvant in li cel.

Xcel (20??)
Et ce tua-vol agesas

ter-et-c= ele.

Sambahs= a (2007)
Kwohrt bihtu tien vol
Tem dighomi quem in warwn.


LdP (2010)
= Hay yur vola gei zwo
in arda e skay. =

InterRoman (2010)
Sea fasida Tu volontade
en la tera como en lo sielo.

Eurikido (2010)
F= aceser le tui voleta,
kome in celo, sik in t= ero.

globspi= k (2010)
jor volun neses get dun, as in sel, ad dis os on glob.

ARIEL (2010)
Ce tu voluntate sera fasite,
como = in selo ance in tera.

Populido (2010)
Ke tui vol event,<= /span>
kual en ciel, tal ank sur ter!


Me volunte dankas vi omna pro via jentila kunlaboro,
per olqua, quale skribite, ni sucesabas atingar 60 traduk= uri

diferanta de nia famoza frazo di agosto,= quo reprezentas
la rekordo absoluta che pos= ta_Mundi.

Ma= xim kordial saluto, kolegaro!


* * * * * * * * p a r t a k a
* * * * = * * * *


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------------4D1777B1E78B432-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7549 Return-Path: X-Sender: attilio.liotto@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44440 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2011 14:44:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2011 14:44:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-iw0-f173.google.com) (209.85.214.173) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2011 14:44:13 -0000 X-Received: by iwl42 with SMTP id 42so2118160iwl.4 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:44:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.222.71 with SMTP id if7mr585794icb.50.1298213053224; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:44:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.231.39.197 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:44:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:44:13 +0100 Message-ID: To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304346c4e15945049cb7c763 From: Attilio Liotto Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: [MM] Ob Lingwa de Planeta? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=298912666; y=JlXFxWAUrwMWvyNmqp3PF3dzlCXp6yd1KvGPON81yjFNMrZmlhfJqG8 X-Yahoo-Profile: attilio.liotto --20cf304346c4e15945049cb7c763 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KOREKTISA: "Oftem politiker kalemi mucho e shwo nixa" Me gro pri kalemi = bat bu es un kalemi-sha. Dwa-ney kalemi-jen mus shwo nove muhim dela. Me= bu yao "babili" kun yu, bat kalemi seriose. - Hao, nu mog diskuti bat me b= u yao disputi! Swasti Attilio 2011/2/20 lingwadeplaneta > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" > escribi=F3: > > > > Hola, Dimitri! > > > > Me skribis tote = spontane mea mesajo en LdP, > > ed ol kompreneble rezultis ne tote justa. >= > yedoh ga hao, ga samajibile > > > > > > Fakte, me ne savas qua vorton vi= uzas por > > "skribar", yen pro quo me nur konjektis > > "kalemi/kalami", = radiko qua ne relatas 'parlar', > > ma "skribar". Do, se vi ne havas "kalem= i/kalami": > > "skri"?, "skribi"?, "skibi"?, "grafi"?, "yazmaki"? > > Nu he= v "skribi". Yoshi nu hev "kalam" (tul fo skribi). > Faktem riza "kalemi/kal= ami" mog relati a 'parlar' toshi. (In arabi lingwa > ye pluri farke "K", yo= shi longitaa de vokala es muhim). > > > > > > Altra-latere, se LdP advere b= ezonus ulo altra > > kam "shwo" por 'parlar', on povus "toki", "paroli", > = > 'parli', edc., ka ne? > > Hay tokiponer toki :) > Nu preferem ve shwo, o = kalemi, o boli... > > Til sun! > > * * * * * * * * > d i m i t r i > * * * = * * * * * > > > --20cf304346c4e15945049cb7c763 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

KOREKTISA:

"Oftem politiker kalemi mucho e shwo = nixa"


Me gro pri kalemi bat bu es un k= alemi-sha.

Dwa-ney kalem= i-jen mus shwo nove muhim dela.


Me bu yao = "babili" kun yu, bat kalemi seriose. - Hao, nu mog diskuti bat me= bu yao disputi!


Swasti=A0 Attilio

2011/2/20 lingwadeplaneta <lingwadeplaneta@...>
=
=A0


--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3:
>
> Hola, Dimitri! >
> Me skribis tote spontane mea mesajo en LdP,
> ed o= l kompreneble rezultis ne tote justa.

yedoh ga hao, ga sama= jibile


>
> Fakte, me ne savas qua vor= ton vi uzas por
> "skribar", yen pro quo me nur konjektis<= br> > "kalemi/kalami", radiko qua ne relatas 'parlar',=
> ma "skribar". Do, se vi ne havas "kalemi/kalami&qu= ot;:
> "skri"?, "skribi"?, "skibi"?, &= quot;grafi"?, "yazmaki"?

Nu hev "skribi&= quot;. Yoshi nu hev "kalam" (tul fo skribi).
Faktem riza &quo= t;kalemi/kalami" mog relati a 'parlar' toshi. (In arabi lingwa= ye pluri farke "K", yoshi longitaa de vokala es muhim).


>
> Altra-latere, se LdP advere bezonus ulo a= ltra
> kam "shwo" por 'parlar', on povus "tok= i", "paroli",
> 'parli', edc., ka ne?
Hay tokiponer toki :)
Nu preferem ve shwo, o kalemi, o boli...=

Til sun!

* * * * * * * *
d i m i t r i
* * * = * * * * *

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(Da Gabriel Svoboda, che l' forumo Idolisto)
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Kar amiki,

vi povas lektar kelka novajeti fresha hike:<= br> http://linguoido.ning.com= /profiles/blogs/2011-kelka-novajeti-del-unesma-1

Pro ke me exp= erimentis pri enrejistrado, vi nun povas ne nur lektar la novajeti, ma anke= askoltar oli:
http://www.box.net/shared/hm6vvjt5oy
Yen specimeno de Usa:
- 1ma di februaro 2011: La Servo Meteorologial= Nacional Usana avertis pri tempesto nivegoza, tale nomata =C2=ABblizzard= =C2=BB. Ca Tempesto dil Dio di la Marmoto komocionis est-Kanada e triadek s= tati en l' esto di Usa.

Kordiale
Gabriel Svoboda

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=GWviOP5adlK95lbFEHhHbqJP2ar1Rg4xuEjsmTTC8UZ3FYkHqxyvOWo X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kordial saluto, kolegaro! Me maxim volunte deziras dankar Antonio, James e= d Alexandre pro lia respondo-mesaji en Idolisto (le du unesma), IdoCatalaOc= citan, posta_Mundi, ed altra forumi (Alexandre). Me ne ja savas quale ed u= be me prizentos "Habemus LIA" por ke ol povez facile lektesar da omna inter= esati, ma me certe agos omno posibla por ofrar ol a vi omna tre balde. Ne-= dicinde, me ya probos realigar via helpiva sugesti e rekomendi por la publ= ikigo di mea verko. Kurajo ed adavane, amiki! "Habemus LIA" ;-) P A R T = A K A * * * * * * * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http= ://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - __________________________= ______ De: Partaka Che: idolisto@yahoogroups.com;= idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com Dato: Venerdie, la 18ma di februaro 2011,= 18:36 kl. Pri: Ube lektar la verko "Habemus LIA"? Estimata samideani: = Me esas preske finonta mea laboro revizar, korektigar ed aranjar PDF-dokum= ento por ofrar a vi omna mea original Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA". Tamen, me n= e savas ube kargar e prizentar tal dokumento por ke ol povez lektesar ne nu= r dal membri di nia forumi, ma anke da irg altra homi. Me posedas nek blo= go nek ret-situo personal. Ka vi havus la jentileso rekomendar a me la max= im bona loko, adminime viajudike, por prizentar "Habemus LIA" maxim efikiv= e? Predanko por via intereso e kunlaboro, amiki! P A R T A K A * * * * * = * * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.= com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7552 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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It have 17 pajines. Kelki forumanes ja enviav su materiales por li j= urnalo. Tamen til li fino de februaro ankor es un semano. Mi intenta publik= ar it 27 de februaro, in sundio. Til 27 de februaro vi ankor darfa enviar v= ostri materiales a enioni@... , quel esera publikat in li numero 1. E= xemplen, mi ankor no have, quo publikar in Interlingua. Anque mi prega tra= dukter isti texto de Partaka in Ido, quel deve reklamar li forum Posta_Mund= i, a diversi IALes: ---------------------- [p_M] posta_Mundi Se vi dezira= s lektar singla-die plusa inter IAL-aji, voluntez vizitar posta_Mundi, nia = komuna forumo! Maxim kordial bonveno a vi omna, IAL-uzanti! http://groups.y= ahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -------------------------- Li texto no bezona es= er precizen isti, vi darfa skribar alquo in isti senso per su propri parole= s. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7553 Return-Path: X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=_cknce2MU2KMMExZ5Bv2utAghLj5qdU03ZMNX7o8TUrCgiTscf7Akd4b X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Chao, Attilio! Me he skribi may duma om "kalemi, boli, toki" in nuy foru= m fo beginer: http://lidepla.freeforums.org/post300.html#p300 Dmitri -= -- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Attillio Liotto escr= ibi=F3: > > KOREKTISA: > > "Oftem politiker kalemi mucho e shwo nixa" > >= > Me gro pri kalemi bat bu es un kalemi-sha. > > Dwa-ney kalemi-jen mus = shwo nove muhim dela. > > > Me bu yao "babili" kun yu, bat kalemi seriose= . - Hao, nu mog diskuti bat me > bu yao disputi! > > Swasti Attilio > > = 2011/2/20 lingwadeplaneta > > > > > > > > > > > --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" > > escribi=F3: = > > > > > > Hola, Dimitri! > > > > > > Me skribis tote spontane mea mesajo = en LdP, > > > ed ol kompreneble rezultis ne tote justa. > > > > yedoh ga ha= o, ga samajibile > > > > > > > > > > Fakte, me ne savas qua vorton vi uzas = por > > > "skribar", yen pro quo me nur konjektis > > > "kalemi/kalami", ra= diko qua ne relatas 'parlar', > > > ma "skribar". Do, se vi ne havas "kalem= i/kalami": > > > "skri"?, "skribi"?, "skibi"?, "grafi"?, "yazmaki"? > > > >= Nu hev "skribi". Yoshi nu hev "kalam" (tul fo skribi). > > Faktem riza "ka= lemi/kalami" mog relati a 'parlar' toshi. (In arabi lingwa > > ye pluri far= ke "K", yoshi longitaa de vokala es muhim). > > > > > > > > > > Altra-later= e, se LdP advere bezonus ulo altra > > > kam "shwo" por 'parlar', on povus = "toki", "paroli", > > > 'parli', edc., ka ne? > > > > Hay tokiponer toki :)= > > Nu preferem ve shwo, o kalemi, o boli... > > > > Til sun! > > > > * * = * * * * * * > > d i m i t r i > > * * * * * * * * > > > > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7554 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42571 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2011 12:45:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2011 12:45:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2011 12:45:33 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2011 12:45:31 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2011 12:45:31 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:45:30 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15510548849.20110220153106@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: On fage tue boluntate... en ikuso. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=FlHF-vmP5lXs6l4mDMWgxe5scmIKM1Flg3VdqXLBSym99ARnidydWYE X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Tik-tak, Alexandre! Me trovis la frazo, quan tu aludas, en la wikipedio Es= perantal: http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinico Ka "Tino/Tinico" ne esis l= 'antea nomo dil nuna Ikuso? Kad olta esis sorto di proto-Ikuso? Se tu ad= vere preferas lo, me certe povas chanjar aden nuna Ikuso la frazo, quan oli= m me kopiis del mencionita wikipedio. Tamen, me pensas ke tal rekorda fraz= o en posta_Mundi (oltqua tradukesis aden 60 diferanta LIA-sistemi), ne plus= kreskos. Do, kar Alexandre... ~ Ono fagen tua volunteso! ;-) * * * * = * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@...= m, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo skribis: On fage tue = boluntate... en ikuso. salutos ba totos. recentamente, mio visionin dentr= o la grupo interneta para imeilo tesa postamundio (isa Posta_Mundi) pe una= mesajo kon multas tradukasionos de una fraso relijiona fa isula jesukristo= . la mesajo, fa la konpilanto isula partakao (tesula Partaka) aparan ba kon= tinuasiono. la ja longa listo de tradukasionos (la orijinalo estan en la a= rameiko, la ankora parolata linguo de isula jesukristo) kreskon sin dubidos= into altras helpoplanlinguos novas. ono noten ke la granda majoreso mater = kuestas tradukasionos aparan via euroklonos, ei ke las euroklonos tenan ino= ltre la granda majoreso de las parolantos via helpoplanlinguos. naturamente= , prokue las parolantos usan la lejislo mater la minima esforco. oji, mio = desiran nuancar una aspekto signifiva fa la ikuso, manifestata en la traduk= asiono. la teksto elektata esan "On fage tue boluntate en le tere como en l= e siele." e la periodo de formasiono mater la ikuso aparan korektamente, in= ter la ano dumila unesma ei la ano dumila triesma (2001-2003). ma la formo= elektata non esan la formo pe kualo mio, la principala parolanto aktuala d= e la ikuso, usan tipamente. la formo elektata estan proksima ba la ikuso ne= olatina, ma kon alkunas modifikasionos; eksenplamente, las sustantivos ei l= as ajetivos finan via la vokalo "e" inves la vokalo "o" ou la vokalo "a", r= espektivamente. la inperativo ei la pronomo eksterpersona aparan apokopatas= , "On fage" inves "ono fagen". ecetera. alora: se, komo alkunas parolantos= de euroklonos "rivalas" argumentan falsamente, la ikuso esun una kreasiono= privata mia, kuesto non okasionun ou, se kuesto okasionun, pe kuesto mio d= isautorun. ma la verito esan ke la ikuso, komo kualkuna cienco, metodo, teo= rio ou filosofologio (filosofio) seriosa, esan narpersona (eksterpersona), = ojetiva ei aperta fa kualkuna revisiono, modifikasiono, adaptasiono ou mejo= rasiono. donke, se altra parolanto de ikuso preferan una formo komo la for= mo citata (ou kreata) fa isula partakao, eto diritan pe kueso fagar. la kom= unikasiono kon eto via la ikuso non suferon grandas problemos, sinceramente= ; las parolantos de las diversas formos ou dialektos fa la ikuso konprenan = reciprokamente. mio usun pe la formo "ono fagen tua volunteso en la tero ko= mo en la cielo." ei mio esun konprenata por la autoro de la altra formo. k= onkludasiono: la ikuso non esan una eksperimento linguologa (linguistika) f= rivola ei esterila, sino una euroklono mejorata ei utila, sin personismos a= bsurdas. ono demandan ta mio kon certa frekueso: eske por kualo tuo non ab= andonan la ikuso, evitundo las dividasionos interlinguologas ei usundo sola= mente euroklonos klasikas kon multas parolantos, komo la esperanto, la ido,= la interlinguao (tesa Interlingua) ou la linguo franka nova (tesa Lingua F= ranca Nova)? alora, mio respondan ke mio filosofan inoltre via kuestas "gra= ndas" euroklonos, ma ke sen especialas argumentasionos metafisikas ou etika= s de fondo kontra itos, mio tenan dificilesos non evitablas kuando mio usan= kuestas euroklonos segon suas formos klasikas. eksenplamente, dentro la es= peranto aparan las supersignos, kualos obligan ortografiamente pe mio ba ko= ntinuas ekuilibros prekarias ou surogatos, ne parolundo sur la anbigua ei s= uperflua sufikso de akusativo. dentro la ido, las digrafos, la difono "x" e= i las anbiguas regulos de acento ei de semivokalasiono produktan ta mio pe = kontinuas konfliktos en la uso parolata ou eskribata de kuesta euroklono (a= lgo mejora kuanto la esperanto, segon konparasiono konpleta). la interlingu= ao presentan una kaoso de ortografio antifonetika, verbos non regulas ei fo= rmos kapricas dentro las parolos konponatas, formos kapricas pe kualos mio = devan aprendar memoramente inves las formos konponatas regulas. la linguo f= ranca nova presentan una apokopasiono kualo mutilan frekuentamente las etim= olojios internacionas. adicionamente, las kuatras euroklonos grandas citata= s presentan ta mio, ei ta kualkuna parolanto de linguos non europokcidentas= , una rasgo non por eskarsamente citata minus dificila: la obliganteso de l= as majuskulos. la linguo plus parolata en la mondo, la ciniko, ei la triesm= a linguo plus parolata en la mondo, la hindurduiko (hindiko, urduiko, hindu= staniko) tenan multas dificilesos, ui... ma non la dificileso mater kalkula= r kontinuamente la formo de kada letro. dentro la alfabeto sanskrita, la al= fabeto araba ou las ideogramos cinas, non eksistan formos majuskulas para n= ominos propras ou komenco de fraso... ei itos konprenan perfektamente inter= suos kuando itos eskriban ou lekturan suas linguos. la ikuso neutra non p= resentan kuestas problemos, konservundo la desirabla reguleso ortografia, f= ormosintaksa (morfosintaksa) ei de parolos konponatas dentro la esperanto, = la ido ou la linguo franka nova, plus la trasparenteso ou glasnosteso seman= tika internaciona de la interlinguao ou de la okcidentaliko, ma sin las dis= regulesos de kuestas duas euroklonos "naturistas". kuando mio parolan ou e= skriban la ikuso, tipamente para filosofar, mio non necesan kalkular ou dub= idar kontinuamente purse mio devan usar una letro sea majuskula sea minusku= la. mio non necesan konocar purse kuando mio eskribun las duas sonoros kont= iguas "ks" kon las duas letros "ks" ou kon la digrafo "x". mio non necesan = usar kontinuamente una sufikso ou preposiciono de akusativo inkluso en fras= os konpletamente klaras komo "mio manjan pano." mio non necesan konocar pe = las infinitas formos, especialamente en las nominos propras jeografias ei p= ersonas, pe kualos posiblan presentar la sonoro fina de una sustantivo. ei = mio non necesan aprendar absurdamente la vokabularo opaka internacionamente= de la volapuko, la roiko (tesa Ro) ou la kotavao (tesa Kotava). mio, ansi= , posiblan koncentrar mias esforcos en las aferos filosofas, inves las afer= os linguas. se vosos desiran fagar kritikasionos ciencas ei teknikas kontr= a la ikuso, non eson mio kio blokon pe kuesas kritikos ni kio respondon pe = kuesas kritikos kon atakos personas. donke, pu lekturanto, ono fagen tua v= olunteso... en ikuso. amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domi= ngo, imeilo trigrupo@... 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Isti vokablario ko= ntenet omni vokablos entrati in le linguo til nu. Frenden, Tiberio --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escri= bi=F3: > > Kara Tiberio: > > Danko pro tua bele aspektanta dokumento > ku= n la lexiki Eurikido-Ido ed Ido-Eurikido. > > Nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi)= honorizesas > per la recenta endukto di tal dokumento. > > Gratuli e til = balde! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@y= ahoogroups.com, > "qualevistandas" skribis: > > Kar ami= ki: > > Per ica mesajo, plezas a me informar vi omna, > ke jus kargesis n= ova dokumento che l' fako > "Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi. > > Doku= mento: /Eurikido-vokablarios.pdf > Responsanto: lunizitarevo > Deskripturo: Vokablario Eurikido-Ido e Ido-Eurikido > > Voluntez lekt= ar ol e juar ol en la sequanta e-adreso: > > http://es.groups.yahoo.com/g= roup/posta_Mundi/files/Eurikido-vokablarios.pdf > > Danko pro via atenco.= > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7556 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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Tua resendajo ne prezentas kompleta la posto elektro= nika di Rosto, probable pro ke Yahoo mutilas la posto pos la signo de arobo= . Yen la kompleta posto elektronika da Rosto: "enioni @ yandex.ru" (enioni= arobo yandex punto ru). Vu omna povas uzar la formo skribata da me, se vu = omisas la du spaci e la du cito-hoketi. Anke mea klarigo inter parentezi p= ovas helpar vu. Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronik= a trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- Mesajo origin= a (de Rosto, resendita da James Chandler). Kar amikes, li numero 1 del j= urnal Posta Mundi ja es preske pret por publikacion. It have 17 pajines. Ke= lki forumanes ja enviav su materiales por li jurnalo. Tamen til li fino de = februaro ankor es un semano. Mi intenta publikar it 27 de februaro, in sund= io. Til 27 de februaro vi ankor darfa enviar vostri materiales a "enioni @ = yandex.ru" (enioni arobo yandex punto ru) , quel esera publikat in li numer= o 1. Exemplen, mi ankor no have, quo publikar in Interlingua. Anque mi p= rega tradukter isti texto de Partaka in Ido, quel deve reklamar li forum Po= sta_Mundi, a diversi IALes: ---------------------- [p_M] posta_Mundi S= e vi deziras lektar singla-die plusa inter IAL-aji, voluntez vizitar posta= _Mundi, nia komuna forumo! Maxim kordial bonveno a vi omna, IAL-uzanti! h= ttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -------------------------- Li te= xto no bezona eser precizen isti, vi darfa skribar alquo in isti senso per = su propri paroles. Rosto. ------------A4351BB33AF5E2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: #1 del jurnal Posta Mundi

   =    Kara James Chandler.

&nbs= p;      Tua resendajo ne prezentas kompleta la posto elektro= nika di Rosto, probable pro ke Yahoo mutilas la posto pos la signo de arobo= .

       Yen la kom= pleta posto elektronika da Rosto: "enioni @ yandex.ru" (enio= ni arobo yandex punto ru). Vu omna povas uzar la formo skribata da me, se v= u omisas la du spaci e la du cito-hoketi.

       Anke mea klarigo inter parentezi povas helpar= vu.

       Amike, = Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).



       ----- Mesajo origina (de Rosto, = resendita da James Chandler).



&nbs= p;      Kar amikes, li numero 1 del jurnal Posta Mundi ja es= preske pret por publikacion. It have 17 pajines. Kelki forumanes ja enviav= su materiales por li jurnalo. Tamen til li fino de februaro ankor es un se= mano. Mi intenta publikar it 27 de februaro, in sundio. Til 27 de februaro = vi ankor darfa enviar vostri materiales a "enioni @ yandex.ru" (e= nioni arobo yandex punto ru) , quel esera publikat in li num= ero 1. Exemplen, mi ankor no have, quo publikar in Interlingua.

=

 

  &= nbsp;    Anque mi prega tradukter isti texto de Partaka in Ido, q= uel deve reklamar li forum Posta_Mundi, a diversi IALes:


    &nb= sp;  ----------------------

 =      [p_M] posta_Mundi

<= br>

       Se vi de= ziras lektar singla-die plusa inter IAL-aji,

       voluntez vizitar posta_Mundi, nia komuna f= orumo!

       Maxim= kordial bonveno a vi omna, IAL-uzanti!

=        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi<= /p>

       -------------------= -------

       Li t= exto no bezona eser precizen isti, vi darfa skribar alquo in isti senso per= su propri paroles.


<= span class=3Drvts14>        Rosto. 

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=sJeJAiSv77BiLGk6_OBN3wZPK_uIGl-pi7wygRz3_bI8QYw X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------E41CE1729A85706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofio. Saluti ad o= mna idisti ed idoparolanti. Me deziras sendar un texto pri filozofio a la = nova jurnalo Posta Mundi, de Rosto. Yen texto ja aparita che la listo Filoz= ofiar per Ido, ma kun kelka mikra chanji. Pro ke me esas nula stilisto o p= rozisto de Ido, me pregas a vi helpo por ke mea texto restez pasable acepte= bla sub Ido-lingua vidpunto. Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, pos= to elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- T= exto ----- Pro quo la feliceso esas desfacile obtenebla? Saluti a la no= va jurnalo Posta Mundi ed a olua redaktero Rosto. En la nova jurnal, me in= tencos prezentar inaugurala mesajo pri filozofio, klara, interesiva e ne tr= o longa. Sincere, omna homi deziras esar felica; do la afero esos interesi= va.... se me ne repetas quale papagayo la miveraji o konvencionala veraji m= ilfoye dicita pri la feliceso. Me serchas do verajo plu profunda, plu pruva= ta e plu aplikebla pri la feliceso, konkrete pri la desfacileso por obtenar= la feliceso. Yen mea aserto nuklea: la feliceso kompleta (e se la felices= o ne esas kompleta, ne esas feliceso vera) havas sua fundamento en la reali= go de la autentika volado interna da la anmo; da la anmo di la individuo. Y= en la desfacileso. Bill Gates (Bil Geyc) ne esas milionero usana per votad= o publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Giacomo Casanova (Jakomo Kasanova,= acento en la vokalo "a" de "Jakomo") ne esis granda amanto od amoranto ita= liana per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. La Granda Alexandro= ne esis imperiestro greka de Europa ed Azia per votado publika o per promo= co kom funcionero. Paul Gauguin (Pol Gogen, acento en la vokalo "e" de "Go= gen") ne esis granda piktisto franca per votado publika o per promoco kom f= uncionero. Mendeleyev ne esis granda kemiisto rusa per votado publika o pe= r promoco kom funcionero. Cervantes (Serbantes) ne esis granda romanisto h= ispana per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Ilu esis anke funci= onero, e ne amata: impostokolektisto! Maradona ne esas od esis granda futb= alisto arjentina per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Lao Tse = o Lao Zi (Lao Ci) ne esis granda filozofo china per votado publika o per pr= omoco kom funcionero. E cetere. La ecelo en la arto, la cienco, la sporto= , la politiko ed irga homa akto ne procedas tipe de la volo demokrata di la= populo, nek de la volo oligarkia di la elito, ma de la volo inteligenta e = perseveranta di la poka individui qui deziras esar ecelanta. La ecelo en l= a feliceso havas la ipsa procedo. La homo felica ne esas felica pro ke ita = homo obediis la konvencionala reguli religia, etika, politika o yura, ma pr= o ke ita homo komprenas la naturo homa e la reala, ne konvencionala, kauzi = de la feliceso o de la desfortuno. La bazo de la feliceso, do, esas konoca= r autentike la naturo homa. La populo ne agnoskas la naturo homa, nek la el= ito agnoskas la naturo homa. La naturo homa konocesas ja, esence; la cienc= o experimenta konfirmas hodie, o se necese rektifikas, la anciena konoco in= tuitiva da la profeti, gurui e filozofi. Do, se la konoco solida pri la hom= o ja existas, pro quo la homo ipsa preske nultempe aplikas ica konoco? Pro = ke la deliro narcisista de omnopoveso, individua e precipue tribua, impedas= agnoskar la limiti e la mekanismi qui agas en la homo. Exemple, la povreso= e la perioda krizi ekonomia esas nula destino fatala, ma destino komplete = evitebla; se onu agnoskas ke la homo, quale irga animalo, havas limiti demo= grafia ed ekologia, limiti absoluta e relativa. Ne esas posibla un kreskado= ekonomia e populoza eterna. E nur homo sen deliro narcisista omnopovala ag= noskas ica fakto grava; pro ico la feliceso esas desfacile obtenebla. Yen = mea departopunto. Me ne deziras monologar, ma dialogar pri la feliceso kun = la lekteri. Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika tr= igrupo@...(trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ------------E41CE1729A85706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofio.</title= > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"> <= meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Style-Type" content=3D"text/css"> <style type=3D= "text/css"><!-- body { margin: 5px 5px 5px 5px; background-color: #ffff= ff; } /* =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Text Styles =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D */ hr { color: #000000} body, table /* Normal text */ { font-siz= e: 9pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-style: normal; font-weight: nor= mal; color: #000000; text-decoration: none; } span.rvts1 /* Heading */ { = font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; font-weight: bold; color: #0000f= f; } span.rvts2 /* Subheading */ { font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial';= font-weight: bold; color: #000080; } span.rvts3 /* Keywords */ { font-s= ize: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; font-style: italic; color: #800000; } a= .rvts4, span.rvts4 /* Jump 1 */ { font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; = color: #008000; text-decoration: underline; } a.rvts5, span.rvts5 /* Jump= 2 */ { font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #008000; text-dec= oration: underline; } span.rvts6 { font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times n= ew roman'; } a.rvts7, span.rvts7 { font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times n= ew roman'; color: #0000ff; text-decoration: none; } span.rvts8 { font-si= ze: 12pt; } /* =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Para Styles =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D */ p,ul,ol /* Paragraph Style */ { text-align: left; text= -indent: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px; } .rvps1= /* Centered */ { text-align: center; } .rvps2 { text-align: justify; } -= -></style> </head> <body> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>   &nb= sp;    Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofi= o.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p class= =3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>        Saluti ad omna idi= sti ed idoparolanti.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>  = ;      Me deziras sendar un texto pri filozofio a la nova ju= rnalo Posta Mundi, de Rosto. Yen texto ja aparita che la listo Filozofiar p= er Ido, ma kun kelka mikra chanji.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class= =3Drvts6>        Pro ke me esas nula stilisto o prozist= o de Ido, me pregas a vi helpo por ke mea texto restez pasable aceptebla su= b Ido-lingua vidpunto.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6> &nb= sp;      Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto ele= ktronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).</span></p> <p c= lass=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span cla= ss=3Drvts6>        ----- Texto -----</span></p> <p clas= s=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class= =3Drvts6>        Pro quo la feliceso esas desfacile obt= enebla?</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p = class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>        Saluti a la n= ova jurnalo Posta Mundi ed a olua redaktero Rosto.</span></p> <p class=3Drv= ps2><span class=3Drvts6>        En la nova jurnal, me i= ntencos prezentar inaugurala mesajo pri filozofio, klara, interesiva e ne t= ro longa.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>     &n= bsp;  Sincere, omna homi deziras esar felica; do la afero esos interes= iva.... se me ne repetas quale papagayo la miveraji o konvencionala veraji = milfoye dicita pri la feliceso. Me serchas do verajo plu profunda, plu pruv= ata e plu aplikebla pri la feliceso, konkrete pri la desfacileso por obtena= r la feliceso.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>   &nbs= p;    Yen mea aserto nuklea: la feliceso kompleta (e se la felice= so ne esas kompleta, ne esas feliceso vera) havas sua fundamento en la real= igo de la autentika volado interna da la anmo; da la anmo di la individuo. = Yen la desfacileso.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>  =      Bill Gates (Bil Geyc) ne esas milionero usana per vota= do publika o per promoco kom funcionero.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span = class=3Drvts6>        Giacomo Casanova (Jakomo Kasanova= , acento en la vokalo "a" de "Jakomo") ne esis granda amanto od amoranto it= aliana per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero.</span></p> <p class= =3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>        La Granda Alexandr= o ne esis imperiestro greka de Europa ed Azia per votado publika o per prom= oco kom funcionero.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>  =      Paul Gauguin (Pol Gogen, acento en la vokalo "e" de "G= ogen") ne esis granda piktisto franca per votado publika o per promoco kom = funcionero.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>     =    Mendeleyev ne esis granda kemiisto rusa per votado publika o p= er promoco kom funcionero.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>=        Cervantes (Serbantes) ne esis granda romanisto = hispana per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Ilu esis anke func= ionero, e ne amata: impostokolektisto!</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span cl= ass=3Drvts6>        Maradona ne esas od esis granda fut= balisto arjentina per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero.</span></= p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>        Lao Tse= o Lao Zi (Lao Ci) ne esis granda filozofo china per votado publika o per p= romoco kom funcionero.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6> &nb= sp;      E cetere.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class= =3Drvts6>        La ecelo en la arto, la cienco, la spo= rto, la politiko ed irga homa akto ne procedas tipe de la volo demokrata di= la populo, nek de la volo oligarkia di la elito, ma de la volo inteligenta= e perseveranta di la poka individui qui deziras esar ecelanta.</span></p> = <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>        La ecelo e= n la feliceso havas la ipsa procedo. La homo felica ne esas felica pro ke i= ta homo obediis la konvencionala reguli religia, etika, politika o yura, ma= pro ke ita homo komprenas la naturo homa e la reala, ne konvencionala, kau= zi de la feliceso o de la desfortuno.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span cla= ss=3Drvts6>        La bazo de la feliceso, do, esas kon= ocar autentike la naturo homa. La populo ne agnoskas la naturo homa, nek la= elito agnoskas la naturo homa.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Dr= vts6>        La naturo homa konocesas ja, esence; la ci= enco experimenta konfirmas hodie, o se necese rektifikas, la anciena konoco= intuitiva da la profeti, gurui e filozofi. Do, se la konoco solida pri la = homo ja existas, pro quo la homo ipsa preske nultempe aplikas ica konoco? P= ro ke la deliro narcisista de omnopoveso, individua e precipue tribua, impe= das agnoskar la limiti e la mekanismi qui agas en la homo. Exemple, la povr= eso e la perioda krizi ekonomia esas nula destino fatala, ma destino komple= te evitebla; se onu agnoskas ke la homo, quale irga animalo, havas limiti d= emografia ed ekologia, limiti absoluta e relativa. Ne esas posibla un kresk= ado ekonomia e populoza eterna. E nur homo sen deliro narcisista omnopovala= agnoskas ica fakto grava; pro ico la feliceso esas desfacile obtenebla.</s= pan></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>        Y= en mea departopunto. Me ne deziras monologar, ma dialogar pri la feliceso k= un la lekteri.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>   &nbs= p;    Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika= trigrupo@...(trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).</span></p> <p class=3Drv= ps2><span class=3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts= 6><br></span></p> </body></html> ------------E41CE1729A85706-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7558 Return-Path: <qualevistandas@...> X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87859 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2011 16:33:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2011 16:33:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2011 16:33:31 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2011 16:33:31 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2011 16:33:31 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:33:29 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <iju44p+see1@...> In-Reply-To: <ijsvo2+fb2b@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" <qualevistandas@...> Subject: RE: #1 del jurnal Posta Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=pjF-Mz-HWV3JhZj6SrnChrIKVALz1LPrf1EPHqV_frADF16nugokSDY X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Hola, Rosto! Meajudike, tal reklameto kultural pri nia komuna forumo, pos= ta_Mundi, devas publikigesar sempre en Sibelingua (od en Intal, se ni kapab= lesas). Nur se to semblas a tu esar poke oportuna, ni povus probar tradukar= la texto aden diversa LIA-i por tale reklamar nia forumo, singla-monate, = per un diferanta helpo-lingui. Adavane la jurnalo POSTA MUNDI! P A R T= A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" <ro= stislav-levchenko@...> skribis: Kar amikes, li numero 1 del jurnal Posta M= undi ja es preske pret por publikacion. It have 17 pajines. Kelki forumanes= ja enviav su materiales por li jurnalo. Tamen til li fino de februaro anko= r es un semano. Mi intenta publikar it 27 de februaro, in sundio. Til 27 de= februaro vi ankor darfa enviar vostri materiales a enioni@... , quel esera= publikat in li numero 1. Exemplen, mi ankor no have, quo publikar in Inter= lingua. Anque mi prega tradukter isti texto de Partaka in Ido, quel deve = reklamar li forum Posta_Mundi, a diversi IALes: ---------------------- [p= _M] posta_Mundi Se vi deziras lektar singla-die plusa inter IAL-aji, volu= ntez vizitar posta_Mundi, nia komuna forumo! Maxim kordial bonveno a vi omn= a, IAL-uzanti! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi ------------------= -------- Li texto no bezona eser precizen isti, vi darfa skribar alquo in i= sti senso per su propri paroles. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7559 Return-Path: <rostislav-levchenko@...> X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61670 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2011 17:57:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2011 17:57:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2011 17:57:49 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2011 17:57:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2011 17:57:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:57:40 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <iju92k+omuf@...> In-Reply-To: <1844748892.20110221173312@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" <rostislav-levchenko@...> Subject: RE: Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofio. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=0gAy2YGQH5iUH_axjhkQahtVr-Q9ojg5Qu0FTWdqTIiSlPHf6V1F9QVmKoU- X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kar Alexandro, mi pensa, que mi simplen deve akcepter e inkluzar tui texto = in li numero 1 del jurnalo. Si expertes pri Ido trovara alquel erores lingu= al, ankor es tempo korektizar to. Mi tale komprendev li chefi id=E9a del t= exto: por eser plu felisi un homo deve regardar se ipsi plu realen, sin sup= erfui fantazies, saver e akcepter limites de propri natura, no revar pri ko= zes ne-posibli. Eser kontenti pri ti bon kozes in su vivo, queles li homo j= a have. -Revar pri sinmorteso o pri voyajo til Alfa de Centauro es mal. -Es= forciar evitar ekonomik krizo o ameliorar ekologio es bon. Rosto. --- E= n posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo <trigrupo@= ...> (Pensador independente) escribi=F3: > > Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo po= r un mikra texto pri filozofio. > > Saluti ad omna idisti ed idoparolanti= . > Me deziras sendar un texto pri filozofio a la nova jurnalo Posta Mundi= , de Rosto. Yen texto ja aparita che la listo Filozofiar per Ido, ma kun ke= lka mikra chanji. > Pro ke me esas nula stilisto o prozisto de Ido, me pre= gas a vi helpo por ke mea texto restez pasable aceptebla sub Ido-lingua vid= punto. > Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigr= upo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7560 Return-Path: <ila_mesajero@...> X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33451 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2011 01:50:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2011 01:50:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2011 01:50:38 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2011 01:50:37 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2011 01:50:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:50:35 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <ijv4pb+c624@...> In-Reply-To: <ijklaq+48tq@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" <chepartaka@...> Subject: RE: Frazo #27 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=z_Wcow99YJzOVFhtaTR7C0DVpx2Z6d0OXYhEiXmFeQs5LTe-hZai6zQ X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Varma saluto, p_M-ani! Semblas a me ke me ipsa audacos tradukar nia frazo = #27 aden Occidental/Interlingue e mem aden LFN; tamen, voluntez adminime em= endar mea posibla erori, nam me nule dominacas ta paro de LIA-sistemi. Yen:= Occidental/Interlingue: Ancor ti lucio ne es sur li croc. LFN: Ancora l= a lusio no es sur la onca. Kad ulo ne-korekta o ne-konvenanta? Se omno ju= sta ed en ordino, me adjuntos amba lingui e tradukuri en mea nexta listo. = Predanko por via helpo, amiki! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * *= * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" <chepartaka@...> s= kribis: Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Voluntez itere admirar nia frazo #27, = til nun tradukita, sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la 11 sequanta helpo-l= ingui o LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, A= RIEL, Eurikido, Mondlango/Ulango, Paqatyl, LdP, Populido. Esperanto: An= korau la ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko. Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la ma= no. Ido: Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hoko. Ankore la fisho ne divenis = disho. Ne ja la ganajo atingis la plajo. Interlingua: Ancora le pisce non= es sur le hamo. Ancora le ganio non es in le mano. Novial: Ankore li fis= he non ha deveni dishe. Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu. Idiom Neutral:= Ankor luk no es su krok. ARIEL: Ancora la pisco no es sur la hamo. Ancor= a la ganio no es en la mano. Eurikido: Stil isti albrikoko no trovaset in= le boko. Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko. Stil isti beli fixo = no poneset ain le dixo. Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in le taxo. Mondl= ango/Ulango: Ankore la fixo ne esan sur la huko. Paqatyl: Aun na ykanlufn= artol ykanavn neh enker. Aun yskmonet ykan neh fylenker. Aly le otsyravnlem= p suphensmon neh naperker. LdP: Haishi fish bu es in dish. Kalamar es hai= shi in mar. Gansa haishi fai dansa. Populido: Ankor ti ezok no ese sur ho= k. Ankor ti fish no divenab dish. No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. Se po= sibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #27, sive per un sive per plura versioni= sam-senca, aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Latino sine= Flexione, Volap=FCk, Glosa, Neo, LFN, od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, q= uin vi konocas. Danko e predanko pri via kunlaboro, amiki! * * * * * = * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7562 Return-Path: <aukland@...> X-Sender: aukland@... 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LFN non es mi lingua maternal, ma io ha contribuite un poco a = su traduction a in norvegian. Assi io va tentar hic. Viz LFN: Ancor la pex= no es a la onca. Sendt fra min iPad Den 22. feb. 2011 kl. 02:50 skrev "p= ostamundi" <chepartaka@...>: > Varma saluto, p_M-ani! > > Semblas= a me ke me ipsa audacos tradukar > nia frazo #27 aden Occidental/Interling= ue > e mem aden LFN; tamen, voluntez adminime > emendar mea posibla erori, = nam me nule > dominacas ta paro de LIA-sistemi. Yen: > > Occidental/Interl= ingue: > Ancor ti lucio ne es sur li croc. > > LFN: > Ancora la lusio no e= s sur la onca. > > Kad ulo ne-korekta o ne-konvenanta? > Se omno justa ed = en ordino, me adjuntos > amba lingui e tradukuri en mea nexta listo. > > P= redanko por via helpo, amiki! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * *= * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "postamundi" <chepa= rtaka@...> skribis: > > Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: > > Voluntez itere admi= rar nia frazo #27, til nun > tradukita, sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la= > 11 sequanta helpo-lingui o LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, = Novial, Idiom Neutral, > ARIEL, Eurikido, Mondlango/Ulango, Paqatyl, LdP, = > Populido. > > > Esperanto: > Ankorau la ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko.= > Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano. > > Ido: > Ankore la lucio ne esa= s sur la hoko. > Ankore la fisho ne divenis disho. > Ne ja la ganajo atingi= s la plajo. > > Interlingua: > Ancora le pisce non es sur le hamo. > Ancor= a le ganio non es in le mano. > > Novial: > Ankore li fishe non ha deveni = dishe. > Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu. > > Idiom Neutral: > Ankor luk= no es su krok. > > ARIEL: > Ancora la pisco no es sur la hamo. > Ancora l= a ganio no es en la mano. > > Eurikido: > Stil isti albrikoko no trovaset = in le boko. > Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko. > Stil isti beli= fixo no poneset ain le dixo. > Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in le taxo.= > > Mondlango/Ulango: > Ankore la fixo ne esan sur la huko. > > Paqatyl:= > Aun na ykanlufnartol ykanavn neh enker. > Aun yskmonet ykan neh fylenker= . > Aly le otsyravnlemp suphensmon neh naperker. > > LdP: > Haishi fish bu= es in dish. > Kalamar es haishi in mar. > Gansa haishi fai dansa. > > Pop= ulido: > Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok. > Ankor ti fish no divenab dish. > N= o ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. > > > Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia fr= azo #27, > sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca, > aden altra LIA-= sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, > Latino sine Flexione, Volap=C3=BCk, = Glosa, Neo, LFN, > od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. > >= Danko e predanko pri via kunlaboro, amiki! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r= t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --Apple-Mail-8-107974485 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Car Partaka.</div><div>LFN non es mi l= ingua maternal, ma io ha contribuite un poco a su traduction a in norvegian= . Assi io va tentar hic.</div><div>Viz</div><div><br></div><div>LFN:</div><= div>Ancor la pex no es a la onca.<br><br>Sendt fra min iPad</div><div><br>D= en 22. feb. 2011 kl. 02:50 skrev "postamundi" <<a href=3D"mailto:chepart= aka@...">chepartaka@...</a>>:<br><br></div><div></div><b= lockquote type=3D"cite"><div> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span= > <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> <p>Varma saluto, p_M-an= i!<br> <br> Semblas a me ke me ipsa audacos tradukar<br> nia frazo #27 aden= Occidental/Interlingue<br> e mem aden LFN; tamen, voluntez adminime<br> em= endar mea posibla erori, nam me nule<br> dominacas ta paro de LIA-sistemi. = Yen:<br> <br> Occidental/Interlingue:<br> Ancor ti lucio ne es sur li croc.= <br> <br> LFN:<br> Ancora la lusio no es sur la onca.<br> <br> Kad ulo ne-k= orekta o ne-konvenanta?<br> Se omno justa ed en ordino, me adjuntos<br> amb= a lingui e tradukuri en mea nexta listo.<br> <br> Predanko por via helpo, a= miki!<br> <br> * * * * * * * * <br> p a r t a k a<br> * * * * * * * * <br> = <br> --- En <a href=3D"mailto:posta_Mundi%40yahoogroups.com"><a href=3D"mai= lto:posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com">posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com</a></a>, <br> = "postamundi" <chepartaka@...> skribis:<br> <br> Estimata posta_Mundi-= ani:<br> <br> Voluntez itere admirar nia frazo #27, til nun<br> tradukita,= sive direte sive ne-direte, aden la <br> 11 sequanta helpo-lingui o LIA-si= stemi:<br> Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, <br> ARIEL, = Eurikido, Mondlango/Ulango, Paqatyl, LdP,<br> Populido.<br> <br> <br> Esp= eranto:<br> Ankorau la ezoko ne trovighas sur la hoko.<br> Ankorau la gajno= ne estas en la mano.<br> <br> Ido:<br> Ankore la lucio ne esas sur la hok= o.<br> Ankore la fisho ne divenis disho.<br> Ne ja la ganajo atingis la pla= jo.<br> <br> Interlingua:<br> Ancora le pisce non es sur le hamo.<br> Anco= ra le ganio non es in le mano.<br> <br> Novial:<br> Ankore li fishe non ha= deveni dishe.<br> Non ja li ganatu ha atene li manu.<br> <br> Idiom Neutr= al:<br> Ankor luk no es su krok.<br> <br> ARIEL:<br> Ancora la pisco no es= sur la hamo.<br> Ancora la ganio no es en la mano.<br> <br> Eurikido:<br>= Stil isti albrikoko no trovaset in le boko.<br> Stil isti boni ezoko no ko= ceset sur le foko.<br> Stil isti beli fixo no poneset ain le dixo.<br> Stil= isti toti kaxo no trovaset in le taxo.<br> <br> Mondlango/Ulango:<br> Ank= ore la fixo ne esan sur la huko.<br> <br> Paqatyl:<br> Aun na ykanlufnarto= l ykanavn neh enker.<br> Aun yskmonet ykan neh fylenker.<br> Aly le otsyrav= nlemp suphensmon neh naperker.<br> <br> LdP:<br> Haishi fish bu es in dish= .<br> Kalamar es haishi in mar.<br> Gansa haishi fai dansa.<br> <br> Popul= ido:<br> Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok.<br> Ankor ti fish no divenab dish.<b= r> No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj.<br> <br> <br> Se posibla, voluntez tra= dukar nia frazo #27,<br> sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senca,<br>= aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue,<br> Latino sine Flexio= ne, Volap=C3=BCk, Glosa, Neo, LFN, <br> od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, q= uin vi konocas.<br> <br> Danko e predanko pri via kunlaboro, amiki!<br> <= br> <br> * * * * * * * *<br> p a r t a k a<br> * * * * * * * *<br> <br> </= p> </div> <!-- end group email --> </div></blockquot= e></body></html> --Apple-Mail-8-107974485-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7563 Return-Path: <qualevistandas@...> X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 869 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2011 16:45:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2011 16:45:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2011 16:45:43 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2011 16:45:40 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2011 16:45:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:45:38 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <ik0p7i+b4gb@...> In-Reply-To: <1844748892.20110221173312@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "qualevistandas" <qualevistandas@...> Subject: RE: Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofio. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=GHhwj6BHof1W9L4j-hDQxJD1IoT9Hz3HkC5Hy7Bex218TbNcIPMob0g X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Saluto, Alexandre! Segun me, ni certe devas esforcar uzar maxim korekte p= osibla irga helpo-linguo, quan ni decidas utiligar kom komunikilo; tamen, a= dminime en nia forumo, posta_Mundi, e nia jurnalo, POSTA MUNDI, ube interre= nkontras plura diferanta LIA-sistemi, to esas advere ne tante grava, nam lo= maxim importanta es, ke ni omna povez interkomunikar ed interkomprenar per= neutra helpo-linguo internaciona. Ton klarigite, me pregas tu sendar (tal= qual e sen plusa varto) tua texto a POSTA MUNDI por publikigo. (Me korek= tigos nur paro de detali en tua Ido-artiklo) - jurnal -> jurnalo (en Ido).= - prezentar -> prizentar (Pri "milionero", voluntez tu ipsa konsultar Ido= -vortaro) Adavane, amiko! Nul grava problemo! P A R T A K A * * * * * * = * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Dom= ingo <trigrupo@...> skribis: Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto= pri filozofio. Saluti ad omna idisti ed idoparolanti. Me deziras sendar= un texto pri filozofio a la nova jurnalo Posta Mundi, de Rosto. Yen texto = ja aparita che la listo Filozofiar per Ido, ma kun kelka mikra chanji. Pro= ke me esas nula stilisto o prozisto de Ido, me pregas a vi helpo por ke me= a texto restez pasable aceptebla sub Ido-lingua vidpunto. Amike, Alexandro= Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo ya= hoo punto es). ----- Texto ----- Pro quo la feliceso esas desfacile obt= enebla? Saluti a la nova jurnalo Posta Mundi ed a olua redaktero Rosto. = En la nova jurnal, me intencos prezentar inaugurala mesajo pri filozofio, k= lara, interesiva e ne tro longa. Sincere, omna homi deziras esar felica; d= o la afero esos interesiva.... se me ne repetas quale papagayo la miveraji = o konvencionala veraji milfoye dicita pri la feliceso. Me serchas do verajo= plu profunda, plu pruvata e plu aplikebla pri la feliceso, konkrete pri la= desfacileso por obtenar la feliceso. [...] From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7564 Return-Path: <chepartaka@...> X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 70246 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2011 17:54:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2011 17:54:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2011 17:54:49 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2011 17:54:49 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2011 17:54:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:54:49 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <ik0t99+lvqh@...> In-Reply-To: <F38FBDE0-1A42-4E1F-9981-818805D173F5@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" <chepartaka@...> Subject: RE: Frazo #27 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=Ykkc6F0EgiAw-Q0QEWUU_t_PCkYhCyxu1DLRaRoVhtQreBVsCkUAR5o X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Hola, Osmund! Me maxim sincere dankas tu pro tua kunlaboro lor tradukar ni= a frazo #27 aden LFN; tamen, la problemo es, ke, mem agnoskante ke me ne sa= vas LFN, tua tradukuro semblas a me ne plu justa kam olta, quan me ipsa fac= is. Me serchis e trovis en LFN-vortaro la formi "ancora", "lusio" e "sur".= Me ya povis prenar la vorto "pex", ma me preferis "lusio", quale originale= . Me pregas vi, kara samforumani, qui adminime kelke lernis LFN (Lingua Fr= anka Nova), helpar ni tradukar, maxim fidinde posibla, nia frazo #27. Salu= ti e til balde! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En = posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Osmund Aukland <aukland@...> skribis: Car Pa= rtaka. LFN non es mi lingua maternal, ma io ha contribuite un poco a su tra= duction a in norvegian. Assi io va tentar hic. Viz LFN: Ancor la pex no e= s a la onca. Sendt fra min iPad Den 22. feb. 2011 kl. 02:50 skrev "post= amundi" <chepartaka@...>: Varma saluto, p_M-ani! Semblas a me ke me ips= a audacos tradukar nia frazo #27 aden Occidental/Interlingue e mem aden LFN= ; tamen, voluntez adminime emendar mea posibla erori, nam me nule dominacas= ta paro de LIA-sistemi. Yen: Occidental/Interlingue: Ancor ti lucio ne e= s sur li croc. LFN: Ancora la lusio no es sur la onca. Kad ulo ne-korek= ta o ne-konvenanta? Se omno justa ed en ordino, me adjuntos amba lingui e t= radukuri en mea nexta listo. Predanko por via helpo, amiki! * * * * * *= * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7565 Return-Path: <trigrupo@...> X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=RDPHlS9Za9ibPSXZFz9xGjAQf8pDsw7cf3fLVIeI-vsHHQo X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------1101A2F87DAD507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofio. Saluti ad o= mna idisti ed idoparolanti. Me deziras sendar un texto pri filozofio a la = nova jurnalo Posta Mundi, de Rosto. Yen texto ja aparita che la listo Filoz= ofiar per Ido, ma kun kelka mikra chanji. Pro ke me esas nula stilisto o p= rozisto de Ido, me pregas a vi helpo por ke mea texto restez pasable acepte= bla sub Ido-lingua vidpunto. Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, pos= to elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- T= exto ja emendata da via helpo ----- Pro quo la feliceso esas desfacile ob= tenebla? Saluti a la nova jurnalo Posta Mundi ed ad olua redaktero Rosto.= En la nova jurnalo, me intencos prizentar inaugurala mesajo pri filozofio= , klara, interesiva e ne tro longa. Sincere, omna homi deziras esar felica= ; do la afero esos interesiva.... se me ne repetas quale papagayo la mivera= ji o konvencionala veraji milfoye dicita pri la feliceso. Me serchas do ver= ajo plu profunda, plu pruvata e plu aplikebla pri la feliceso, konkrete pri= la desfacileso por obtenar la feliceso. Yen mea aserto nuklea: la felices= o kompleta (e se la feliceso ne esas kompleta, ne esas feliceso vera) havas= sua fundamento en la realigo de la autentika volado interna da la anmo; da= la anmo di la individuo. Yen la desfacileso. Bill Gates (Bil Geyc) ne esa= s milioniero usana per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Giacom= o Casanova (Jakomo Kasanova, acento en la vokalo "a" de "Jakomo") ne esis g= randa amanto od amoranto italiana per votado publika o per promoco kom func= ionero. La Granda Alexandro ne esis imperiestro greka de Europa ed Azia pe= r votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Paul Gauguin (Pol Gogen, ac= ento en la vokalo "e" de "Gogen") ne esis granda piktisto franca per votado= publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Mendeleyev ne esis granda kemiisto = rusa per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Cervantes (Serbantes= ) ne esis granda romanisto hispana per votado publika o per promoco kom fun= cionero. Ilu esis anke funcionero, e ne amata: impostokolektisto! Maradona= ne esas od esis granda futbalisto arjentina per votado publika o per promo= co kom funcionero. Lao Tse o Lao Zi (Lao Ci) ne esis granda filozofo china= per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Ed cetere. La ecelo en = la arto, la cienco, la sporto, la politiko ed irga homa akto ne procedas ti= pe de la volo demokrata di la populo, nek de la volo oligarkia di la elito,= ma de la volo inteligenta e perseveranta di la poka individui qui deziras = esar ecelanta. La ecelo en la feliceso havas la ipsa procedo. La homo feli= ca ne esas felica pro ke ita homo obediis la konvencionala reguli religia, = etika, politika o yura, ma pro ke ita homo komprenas la naturo homa e la re= ala, ne konvencionala, kauzi de la feliceso o de la desfortuno. La bazo de= la feliceso, do, esas konocar autentike la naturo homa. La populo ne agnos= kas la naturo homa, nek la elito agnoskas la naturo homa. La naturo homa k= onocesas ja, esence; la cienco experimenta konfirmas hodie, o se necese rek= tifikas, la anciena konoco intuitiva da la profeti, gurui e filozofi. Do, s= e la konoco solida pri la homo ja existas, pro quo la homo ipsa preske nult= empe aplikas ica konoco? Pro ke la deliro narcisista de omnopoveso, individ= ua e precipue tribua, impedas agnoskar la limiti e la mekanismi qui agas en= la homo. Exemple, la povreso e la perioda krizi ekonomia esas nula destino= fatala, ma destino komplete evitebla; se onu agnoskas ke la homo, quale ir= ga animalo, havas limiti demografia ed ekologia, limiti absoluta e relativa= . Ne esas posibla un kreskado ekonomia e populoza eterna. E nur homo sen de= liro narcisista omnopovala agnoskas ica fakto grava; pro ico la feliceso es= as desfacile obtenebla. Yen mea departopunto. Me ne deziras monologar, ma = dialogar pri la feliceso kun la lekteri. Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo = Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@...(trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es)= . ------------1101A2F87DAD507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html><head= ><title>Me pregas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofio (texto = ja emendata).

       Me pre= gas Ido-lingua helpo por un mikra texto pri filozofio.


       Saluti ad omna idisti ed idoparolanti.=

      &nbs= p;Me deziras sendar un texto pri filozofio a la nova jurnalo Posta Mundi, d= e Rosto. Yen texto ja aparita che la listo Filozofiar per Ido, ma kun kelka= mikra chanji.

  &nbs= p;    Pro ke me esas nula stilisto o prozisto de Ido, me pregas a= vi helpo por ke mea texto restez pasable aceptebla sub Ido-lingua vidpunto= .

      &nb= sp;Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@yah= oo.es (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


  &n= bsp;    ----- Texto ja emendata da via helpo -----


       Pro quo la feliceso esas desfacile = obtenebla?


=

       Saluti a l= a nova jurnalo Posta Mundi ed ad olua redaktero Rosto.

       En la nova jurnalo= , me intencos prizentar inaugurala mesajo pri filozofio, klara, interesiva = e ne tro longa.

  &nb= sp;    Sincere, omna homi deziras esar felica; do la afero esos i= nteresiva.... se me ne repetas quale papagayo la miveraji o konvencionala v= eraji milfoye dicita pri la feliceso. Me serchas do verajo plu profunda, pl= u pruvata e plu aplikebla pri la feliceso, konkrete pri la desfacileso por = obtenar la feliceso.

 = ;      Yen mea aserto nuklea: la feliceso kompleta (e se la = feliceso ne esas kompleta, ne esas feliceso vera) havas sua fundamento en l= a realigo de la autentika volado interna da la anmo; da la anmo di la indiv= iduo. Yen la desfacileso.

=        Bill Gates (Bil Geyc) ne esas milioniero usana p= er votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero.

       Giacomo Casanova (Jakomo K= asanova, acento en la vokalo "a" de "Jakomo") ne esis granda amanto od amor= anto italiana per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero.

<= p class=3Drvps2>        La Granda A= lexandro ne esis imperiestro greka de Europa ed Azia per votado publika o p= er promoco kom funcionero.

=        Paul Gauguin (Pol Gogen, acento en la vokalo "e= " de "Gogen") ne esis granda piktisto franca per votado publika o per promo= co kom funcionero.

  =      Mendeleyev ne esis granda kemiisto rusa per votado publ= ika o per promoco kom funcionero.

       Cervantes (Serbantes) ne esis granda r= omanisto hispana per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero. Ilu esis = anke funcionero, e ne amata: impostokolektisto!

       Maradona ne esas od esis g= randa futbalisto arjentina per votado publika o per promoco kom funcionero.=

      &nbs= p;Lao Tse o Lao Zi (Lao Ci) ne esis granda filozofo china per votado publik= a o per promoco kom funcionero.

       Ed cetere.

       La ecelo en la arto, la cienco= , la sporto, la politiko ed irga homa akto ne procedas tipe de la volo demo= krata di la populo, nek de la volo oligarkia di la elito, ma de la volo int= eligenta e perseveranta di la poka individui qui deziras esar ecelanta.

       La= ecelo en la feliceso havas la ipsa procedo. La homo felica ne esas felica = pro ke ita homo obediis la konvencionala reguli religia, etika, politika o = yura, ma pro ke ita homo komprenas la naturo homa e la reala, ne konvencion= ala, kauzi de la feliceso o de la desfortuno.

<= span class=3Drvts6>        La bazo de la feliceso, do, = esas konocar autentike la naturo homa. La populo ne agnoskas la naturo homa= , nek la elito agnoskas la naturo homa.

       La naturo homa konocesas ja, esenc= e; la cienco experimenta konfirmas hodie, o se necese rektifikas, la ancien= a konoco intuitiva da la profeti, gurui e filozofi. Do, se la konoco solida= pri la homo ja existas, pro quo la homo ipsa preske nultempe aplikas ica k= onoco? Pro ke la deliro narcisista de omnopoveso, individua e precipue trib= ua, impedas agnoskar la limiti e la mekanismi qui agas en la homo. Exemple,= la povreso e la perioda krizi ekonomia esas nula destino fatala, ma destin= o komplete evitebla; se onu agnoskas ke la homo, quale irga animalo, havas = limiti demografia ed ekologia, limiti absoluta e relativa. Ne esas posibla = un kreskado ekonomia e populoza eterna. E nur homo sen deliro narcisista om= nopovala agnoskas ica fakto grava; pro ico la feliceso esas desfacile obten= ebla.

     =  Yen mea departopunto. Me ne deziras monologar, ma dialogar pri la fe= liceso kun la lekteri.

&nb= sp;      Amike, Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto ele= ktronika trigrupo@...(trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


------------1101A2F87DAD507-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7566 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 7265 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2011 19:40:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2011 19:40:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.eidsiva.net) (82.147.40.138) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2011 19:40:11 -0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgEAGOgY01SkygDgWdsb2JhbACCSoFWk0GGNYc0aQEBFiIkrUaQXoRodgSBaIlQW4M7ghp2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,207,1297033200"; d="scan'208,217";a="26883508" X-Received: from mail.bbnett.no (HELO bbnett.no) ([82.147.40.3]) by mtc2.eidsiva.net with ESMTP; 22 Feb 2011 20:39:58 +0100 X-Received: from [87.248.1.6] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by bbnett.no with esmtp (Exim 4.32 #6 (Debian)) id 1Pry5V-0007KQ-Uf for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:39:58 +0100 References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-121342019 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <753E7264-0FF3-4AB2-B7F7-E058682EA7E4@...> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:40:04 +0100 To: "posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8C148) From: Osmund Aukland Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #27 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=337052799 --Apple-Mail-9-121342019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Car Partaka! Es OK pro me. Ma io non trova lusio in le vocabulario del LFN= . Es que tu usa le LFN home page? Que es "lucio / lusio"? Io non le trova i= n le vocabulario de interlingua. Nonobstante, tu es le chef e decide que sc= riber. Io es contente esser un participante in tu forum. Con gratias e imbr= acios amical! Osmund Sendt fra min iPad Den 22. feb. 2011 kl. 18:54 skrev= "postamundi" : > Hola, Osmund! > > Me maxim sinc= ere dankas tu pro tua > kunlaboro lor tradukar nia frazo #27 > aden LFN; ta= men, la problemo es, ke, > mem agnoskante ke me ne savas LFN, > tua traduku= ro semblas a me ne plu justa > kam olta, quan me ipsa facis. Me serchis > e= trovis en LFN-vortaro la formi "ancora", > "lusio" e "sur". Me ya povis pr= enar la vorto > "pex", ma me preferis "lusio", quale originale. > > Me pre= gas vi, kara samforumani, qui adminime > kelke lernis LFN (Lingua Franka No= va), helpar ni > tradukar, maxim fidinde posibla, nia frazo #27. > > Salut= i e til balde! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > = > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > Osmund Aukland skrib= is: > > Car Partaka. > LFN non es mi lingua maternal, ma io ha contribuite= un poco a su traduction a in norvegian. Assi io va tentar hic. > Viz > > = LFN: > Ancor la pex no es a la onca. > > Sendt fra min iPad > > Den 22. f= eb. 2011 kl. 02:50 skrev "postamundi" : > > Varma saluto, = p_M-ani! > > Semblas a me ke me ipsa audacos tradukar > nia frazo #27 aden= Occidental/Interlingue > e mem aden LFN; tamen, voluntez adminime > emenda= r mea posibla erori, nam me nule > dominacas ta paro de LIA-sistemi. Yen: >= > Occidental/Interlingue: > Ancor ti lucio ne es sur li croc. > > LFN: >= Ancora la lusio no es sur la onca. > > Kad ulo ne-korekta o ne-konvenanta= ? > Se omno justa ed en ordino, me adjuntos > amba lingui e tradukuri en me= a nexta listo. > > Predanko por via helpo, amiki! > > * * * * * * * * > = p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --Apple-Mail-9-121342019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car Partaka!
Es OK pro me.&n= bsp;
Ma io non trova lusio in le vocabulario del LFN.
E= s que tu usa le LFN home page?
Que es "lucio / lusio"?
= Io non le trova in le vocabulario de interlingua.
Nonobstante, tu= es le chef e decide que scriber.
Io es contente esser un partici= pante in tu forum.
Con gratias e imbracios amical!
Osmu= nd

Sendt fra min iPad

Den 22. feb. 2011 kl. 18:= 54 skrev "postamundi" <chepart= aka@...>:

=
 

Hola, Osmund!

Me maxim sincere dank= as tu pro tua
kunlaboro lor tradukar nia frazo #27
aden LFN; tamen,= la problemo es, ke,
mem agnoskante ke me ne savas LFN,
tua traduku= ro semblas a me ne plu justa
kam olta, quan me ipsa facis. Me serchis e trovis en LFN-vortaro la formi "ancora",
"lusio" e "sur". Me ya p= ovis prenar la vorto
"pex", ma me preferis "lusio", quale originale.
Me pregas vi, kara samforumani, qui adminime
kelke lernis LFN (L= ingua Franka Nova), helpar ni
tradukar, maxim fidinde posibla, nia fraz= o #27.

Saluti e til balde!

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a= k a
* * * * * * * *

--- En posta_Mundi= @yahoogroups.com,
Osmund Aukland skribis:<= br>
Car Partaka.
LFN non es mi lingua maternal, ma io ha contribui= te un poco a su traduction a in norvegian. Assi io va tentar hic.
Viz
LFN:
Ancor la pex no es a la onca.

Sendt fra min iPa= d

Den 22. feb. 2011 kl. 02:50 skrev "postamundi" :

Varma saluto, p_M-ani!

Semblas a me ke me ipsa = audacos tradukar
nia frazo #27 aden Occidental/Interlingue
e mem ad= en LFN; tamen, voluntez adminime
emendar mea posibla erori, nam me nule=
dominacas ta paro de LIA-sistemi. Yen:

Occidental/Interlingu= e:
Ancor ti lucio ne es sur li croc.

LFN:
Ancora la lusio= no es sur la onca.

Kad ulo ne-korekta o ne-konvenanta?
Se om= no justa ed en ordino, me adjuntos
amba lingui e tradukuri en mea nexta= listo.

Predanko por via helpo, amiki!

* * * * * * * * =
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

=
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E la nepreciza = Imajo respondis ad elu : - Divenez kurajoza, e timez nulo en tua mento. = Il havas kompanino tala ke la cetera viri dezirus anke volunte havar elu,= nam el povas omno. Lo esas Pallas Athene, ed el havas kompato por tua je= mi,e, nun el sendas me dicar ico a tu. E la saja Penelopeia respondis a lu= : - Se tu esas Deino, e se tu audis la voco dil Deino, parolez a me pri l= a desfortunoza Odissevs. Ka lu ankore vivas ulaloke, e ka lu vidas la lum= o di Helios, o kad il esas mortinto ed en la domi di Aides ? Lore la nepr= eciza Imajo respondis a lu : - Me dicos a tu nulo pri il . Kad il esas vi= vanta o mortinta ? Oportas ne dicar vana paroli. Dum dicar ico, lu desapar= is alonge la riglo en la suflo dil vento. E la filiino d'Ikarios vekis, e= lua kara kordio joyis pro ke verdicanta sonjo vizitabis elu en l'ombro d= il nokto. E la Pretendanti navigis sur la humida voyi, dum projetar en li= a mento la kruela mortigo di Telemakhos. Ed esas insulo meze dil maro rok= ajoza, inter Ithake e l'akra Samos, Asteris, olqua ne esas granda, ma ube= esas por la navi, portui havanta duopla ekireyo. Lo esas en ita loko ke = haltis la embuskita Akhaiani. (Duro sequos) --0-1936290069-1298494528=:75342 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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E la nepreciza Imajo respondis ad elu :
- Divenez kurajoza, e timez= nulo en tua mento. Il havas kompanino tala ke la cetera viri dezirus ank= e volunte havar elu, nam el povas omno. Lo esas Pallas Athene, ed el = havas kompato por tua jemi,e, nun el sendas me dicar ico a tu.
=
E la saja Penelo= peia respondis a lu :
- Se tu esas Deino, e se tu audis la voco dil Deino, pa= rolez a me pri la desfortunoza Odissevs. Ka lu ankore vivas ulaloke, e ka = lu vidas la lumo di Helios, o kad il esas mortinto ed en la domi di Aides = ?
Lo= re la nepreciza Imajo respondis a lu :
- Me dicos a tu nulo pri il . Kad il e= sas vivanta o mortinta ? Oportas ne dicar vana paroli.
Dum dicar ico, lu desapa= ris alonge la riglo en la suflo dil vento. E la filiino d'Ikarios vekis, e= lua kara kordio joyis pro ke verdicanta sonjo vizitabis elu en l'ombro di= l nokto.
E la Pretendanti navigis sur la humida voyi, dum projetar en lia me= nto la kruela mortigo di Telemakhos. Ed esas insulo meze dil maro rokajoza= , inter Ithake e l'akra Samos, Asteris, olqua ne esas granda, ma ube esas = por la navi, portui havanta duopla ekireyo. Lo esas en ita loko ke haltis = la embuskita Akhaiani.
 
(Duro sequos)
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  =      Kara Partaka.

 = ;      Me konocas ed utiligas freque Vorteko por Windows; Vo= rteko por Windows havas interne Dicionareko.

       En ica ipsa mesajo me utiligas Vorteko.

       Danko.<= /p>

       Alexandro Xavero Ka= sanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo p= unto es).


       ----- mesajo originala -----


  =      Kar Alexandre:


<= /span>

       Quankam me i= psa nul-tempe uzis oli (e ne mem savas quale oli funcionas), forsan esus in= teresanta por tu utiligar Vorteko e Dicionareko (kreitaji da nia Franca sam= forumano, Lenadi Moucina) por kontrolar tua ortografio en Ido:

<= p>

  &nbs= p;    http://danielmacouin.chez-alice.fr/


      &= nbsp;Maxim bona ed efikiva laboro, amiko!


       P A R= T A K A

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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90031 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2011 00:10:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2011 00:10:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 00:10:56 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 00:10:56 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 00:10:56 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:10:54 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: [MM] Ka maligni sorcista? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=fY8xn1jSkqdADTKbgHuKSR7en-q2nR2ftYrrmxPIgF9jqyBQAI0WBSw X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Me infanto en urbe Valencia. Me sente ke maligni sorcista persekue me, e me= fuge, e kure, kure, til ke, plen pavorigat, me reste plen paralizat prox = le ligne-ponte. Me no plus pove fuge, e me turne mei kap, desesperat, nam = me save ke maligni sorcista dure persekue me... Ka maligni sorcista? Yen ke= mei maligni sorcista es oldi stuv elektral, kel varmige mei dom per sui gr= and okul red, protektat per sorte de dopi skren. Ho, ya! Ma, yen ke le stuv= , acensat, adverei persekue me sur le strads: me vide lu, lor turne mei ka= p. Yen infanto, kel subisab koshmar. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7573 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38168 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2011 06:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2011 06:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 06:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 06:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 06:55:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:55:33 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1584e34c1003221440w78e55edfvefc86632e0257d4@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: L'ESPERO DIL IDISTI (Texto di himno) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=VIEPWRc0TsgWsF-xwnMCiONbB4pwhnM1sVzVjjiyECnDxV6e57TmlZ0 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas He, Carlos-Andr=E9s! Me tote obliviabis lo: Existas anciena Ido-versiono d= e LA ESPERO (da Gon=E7alo Neves). L'ESPERO En la mondo venis nova sento, = Tra la mondo iras forta voko; per la ali di lejera vento Nun de loko flugez= ol a loko. Ne a glavo sangon ja durstanta Ol homala tiras nun la gento: A= la mond' eterne militanta Ol promisas santa sentimento. Sub la santa sign= o dil espero Kolektesas paco-batalianti, E rapide kreskas la afero Per labo= ro da la esperanti. Forte stacas muri di yarmili Inter la populi dividita;= Ma dissaltos l'obstinem barili, Per la santa amo abatita. Sur linguala ne= utra fundamento, Komprenante singla l'altra genti, La populi facos en konse= nto Un tre granda rondo de parenti. Nia diligenta kolegaro En pacala peno = ne feblesos, Til ke l' bela sonjo dil homaro Por eterna grac' efektigesos. = Ka tu ne saveskabis pri tal Ido-versiono? Yen plusa bona motivo por ke t= u kantez :-) Kantez, Carlos! Kantez! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Carlos Andr=E9s Sol=EDs = skribis: Danki pro vua versiono, me probos fuzar lo kun mea versiono. - Ca= rlos Sol=EDs 2010/3/22 Tiberio L'ESPERO DIL IDIS= TI Idala versiono di la himno Esperantala "LA ESPERO" A la mondo venis nov= a sento, Tra la mondo iras forta voko; E per l'ali di lejera vento Nun de l= oko flugez ol a loko. Ne_ad espado sango-deziranta Ol atraktas la homal fa= milio: A la mondo_eterne militanta Ol promisas amikal koncilio. Sub la san= ta signo dil espero Kolektesas paco-batalianti, E rapide kreskas la afero P= er laboro di la esperanti. Forte stacas muri de yarmili Inter la populi se= parita; Ma dissaltos l'obstinem barili, Dal sant amo omni frakasita. Sur l= inguala neutra fundamento, Interkomprenante en la mondo, La populi facos en= konsento Un grandega familiara rondo. Nia diligenta kolegaro En labor' pa= cal ne fatigesos, Til ke la bel sonjo dil homaro Por eterna graco realigeso= s. Texto originala "LA ESPERO" da Ludwik Lejzer Zamenhof Versiono en Ido d= a Tiberio Madonna (pro deziro di Carlos Andr=E9s Sol=EDs) La vokali unioni= ta per la signo "_" kantesas kune. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7574 Return-Path: X-Sender: attilio.liotto@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 26066 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2011 11:33:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2011 11:33:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-iy0-f174.google.com) (209.85.210.174) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 11:33:31 -0000 X-Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so282774iyb.5 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 03:33:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.231.16.68 with SMTP id n4mr1240468iba.94.1298547210686; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 03:33:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.231.32.7 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 03:33:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:33:30 +0100 Message-ID: To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532c58c3793fd049d059582 From: Attilio Liotto Subject: Lidepla konversacia kurseto X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=298912666; y=XC-VVFuJFCldbTqIffL-M58S1aTkXyRjjMG0i-3jgmBNCSwChsSOa_I X-Yahoo-Profile: attilio.liotto --00221532c58c3793fd049d059582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nihao! =3D Saluton! Karaj posta_Mundi amikoj, mi =C4=9Doje komunikas al v= i ke en la nova facebook lidepla grupo: LIDEPLA =E2=80=93 (Grupo por espera= ntistoj kaj aliaj planlingvanoj) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D11= 1270655599347 balda=C5=AD komenci=C4=9Dos =E2=80=9Ctoki-kursa=E2=80=9D (ko= nversacian kurson) kun specifaj klarigoj en Esperanto. Tie vi povos pridema= ndi en Esperanto kaj oni respondos al vi dulingve =E2=80=9Cesperante kaj en= lidepla=E2=80=9D. Vi povos pridemandi anka=C5=AD usante aliajn lingvojn, s= ed rapidaj respondoj estos nur en la du lingvoj: Esperanto kaj lidepla. Kro= me vi povos proponi novajn vortojn a=C5=AD esprimojn aldonendaj al vortaro = lidepla. Se vi =C5=9Datas la hamonian lingvon =E2=80=9Clidepla=E2=80=9D, al= i=C4=9Du senhezite al =C4=89i tiu grupo, vi povos konstati kiom facile oni = povas sciipovi =C4=89i eksterordinaran internacian lingvon. Swasti! =3D La= bono estu kun vi! Til sun! =3D =C4=9Cis balda=C5=AD! amike Attilio * LID= EPLA =E2=80=93 Grupo por esperantistoj (Balda=C5=AD lidepla kurseto) http:/= /www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D111270655599347 DEMANDOJ KAJ RESPONDOJ P= RI LIDEPLA =E2=80=93 En grupo Lingvo de Planeta http://www.facebook.com/gro= up.php?gid=3D111270655599347&v=3Dapp_2373072738#!/topic.php?uid=3D111270655= 599347&topic=3D132 Guran =E2=80=93 La gruo http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DMwwKb9BYFTk&feature=3Dmfu_in_order&list=3DUL Dialoga pa lidepla =E2=80= =93 Dialogo en lingvo lidepla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6qK3usIj3zo= &feature=3Dmfu_in_order&list=3DUL Syao LdP leson - malgranda leciono = de LdP (Lingvo de Planeta) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOiZf0vCZp3M&fe= ature=3Dmfu_in_order&list=3DUL KIO ESTAS LIDEPLA? http://www.facebook.com= /group.php?gid=3D139871949380941&v=3Dapp_2373072738#!/topic.php?uid=3D13987= 1949380941&topic=3D270 --00221532c58c3793fd049d059582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Nihao! =3D Saluton!

Karaj posta_Mundi amikoj,
mi =C4=9Doje komunikas al vi ke en la nova= facebook lidepla grupo:
LIDEPLA =E2=80=93 (Grupo por esperantistoj kaj= aliaj planlingvanoj)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid= =3D111270655599347

balda=C5=AD komenci=C4=9Dos =E2=80=9Ctoki-k= ursa=E2=80=9D (konversacian kurson) kun specifaj klarigoj en Esperanto.
= Tie vi povos pridemandi en Esperanto kaj oni respondos al vi dulingve =E2= =80=9Cesperante kaj en lidepla=E2=80=9D. Vi povos pridemandi anka=C5=AD usa= nte aliajn lingvojn, sed rapidaj respondoj estos nur en la du lingvoj: Espe= ranto kaj lidepla.
Krome vi povos proponi novajn vortojn a=C5=AD esprim= ojn aldonendaj al vortaro lidepla.
Se vi =C5=9Datas la hamonian lingvo= n =E2=80=9Clidepla=E2=80=9D, ali=C4=9Du senhezite al =C4=89i tiu grupo, vi = povos konstati kiom facile oni povas sciipovi =C4=89i eksterordinaran inter= nacian lingvon.

Swasti! =3D La bono estu kun vi!
Til sun! =3D = =C4=9Cis balda=C5=AD!

amike Attilio

*
LIDEPLA =E2=80= =93 Grupo por esperantistoj (Balda=C5=AD lidepla kurseto)
ht= tp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D111270655599347

DEMANDOJ= KAJ RESPONDOJ PRI LIDEPLA =E2=80=93 En grupo Lingvo de Planeta
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D111270655599347&v=3Dapp_237= 3072738#!/topic.php?uid=3D111270655599347&topic=3D132

Guran =E2=80=93 La gruo

=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMwwKb9BYFTk= &feature=3Dmfu_in_order&list=3DUL

Dialoga pa lidepla =E2=80=93 Dialogo en lingvo lidepla

=

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6qK3usIj3zo&a= mp;feature=3Dmfu_in_order&list=3DUL

=C2=A0

Syao LdP leson=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2= =A0 malgranda leciono de LdP (Lingvo de Planeta)

http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOiZf0vCZp3M&feature=3Dmfu_in_order&list= =3DUL

=
KIO ESTAS LIDEPLA?
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      &nbs= p;Hola, Partaka.

      &= nbsp;Kad euroklonon utiligas tu en ica rakonto?

       Amike, el Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo D= omingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es)= .


       ----- Mesajo originala -----


    &= nbsp;  Me infanto en urbe Valencia. Me sente ke maligni sorcista perse= kue me, e me fuge, e kure, kure, til ke, plen pavorigat, me reste plen para= lizat prox le ligne-ponte. Me no plus pove fuge, e me turne mei kap, desesp= erat, nam me save ke maligni sorcista dure persekue me... Ka maligni sorcis= ta? Yen ke mei maligni sorcista es oldi stuv elektral, kel varmige mei dom = per sui grand okul red, protektat per sorte de dopi skren. Ho, ya! Ma, yen = ke le stuv, acensat,adverei persekue me sur le strads: me vide lu, lor turn= e mei kap. Yen infanto, kel subisab koshmar. 

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------------501B1131C66ED4A-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7576 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14616 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2011 12:26:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2011 12:26:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 12:26:14 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 12:26:13 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 12:26:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:26:11 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1441625351.20110224125101@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Ka maligni sorcista? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=rk2rzmER-SAHZYD51GMbBXgjzBxS8evT9VSJ952UafqXVYbXrSf-cw0 X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Salut, kompan! To, ko me skribab subei, no es rakonte, ma realaje, kel me t= ravivab. Le ling, kel me utiligab (ed iter utilige ci) es Populido, olkel, = principei, uze Ido-vortar. Me no save ka Populido es euroklon, nam ankor re= ste no klar ko es euroklon, vorte kel on komencab uze por refere nur a grup= de lings naturalatri, kual Interlingua, exemplei. Me profite por korektige= vorte, kel me faliab: "acensat -> acendat". Au, amik. Til baldei! (Partak= a) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo= skribab: Hola, Partaka. Kad euroklonon utiligas tu en ica= rakonto? Amike, el Alexandro Xavero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika t= rigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- Mesajo originala -----= Me infanto en urbe Valencia. Me sente ke maligni sorcista persekue me, e= me fuge, e kure, kure, til ke, plen pavorigat, me reste plen paralizat pro= x le ligne-ponte. Me no plus pove fuge, e me turne mei kap, desesperat, nam= me save ke maligni sorcista dure persekue me... Ka maligni sorcista? Yen k= e mei maligni sorcista es oldi stuv elektral, kel varmige mei dom per sui g= rand okul red, protektat per sorte de dopi skren. Ho, ya! Ma, yen ke le stu= v, acensat,adverei persekue me sur le strads: me vide lu, lor turne mei kap= . Yen infanto, kel subisab koshmar. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7577 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2146 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2011 14:08:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2011 14:08:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 14:08:38 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 14:08:38 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 14:08:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:08:36 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Ka maligni sorcista? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=G2wy42_zKZ08wkZ69QjV8z29vfEqm28lbu3p5vwu83IZ-DydGjM9AjjJK5dT X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Saluto a omnes. Pro que mie politiko, quam redaktor del jurnal, relata al t= ema, quo es euroklones, mi deve nun skribar hike pri isto. Mi nun explorav = Wikipedia e trovav artikles pri "Euroklon" in 5 linguas: Esperanto, Hispane= si, Italiesi, Niderlandesi e Koreesi. Li Koreesi artiklo no es komprendebli= por me, Li Niderlandesi anque mi preske no komprende, ma almene mi vide ib= e, qual IALes es inkluzat in euroklones. Li Hispanesi e Italiesi artikles e= s skribat per simpli paroles, e mi komprendev preske omno. Hispanesi, Itali= esi e Niderlandesi artikles inkluza: e "naturalistik" sistemas quale Interl= ingua o Occidental, e plu skematik quale Esperanto o Ido, e mem Glosa, Wola= p=FCk, e anque Latino sine Flexione, e Folkspraak, e Romanica. Li Esperanti= stik artiklo have toten altri vidpunkto. Esperanto no es inkluzat. Koncernu= Ido - "Lau alia difino de Euroklono, kiun uzas Richard K. Harrison, ili es= tas kompromisplanlingvoj inter Ido kaj Interlingvao." Un stranji afero: pro= quo "inter Ido kaj Interlingvao", ma no "inter Esperanto kaj Interlingvao"= ? Li afero es, que hike noi have un ideologik punkto. Ya, Esperanto nul-kaz= en darfa eser nominat quam "Euroklon". Ido darfa eser nominat tale, ma no E= speranto. Pro que isto signifika agnoskar europocentreso de Esperanto. Ma o= ficial ideologia de Esperanto dice, que Esperanto es plu proxim al Chinesi = lingua. Qual Euroklon? Pri quo vi in toten dice? Yen, ube ideologia es in l= i prim plaso, ibe vi no havera scientifik vidpunkto. Forsan adveren "Eurok= lon" no es tre oportuni koncepto. Forsan, mi deve dicer pri ENIONI-simil li= nguas. E Populido, e Ikuso sindubitablen es ENIONI-simil. Rosto. --- En = posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > = Salut, kompan! To, ko me skribab subei, > no es rakonte, ma realaje, kel me= travivab. > Le ling, kel me utiligab (ed iter utilige ci) > es Populido, o= lkel, principei, uze Ido-vortar. > Me no save ka Populido es euroklon, nam = > ankor reste no klar ko es euroklon, vorte > kel on komencab uze por refer= e nur a grup > de lings naturalatri, kual Interlingua, exemplei. > Me profi= te por korektige vorte, kel me faliab: > "acensat -> acendat". Au, amik. Ti= l baldei! > (Partaka) > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > Alexa= ndre Xavier Casanova Domingo skribab: > > Hola, Partaka. > > = Kad euroklonon utiligas tu en ica rakonto? > > Amike, el Alexandro Xavero = Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@ (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto e= s). > > ----- Mesajo originala ----- > > Me infanto en urbe Valencia. M= e sente ke maligni sorcista persekue me, e me fuge, e kure, kure, til ke, p= len pavorigat, me reste plen paralizat prox le ligne-ponte. Me no plus pove= fuge, e me turne mei kap, desesperat, nam me save ke maligni sorcista dure= persekue me... Ka maligni sorcista? Yen ke mei maligni sorcista es oldi st= uv elektral, kel varmige mei dom per sui grand okul red, protektat per sort= e de dopi skren. Ho, ya! Ma, yen ke le stuv, acensat,adverei persekue me su= r le strads: me vide lu, lor turne mei kap. Yen infanto, kel subisab koshma= r. > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7578 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=lrrTuhdBL-a2qi0vv2Vj8kNwl2Rvej9pe0KtaEtkVCFgrHw X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------12612C583C3726E6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist? Saluton al vi cxiuj. Kiel sciite, a= ntauxlonge la listo IALlist estas infektita de spamo, koruptita de mesagxoj= pri pornografio aux pri ies ricxa nekonata onklo kiu mortis en Ugandujo, k= aj tiel plu. Cxar, evidente, neniu kontrolas teknike la liston, evitante ti= un spamadon. Mi, do, demandas: cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist kie ne = aperu spamo, sen ankaux kun neniu cenzuro de ideoj, jen rekta jen ruza kaj = nerekta? Ekzemple, la malpermeso de sendi mesagxojn plurliste, ecx se evide= nte tauxgaj al la celata cxefa listo, estas ruza formo de cenzuro de ideoj,= kiun mi ne akceptas nek akceptos. Evidente, mi mem povas facile krei nova= n version de IALlist, nun sen spamo. Sed se tia listo jam ekzistas, pli fac= ila tasko por mi estus aligxi. Mi nuancas ke mi deziras liston, forumon, au= x tiel plu, kie la materialoj estu facile konsulteblaj kaj kopieblaj sen be= zono de kontinua interneta sxaltado; mi ne povas nek deziras vivi gluita al= komputero! Por tiuj kiuj ne konas la liston IALlist, jen la retadreso: ht= tp://groups.yahoo.com/group/iallist/. Kaj jen gxia priskribo: IALlist esta= s listo kiu diskutas la staton de la esplorado pri helpoplanlingvoj, kiel O= ccidental, Esperanto, Acadon, Lojban, Ido, Interlingua kaj aliaj. Gxi estas= pensita por oferi liberan intersxangxejon de ideoj kaj komparon de datumoj= , sen personaj atakoj kaj sen bandaj koterioj. Amike, el Aleksandro Ksaver= o Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika posxto trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo ya= hoo punto es). ------------12612C583C3726E6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist? <= body>

       Cxu= ekzistas nova versio de IALlist?

       Saluton al vi cxiuj.

       Kiel sciite, ant= auxlonge la listo IALlist estas infektita de spamo, koruptita de mesagxoj p= ri pornografio aux pri ies ricxa nekonata onklo kiu mortis en Ugandujo, kaj= tiel plu. Cxar, evidente, neniu kontrolas teknike la liston, evitante tiun= spamadon.

    &= nbsp;  Mi, do, demandas: cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist kie ne ap= eru spamo, sen ankaux kun neniu cenzuro de ideoj, jen rekta jen ruza kaj ne= rekta? Ekzemple, la malpermeso de sendi mesagxojn plurliste, ecx se evident= e tauxgaj al la celata cxefa listo, estas ruza formo de cenzuro de ideoj, k= iun mi ne akceptas nek akceptos.

       Evidente, mi mem povas facile krei novan = version de IALlist, nun sen spamo. Sed se tia listo jam ekzistas, pli facil= a tasko por mi estus aligxi. Mi nuancas ke mi deziras liston, forumon, aux = tiel plu, kie la materialoj estu facile konsulteblaj kaj kopieblaj sen bezo= no de kontinua interneta sxaltado; mi ne povas nek deziras vivi gluita al k= omputero!

    &n= bsp;  Por tiuj kiuj ne konas la liston IALlist, jen la retadreso: = ;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iallist/.

       Kaj jen gxia priskribo: IALlist es= tas listo kiu diskutas la staton de la esplorado pri helpoplanlingvoj, kiel= Occidental, Esperanto, Acadon, Lojban, Ido, Interlingua kaj aliaj. Gxi est= as pensita por oferi liberan intersxangxejon de ideoj kaj komparon de datum= oj, sen personaj atakoj kaj sen bandaj koterioj.

       Amike, el Aleksandro Ksav= ero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika posxto trigrupo@...&nbs= p;(trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


------------12612C583C3726E6-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7579 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92001 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2011 17:08:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2011 17:08:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 17:08:51 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 17:08:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 17:08:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:08:49 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <125394132.20110224164859@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=qE-GAPzEyVRu9hgXWrt5qS9QPgKD3y1iXq5FdsCEMidb6qkmo4tHb41Nl7jC X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kara Aleksandro, kial ci ne shatas Bablo-n? http://groups.google.com/group= /bablo Yen, kio estas skrbita tie: "Tiu listo estas por diskuti ion ajn e= n konstruitaj lingvoj kiel Esperanto, Ido, kaj Interlingua.Omna lingui kons= truktita es bonvenanta. Ne estas aparta temo por diskuto. Mi nur petas ke = oni provu esti kiel eble plej gentila kaj ke oni penu kompreni unu la alian= ." Chu ne estas charma? Kaj sen spamo. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoo= groups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3: > = > Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist? > Saluton al vi cxiuj. > Kiel sci= ite, antauxlonge la listo IALlist estas infektita de spamo, koruptita de me= sagxoj pri pornografio aux pri ies ricxa nekonata onklo kiu mortis en Ugand= ujo, kaj tiel plu. Cxar, evidente, neniu kontrolas teknike la liston, evita= nte tiun spamadon. > Mi, do, demandas: cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist= kie ne aperu spamo, sen ankaux kun neniu cenzuro de ideoj, jen rekta jen r= uza kaj nerekta? Ekzemple, la malpermeso de sendi mesagxojn plurliste, ecx = se evidente tauxgaj al la celata cxefa listo, estas ruza formo de cenzuro d= e ideoj, kiun mi ne akceptas nek akceptos. > Evidente, mi mem povas facile= krei novan version de IALlist, nun sen spamo. Sed se tia listo jam ekzista= s, pli facila tasko por mi estus aligxi. Mi nuancas ke mi deziras liston, f= orumon, aux tiel plu, kie la materialoj estu facile konsulteblaj kaj kopieb= laj sen bezono de kontinua interneta sxaltado; mi ne povas nek deziras vivi= gluita al komputero! > Por tiuj kiuj ne konas la liston IALlist, jen la r= etadreso: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iallist/. > Kaj jen gxia priskribo= : IALlist estas listo kiu diskutas la staton de la esplorado pri helpoplanl= ingvoj, kiel Occidental, Esperanto, Acadon, Lojban, Ido, Interlingua kaj al= iaj. Gxi estas pensita por oferi liberan intersxangxejon de ideoj kaj kompa= ron de datumoj, sen personaj atakoj kaj sen bandaj koterioj. > Amike, el A= leksandro Ksavero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika posxto trigrupo@... (trigru= po arobo yahoo punto es). > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7580 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17688 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2011 17:13:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2011 17:13:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2011 17:13:20 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 17:08:35 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2011 17:08:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:08:33 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #27 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=MXB0P932pOwesqDQrVjSLvIvdDbsvjmLQ8jn-WsQOwk7fKVAFBBLwV4 X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Voluntez ankor-foye atencar nia frazo #27= , nun tradukita en la 13 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua,= Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, LFN, ARIEL, Eurikido, Mondl= ango/Ulango, Paqatyl, LdP, Populido. Esperanto: Ankorau la ezoko ne trovi= ghas sur la hoko. Ankorau la gajno ne estas en la mano. Ido: Ankore la luc= io ne esas sur la hoko. Ankore la fisho ne divenis disho. Ne ja la ganajo a= tingis la plajo. Interlingua: Ancora le pisce non es sur le hamo. Ancora l= e ganio non es in le mano. Occidental/Interlingue: Ancor ti lucio ne es su= r li croc. Novial: Ankore li fishe non ha deveni dishe. Non ja li ganatu = ha atene li manu. Idiom Neutral: Ankor luk no es su krok. LFN: Ancora la = lusio no es sur la onca. ARIEL: Ancora la pisco no es sur la hamo. Ancora = la ganio no es en la mano. Eurikido: Stil isti albrikoko no trovaset in le= boko. Stil isti boni ezoko no koceset sur le foko. Stil isti beli fixo no = poneset ain le dixo. Stil isti toti kaxo no trovaset in le taxo. Mondlango= /Ulango: Ankore la fixo ne esan sur la huko. Paqatyl: Aun na ykanlufnartol= ykanavn neh enker. Aun yskmonet ykan neh fylenker. Aly le otsyravnlemp sup= hensmon neh naperker. LdP: Haishi fish bu es in dish. Kalamar es haishi in= mar. Gansa haishi fai dansa. Populido: Ankor ti ezok no ese sur hok. Anko= r ti fish no divenab dish. No ja le ganaj atingab le plaj. Se posibla, vo= luntez tradukar nia frazo #27, sive per un sive per plura versioni sam-senc= a, aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Latino sine Flexione, Volap=FCk, Glosa, Neo= , od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. Vi omna standez bone= ! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7581 Return-Path: X-Sender: tiberiorevas@... 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X-Received: (qmail 9748 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2011 00:24:58 -0000 X-Received: from Alexandre.local.lan (trigrupo@79.152.59.39 with plain) by smtp125.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2011 00:24:57 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: E54yvcSswBCjl3sQ2d64ONs5Xpwh X-YMail-OSG: 7pJ2zGUVM1lw_zF3VskoYIV4LeZ3nwOKhfyQpn_aHjyIvph N6vCc1DGr4C6IeYxe0DvCIWlwgVQLrFw4YsXcO.u6iau6OwdFAOvx_eVsstb AZl_20ra1kmYBTbJzweBmkT6ll1t0fxaIc1cVCSQtQ8AIstpr7abPIgh8Pj1 LLkRLOCEkE_Zf4S9_nYPwcIswD42If8sP5dONXvfEr8MakJgEZayIm9tWK8L OHfSjItbmFzHdXrUw7kxcGfsfbBc4tF18haOcUcFdh5DUvL7EsrcR1uPmj30 6F0qNUh4QU8pB X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:24:54 +0100 Organization: Pensador independente X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1469688545.20110225012454@...> To: Adonis Saliba , posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, , , , In-Reply-To: References: <125394132.20110224164859@...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------1E10D17B227D3CD6" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Reply-To: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Subject: Re: Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=pVhOalKoGEtHdRLJhLkZ-CN0OV9wBsVRtkXt0rQs_SXSguU X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------1E10D17B227D3CD6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saluton, Adonis. Oni jam duonparolas (sxerce) pri malgranda Ibera Skolo d= e Ido-Esperanto, kies membroj periode sxancelas inter Esperanto kaj Ido, au= x simple kabeas. La membroj de la "skolo" estus Fernando Tej=C3=B3n (hispan= a), Jorge Camacho (hispana), Gon=C3=A7alo Neves (portugala) kaj mi mem (ofi= ciale hispana, fakte ne hispana sed galega!). Se la kamarado Partaka (cxu h= ispana? cxu landojkatalunaja?) iam verkos per Esperanto (li jam teknike kap= ablas) tiu elstara idisto volenevole aligxos en la "skolon"... Mi devus, n= un, iel deteni min pri la sxerco. La vero estas ke mi ne povas nek rajtas p= aroli anstataux la aliaj, sed nur pri mi mem. Mi ne estas tipa reformisto = de Esperanto, nek konsideras ke la sciencoteknikaj difektoj de Esperanto au= x de la aliaj helpoplanlingvoj estus la cxefa problemo por ilia disvastigad= o. Sed, kiam mi diras ke mi ne estas tipa reformisto de Esperanto, jen grav= a nuanco: mi favoras klaran kaj definitivan semantikan distingon inter "Esp= eranto" (nur lingvo) kaj "Esperanto-movado" aux "esperantismo", kiel inter = "du samlingvanoj per Esperanto" kaj "du samideanoj", kiel inter "esperantop= arolanto" kaj "esperantisto" aux "Esperanto-movadano". Bona ekzemplo de la= problemo estas ke cia suba mesagxo konstante ambiguigas la parolon "Espera= nto", turnante gxin al la signifo "esperantismo". Ja jen honorigi jen malho= norigi Esperanton nur, estus jen honorigi jen malhonorigi... literojn, sono= jn, gramatikajn regulojn kaj tiel plu! Nur lingvomaniulo (ja la lingvomaniu= loj abundas cxe ni) tion farus. Sed, jes, eblas jen honorigi jen malhonorig= i ne la lingvon Esperanto, sed la esperantismon. Alidirite: fone, cxi tie,= mi ne parolas pri lingvistiko sed pri filozofio kaj antropologio. Ni parol= as, interalie, pri monoteismo kaj politeismo. Hodiaux, la monda kultura et= oso pelas nin pro esti jen monoteistoj jen ateistoj. Sed ni, la politeistoj= , konsideras kun Nicxo (Nietzsche) ke la esenco de la dieco estas ke ekzist= u multaj dioj, anstataux unusola Dio! La demokratio estas tipa kombinajxo p= olitika de monoteismo kaj ateismo; ekzistas legxo teorie unika por cxiuj (l= a politika unusola Dio) kaj cxe la demokratio oni neas teorie la ekziston d= e eternaj valoroj preter la volo de la plimulto (la politika foresto de dio= j aux de Dio). Mi estas politeisto kongrua, do maldemokrato. La esperantism= o estas gxisoste demokrata movado, do, kiel mi povus esti esperantisto? Na= ture, Adonis, ci povas argumenti ke se ni, la modernaj politeistoj, ne esta= s blufantoj nek frenezuloj, ion serioze ni devas proponi. Kaj ni proponas,= jes. Unue, ni diras ke la vocxo de la plimulto estas neniu vocxo de Dio, j= en, de la multaj dioj. La plimulto ne rajtas asfiksii la vivon de la malpli= multoj aux de la individuoj kun amaso da legxoj, advokatoj kaj impostoj. Ne= ekzistas libero sen la rajto, por la nigra sxafo, de abandoni la sxafaron = kaj ne plu beadi cxe gxi. La dioj ekzistas: ili estas baze la arketipoj de = boneco, vereco kaj beleco kiujn cxiuj homoj, almenaux la superaj homoj, la = bramanoj, povas realigi en siaj vivoj. Ja mi estas partiano de la hinda kas= tosistemo (varnasramao) bone komprenita. Sed vi, ho esperantistoj, diras p= alpebrumante: "Per Esperanto ni cxiuj estas egalaj, ni cxiuj de Dio aux de = unu granda homa familio estas filoj!". Kaj mi rifuzas: mi volas esti alia = ento; mi volas esti frato de la dioj, kaj finfine plia dio inter la aliaj d= ioj, nova Herkulo diigata pro miaj virtoj, se ilin mi disvolvas. La vojo es= tas malfermita al cxiuj, sed gxi ne estas vojo demokrata, ne estas vojo ega= leca; nur komprenos la malmultaj homoj kiuj volas supreniri al la sanktegaj= lokoj kaj tie adori la Olimpon. Helpoplalingve, mi, kiel politeisto, uzas= samtempe cxiujn euxroklonojn, inter ili Ido kaj Esperanto, kaj mi ne elekt= as monoteiste jen Esperanton jen Idon; kaj, kiel maldemokrato, mi rifuzas e= sti membro de partioj, sektoj, religioj aux lingvomovadoj. Se ne ekzistas d= eviga peranto inter Dio kaj la homo, kiel prave diras la islamanoj, malanka= ux ekzistas socia deviga peranto inter la eksperimentaj faktoj kaj la lingv= isto. Mi agnoskas mian kombinajxon de klasika taoismo aux bramanismo kun la= moderna pozitivismo sciencista. Nu: ci vidas ke cxi tiu mesagxo aperas pe= r ortodoksa Esperanto, sed ke gxi estas gxisfunde blasfema aux heterodoksa = pri la esperantismo, do pri cia kredo. Ja mi filozofas per Esperanto aux p= er Ido, sed, cxiel, kiam oni demandas al mi: cxu ci obeos la popolon kaj la= plimulton? mi tuj respondas: neniam! Tio dirite, Adonis, mi esperas ke ci= komprenu ke miaj disopiniadoj kun la esperantistoj ne estas gxuste priling= vaj, sed male antropologiaj, filozofiaj kaj religiaj. Almenaux cia nomo, A= doniso, estas nomo de klasika dio politeista; dio de la beleco. Tiel, iel c= i devus kompreni mian sintenon... Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanovo Do= mingo, elektronika posxto trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es)= . ----- Originala mesagxo ----- Fakte, Alexandre, tiu listo citata de v= i ne koncernas al Esperanto, esperantistoj kaj niaj normalaj interesoj. Ni = ne diskutas a=C5=AD volas diskuti projektojn de internaciaj lingvoj =C4=89i= tie, =C4=89ar ni jam pensas ke Esperanto, nia internacia lingvo, ne plu es= tas projekto sed tute kongrua al sia idealo kaj nature evoluanta lingvo. Nu= r diskutas la projekton de Esperanto, tiuj, kiuj volas modifi =C4=9Din a=C5= =AD iel malhonorigi Esperanton. Via disvastigata listo fakte estas listo = kreita por =C4=89iuj interesatoj en projektoj de planitaj lingvoj. Eble vi = a=C5=AD eble kelkaj =C4=89i tie povas helpi vin rilate al tiu listo kaj tie= s intereso. Tamen, mi petas ke vi detenu vin veni =C4=89i tie por propagand= i idon a=C5=AD simila=C4=B5ajn interesojn, =C4=89ar planitaj lingvoj a=C5= =AD planigado de lingvoj tute ne interesas nin! Mi mem scivole vizitis la= pa=C4=9Don de via diskutlisto kaj vidas ke preska=C5=AD neniu skribas tie = kaj preska=C5=AD nur vi lastatempe mesa=C4=9Dumas en ido (eble) kaj anka=C5= =AD la pornistoj kaj spamistoj en la anglaj. En =C4=9Di estas nur 144 enskr= ibitoj, =C4=9Di ne entenas pli 3500 mesa=C4=9Doj ekde 1999 kaj la intereso = pri la temo fakte velki=C4=9Dis jam delonge. Eble nur vi interesi=C4=9Das p= ri la temo. Gratulojn, vi povas konsideri vin unika=C4=B5o en reto hodia=C5= =AD. Pardonu la =C5=9Dercon! Mia sugesto estas ke vi mem kreu liston =C4= =89e Jahuo kaj invitu la homojn. Mi malfermos spacon por ke vi faru diskret= ajn alvokojn =C4=89i tie. Adonis Saliba =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Que tal aprender Es= peranto?... http://bit.ly/epmlibro ------------1E10D17B227D3CD6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist?

       Saluton, Adoni= s.

      &= nbsp;Oni jam duonparolas (sxerce) pri malgranda Ibera Skolo de Ido-Esperant= o, kies membroj periode sxancelas inter Esperanto kaj Ido, aux simple kabea= s. La membroj de la "skolo" estus Fernando Tej=C3=B3n (hispana), Jorge Cama= cho (hispana), Gon=C3=A7alo Neves (portugala) kaj mi mem (oficiale hispana,= fakte ne hispana sed galega!). Se la kamarado Partaka (cxu hispana? cxu la= ndojkatalunaja?) iam verkos per Esperanto (li jam teknike kapablas) tiu els= tara idisto volenevole aligxos en la "skolon"...

       Mi devus, nun, iel deten= i min pri la sxerco. La vero estas ke mi ne povas nek rajtas paroli anstata= ux la aliaj, sed nur pri mi mem.

       Mi ne estas tipa reformisto de Esperanto= , nek konsideras ke la sciencoteknikaj difektoj de Esperanto aux de la alia= j helpoplanlingvoj estus la cxefa problemo por ilia disvastigado. Sed, kiam= mi diras ke mi ne estas tipa reformisto de Esperanto, jen grava nuanco: mi= favoras klaran kaj definitivan semantikan distingon inter "Esperanto" (nur= lingvo) kaj "Esperanto-movado" aux "esperantismo", kiel inter "du samlingv= anoj per Esperanto" kaj "du samideanoj", kiel inter "esperantoparolanto" ka= j "esperantisto" aux "Esperanto-movadano".

       Bona ekzemplo de la problemo e= stas ke cia suba mesagxo konstante ambiguigas la parolon "Esperanto", turna= nte gxin al la signifo "esperantismo". Ja jen honorigi jen malhonorigi Espe= ranton nur, estus jen honorigi jen malhonorigi... literojn, sonojn, gramati= kajn regulojn kaj tiel plu! Nur lingvomaniulo (ja la lingvomaniuloj abundas= cxe ni) tion farus. Sed, jes, eblas jen honorigi jen malhonorigi ne la lin= gvon Esperanto, sed la esperantismon.

       Alidirite: fone, cxi tie, mi ne par= olas pri lingvistiko sed pri filozofio kaj antropologio. Ni parolas, intera= lie, pri monoteismo kaj politeismo.

       Hodiaux, la monda kultura etoso pelas= nin pro esti jen monoteistoj jen ateistoj. Sed ni, la politeistoj, konside= ras kun Nicxo (Nietzsche) ke la esenco de la dieco estas ke ekzistu multaj = dioj, anstataux unusola Dio! La demokratio estas tipa kombinajxo politika d= e monoteismo kaj ateismo; ekzistas legxo teorie unika por cxiuj (la politik= a unusola Dio) kaj cxe la demokratio oni neas teorie la ekziston de eternaj= valoroj preter la volo de la plimulto (la politika foresto de dioj aux de = Dio). Mi estas politeisto kongrua, do maldemokrato. La esperantismo estas g= xisoste demokrata movado, do, kiel mi povus esti esperantisto?

<= p class=3Drvps2>        Nature, Ad= onis, ci povas argumenti ke se ni, la modernaj politeistoj, ne estas blufan= toj nek frenezuloj, ion serioze ni devas proponi.

       Kaj ni proponas, jes. U= nue, ni diras ke la vocxo de la plimulto estas neniu vocxo de Dio, jen, de = la multaj dioj. La plimulto ne rajtas asfiksii la vivon de la malplimultoj = aux de la individuoj kun amaso da legxoj, advokatoj kaj impostoj. Ne ekzist= as libero sen la rajto, por la nigra sxafo, de abandoni la sxafaron kaj ne = plu beadi cxe gxi. La dioj ekzistas: ili estas baze la arketipoj de boneco,= vereco kaj beleco kiujn cxiuj homoj, almenaux la superaj homoj, la bramano= j, povas realigi en siaj vivoj. Ja mi estas partiano de la hinda kastosiste= mo (varnasramao) bone komprenita.

       Sed vi, ho esperantistoj, diras palpe= brumante: "Per Esperanto ni cxiuj estas egalaj, ni cxiuj de Dio aux de unu = granda homa familio estas filoj!".

       Kaj mi rifuzas: mi volas esti alia en= to; mi volas esti frato de la dioj, kaj finfine plia dio inter la aliaj dio= j, nova Herkulo diigata pro miaj virtoj, se ilin mi disvolvas. La vojo esta= s malfermita al cxiuj, sed gxi ne estas vojo demokrata, ne estas vojo egale= ca; nur komprenos la malmultaj homoj kiuj volas supreniri al la sanktegaj l= okoj kaj tie adori la Olimpon.

       Helpoplalingve, mi, kiel politeisto, uzas = samtempe cxiujn euxroklonojn, inter ili Ido kaj Esperanto, kaj mi ne elekta= s monoteiste jen Esperanton jen Idon; kaj, kiel maldemokrato, mi rifuzas es= ti membro de partioj, sektoj, religioj aux lingvomovadoj. Se ne ekzistas de= viga peranto inter Dio kaj la homo, kiel prave diras la islamanoj, malankau= x ekzistas socia deviga peranto inter la eksperimentaj faktoj kaj la lingvi= sto. Mi agnoskas mian kombinajxon de klasika taoismo aux bramanismo kun la = moderna pozitivismo sciencista.

       Nu: ci vidas ke cxi tiu mesagxo aperas pe= r ortodoksa Esperanto, sed ke gxi estas gxisfunde blasfema aux heterodoksa = pri la esperantismo, do pri cia kredo.

       Ja mi filozofas per Esperanto aux = per Ido, sed, cxiel, kiam oni demandas al mi: cxu ci obeos la popolon kaj l= a plimulton? mi tuj respondas: neniam!

       Tio dirite, Adonis, mi esperas ke = ci komprenu ke miaj disopiniadoj kun la esperantistoj ne estas gxuste prili= ngvaj, sed male antropologiaj, filozofiaj kaj religiaj.

       Almenaux cia nomo= , Adoniso, estas nomo de klasika dio politeista; dio de la beleco. Tiel, ie= l ci devus kompreni mian sintenon...

       Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanov= o Domingo, elektronika posxto trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto= es).


       ----- Origina= la mesagxo -----


       Fa= kte, Alexandre, tiu listo citata de vi ne koncernas al Esperanto, esperanti= stoj kaj niaj normalaj interesoj. Ni ne diskutas a=C5=AD volas diskuti proj= ektojn de internaciaj lingvoj =C4=89i tie, =C4=89ar ni jam pensas ke Espera= nto, nia internacia lingvo, ne plu estas projekto sed tute kongrua al sia i= dealo kaj nature evoluanta lingvo. Nur diskutas la projekton de Esperanto, = tiuj, kiuj volas modifi =C4=9Din a=C5=AD iel malhonorigi Esperanton. <= /span>

      &nbs= p;Via disvastigata listo fakte estas listo kreita por =C4=89iuj interesatoj= en projektoj de planitaj lingvoj. Eble vi a=C5=AD eble kelkaj =C4=89i tie = povas helpi vin rilate al tiu listo kaj ties intereso. Tamen, mi petas ke v= i detenu vin veni =C4=89i tie por propagandi idon a=C5=AD simila=C4=B5ajn i= nteresojn, =C4=89ar planitaj lingvoj a=C5=AD planigado de lingvoj tute ne i= nteresas nin! 

 = ;      Mi mem scivole vizitis la pa=C4=9Don de via diskutlis= to kaj vidas ke preska=C5=AD neniu skribas tie kaj preska=C5=AD nur vi last= atempe mesa=C4=9Dumas en ido (eble) kaj anka=C5=AD la pornistoj kaj spamist= oj en la anglaj. En =C4=9Di estas nur 144 enskribitoj, =C4=9Di ne entenas p= li 3500 mesa=C4=9Doj ekde 1999 kaj la intereso pri la temo fakte velki=C4= =9Dis jam delonge. Eble nur vi interesi=C4=9Das pri la temo. Gratulojn, vi = povas konsideri vin unika=C4=B5o en reto hodia=C5=AD. Pardonu la =C5=9Derco= n!

      &= nbsp;Mia sugesto estas ke vi mem kreu liston =C4=89e Jahuo kaj invitu la ho= mojn. Mi malfermos spacon por ke vi faru diskretajn alvokojn =C4=89i tie.

       = ;Adonis Saliba

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       Que tal aprender Esperanto?... http://bit.ly/epmlibro


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Dio di santa Romeo. DIO-PROVERBO / Februaro inter omna mo= nati esas la maxim kurta e la minim polita. ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-sig= no dil Fishi guvernata dal planeto Neptuno. VETERO / Grizeta cielo kun m= ilda temperaturo, cajorne, en Francilia. KONCIZE ALJERIA / NULA NOVA = PARTISO L'Aljeriana guvernerio ne previdas duminstante permisar la existo = di nova partisi politikal, deklaris hiere la ministro por Interna Aferi, = Dahou Ould Kablia. Demandi por konsento carelate depozesis che la lokala = administrerio. YEMEN / IMPERO POR PROTEKTAR LA MANIFESTANTI La Yemenana = prezidanto Ali Abdallah Saleh imperis a lua sekureso-trupi "protektar la = manifestanti". La represo di la popul-kontesto efektigis adminime 15 mort= inti, anuncis hiere l'oficala agenterio Saba. SIRIA / SUSPEKTI PRI NUKL= EALAJI Ocidentala informo-servi suspektas Siria konstruktir nukleala jacey= o sekreta, raportis hiere Germana jurnalo. La internaciona komunajo suspe= ktas ica lando developar reaktoro kun la helpo di Nord-Korea. GERMANIA = / TURKIA POSTULAS STATUO La Turka ministro pri Kulturo minacas interdikta= r la explorado da Germana arkeologiisti se Germania ne restitucas a Turki= a antiqua statuo de Sfinxo til venonta junio. La aludita statuo esas en = la Pergamon-muzeo en Berlin depos 1915. Un de la statui dil Pergamon= -muzeo en Berlin Sfinxo RUSIA / IMPORTANTA MILITISTAL PROGRAMO Ica lando= spensos 474 miliard euri enkadre di lua militistal programo til 2020, ol= qua previdas precipue la konstrukto di ok nukleala submara navi, la kompro= de plu kam 600 avioni e 1.000 helikopteri. Kordiala interretala saluti= ad omni. JM zxz:::zxz --0-1521793286-1298674509=:48767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Jean Martignon, che plura Ido-forumi)

 
=

Vene= rdie, ye la 25ma di februaro 2011.
 
Dio di santa Romeo.
 
3D"St_Bakhomious"
 
DIO-PROVERBO = / Februaro inter omna monati esas la maxim kurta e la minim polita.=
&nb= sp;
ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-signo dil = Fishi guvernata dal planeto Neptuno.
 
VETERO / Grizeta cielo kun milda temperaturo, cajorne, en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
ALJERIA / NULA NOVA PARTISO
L'Aljeria= na guvernerio ne previdas duminstante permisar la existo di nova partisi p= olitikal, deklaris hiere la ministro por Interna Aferi, Dahou Ould Kablia.= Demandi por konsento carelate depozesis che la lokala administrerio.
&= nbsp;
YEMEN / IMPERO POR PROTEKTAR LA MANIFESTANTI
La Yemenana prezidant= o Ali Abdallah Saleh imperis a lua sekureso-trupi "protektar la manifestan= ti". La represo di la popul-kontesto efektigis adminime 15 mortinti, anunc= is hiere l'oficala agenterio Saba.
 
SIRIA / SUSPEKTI PRI NUKLEALAJI=
Ocidentala informo-servi suspektas Siria konstruktir nukleala jacey= o sekreta, raportis hiere Germana jurnalo. La internaciona komunajo suspek= tas ica lando developar reaktoro kun la helpo di Nord-Korea.
=
 
GERMAN= IA / TURKIA POSTULAS STATUO
La Turka ministro pri Kulturo minacas in= terdiktar la explorado da Germana arkeologiisti se Germania ne restitucas = a Turkia antiqua statuo de Sfinxo  til venonta junio. La aludita stat= uo esas en la Pergamon-muzeo en Berlin depos 1915.
 
3D"Mus=C3=A9e
Un de la statui dil  =   Pergamon-muzeo en Berlin
Sfinxo
 
RUSIA / IMPORTANTA MILITISTAL PR= OGRAMO
Ica lando spensos 474 miliard euri enkadre di lua militistal p= rogramo til 2020, olqua previdas precipue la konstrukto di ok nukleala sub= mara navi, la kompro de plu kam 600 avioni e 1.000 helikopteri.
 <= /div>
Kordiala in= terretala saluti ad omni. JM zxz:::zxz
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Yen l'unesm= a programprojeto dil Europana Ido-renkontro inter la 17ma e 21ma di agosto = 2011 en Echternach (Luxemburgia) Merkurdio, la 17ma di agosto 2011 Esez bo= nvenanta en Echternach! La partoprenanti arivas en Echternach, recevas lia = chambro e plusa detali pri la renkontro. Fruarivanti komune povos vizitar l= 'urbo Echternach e promenar cirkum la lago. Vespere: agreabla kunsido. Jov= dio, la 18ma di agosto 2011 Vizito di la kastelo di Vianden. Vespere: labor= kunsido kun diskurso da Tiberio Madonna pri l'agado dil Linguala Komitato d= i ULI. Venerdio, la 19ma di agosto 2011 Vizito di Luxemburg, la chef-urbo = di Luxemburgia (eventuale inkluzite l=C2=B9institucuri dil Europana Uniono)= . Vespere: laborkunsido kun diskurso da d-ro Thomas Schmidt (viceprezidanto= dil Germana Ido-Societo) pri la temo "Quale difuzar Ido? Strategii por nia= movado" e posa posibleso diskutar pri ica temo. Saturdio, la 20ma di agos= to 2011 Totjorna exkurso a Trier (Germania). Pos komuna dejuno en la resto= rerio Domstein inter 14.00 e 16.00 kloko ibe eventos la yarchefkunveno dil = Germana Ido-Societo. La personi qui ne asistos la kunsido havas libera temp= o en la centro di Trier. Pos la yarchefkunveno duresos l'exkurso en Trier. = Ni erste retrovenos ad Echternach en la tarda vespero. Sundio, la 21ma di = agosto 2011 Departo Por samideani, qui ankore intencas plulongigar la sejor= no en Echternach esas aranjata promeno en la regiono di la "mikra Suisia Lu= xemburgiana. Danko pro via asisto! Til rivido en Echternach! Steve Walesc= h --0-1111472528-1298719525=:45541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Mesajo da Steve Walesch, che Idolisto)

 
=

Kara gesamideani!

Yen l'unesma programprojeto dil Europana Ido= -renkontro inter la 17ma e 21ma
di agosto 2011 en Echternach (Luxemburg= ia)

Merkurdio, la 17ma di agosto 2011
Esez bonvenanta en Echte= rnach! La partoprenanti arivas en Echternach,
recevas lia chambro e plu= sa detali pri la renkontro.
Fruarivanti komune povos vizitar l'urbo Ech= ternach e promenar cirkum la
lago.
Vespere: agreabla kunsido.
<= br> Jovdio, la 18ma di agosto 2011
Vizito di la kastelo di Vianden.
= Vespere: laborkunsido kun diskurso da Tiberio Madonna pri l'agado dil
= Linguala Komitato di ULI.

Venerdio, la 19ma di agosto 2011
Viz= ito di Luxemburg, la chef-urbo di Luxemburgia (eventuale inkluzite
l=C2= =B9institucuri dil Europana Uniono).
Vespere: laborkunsido kun diskurso= da d-ro Thomas Schmidt (viceprezidanto
dil Germana Ido-Societo)
pr= i la temo "Quale difuzar Ido? Strategii por nia movado" e posa posibleso diskutar pri ica temo.

Saturdio, la 20ma di agosto 2011
Totj= orna exkurso a Trier (Germania).
Pos komuna dejuno en la restorerio Do= mstein inter 14.00 e 16.00 kloko ibe
eventos la yarchefkunveno dil Germ= ana Ido-Societo.
La personi qui ne asistos la kunsido havas libera temp= o en la centro di
Trier.
Pos la yarchefkunveno duresos l'exkurso en= Trier. Ni erste retrovenos ad
Echternach en la tarda vespero.

= Sundio, la 21ma di agosto 2011
Departo
Por samideani, qui ankore i= ntencas plulongigar la sejorno en Echternach esas
aranjata
promeno = en la regiono di la "mikra Suisia Luxemburgiana.

Danko pro via asi= sto!

Til rivido en Echternach!
Steve Walesch

=
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Me nule 'dubtas', ke esas kelka mili de Es= pisti, mem nur en Internet, ma me komencas pensar, ke multi de li fatigeski= s, e ke li ne plus konsideras esar advere valoroza ed efikiva signatar tal = peticioni. Voluntez ipse konstatar la nuna stando dil peticiono "Esperant= o-parolantoj en la mondo", skopo: 2 milion. http://www.thepetitionsite.com= /1/esperanto-parolantoj-en-la-mondo/ Kurajo ed adavane, Espistaro! P A R= T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7596 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Posible ist es id=E9 stupid... Ist es eksperiment. Forumi pro Idiom = Neutral, Occidental/Interlingue e Novial no es mult aktiv. Forum unifiked p= ro omni tri: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/Neutral_Occidental_Novial Ro= sto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7597 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=hmQYWid_th4IbiPkSJqsdJMphz0zmSniGpdH3jCdPcWlJqG3XqxyG8o X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Salut, amikets! Nu, sembl a me ke me va deve pluklarige lo skribat da me po= r ke mei reakte aspekte kom no tant exterteran... Me ya save pro ko me poza= be mei manu sur mei kap: por protekte me dum preterpase le konstruktur. Ma,= pro ko, se me preterpas ol omni-diei, e me no mem pense protekte mei kap? = Yen: me pove nur konjekte ke, dum ke me klozab le pord de mei dom, posiblei= sen konsie, me audabere fal mikri fragments del vicin konstruktur, ko aver= tabere me, ke fragment plu gros e danjeroz povere fal sur mei kap, ko ya pr= esk eventab. (Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi"= skribab: Hodi posdimezei, jus pos ekirir mei dom, me no = save pro ko, me facab koz plenei no kustumal, presk absurdi: me kuik pozabe= mei manu sur mei kap, quazei hardi chapel, por protekt ol. E talei me mar= cheskab... Apen plur sekund plu tardei, brik-fragment, gros kualei pugne, f= alab den vicin konstruktur (kel on rikonstrukte nun), e violentei tervenab,= sen no mem rupte su, malgrei tre forti frap. Ti hardi fragment falab, exak= tei, dum ke me preterpasab le konstruktur, ed ol frapegab ye min kam un met= re ad-sinistrei de mei kap. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7598 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=8TnUBr1kngJgoAd2SeBFQI_re5W0X50lQ7iGCoceC7SW9VJH-B8PzcUcJA1t X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Barselona es un urbe misterioza. Qui kapabla komprender interrelato de brik= es e homes in ista urbe? Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "po= stamundi" escribi=F3: > > Salut, amikets! Nu, sembl a me k= e me va deve > pluklarige lo skribat da me por ke mei reakte > aspekte kom = no tant exterteran... Me ya save > pro ko me pozabe mei manu sur mei kap: p= or > protekte me dum preterpase le konstruktur. > Ma, pro ko, se me preterp= as ol omni-diei, e > me no mem pense protekte mei kap? Yen: me > pove nur k= onjekte ke, dum ke me klozab le pord > de mei dom, posiblei sen konsie, me = audabere > fal mikri fragments del vicin konstruktur, ko > avertabere me, k= e fragment plu gros e danjeroz > povere fal sur mei kap, ko ya presk eventa= b. > (Partaka) > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "postamundi"= skribab: > > Hodi posdimezei, jus pos ekirir mei dom, > me = no save pro ko, me facab koz plenei > no kustumal, presk absurdi: me kuik p= ozabe > mei manu sur mei kap, quazei hardi chapel, > por protekt ol. E tal= ei me marcheskab... > Apen plur sekund plu tardei, brik-fragment, > gros ku= alei pugne, falab den vicin konstruktur > (kel on rikonstrukte nun), e viol= entei tervenab, > sen no mem rupte su, malgrei tre forti frap. > Ti hardi f= ragment falab, exaktei, dum ke me > preterpasab le konstruktur, ed ol frape= gab > ye min kam un metre ad-sinistrei de mei kap. > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7599 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12266 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2011 16:30:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2011 16:30:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2011 16:30:23 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 16:30:23 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 16:30:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:30:21 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [MM] Kad absurd age? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=LEhMiQNRG8QB0J17FQ_Rf-hz_Gws8mpuo90EfDpYS9Wi7SUy5dQ_U60 X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Ka misterioz urbe, Barcelona? Ka stranj interrelat de briks e homs? Se Paul= "Koyoto" Mar=E9e, Paulo, esere ci kun nos omni, lu facilei konjektere pro= ko ti gros e hardi brik-fragment falabe den le konstruktur, precizei, du= m ke me preterpasab ol... ^ ^ Ka vus pove konjekte ko dicere Paulo? (Part= aka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Barselona es un urbe misterioza. Qui kapabla komprender interr= elato de brikes e homes in ista urbe? Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yah= oogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: Salut, amikets! Nu, s= embl a me ke me va deve pluklarige lo skribat da me por ke mei reakte aspek= te kom no tant exterteran... Me ya save pro ko me pozabe mei manu sur mei k= ap: por protekte me dum preterpase le konstruktur. Ma, pro ko, se me preter= pas ol omni-diei, e me no mem pense protekte mei kap? Yen: me pove nur konj= ekte ke, dum ke me klozab le pord de mei dom, posiblei sen konsie, me audab= ere fal mikri fragments del vicin konstruktur, ko avertabere me, ke fragmen= t plu gros e danjeroz povere fal sur mei kap, ko ya presk eventab. (Partaka= ) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" skri= bab: Hodi posdimezei, jus pos ekirir mei dom, me no save pro ko, me facab= koz plenei no kustumal, presk absurdi: me kuik pozabe mei manu sur mei kap= , quazei hardi chapel, por protekt ol. E talei me marcheskab... Apen plur = sekund plu tardei, brik-fragment, gros kualei pugne, falab den vicin konstr= uktur (kel on rikonstrukte nun), e violentei tervenab, sen no mem rupte su,= malgrei tre forti frap. Ti hardi fragment falab, exaktei, dum ke me preter= pasab le konstruktur, ed ol frapegab ye min kam un metre ad-sinistrei de me= i kap. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7600 Return-Path: X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25605 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2011 17:35:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2011 17:35:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n4-vm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (67.195.135.100) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2011 17:35:08 -0000 X-Received: from [67.195.134.49] by n4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 17:35:07 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by t2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 17:35:07 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 17:35:07 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:35:05 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "lingwadeplaneta" Subject: RE: [MM] Kad absurd age? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=VSxxmmtRjkxHTpwzxzHS1DVJU7wEJ0x1eAWj_h4NPxVqjYbBnJ4dW3I6 X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Koyves jen mog previdi lai-she eventa. Bu rarem eventi tak, ke me begin d= umi om koy konijen, go pyu blisem versu dom-telefon, e turan sey telefon be= gin baji yus a may fas. Me pren telefon-auder, ewalaa se es toy hi konijen!= Yedoh, sey kasu mog gei expliki via psikike konekta inter jen, "kolektive = psikika" (segun K.G.Yung). Bat komo hi expliki konekta inter yu e brik? Me = bu jan. Dimitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Salut, amikets! Nu, sembl a me ke me va deve > p= luklarige lo skribat da me por ke mei reakte > aspekte kom no tant exterter= an... Me ya save > pro ko me pozabe mei manu sur mei kap: por > protekte me= dum preterpase le konstruktur. > Ma, pro ko, se me preterpas ol omni-diei,= e > me no mem pense protekte mei kap? Yen: me > pove nur konjekte ke, dum = ke me klozab le pord > de mei dom, posiblei sen konsie, me audabere > fal m= ikri fragments del vicin konstruktur, ko > avertabere me, ke fragment plu g= ros e danjeroz > povere fal sur mei kap, ko ya presk eventab. > (Partaka) = > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "postamundi" s= kribab: > > Hodi posdimezei, jus pos ekirir mei dom, > me no save pro ko, = me facab koz plenei > no kustumal, presk absurdi: me kuik pozabe > mei manu= sur mei kap, quazei hardi chapel, > por protekt ol. E talei me marcheskab= ... > Apen plur sekund plu tardei, brik-fragment, > gros kualei pugne, fala= b den vicin konstruktur > (kel on rikonstrukte nun), e violentei tervenab, = > sen no mem rupte su, malgrei tre forti frap. > Ti hardi fragment falab, e= xaktei, dum ke me > preterpasab le konstruktur, ed ol frapegab > ye min kam= un metre ad-sinistrei de mei kap. > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7601 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63331 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2011 17:36:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2011 17:36:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2011 17:36:56 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 17:36:56 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 17:36:56 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:36:55 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Neutral_Occidental_Novial - forum nov X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=UWJipnCPm6ixax3NoKwuwfSELNkiym_YqcvHQ02CCtfRmFxLi5o57RY X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Amiko Rosto: Me darfas konjektar, ke l' forumi konsakrat al helpo-lingui, = quin tu mencionas, esas poke aktiva pro ke, dum ke existas sat multa homi, = qui preferas ed uzas nur Espo, nur Interlingua, o nur Ido, existas nula (o = preske nula) homi, qui preferas ed uzas nur Idiom Neutral, nur Occidental/I= nterlingue, o nur Novial. Do, ica LIA-sistemi uzesas, ma NUR anke, admaxime= . Yen pro quo kreesis la forumo posta_Mundi: pro ke omna helpo-lingui, ult= re disponar sua propra domo, povez anke disponar komuna korto, qua povas p= lufaciligar lia interrelato. Irgo skribita en Idiom Neutral, Occidental/In= terlingue o Novial, maxim evidente, interesas posta_Mundi, same kam irgo pu= blikigita en posta_Mundi per ta lingui, povus anke interesar lia rispektiva= forumi. Esas mesaji, qui bone povas publikigesar en amba loki, la propra = e la komuna, por ke oli difuzesez admaxime. Malgre omno, semblas a me nula= stupida ideo, se tu havas iluziono krear nova forumo por Idiom Neutral, Oc= cidental/Interlingue e Novial ensemble, e tu pasionoze laboras por ke ol ad= vere funcionez ed esez sucesoza. Forsan, NOV povas agar kom sorto di grava= e ne-kareebla koridoro, qua duktas ta lingui de lia rispektiva domi a nia = komuna korto, posta_Mundi. Adavane NOV, e maxim bona fortuno, Rosto! P = A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0= " skribis: Salut. Posible ist es id=E9 stupid...= Ist es eksperiment. Forumi pro Idiom Neutral, Occidental/Interlingue e Nov= ial no es mult aktiv. Forum unifiked pro omni tri: http://es.groups.yahoo.c= om/group/Neutral_Occidental_Novial Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7602 Return-Path: X-Sender: valodnieks@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45342 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2011 21:08:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Feb 2011 21:08:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2011 21:08:00 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 21:08:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2011 21:08:00 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:07:59 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "Thomas" Subject: RE: Neutral_Occidental_Novial - forum nov X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=341519187; y=aUKJfcTHMwIreOTW5cwn9QJbMhCvwCBXpACd9U59486_ygthtQ X-Yahoo-Profile: valodnieks Car Rosto! Yes, to es un tre stupid e absurd id=E9. Li gruppe de Occidenta= l-Interlingue es in differentie al gruppe de Novial tre activ. Solmen compa= ra li activit=E1s in li gruppes e li n=FAmere del membres. Li Occidental gr= uppe have mem plu membres quam Post Mundi! Occidental-Interlingue ancor ha= ve su micri movement con un organisation international (Interlingue Union) = e con su printat organ (Cosmoglotta). Occidental-Interlingue es un naturali= stic planlingue e li differentie a Novial e Idiom Neutral es tre grand. Ili= es plu simil a Ido, ma ne a Occidental-Interlingue! Novial e Idiom Neutra= l es longmen mort pro que lor creatores Jespersen e Rosenberger self abando= nat les e reformat les. It existe solmen tre micri movementes in li interne= t, queles usa li old ja abandonat formes de Novial e Idiom Neutral quam lud= e ma sin seriosi ambities. LI CENTRE DEL OCCIDENTALISTES ACTIV ES E VA RES= TAR CI: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/occidental/ Li Occidentalistes qui v= ole comunicar con li adherentes de altri planlingues posse usar li gruppe P= OSTA MUNDI. Yo va informar in POSTA MUNDI pri developationes interessant i= n li movement de Occidental. Pro to noi ne besona un nov gruppe. Amicalmen= Thomas --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > Salut. > Posible ist es id=E9 stupid... > Ist es ekspe= riment. > Forumi pro Idiom Neutral, Occidental/Interlingue e Novial no es m= ult aktiv. > Forum unifiked pro omni tri: > http://es.groups.yahoo.com/grou= p/Neutral_Occidental_Novial > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7603 Return-Path: X-Sender: rosa_pinyol@... 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Gratuli pro tua nova ret-situo pri Eurikido, e danko p= ro informar ni omna prie. Bone, ke tu prizentas omno ibe ne nur per tua = propra matro-linguo, nome la Italiana, ma anke per helpo-linguo internacion= a, ca-kaze Ido, por ke ni povez plu facile komprenar lo skribita pri Euriki= do. Do, ni ja havas nun omno pri tua LIA-sistemo, e che l' fako "Archivos"= (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, e che tua propra ret-situo konsakrat ad Eurikido.= Me ankor-foye dankas e gratulas tu, Tibu! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k = a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Tiberio" skribis: Keri foranos, jo abet le plejo de prizentare a vos l= e novi sito interretali cir le linguo Eurikido: http://sites.google.com/= site/eurikido/ Tandem nu lo est pronti! En isti sito on potet facilen k= onsultare le gramaro e le vokablario de le linguo. Frenden, Tiberio From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7606 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=H11-9G4y9TnfWrSiQ1TgtEuki3qyt3PmpPu1htek2t2-w6wRx47iGEs X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Tik-tak, Igor! Me ne oblivias Idiom Neutral ed olua jurnalo, VOK NEUTRAL,= qua ja prizentis sua sis unesma numeri... Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL,= nome la sepesma (ed unesma di 2011) esas pronta por edito e publikigo? To= n me deziras ed esperas, amiko. Maxim kordial saluto de Partakistan! P A= R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7608 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76037 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2011 17:35:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2011 17:35:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2011 17:35:38 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2011 17:35:38 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2011 17:35:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:35:35 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [NOVAJI] Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=T3qwh9Qkd6dP5OEHbAiB1hUcZkE0YvzAvQvOKPhQSDgkr0U9RFFZa4w X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Oke, amiketi! Nun, me devas pregar via indulgo, nam me asertis, ke l' #1 d= il jurnalo POSTA MUNDI disponas 19 pagini, ma me obliviis kontar olti prize= ntanta la kontenajo e la bela frontispico, do la jurnalo esas advere 21-pag= ina :-) Me profitas por dankar e gratular ti, qui (ultre la chefa redakter= o Rosto, e me ipsa) kunlaboris per sua texti en ta unesma numero di POSTA M= UNDI. Ni dankez e gratulez nia samforumani Rosto, Tiberio, Dimitri ed Ale= xandre! Til nexta komuniko! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * *= * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" skr= ibis: Bon jorno, Rosto! Me vidis, lektis e juis la #1 dil jurnalo POSTA = MUNDI, quan tu jentile kargis en la fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) dil forumo. = Semblas a me, ke ni devas gratular tu pro tua laboro e tre digna prizento d= i ta 19-pagina unesma numero dil jurnal. E sam-tempe, semblas a me, ke ni = devas gratular ni ipsa, posta_Mundi-ani, pro la rapida kreo, e sucesoza de= buto di nia "jurnal inter IAL", POSTA MUNDI. Maxim sincera gratuli, ed a= davane PM! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En pos= ta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: Es= timata posta_Mundi-ani: Yen ke jus kargesis nova dokumento che l' fako "= Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi. Dokumento: /posta_mundi_1.pdf Respon= santo: r0st0 Kontenajo: #1, februar 2011, del jurna= l POSTA MUNDI Voluntez vidar e juar tal dokumento per la yena ligilo: = http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/posta_mundi_1.pdf = Danko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7609 Return-Path: X-Sender: tiberiorevas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84987 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2011 17:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2011 17:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2011 17:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2011 17:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2011 17:54:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:54:15 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "Tiberio" Subject: RE: Novi sito cir Eurikido X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=427730795; y=DheAeVkhujNKCJg00l8yYxYRWxWdjoahRmIcueeSkuAL70hgmHnN X-Yahoo-Profile: lunizitarevo Danko, Partaka, pro tua gratuli e pro tua kurajigi en amba mesaji suba quin= tu sendis a me. Tu havas sempre bona e jentila vorti por la membri, quo e= sas tre importanta e laudinda pri jeranto di forumi. Kordial saluti! "Tib= u" :-) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" = skribis: > > Bon jorno, Tiberio! > > Gratuli pro tua nova ret-situo pri Eu= rikido, > e danko pro informar ni omna prie. > > Bone, ke tu prizentas om= no ibe ne nur per > tua propra matro-linguo, nome la Italiana, > ma anke p= er helpo-linguo internaciona, > ca-kaze Ido, por ke ni povez plu facile > k= omprenar lo skribita pri Eurikido. > > Do, ni ja havas nun omno pri tua LI= A-sistemo, > e che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, > e che tua = propra ret-situo konsakrat ad Eurikido. > > Me ankor-foye dankas e gratula= s tu, Tibu! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > = > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "Tiberio" skribis:= > > Keri foranos, > > jo abet le plejo de prizentare a vos le novi sito= > interretali cir le linguo Eurikido: > > http://sites.google.com/site/= eurikido/ > > Tandem nu lo est pronti! > > In isti sito on potet facile= n konsultare le gramaro e le vokablario de le linguo. > > Frenden, > > = Tiberio > --- Ed en posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: > > Ho, no, amiko Tiberio! > > Tua propra tradukuro = de LA ESPERO aden Ido > esis util a nia samforumano, Carlos-Andr=E9s, > al = forumo posta_Mundi, a tu ipsa, e forsan ol > esos utila mem al jurnalo POST= A MUNDI, ka ne? > > Tua laboro esis advere bona ed utila :-) > > Adavane= ! Sempre adavane, Tibu! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > > ---= En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "Tiberio" skribis: > >= Hoooo!!!! > > Me agis laboro neutila!!! > > :-( > > Amikale, > > T= iberio > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7610 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=kvk-OYifFOq4h31Tgy4iw93mphK8y7mGBoZOUyaoIyxF6nRZRjksKMw X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Hao, Dimitri! Ci-kazei, sembl a me, ke l' ver interkonekt esab no de me kun= brik, ma de me kun le hom, kel faligab le brik den vicin konstruktur, pre= cize, dum ke me preterpasab olci. Ho, ya! Le teorie da sioro Jung es bon, D= anke pro tui mesaj ed interes, Dimu! (Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoog= roups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" skribab: Koyves jen = mog previdi lai-she eventa. Bu rarem eventi tak, ke me begin dumi om koy ko= nijen, go pyu blisem versu dom-telefon, e turan sey telefon begin baji yus = a may fas. Me pren telefon-auder, ewalaa se es toy hi konijen! Yedoh, sey k= asu mog gei expliki via psikike konekta inter jen, "kolektive psikika" (seg= un K.G.Yung). Bat komo hi expliki konekta inter yu e brik? Me bu jan. Di= mitri --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" es= cribi=F3: Salut, amikets! Nu, sembl a me ke me va deve pluklarige lo skrib= at da me por ke mei reakte aspekte kom no tant exterteran... Me ya save pro= ko me pozabe mei manu sur mei kap: por protekte me dum preterpase le konst= ruktur. Ma, pro ko, se me preterpas ol omni-diei, e me no mem pense protekt= e mei kap? Yen: me pove nur konjekte ke, dum ke me klozab le pord de mei do= m, posiblei sen konsie, me audabere fal mikri fragments del vicin konstrukt= ur, ko avertabere me, ke fragment plu gros e danjeroz povere fal sur mei ka= p, ko ya presk eventab. (Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = "postamundi" skribab: Hodi posdimezei, jus pos ekirir mei = dom, me no save pro ko, me facab koz plenei no kustumal, presk absurdi: me = kuik pozabe mei manu sur mei kap, quazei hardi chapel, por protekt ol. E t= alei me marcheskab... Apen plur sekund plu tardei, brik-fragment, gros kual= ei pugne, falab den vicin konstruktur (kel on rikonstrukte nun), e violente= i tervenab, sen no mem rupte su, malgrei tre forti frap. Ti hardi fragment = falab, exaktei, dum ke me preterpasab le konstruktur, ed ol frapegab ye min= kam un metre ad-sinistrei de mei kap. (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7611 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=118768537; y=dNxi4n8f2dm6f4g0zDV1t8d0h6-bgbfasTVW9hxDi5N9B1IZ3g X-Yahoo-Profile: igor_selva --0-391555057-1298945154=:91688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara amiko Partaka, =C2=A0 Koran dankon por via memoro pri "Vok Neutral". K= omencigxis jam marto, do estas nature demandi, kia estas gxia stato. Tamen = mi devas respondi, ke gxi bedauxrinde ne aperas pro simpla kialo: al mi tut= e mankas tempo por prepari gxin. Hodiaux mi ricevis unu tradukitan versajx= on, sed tio estas cxio kaj mi sola simple ne havas tempon por prepari la tu= tan restantan enhavon. Antauxe ankaux okazadis malfacilajxoj, cxar mi kutim= e ricevadis nemultajn artikolojn kaj mi mem devis cerbumi, pri kio skribi, = por ke cxiuj restantaj pagxoj plenigxu. Sed mi volis fini bone la jaron 201= 0, do mi kompilis 6 numerojn. =C2=A0 Nu, estas iom domagxe, sed pri la bald= auxa sorto de Vok Neutral mi cxi-momente ne havas bonan ideon. 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X-Received: (qmail 95976 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2011 07:25:40 -0000 Message-ID: <74593.92528.qm@...> X-YMail-OSG: gW0qDSkVM1laBD5ie.9pzQpjWM8.E0WfOPmMBhB5INl9ysb gBFz8tcES.hZjrcZwNBwC.xpIYBNNX1srrpNyF8jk96drjZ57xsJrNI4IzBi KFU0dfVVxy51LbqybpH4R8Og2mRdR44Xaywgu.6sJwFKMtUf_P4IPyhI6rNi SaIznwB9eWPz4fzXdXcXPws4Sg6EGB9GsUgD0kjL_uw.Uwa43W1tCxszHue5 MVEB7wlkZ4zabbcJEHY3v.hJ_yzPCweM9pxmgx1vsAWHiJ.fRDgCWAJj_18z 8GOS9ENTKZL3WRb8Hlt5hD7Z45.fiv3SKyOY18dxwO5LxY8oVCzk- X-Received: from [109.125.93.204] by web26108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 07:25:39 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:25:39 +0000 (GMT) To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <717.91688.qm@...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-744126887-1298964339=:92528" From: Dorothea Winkelhofer Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=297638457; y=EksDOtGT4PviW6gHOkU46mmfEXjBD9Ir_RQv-CHJhc8G-zbRdCOy X-Yahoo-Profile: andoromeda83 --0-744126887-1298964339=:92528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kar Igor! Mi potes mitar a vo plu artikli. O mi potas et prendar su me red= aksion. Ma mi averio problemi ko formasion de teksti in manier in kel vo fa= si it . In ist kamp mi av nesesitet de sukurs. Posible noi potes fasiar lab= or yunkti pro salvar Vok Neutral. Ko saluti kordal Doro --- washirei schrieb am Di, 1.3.2011: Von: washirei Betreff: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL? An: posta_= Mundi@yahoogroups.com Datum: Dienstag, 1. M=C3=A4rz, 2011 03:05 Uhr = =C2=A0 Kara amiko Partaka, =C2=A0 Koran da= nkon por via memoro pri "Vok Neutral". Komencigxis jam marto, do estas natu= re demandi, kia estas gxia stato. Tamen mi devas respondi, ke gxi bedauxrin= de ne aperas pro simpla kialo: al mi tute mankas tempo por prepari gxin. H= odiaux mi ricevis unu tradukitan versajxon, sed tio estas cxio kaj mi sola = simple ne havas tempon por prepari la tutan restantan enhavon. Antauxe anka= ux okazadis malfacilajxoj, cxar mi kutime ricevadis nemultajn artikolojn ka= j mi mem devis cerbumi, pri kio skribi, por ke cxiuj restantaj pagxoj pleni= gxu. Sed mi volis fini bone la jaron 2010, do mi kompilis 6 numerojn. =C2= =A0 Nu, estas iom domagxe, sed pri la baldauxa sorto de Vok Neutral mi cxi= -momente ne havas bonan ideon. Tamen cxi-foje mi vidas bonan sxancon por la= multlingva revuo de diversaj IAL, pri kiu oni lastatempe skribas en posta_= Mundi. Tio estas tre bona ideo, kiun mi subtenas kaj mi volonte kontribuos = de tempo al tempo per iu artikolo al gxi. =C2=A0 Kore salutas =C2=A0 Igor = =C2=A0 --- On Tue, 3/1/11, qualevistandas wrote= : From: qualevistandas Subject: [posta_Mundi] K= a nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL? To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday= , March 1, 2011, 1:10 AM =C2=A0 Tik-tak, Igor! Me ne oblivias Idiom Ne= utral ed olua jurnalo, VOK NEUTRAL, qua ja prizentis sua sis unesma numeri= ... Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL, nome la sepesma (ed unesma di 2011) es= as pronta por edito e publikigo? Ton me deziras ed esperas, amiko. Maxim = kordial saluto de Partakistan! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * = --0-744126887-1298964339=:92528 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kara amiko Partaka,
 
Koran dankon por via memoro pri "Vok Neutral".
Komencigxis jam = marto, do estas nature demandi,
kia estas gxia stato. Tamen mi devas res= pondi,
ke gxi bedauxrinde ne aperas pro simpla kialo:
al mi tute mank= as tempo por prepari gxin.

Hodiaux mi ricevis unu tradukitan= versajxon,
sed tio estas cxio kaj mi sola simple ne havas
tempon por= prepari la tutan restantan enhavon.
Antauxe ankaux okazadis mal= facilajxoj, cxar mi kutime
ricevadis nemultajn artikolojn kaj mi mem dev= is cerbumi,
pri kio skribi, por ke cxiuj restantaj pagxoj plenigxu.
S= ed mi volis fini bone la jaron 2010, do mi kompilis
6 numerojn.
 
Nu, estas iom domagxe, sed pri la baldauxa sorto
d= e Vok Neutral mi cxi-momente ne havas bonan ideon.
Tamen cxi-foje mi vid= as bonan sxancon por la multlingva
revuo de diversaj IAL, pri kiu oni la= statempe
skribas en posta_Mundi. Tio estas tre bona ideo, kiun
mi sub= tenas kaj mi volonte kontribuos de tempo al tempo
per iu artikol= o al gxi.
 
Kore salutas
 
Igor
 


--- On Tue, 3/1/11, qua= levistandas wrote:

From: qualevistandas =
Subject: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL?
To: posta_Mund= i@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 1:10 AM

 
Tik-tak, Igor!

Me ne oblivias Idiom Neutra= l ed olua
jurnalo, VOK NEUTRAL, qua ja prizentis
sua sis unesma nume= ri...

Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL,
nome la sepesma (ed unesma = di 2011)
esas pronta por edito e publikigo?

Ton me deziras ed esp= eras, amiko.

Maxim kordial saluto de Partakistan!

P A R T A K= A
* * * * * * * * *

Kar Igor!

Mi potes mitar a vo plu arti= kli. O mi potas et prendar su me redaksion. Ma mi averio problemi ko formas= ion de teksti in manier in kel vo fasi it . In ist kamp mi av nesesitet de = sukurs. Posible noi potes fasiar labor yunkti pro salvar Vok Neutral.
Ko saluti kordal
Doro

--- washirei schrieb am Di, 1.3.2011:

= Von: washirei
Betreff: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka= nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL?
An: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
Datum: D= ienstag, 1. M=C3=A4rz, 2011 03:05 Uhr

=  

Kara amiko Partaka,
 
Koran dankon por via memoro pri "Vok Neutral".
Komencigxis jam marto, = do estas nature demandi,
kia estas gxia stato. Tamen mi devas respondi,<= br>ke gxi bedauxrinde ne aperas pro simpla kialo:
al mi tute mankas temp= o por prepari gxin.

Hodiaux mi ricevis unu tradukitan versaj= xon,
sed tio estas cxio kaj mi sola simple ne havas
tempon por prepar= i la tutan restantan enhavon.
Antauxe ankaux okazadis malfacilaj= xoj, cxar mi kutime
ricevadis nemultajn artikolojn kaj mi mem devis cerb= umi,
pri kio skribi, por ke cxiuj restantaj pagxoj plenigxu.
Sed mi v= olis fini bone la jaron 2010, do mi kompilis
6 numerojn.
&nbs= p;
Nu, estas iom domagxe, sed pri la baldauxa sorto
de Vok N= eutral mi cxi-momente ne havas bonan ideon.
Tamen cxi-foje mi vidas bona= n sxancon por la multlingva
revuo de diversaj IAL, pri kiu oni lastatemp= e
skribas en posta_Mundi. Tio estas tre bona ideo, kiun
mi subtenas k= aj mi volonte kontribuos de tempo al tempo
per iu artikolo al gx= i.
 
Kore salutas
 
= Igor
 


--- On Tue, 3/1/11, qualevista= ndas wrote:

From: qualevistand= as
Subject: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero= di VOK NEUTRAL?
To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March= 1, 2011, 1:10 AM

 
Tik-tak, Igor!

Me ne oblivias I= diom Neutral ed olua
jurnalo, VOK NEUTRAL, qua ja prizentis
sua sis = unesma numeri...

Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL,
nome la sepesma = (ed unesma di 2011)
esas pronta por edito e publikigo?

Ton me dez= iras ed esperas, amiko.

Maxim kordial saluto de Partakistan!

= P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * *

<= /td>

<= b>

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(Da Jean Martignon, che plura Ido-forumi)

 
=

Mard= ie, ye la 1ma di marto 2011.
 
Dio di santa Albinus.
 
=
 
DIO-CITAJO / Omnon vinkas amo. (Vergili= us)
=  
ZODIAKO / En la zodiako-= signo dil Fishi guvernata dal planeto Neptuno.
 
VETERO / Sunoza cielo kun kolda temperaturo, cajorne, = en Francilia.
 
KONCIZE
 
UNIONITA REJI= O / IL REVELAS SUA HOMEOSEXUALESO
La Angla internaciona "cricket"- p= leanto, Steven Davies, evo 25 yari, revelis sua homeosexualeso hiere lor i= nterviuvo che la DAILY TELEGRAPH. Ico eventas unesmafoye por famozulo di ca= sporto.
 
Steven Davies
 
GREKIA / FERMESO KO= NCERNE LA NELEGALA ENMIGRANTI
La Greka guvernerio iteris hiere lua re= fuzo agar "amasala regulozigi" opoze a la hungro-striko da 286 nelegala en= migranti qui cesis nutrar su depos plu kam un monato. 28 de li aceptesis en= hospitalo.
 
TURKIA / LA CHEFO DIL HAMAS-PARTISO EN ISTANBUL
L= a chefo dil islamisto movado Palestinana Hamas, Khaled Mechaal, vartesas p= or la funero di la islamista guidanto Turka Necmettin Erkaban, mentoro dil= nuna prezidanto Abdullah G=C3=BCl e di la Chefa ministro Recep Tayyip Erd= ogan. Ita funero previdesas por eventor morge en Istanbul.
 
=
CHINIA /= ADVOKO POR MANIFESTAR VENONTA-SUNDIE
Hiere, plusa advoko por "jasmi= no-asemblo" sendesis sur "Facebook", "Twitter" ed altra exterlandana reti. = Li advokas a plusa protesto-"marcho" venonta-sundie.
 
= Kordiala interretala s= aluti ad omni. JM :::-:::
<= /div>

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Se nos pove konkorde, ke ENIONI-lings on darfe ordine, den= olti plusi skemozi ad olti plu naturalatri, talei: Espo, Ido, Neutral, No= vial, Occidental, Interlingua... Kualei on ordinere ti lings duopei? Kad = Espo/Ido, Neutral/Novial, Occidental/Interlingua? E kualei on ordinere t= i lings triopei? Kad Espo/Ido/Neutral, Novial/Occidental/Interlingua? E nu= n, se vus devere selekte le kuar ling max intersimil ek ols: ko vus selekte= re? Kad Espo/Ido/Neutral/Novial? Kad Ido/Neutral/Novial/Occidental? Ka Neut= ral/Novial/Occidental/Interlingua? E finei, se vus devere selekte le kin E= NIONI-ling max intersimil: ko vus selektere? Kad Espo, Ido, Neutral, Novial= , Occidental? Kad Ido, Neutral, Novial, Occidental, Interlingua? Fortunoze= i, nos abe sis ENIONI-ling, plus multi ling ENIONI-simil od ENIONI-atri, = Pace che vus omni, posta_Mundi-ans! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * = * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7619 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55877 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2011 17:20:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Mar 2011 17:20:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2011 17:20:31 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2011 17:18:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2011 17:18:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:18:17 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] ENIONI - EINNOI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=2ckmvU06kImb7SCl7zpozgikOUk4soasV29M1Fstnijc42Tn20ImiJdHyfWw X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Hm... Lasta-tempim mi komensa pensar, que tal simplifiko del tema no es uti= la. On pova prender irga du o tri linguas ex ENIONI por komparar les, e ist= e esera interesant. E mem tale on pova krear plusi "kompromis-linguas". Mi= serchav elementes komuna por omna six linguas... Til nun mi trovav nur: du= prepoziciones - per, sub; tri sufixes - -an, -ism, -ist, forsan anque li d= eminuativ -et, quankam in Occidental e Interlingua it es skribat quam "-ett= "; nu, plusim es komuna radikes, ili anke no es tre multa - quale: admir-,= aer-, astr-, avar-, bon-, brav-, brun-... Forsan esera interesant facer li= liste kompleta del omna komuna radikes, quankam por qual skope? Mi have t= al imprese, que no existe un tal lingua ex ENIONI, quel es minim simil al a= ltra 5. To sembla a me, que diferencies have plu-min hazarda karaktero. Kat= a lingua have su parte de original trates. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yah= oogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Salut, kompans!= > > Se nos pove konkorde, ke ENIONI-lings > on darfe ordine, den olti plu= si skemozi > ad olti plu naturalatri, talei: Espo, Ido, > Neutral, Novial,= Occidental, Interlingua... > > Kualei on ordinere ti lings duopei? > Kad= Espo/Ido, > Neutral/Novial, > Occidental/Interlingua? > > E kualei on o= rdinere ti lings triopei? > Kad Espo/Ido/Neutral, > Novial/Occidental/Inter= lingua? > > E nun, se vus devere selekte le kuar ling > max intersimil ek = ols: ko vus selektere? > Kad Espo/Ido/Neutral/Novial? > Kad Ido/Neutral/Nov= ial/Occidental? > Ka Neutral/Novial/Occidental/Interlingua? > > E finei, s= e vus devere selekte le kin ENIONI-ling > max intersimil: ko vus selektere?= > Kad Espo, Ido, Neutral, Novial, Occidental? > Kad Ido, Neutral, Novial, = Occidental, Interlingua? > > Fortunozei, nos abe sis ENIONI-ling, > plus = multi ling ENIONI-simil od ENIONI-atri, > > Pace che vus omni, posta_Mundi= -ans! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7620 Return-Path: X-Sender: lenadi_moucina@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 83814 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2011 18:44:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Mar 2011 18:44:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2011 18:44:44 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2011 18:44:43 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2011 18:44:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:44:40 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "lenadi_moucina" Subject: Heredajo? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=287459349; y=mbLtg3tQj4hJLuTW99-kz2S3qopWi5jeK72o-1ihz0BRzlqHRZKdWzo X-Yahoo-Profile: lenadi_moucina Homatine, me havis la kuriozeso de komparar la vorti qui kontenas la digra= mo SH e olti qui kontenas CH. Me pensabis ke on povus trovar 20 0 30 pari s= amafona se on chanjos la Sh per CH. Me surprizesis multe kande me vidis ke = nur 7 pari de vorti samfona apareskas pos ta chanji! brocho e bro(s)cho bu= cho e bu(s)cho chako e (s)chako chamo e (s)chamo ficho e fi(s)cho marcho e = mar(s)cho Ne plus! Me facis la komparo per la vortaro Franca/Ido, do fors= an un o du vorti povus esar oblivita, ma probable ne plus. On vidas ke trov= ar vorti diferanta por supresar ta pari ne esabus tre desfacila. Exempli := brochar un libro povabus similesar a la Germana =B0r=E4umen, quale "reumar= " ; la bucho semblante la Italiana povabus esar "machelo" ; la shako povabu= s esar "cheso" quale la Angla ; la chamo povabus mem plu bone e plu klare n= omizesar "rupikapro", quale la oficala nomo ciencala ; la ficho povabus esa= r similante la Angla =B0sheet, do "chito" o forsan "chieto", od on povabus = deskovrar en altra lingui plu bona vorto ; la marsho povabus esar quale en = Nederlandana "sumpo" . Me ne serchis tre longatempe por trovar ta vorti. D= o on vidas ke selektar ambe CH e Sh esis tre superflua. Pro quo la pioneri= ne audacis eliminar un ek ta du digrami. Hodie ni esas irgatempe koaktata = de serchar en la dicionario la bona ortografio : serchar o sershar? aficho = o afisho? Me facas la hipotezi ke li, regretinde, ne audacis modifikar la h= eredajo di Esperanto, pri ta punto, o li tro regardis la Angla. 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98987 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2011 02:10:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2011 02:10:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web38202.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (209.191.124.145) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2011 02:10:08 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 11328 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2011 02:10:02 -0000 Message-ID: <335111.10374.qm@...> X-YMail-OSG: UIprEcsVM1m4VZuxeVOIptBVoSQIBBlieC6PB4puPF6bvBg iNp4Wd25az1._fzDQ.1fgl3et7dhVn17TEwFk.Z1GdvM2GmJOCUulmi570h7 0QfZ8wgCJILrIKZLDHd8N_mvcndPpuZfJLQe0SQyiD_Z_PyV_8JO2XFBbH7J 2J7Y.GQb0KRv64l.7NdCQ6DX32jlQhB6li5Mdq_seA0XRdrfp9hJP2UTo333 0.9XNw.ReukIm.7zd616Cv1YqDtBREYt669zRuxCoLF7zQ3IYVxHh.VCFpuV mlfTZA2p0iwXSbw1rXy2uhHPVtUWfxQEKsub7Bu.SAN2jeyCD9klCH6KyUkL bfXFk65F6CqM1NPd5hJaHhH2VqjuE4IKN85NCS4FQx.SdKeVOdYGEz1JCFCt wwB7GkmuUIow- X-Received: from [222.12.154.246] by web38202.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:10:01 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:10:01 -0800 (PST) To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <74593.92528.qm@...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-835195472-1299118201=:10374" From: washirei Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=118768537; y=Lf0T1ot2MHusL6Z8ui636MRYcVGE1QYPS0V2-fBdChcRZu7dWQ X-Yahoo-Profile: igor_selva --0-835195472-1299118201=:10374 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut Doro, =C2=A0 Mersiad pro votr desir sukursar. A publikar omni numr no= v vo deberio avar artikli sufisant e elkos poteserio esar problem, if vo n= o resiverio ili da otr personi. In tal kasu vo aut deberio skribar omnikos = u kuasi omnikos. Ye mi potes mitar=C2=A0vo basis grafikal de Vok Neutral in= dokument Word, vo poteserio adyunktar kelk artikli e posible numr integr e= serio kompletifiked. =C2=A0 Saluti, =C2=A0 Igor --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Doroth= ea Winkelhofer wrote: From: Dorothea Winkelhofer = Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NE= UTRAL? To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 4:25 P= M =C2=A0 Kar Igor! Mi potes mitar a vo plu artikli. O mi potas e= t prendar su me redaksion. Ma mi averio problemi ko formasion de teksti in = manier in kel vo fasi it . In ist kamp mi av nesesitet de sukurs. Posible n= oi potes fasiar labor yunkti pro salvar Vok Neutral. Ko saluti kordal Doro= --- washirei schrieb am Di, 1.3.2011: Von: washi= rei Betreff: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK= NEUTRAL? An: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Datum: Dienstag, 1. M=C3=A4rz, 20= 11 03:05 Uhr =C2=A0 Kara amiko Partaka, =C2=A0 Koran dankon por vi= a memoro pri "Vok Neutral". Komencigxis jam marto, do estas nature demandi,= kia estas gxia stato. Tamen mi devas respondi, ke gxi bedauxrinde ne apera= s pro simpla kialo: al mi tute mankas tempo por prepari gxin. Hodiaux mi r= icevis unu tradukitan versajxon, sed tio estas cxio kaj mi sola simple ne h= avas tempon por prepari la tutan restantan enhavon. Antauxe ankaux okazadis= malfacilajxoj, cxar mi kutime ricevadis nemultajn artikolojn kaj mi mem de= vis cerbumi, pri kio skribi, por ke cxiuj restantaj pagxoj plenigxu. Sed mi= volis fini bone la jaron 2010, do mi kompilis 6 numerojn. =C2=A0 Nu, estas= iom domagxe, sed pri la baldauxa sorto de Vok Neutral mi cxi-momente ne h= avas bonan ideon. Tamen cxi-foje mi vidas bonan sxancon por la multlingva r= evuo de diversaj IAL, pri kiu oni lastatempe skribas en posta_Mundi. Tio es= tas tre bona ideo, kiun mi subtenas kaj mi volonte kontribuos de tempo al t= empo per iu artikolo al gxi. =C2=A0 Kore salutas =C2=A0 Igor =C2=A0 --- = On Tue, 3/1/11, qualevistandas wrote: From: qua= levistandas Subject: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero= di VOK NEUTRAL? To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 1, 20= 11, 1:10 AM =C2=A0 Tik-tak, Igor! Me ne oblivias Idiom Neutral ed olua= jurnalo, VOK NEUTRAL, qua ja prizentis sua sis unesma numeri... Ka nova= numero di VOK NEUTRAL, nome la sepesma (ed unesma di 2011) esas pronta por= edito e publikigo? Ton me deziras ed esperas, amiko. Maxim kordial salut= o de Partakistan! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --0-835195472-1299118201=:10374 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Salut Doro,
 
Mersiad pro votr desir sukursar. A publikar omni numr nov
vo d= eberio avar artikli sufisant e elkos poteserio esar problem,
if = vo no resiverio ili da otr personi. In tal kasu vo aut deberio
s= kribar omnikos u kuasi omnikos. Ye mi potes mitar vo basis grafikalde Vok Neutral in dokument Word, vo poteserio adyunktar
kelk artikli e = posible numr integr eserio kompletifiked.
 
Salu= ti,
 
Igor

--- On Tue, 3/1/11, Dorothe= a Winkelhofer wrote:

From: Dorothea Winkelhofer
Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL?
To: po= sta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 4:25 PM

=
 
Kar Igor!

Mi potes mitar a v= o plu artikli. O mi potas et prendar su me redaksion. Ma mi averio problemi= ko formasion de teksti in manier in kel vo fasi it . In ist kamp mi av nes= esitet de sukurs. Posible noi potes fasiar labor yunkti pro salvar Vok Neut= ral.

Ko saluti kordal
Doro

--- washirei schrieb am Di, 1.3.2011:

Von: washirei
Betreff: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL?<= BR>An: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Dienstag, 1. M=C3=A4rz, 2011 0= 3:05 Uhr

  =
Kara amiko = Partaka,
 
Koran dankon por via memoro pri "Vok = Neutral".
Komencigxis jam marto, do estas nature demandi,
kia estas g= xia stato. Tamen mi devas respondi,
ke gxi bedauxrinde ne aperas pro sim= pla kialo:
al mi tute mankas tempo por prepari gxin.

Hodi= aux mi ricevis unu tradukitan versajxon,
sed tio estas cxio kaj mi sola = simple ne havas
tempon por prepari la tutan restantan enhavon.
Antauxe ankaux okazadis malfacilajxoj, cxar mi kutime
ricevadis nemult= ajn artikolojn kaj mi mem devis cerbumi,
pri kio skribi, por ke cxiuj re= stantaj pagxoj plenigxu.
Sed mi volis fini bone la jaron 2010, do mi kom= pilis
6 numerojn.
 
Nu, estas iom domagxe, se= d pri la baldauxa sorto
de Vok Neutral mi cxi-momente ne havas bonan id= eon.
Tamen cxi-foje mi vidas bonan sxancon por la multlingva
revuo de= diversaj IAL, pri kiu oni lastatempe
skribas en posta_Mundi. Tio estas = tre bona ideo, kiun
mi subtenas kaj mi volonte kontribuos de tempo al te= mpo
per iu artikolo al gxi.
 
Kore s= alutas
 
Igor
 

<= BR>--- On Tue, 3/1/11, qualevistandas = wrote:

From: qualevistandas
Subj= ect: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUTRAL?
To: posta_Mundi@yahoog= roups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 1:10 AM

 
Tik-tak= , Igor!

Me ne oblivias Idiom Neutral ed olua
jurnalo, VOK NEUTRA= L, qua ja prizentis
sua sis unesma numeri...

Ka nova numero di V= OK NEUTRAL,
nome la sepesma (ed unesma di 2011)
esas pronta por edito= e publikigo?

Ton me deziras ed esperas, amiko.

Maxim kordial= saluto de Partakistan!

P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * *

<= /DIV>


<= /DIV>

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Nun-tempe, nia grupo disponas 73 membri, ed ol recevabas entote plu kam= 7500 valida mesaji dum sua 5-yara vivo-tempo tilnuna. De hike, quale kust= umale, me deziras dankar e gratular nia tota membraro pro lua grava kunlabo= ro, qua posibligas la suceso dil forumo. Danko, gratuli ed adavane, posta_= Mundi-ani! Ni montrez quon ni facas e ni demonstrez qui ni esas! P A R T= A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7624 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=ZZGJHZRUVuvTYDO0HfMKz7un2mnXaRD2tgjNqd44E1JHm92rc7lqGYQ X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Bon jorno, Lenadi! Me ne savas exakte pro quo nia Ido-pioniri decidis uzar= amba digrafi, CH e SH, ma, semblas a me ke, maxim probable, to esus tote j= ustifikebla. Me ja dicis ula-foye, ke me ne nur aceptas la digrafi CH e SH= , ma ke me mem prizegas oli, quale me prizas, se necesa, la digrafo KH. Me= ne savas ka me bone komprenas tua intenco. Ka, segun tu, oportabus ne uzar= la digrafo SH, ma nur la digrafo CH, e pronuncar olca quale en la Franca, = to es quale SH Angla? Se yes, ni skribus "machino" e pronuncus "mashino", = e to ya reprezentus nula problemo. Tamen, ultre la sep paro de vorti, quin = tu citis (probable esas plusa de li), on mustabus chanjar altra vorti, qui = venas direte del Angla, por exemplo "shuo". Kad oportabus trasformar ol a "= chuo"? Kad uzar diferanta radiko? Kad agar tale o cale che omna Ido-vorti h= avanta la digrafo SH? Irga-kaze, kara Lenadi, ne tro suciez pri ta temo, = nam nek en Ido nek en irg-altra LIA-sistemi skribesis ja la lasta ed ultima= vorto, do omno esas ankore posibla. Maxim kordial saluto, amiko! * * * = * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups= .com, "lenadi_moucina" skribis: Homatine, me havis= la kuriozeso de komparar la vorti qui kontenas la digramo SH e olti qui ko= ntenas CH. Me pensabis ke on povus trovar 20 0 30 pari samafona se on chanj= os la Sh per CH. Me surprizesis multe kande me vidis ke nur 7 pari de vorti= samfona apareskas pos ta chanji! brocho e bro(s)cho bucho e bu(s)cho cha= ko e (s)chako chamo e (s)chamo ficho e fi(s)cho marcho e mar(s)cho Ne plu= s! Me facis la komparo per la vortaro Franca/Ido, do forsan un o du vorti = povus esar oblivita, ma probable ne plus. On vidas ke trovar vorti diferant= a por supresar ta pari ne esabus tre desfacila. Exempli : brochar un libro= povabus similesar a la Germana =B0r=E4umen, quale "reumar" ; la bucho semb= lante la Italiana povabus esar "machelo" ; la shako povabus esar "cheso" qu= ale la Angla ; la chamo povabus mem plu bone e plu klare nomizesar "rupikap= ro", quale la oficala nomo ciencala ; la ficho povabus esar similante la An= gla =B0sheet, do "chito" o forsan "chieto", od on povabus deskovrar en altr= a lingui plu bona vorto ; la marsho povabus esar quale en Nederlandana "sum= po" . Me ne serchis tre longatempe por trovar ta vorti. Do on vidas ke se= lektar ambe CH e Sh esis tre superflua. Pro quo la pioneri ne audacis elim= inar un ek ta du digrami. Hodie ni esas irgatempe koaktata de serchar en la= dicionario la bona ortografio : serchar o sershar? aficho o afisho? Me fac= as la hipotezi ke li, regretinde, ne audacis modifikar la heredajo di Esper= anto, pri ta punto, o li tro regardis la Angla. Lenadi From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7625 Return-Path: X-Sender: rosa_pinyol@... 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Rosa = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "quaalevistandas" e= scribi=F3: > > Karega posta_Mundi-ani: > > Hodie, la 3ma di marto 2011, ni= celebras > la 5ma aniversario dil forumo posta_Mundi, > qua naskis oficale= ye l' 3ma di marto 2006. > > Nun-tempe, nia grupo disponas 73 membri, > e= d ol recevabas entote plu kam 7500 valida > mesaji dum sua 5-yara vivo-temp= o tilnuna. > > De hike, quale kustumale, me deziras dankar > e gratular ni= a tota membraro pro lua grava > kunlaboro, qua posibligas la suceso dil for= umo. > > Danko, gratuli ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > > Ni montrez quon = ni facas e ni demonstrez qui ni esas! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * *= * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7626 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Karega posta_Mundi-ani:

Hodie, la 3ma di marto 2011, ni celeb= ras
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Danko, gratuli ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani!
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Ni montrez quon ni facas e ni demonstrez qui ni esas!

P A R = T A K A
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X-Received: (qmail 36976 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Mar 2011 00:26:40 -0000 Message-ID: <961339.34284.qm@...> X-YMail-OSG: rInm7McVM1mhODHkCC4loNcdwZi4XiUg3JPm_gdiBZU8Zr8 M6bWwBh.WfaojeuWXXPI_Rz6NvyJcJzu3yjO_CJVd4EAK2PfuD0Fnd8LvF3W 3VvM5yqzsxs279TKVsBpSoYRA_qFpih1z_c7sM4ydsIIZPsRZPD6_k7VlX2d V3azHwmCe8Rthq4z4G9IJbxFZinzO_Qf20ES9oFi_h6SBrH80qHhXNb.EeT9 tuHA.u2W9ZLwmpO8qpXf_PCQwcpjfJduSN5WFVMNkwAnnQu5gSOwW8AOHpNE oG6vymtvDO5sqSNwJNUo_QOAIsZCiRFlI X-Received: from [95.122.69.73] by web28215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 00:26:39 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:26:39 +0000 (GMT) To: IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com, posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-54237329-1299198399=:34284" From: Ila Mesajero Subject: Saudia Princo Pledas por Reformi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=bt0INz-k48BHrZeI6V0taEQPG49jn7sMMcVqsARZa2QSZMvb9CQe X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero --0-54237329-1299198399=:34284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Da Kiran Annavarapu, che Idolisto) La falo di la guverniestri di Egip= tia e Tunisia pos granda kontre-guverneriala manifesti ibe, e la sequanta = protesti di la populi di Aljeria, Bahrain, Jordania, Libia, Morocco e Yeme= n, genitabas diversa opinioni pri la radikala kauzi di la eventaji. Kelka = analizeri vidas la protesti kom naturala rezulti di la politiki di autokra= ta rejimi qui obliviis la bezono por fundamentala politikala reformi, dum = ke altri vidas li kom la ne-evitebla produktajo dil dizastro-minacant ekon= omial e social problemi qui afliktas la majoritato di la Araba populi, pre= cipue lia yuni. Irgakaze, ecepte ke multa Araba guvernerii adoptus fundame= ntale diferanta politikal sistemi di agado, lia nacioni multe probable exp= eriencos plusa politikala e civitanala desquieteso. La fakti esas ne-konte= stebla: La majoritato di la Araba populi evas min kam 25, e la sen-employe= so di yuna adulti en multa landi esas 20 procento o plusa. Chomeso di muli= eri, qui esas ekonomiale e sociale marjinaligita, esas mem plusa. La meza-= klasa civitani represesas da inflaro ekonomial, qua preske facas stabila v= ivo-stando ne-atingebla espero. La disto inter la havanti e ne-havanti aug= mentas. La bazala necesaji por vivo quale habiteyi, saneso, ed edukado ne = suficas por milioni. Pluse, l'Araba nacioni charjesas per politikal sistem= i ancien-moda e frajila. Lia guverniestri ligesas a sorto di guvernadi qui= divenabas ne-konvenanta e ne-efektigiva. Decidar irgo es ne-varieble limi= tizita a mikra cirkli, e la rezulti grandaparte intencita a servar specal = interesi. Politikala partopreno esas ofte ne-permisita, kurtigita, ed mani= pulita por certigar ke la dominaco di un-partiso politikal esas perpetua. = Quankam ta stando dil Arabi esas senkurajiganta, reformar ol es nek ne-pos= ibla nek tro tarda. Altra socii afliktita da simila maladi povabis risanes= kar. Ni povas sucesar nur kande ni apertos nia politikala sistemi a plusa = partoprenado, responsiveso, e la yurizado di mulieri e la yuni. La grava s= tandi di povreso, iliterateso, e sen employeso esas plene diskutenda. Inic= iaji recente anuncita en mea lando, Saudi Arabia, da la rejo Abdullah esas= pazo en la justa sinso, ma li esas nur la komenco di longa voyajo a plu m= ulta partopreno, specale da la yuna populo. La leciono recevenda de la af= eri en Tunisia, Egiptia ed altra subversi -- qui, esas importanta remarkar= , nule esis anmizita da kontre-USA-ala fervoro o da zelo di Islaman extrem= isti -- esas ke la Araba guvernerii ne plus povas ignorar la deziri di lia= populi, o supozar ke li restos stacionara e submisita. La quietigiva inst= rumenti di antea tempi, ne plus suficas kom substituco a signifikanta refo= rmi. Forta venti di chanji suflas tra nia regiono, ed esus foleso supozar = ke li balde desaparos. Por esar efikiva, irga reformajo, devas esar rezult= ajo di signifikanta inter-ago e dialogo inter diversa kompozanti di socio,= specale inter la guvernanti e la guvernati. Ol anke devas inkluzar la yun= a populi, qui en ita teknologiale avancita tempo diveneskas plu interplekt= ar kun lia kontre-parti en altra regioni di la mondo. Exkluzo ne plus fun= cionas. Ta exhorto esis fortege e ne-perturbita expresita da mea patro, la= princo Talal bin Abdulaziz, en recenta interviuvo che televiziono. Social= a e politikala chanjo esas nevarieble tumultoza, doloroza, e nepredicebla. = Ma la Araba mondo abundas de rekursi, naturala ed altri, qui superiras pet= rolo. Maxim importante, ol havas granda rezervajo di talento qua povas rek= rutesar por krear energioza social ed ekonomial ordino qua kapabligus la A= raba nacioni membreskar la rangi di nacioni qui dum kelka yardeki propulsi= s su fora de ne suficante developado, stagnado e povreso. Tamen lo es atin= gebla nur se la volunto a reformar es sen-vacilema, durema, e sincera. Al= waleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, nepoto dil fondinta rejo di modern= a Saudi Arabia, e la chefo di la Kingdom Holding Company e la Alwaleed bin = Talal Fonduri. (Tradukita da Kiran Annavarapu) --0-54237329-1299198399=:34284 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Da Kiran Annavarapu, che Idolisto)

 
<= p>La falo di la guverniestri di Egiptia e Tunisia pos granda kontre-guverne= riala manifesti ibe, e la sequanta protesti di la populi di Aljeria, Bahrai= n, Jordania, Libia, Morocco e Yemen, genitabas diversa opinioni pri la radi= kala kauzi di la eventaji. Kelka analizeri vidas la protesti kom naturala r= ezulti di la politiki di autokrata rejimi qui obliviis la bezono por fundam= entala politikala reformi, dum ke altri vidas li kom la ne-evitebla produkt= ajo dil dizastro-minacant ekonomial e social problemi qui afliktas la major= itato di la Araba populi, precipue lia yuni.

Irgakaze, ecepte ke m= ulta Araba guvernerii adoptus fundamentale diferanta politikal sistemi di a= gado, lia nacioni multe probable experiencos plusa politikala e civitanala = desquieteso. La fakti esas ne-kontestebla:

La majoritato di la Ara= ba populi evas min kam 25, e la sen-employeso di yuna adulti en multa landi= esas 20 procento o plusa. Chomeso di mulieri, qui esas ekonomiale e social= e marjinaligita, esas mem plusa. La meza-klasa civitani represesas da infla= ro ekonomial, qua preske facas stabila vivo-stando ne-atingebla espero. La = disto inter la havanti e ne-havanti augmentas. La bazala necesaji por vivo = quale habiteyi, saneso, ed edukado ne suficas por milioni.

Pluse, = l'Araba nacioni charjesas per politikal sistemi ancien-moda e frajila. Lia = guverniestri ligesas a sorto di guvernadi qui divenabas ne-konvenanta e ne-= efektigiva. Decidar irgo es ne-varieble limitizita a mikra cirkli, e la rez= ulti grandaparte intencita a servar specal interesi. Politikala partopreno = esas ofte ne-permisita, kurtigita, ed manipulita por certigar ke la dominac= o di un-partiso politikal esas perpetua.

Quankam ta stando dil Ara= bi esas senkurajiganta, reformar ol es nek ne-posibla nek tro tarda. Altra = socii afliktita da simila maladi povabis risaneskar. Ni povas sucesar nur k= ande ni apertos nia politikala sistemi a plusa partoprenado, responsiveso, = e la yurizado di mulieri e la yuni. La grava standi di povreso, iliterateso= , e sen employeso esas plene diskutenda. Iniciaji recente anuncita en mea l= ando, Saudi Arabia, da la rejo Abdullah esas pazo en la justa sinso, ma li = esas nur la komenco di longa voyajo a plu multa partopreno, specale da la y= una populo.

La leciono recevenda de la aferi en Tunisia, Egiptia e= d altra subversi -- qui, esas importanta remarkar, nule esis anmizita da ko= ntre-USA-ala fervoro o da zelo di Islaman extremisti -- esas ke la Araba gu= vernerii ne plus povas ignorar la deziri di lia populi, o supozar ke li res= tos stacionara e submisita. La quietigiva instrumenti di antea tempi, ne pl= us suficas kom substituco a signifikanta reformi. Forta venti di chanji suf= las tra nia regiono, ed esus foleso supozar ke li balde desaparos.

= Por esar efikiva, irga reformajo, devas esar rezultajo di signifikanta int= er-ago e dialogo inter diversa kompozanti di socio, specale inter la guvern= anti e la guvernati. Ol anke devas inkluzar la yuna populi, qui en ita tekn= ologiale avancita tempo diveneskas plu interplektar kun lia kontre-parti en= altra regioni di la mondo.

Exkluzo ne plus funcionas. Ta exhorto = esis fortege e ne-perturbita expresita da mea patro, la princo Talal bin Ab= dulaziz, en recenta interviuvo che televiziono.

Sociala e politika= la chanjo esas nevarieble tumultoza, doloroza, e nepredicebla. Ma la Araba = mondo abundas de rekursi, naturala ed altri, qui superiras petrolo. Maxim i= mportante, ol havas granda rezervajo di talento qua povas rekrutesar por kr= ear energioza social ed ekonomial ordino qua kapabligus la Araba nacioni me= mbreskar la rangi di nacioni qui dum kelka yardeki propulsis su fora de ne = suficante developado, stagnado e povreso. Tamen lo es atingebla nur se la v= olunto a reformar es sen-vacilema, durema, e sincera.

Alwaleed bin= Talal bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud,
nepoto dil fondinta rejo di moderna Saud= i Arabia,
e la chefo di la Kingdom Holding Company e la Alwaleed bin Ta= lal Fonduri.

(Tradukita da Kiran Annavarapu)


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Poss tu dir me a qual momente del film to appari ? Yo hav= li livre; yo poss verificar. A proposs : Bon 5esim anniversarie a Posta = Mundi ! Olivier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambahsa-Mundialect --- En p= osta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: >= > Ho! Esque es alquo nov? Ka vi videv filmo "Kode de Da Vinci"? Ibe rekte = es dicet, que signe ^ simboliza penis. > > Rosto. > > > > --- En posta_= Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > > > Bon j= orno, mondo! > > > > Ka vi ja saveskis prie, ed spektis la novaja > > unes= ma mikra filmo anmizita Esperantal, > > titulizita "Chapeloj"? > > > > De = hike, me volunte deziras rekomendar ol > > a vi omna, nam ol duras apen plu= kam paro > > de minuti e, i.a., en la parto final, vi povos > > juar la mu= ziko original, kreita dal amiko Tomaso > > (Thomas Alexander), ilqua, konje= kteble, anke > > pleas la gitaro e kantas la kansono ibe. > > > > Yen la l= igilo duktant aden la filmeto "Chapeloj": > > > > http://www.youtube.com/w= atch?v=3Dz-LeLbjOYE4 > > > > Paco che vi omna, kolegaro! > > > > > > * *= * * * * * * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7638 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64828 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2011 18:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2011 18:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2011 18:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Mar 2011 18:15:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Mar 2011 18:15:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 18:15:55 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: "Chapeloj" en Esperanto X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=tIZFJpuOd7VE_cljVO6xzpDqs8ZOcymk14qMrlGsgAMxLwrmqLLj8oImhbjA X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Salam, Oliver. Mi videv li filme un o du yares ante nun, e no memora li cer= ta momente. E mi no lektav li libre. Nu, ibe alqui, semble li femina, quel = de komense es li chefi persona, el rakonta, quo signifika li simbolo del sa= kral kupe de Graal. Que li sakral Graal es un femina (quel ili trova in li = fine del filme), e que li simbole del kupe signifika feminin organ, e li si= gne de it es quale litere v. E li signe ^ simboliza li maskulin organ, e es= dicet, que ista simbole es uzat sur milital uniforme por substrekar (subko= nsciim evidente) maskulineso de soldates. Tale freudisme hike rega :) Rost= o. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "cafaristeir" = escribi=F3: > > Sellamat Rosto ! > > Poss tu dir me a qual momente del fil= m to appari ? Yo hav li livre; yo poss verificar. > > A proposs : Bon 5es= im anniversarie a Posta Mundi ! > > Olivier > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki= /Sambahsa-Mundialect > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > > > Ho! Esque es alquo nov? Ka vi videv f= ilmo "Kode de Da Vinci"? Ibe rekte es dicet, que signe ^ simboliza penis. >= > > > Rosto. > > > > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "post= amundi" escribi=F3: > > > > > > Bon jorno, mondo! > > > > > = > Ka vi ja saveskis prie, ed spektis la novaja > > > unesma mikra filmo anm= izita Esperantal, > > > titulizita "Chapeloj"? > > > > > > De hike, me vol= unte deziras rekomendar ol > > > a vi omna, nam ol duras apen plu kam paro = > > > de minuti e, i.a., en la parto final, vi povos > > > juar la muziko o= riginal, kreita dal amiko Tomaso > > > (Thomas Alexander), ilqua, konjekteb= le, anke > > > pleas la gitaro e kantas la kansono ibe. > > > > > > Yen la= ligilo duktant aden la filmeto "Chapeloj": > > > > > > http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3Dz-LeLbjOYE4 > > > > > > Paco che vi omna, kolegaro! > > > = > > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > > p a r t a k a > > > * * * * * * * * > >= > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7639 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=SVSllGxxTsXERF_z-pqzkZGOVWtl-Qy0K8WRxGbm8pDOZks X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------CECF1001C1042DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saluton, Rosto. Mi iam estis membro de tiu listo. Pri gxia "cxarmeco" mi = sugestas simple ke ci demandu rekte al gxia listestro pri mi. Ne cxio, en l= a listoj, estas klarigita per la komenca priskribo... Amike, el Aleksandro= Ksavero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika posxto trigrupo@... (trigrupo a= robo yahoo punto es). Kara Aleksandro, kial ci ne shatas Bablo-n? htt= p://groups.google.com/group/bablo Yen, kio estas skrbita tie: "Tiu listo = estas por diskuti ion ajn en konstruitaj lingvoj kiel Esperanto, Ido, kaj I= nterlingua.Omna lingui konstruktita es bonvenanta. Ne estas aparta temo por= diskuto. Mi nur petas ke oni provu esti kiel eble plej gentila kaj ke oni = penu kompreni unu la alian." Chu ne estas charma? Kaj sen spamo. Rosto. = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3: > > Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist? > Saluton a= l vi cxiuj. > Kiel sciite, antauxlonge la listo IALlist estas infektita de = spamo, koruptita de mesagxoj pri pornografio aux pri ies ricxa nekonata onk= lo kiu mortis en Ugandujo, kaj tiel plu. Cxar, evidente, neniu kontrolas te= knike la liston, evitante tiun spamadon. > Mi, do, demandas: cxu ekzistas n= ova versio de IALlist kie ne aperu spamo, sen ankaux kun neniu cenzuro de i= deoj, jen rekta jen ruza kaj nerekta? Ekzemple, la malpermeso de sendi mesa= gxojn plurliste, ecx se evidente tauxgaj al la celata cxefa listo, estas ru= za formo de cenzuro de ideoj, kiun mi ne akceptas nek akceptos. > Evidente,= mi mem povas facile krei novan version de IALlist, nun sen spamo. Sed se t= ia listo jam ekzistas, pli facila tasko por mi estus aligxi. Mi nuancas ke = mi deziras liston, forumon, aux tiel plu, kie la materialoj estu facile kon= sulteblaj kaj kopieblaj sen bezono de kontinua interneta sxaltado; mi ne po= vas nek deziras vivi gluita al komputero! > Por tiuj kiuj ne konas la listo= n IALlist, jen la retadreso: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iallist/. > Kaj = jen gxia priskribo: IALlist estas listo kiu diskutas la staton de la esplor= ado pri helpoplanlingvoj, kiel Occidental, Esperanto, Acadon, Lojban, Ido, = Interlingua kaj aliaj. Gxi estas pensita por oferi liberan intersxangxejon = de ideoj kaj komparon de datumoj, sen personaj atakoj kaj sen bandaj koteri= oj. > Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanovo Domingo, elektronika posxto tri= grupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > -- Saludos, Alexandre= mailto:trigrupo@... ------------CECF1001C1042DC Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist?

    &n= bsp;  Saluton, Rosto.

   = ;    Mi iam estis membro de tiu listo. Pri gxia "cxarmeco" mi sug= estas simple ke ci demandu rekte al gxia listestro pri mi. Ne cxio, en la l= istoj, estas klarigita per la komenca priskribo...

       Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanov= o Domingo, elektronika posxto trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto= es).



  =

Kara Aleksandro, kial ci ne shatas Babl= o-n? 

http://groups.google.com/group/bablo=  

Yen, kio estas skrbita tie: =

"Tiu listo estas por diskuti ion ajn en= konstruitaj lingvoj kiel Esperanto, Ido, kaj Interlingua.Omna lingui konst= ruktita es bonvenanta. Ne estas aparta temo por diskuto. Mi nur petas ke on= i provu esti kiel eble plej gentila kaj ke oni penu kompreni unu la alian."=  

Chu ne estas charma? Kaj sen spam= o.


Rosto. 


--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3:

>

> = Cxu ekzistas nova versio de IALlist?

>= ; Saluton al vi cxiuj.

> Kiel sciite,= antauxlonge la listo IALlist estas infektita de spamo, koruptita de mesagx= oj pri pornografio aux pri ies ricxa nekonata onklo kiu mortis en Ugandujo,= kaj tiel plu. Cxar, evidente, neniu kontrolas teknike la liston, evitante = tiun spamadon.

> Mi, do, demandas: cx= u ekzistas nova versio de IALlist kie ne aperu spamo, sen ankaux kun neniu = cenzuro de ideoj, jen rekta jen ruza kaj nerekta? Ekzemple, la malpermeso d= e sendi mesagxojn plurliste, ecx se evidente tauxgaj al la celata cxefa lis= to, estas ruza formo de cenzuro de ideoj, kiun mi ne akceptas nek akceptos.=

> Evidente, mi mem povas facile krei= novan version de IALlist, nun sen spamo. Sed se tia listo jam ekzistas, pl= i facila tasko por mi estus aligxi. Mi nuancas ke mi deziras liston, forumo= n, aux tiel plu, kie la materialoj estu facile konsulteblaj kaj kopieblaj s= en bezono de kontinua interneta sxaltado; mi ne povas nek deziras vivi glui= ta al komputero!

> Por tiuj kiuj ne k= onas la liston IALlist, jen la retadreso: http://groups.yahoo.com/group= /iallist/.

> Kaj jen gxia priskribo: IAL= list estas listo kiu diskutas la staton de la esplorado pri helpoplanlingvo= j, kiel Occidental, Esperanto, Acadon, Lojban, Ido, Interlingua kaj aliaj. = Gxi estas pensita por oferi liberan intersxangxejon de ideoj kaj komparon d= e datumoj, sen personaj atakoj kaj sen bandaj koterioj.

> Amike, el Aleksandro Ksavero Kasanovo Domingo, elektro= nika posxto trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).

>


<= p>





-- 

Saludos,<= /span>

 Alexandre       &nb= sp;                    mailto:trigrupo@ya= hoo.es

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=297638457; y=FGtufeRWN1UrFNNmd6pQGfZU7SqyX7S3W7f-eeYJ0OkRGkR20F4L X-Yahoo-Profile: andoromeda83 Kar Igor! Mi et vis problem avar artikli sufisant. Regrete vo frekuente no= av interoged personi otr ke ili deb mitar artikli. Ordinare mi skrib artik= li pro mie blog, nature mi sitempe poteserio publikar ili in futur in Vok N= eutral. Mi prinsipike es parat redaktar Vok Neutral ko votr sukurs teknik= al. Leplu bon prosed eserio if noi yunkti redaktar Vok Neutral. Eske vo av = temp sufisant pro ist labor? Solvasion otr es ke mi sol redaktero gaset. In= tal kasu mi posible desiderio publikar it sol kuatrfoa anuike. Ma et in ta= l kasu Idiom Neutral poteserio retenar sie diurnal propr. E it es kos leplu= important konformu mie opinion. Ko saluti kordal Doro --- En posta_Mundi= @yahoogroups.com, washirei escribi=F3: > > Salut Doro, > = =A0 > Mersiad pro votr desir sukursar. A publikar omni numr nov > vo deber= io avar artikli sufisant e elkos poteserio esar problem, > if vo no resiver= io ili da otr personi. In tal kasu vo aut deberio > skribar omnikos u kuasi= omnikos. Ye mi potes mitar=A0vo basis grafikal > de Vok Neutral in dokumen= t Word, vo poteserio adyunktar > kelk artikli e posible numr integr eserio = kompletifiked. > =A0 > Saluti, > =A0 > Igor > > --- On Tue, 3/1/11, Doroth= ea Winkelhofer wrote: > > > From: Dorothea Winkelhofer= > Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Ka nova numero di VOK NEUT= RAL? > To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 4:25= PM > > > =A0 > > > > > > > > Kar Igor! > > Mi potes mitar a vo = plu artikli. O mi potas et prendar su me redaksion. Ma mi averio problemi k= o formasion de teksti in manier in kel vo fasi it . In ist kamp mi av neses= itet de sukurs. 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Me tre multe joyas, ke mea suba mesajo, skribita e p= ublikigita ye l' 27ma di februaro, provokabas forta reakto Esperantal en la= tota mondo, quale vi ipsa povas konstatar nun, per ankor-foye atencar la p= rezenta stando dil Espo-peticiono, ed specale lo eventinta prie de pos la 2= 7ma di februaro, maxim aparte dum la dii 3ma e 4ma di marto, provizore :-) = Ka tal fortega reakto pluduros tale? Kurajo ed adavane, Espistaro! P A= R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualev= istandas" skribis: Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: = Me sincere pensis, ke Esperanto atingos, balde e facile, 2000 signaturi di= l peticiono, ma nun semblas a me ke, mem se on duros prizentar ol dum la to= ta yaro 2011, on obtenos ne plu kam 2000 signaturi entote, vice 2 milion. = Me nule 'dubtas', ke esas kelka mili de Espisti, mem nur en Internet, ma m= e komencas pensar, ke multi de li fatigeskis, e ke li ne plus konsideras es= ar advere valoroza ed efikiva signatar tal peticioni. Voluntez ipse kons= tatar la nuna stando dil peticiono "Esperanto-parolantoj en la mondo", skop= o: 2 milion. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/esperanto-parolantoj-en-la-= mondo/ Kurajo ed adavane, Espistaro! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7643 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16829 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2011 06:58:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Mar 2011 06:58:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2011 06:58:19 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 06:58:19 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 06:58:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:58:19 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: ALOE - un abreviatura X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=FVXO5xE3IZ186oBLaCtsssVhODyk7wQA24hMBzzxc6vzx8UjGmyBgeBxfkxz X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Mi inventev un abreviatura: ALOE - Auxiliar Lingua Okcident-Europan. Forsan= ALOE es un analoge del termine "euroklon", forsan no, almene forsan on dar= fa dicer, que preske omna mesajes che posta_Mundi es in ALOE. O forsan sim= ple li plante aloe darfa eser quaze un talismane. Vide interlinguistes (kon= struktant un lingua) kun aloe: http://artinvestment.ru/content/download/new= s/20080505_3faf.jpg :) Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7644 Return-Path: X-Sender: cafaristeir@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47934 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2011 07:54:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Mar 2011 07:54:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2011 07:54:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 07:54:42 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 07:54:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 07:54:41 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "cafaristeir" Subject: RE: "Chapeloj" en Esperanto X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=311484367; y=xxIuce3igksEA_3L7cffDpuSXGw_5brMM89G6LZ-EOzmMCQuADA X-Yahoo-Profile: cafaristeir Sellamat Rosto ! Yo ha serchat in li tre long livre de D.Brown, e yo ha tr= ovat un alquant different interpretation. Ili ne es ^ e su contrariu, ma du= trianguls. Li unesim triangul hav su top directet up; it es li L=E0min, s= ymbol masculin. Li altru hav su top directet a bass; it es li Calice, symb= ol feminin. Li union de ambes crea li Stelle de David. Olivier http://s= ambahsa.pbworks.com/ --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > Salam, Oliver. > Mi videv li filme un o d= u yares ante nun, e no memora li certa momente. E mi no lektav li libre. > = Nu, ibe alqui, semble li femina, quel de komense es li chefi persona, el ra= konta, quo signifika li simbolo del sakral kupe de Graal. Que li sakral Gra= al es un femina (quel ili trova in li fine del filme), e que li simbole del= kupe signifika feminin organ, e li signe de it es quale litere v. E li sig= ne ^ simboliza li maskulin organ, e es dicet, que ista simbole es uzat sur = milital uniforme por substrekar (subkonsciim evidente) maskulineso de solda= tes. > Tale freudisme hike rega :) > > Rosto. > > > > > --- En posta_M= undi@yahoogroups.com, "cafaristeir" escribi=F3: > > > > Sell= amat Rosto ! > > > > Poss tu dir me a qual momente del film to appari ? Yo= hav li livre; yo poss verificar. > > > > A proposs : Bon 5esim anniversa= rie a Posta Mundi ! > > > > Olivier > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba= hsa-Mundialect > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > > > > > Ho! Esque es alquo nov? Ka vi videv= filmo "Kode de Da Vinci"? Ibe rekte es dicet, que signe ^ simboliza penis.= > > > > > > Rosto. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogro= ups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > > > > > > > Bon jorno, = mondo! > > > > > > > > Ka vi ja saveskis prie, ed spektis la novaja > > > = > unesma mikra filmo anmizita Esperantal, > > > > titulizita "Chapeloj"? > = > > > > > > > De hike, me volunte deziras rekomendar ol > > > > a vi omna,= nam ol duras apen plu kam paro > > > > de minuti e, i.a., en la parto fina= l, vi povos > > > > juar la muziko original, kreita dal amiko Tomaso > > > = > (Thomas Alexander), ilqua, konjekteble, anke > > > > pleas la gitaro e ka= ntas la kansono ibe. > > > > > > > > Yen la ligilo duktant aden la filmeto= "Chapeloj": > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dz-LeLbjOYE4 = > > > > > > > > Paco che vi omna, kolegaro! > > > > > > > > > > > > * * = * * * * * * > > > > p a r t a k a > > > > * * * * * * * * > > > > > > > > = > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7645 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66111 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2011 08:58:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Mar 2011 08:58:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2011 08:58:57 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 08:58:57 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2011 08:58:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 08:58:57 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: "Chapeloj" en Esperanto X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=dlzc5vde3Ov5dXWmWxNBF5D3OaGz-Zg_EL_uDYYIRH5w-evr5G96AtZFXQov X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Salam, Oliver. Mi no dubita koncernu li simbolika del triangules in li stel= e de David, ya iste es un koze suficim konosat, e mi no admira, que Dan Bro= wn skribav in su libre pri ti triangules. Ma koncernu v e ^... Mi nur pova = donar un referencie a un ret-pajine in Esperanto: http://eo.wikipedia.org/w= iki/The_Da_Vinci_Code_%28romano%29 (mi no vole dicer, que mi tre krede ye = to omna, ma, quale on dice, "quale komprav, tale venda") Rosto. --- En = posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "cafaristeir" escribi=F3: > = > Sellamat Rosto ! > > Yo ha serchat in li tre long livre de D.Brown, e yo= ha trovat un alquant different interpretation. Ili ne es ^ e su contrariu,= ma du trianguls. > Li unesim triangul hav su top directet up; it es li L= =E0min, symbol masculin. > Li altru hav su top directet a bass; it es li C= alice, symbol feminin. > > Li union de ambes crea li Stelle de David. > = > Olivier > http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/ > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogro= ups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > > > Salam, Oliver. = > > Mi videv li filme un o du yares ante nun, e no memora li certa momente.= E mi no lektav li libre. > > Nu, ibe alqui, semble li femina, quel de kome= nse es li chefi persona, el rakonta, quo signifika li simbolo del sakral ku= pe de Graal. Que li sakral Graal es un femina (quel ili trova in li fine de= l filme), e que li simbole del kupe signifika feminin organ, e li signe de = it es quale litere v. E li signe ^ simboliza li maskulin organ, e es dicet,= que ista simbole es uzat sur milital uniforme por substrekar (subkonsciim = evidente) maskulineso de soldates. > > Tale freudisme hike rega :) > > > >= Rosto. > > > > > > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "cafari= steir" escribi=F3: > > > > > > Sellamat Rosto ! > > > > > >= Poss tu dir me a qual momente del film to appari ? Yo hav li livre; yo pos= s verificar. > > > > > > A proposs : Bon 5esim anniversarie a Posta Mundi= ! > > > > > > Olivier > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambahsa-Mundial= ect > > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > > > > > > > Ho! Esque es alquo nov? Ka vi videv fi= lmo "Kode de Da Vinci"? Ibe rekte es dicet, que signe ^ simboliza penis. > = > > > > > > > Rosto. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi= @yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > > > > > > > > = > Bon jorno, mondo! > > > > > > > > > > Ka vi ja saveskis prie, ed spektis= la novaja > > > > > unesma mikra filmo anmizita Esperantal, > > > > > titu= lizita "Chapeloj"? > > > > > > > > > > De hike, me volunte deziras rekomen= dar ol > > > > > a vi omna, nam ol duras apen plu kam paro > > > > > de min= uti e, i.a., en la parto final, vi povos > > > > > juar la muziko original,= kreita dal amiko Tomaso > > > > > (Thomas Alexander), ilqua, konjekteble, = anke > > > > > pleas la gitaro e kantas la kansono ibe. > > > > > > > > > = > Yen la ligilo duktant aden la filmeto "Chapeloj": > > > > > > > > > > ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dz-LeLbjOYE4 > > > > > > > > > > Paco che vi= omna, kolegaro! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > > > >= p a r t a k a > > > > > * * * * * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7647 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Ka nos darfe send al redakterie de POSTA MUNDI nosi texte's ed = artikle's por le numer 2 del jurnal? Se ya, plez vizite le haney () por saveske ka le hanins facabe plus ove's ^ ^ (Yen du brove kel= atencige, no du penis) :-) Abe bon di, amik! * * * * * * * * p a r t a = k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7648 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Mi nun deve anunciar, que yes, POSTA MUNDI #2 esera editet in = li fine del ista monate, in li fine de mart. If vi vole publikar alquo in l= i jurnale, sende a enioni@... Mi prega sender ne tre tarde, nu, forsa= n til 20 de mart. Pro que noi esforcia prezentir posible plu kompleta kolek= cion de IALes, e if alquel linguas, precipue ex ENIONI, mankara, mi bezona = tempo por facer alquo, forsan skribar alquo ipsa o trovar alquo ancien. Qua= nkam if vi no pova sender til 20 de mart, sende posim, til 25. Partaka, mi = recivav tei letres. Iste omna es bona. Yen, noi ja have alquo por POSTA MUN= DI #2. Kara forumanes, skriba in li forum, quo vi pensa, quala li jurnal de= ve eser. Mi pensa koncernu li "Anteparol del redaktor" skribar it por #2 in= Esperanto, por #3 in Idiom Neutral, por #4 in Ido... Mi no vole trouzar ib= e kun su propri lingua. Rosto --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "pos= tamundi" escribi=F3: > > He, Rosto! > > Ka nos darfe send= al redakterie de POSTA MUNDI > nosi texte's ed artikle's por le numer 2 de= l jurnal? > Se ya, plez vizite le haney () > por saveske ka le = hanins facabe plus ove's ^ ^ > (Yen du brove kel atencige, no du penis) :-)= > > Abe bon di, amik! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * *= * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7649 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Me tre shame, pro ke me tro mult erorab en mei kurt mesaje skr= ibat per Populido. Me mustabe repet ol por chanje lo sekuanti: - "di" POSTA= MUNDI -> de POSTA MUNDI - "dil" jurnal -> del jurnal - "facab" plus -> fac= abe plus (por eufonie) - du "brove's" -> du brove E mem pos korektigir e re= petir mei mesaj, me kuik deskovrabe plus eror en mei Populido: - le "hanin= s" (proto-Populido) -> le hana's (Kad ul populidolog va trove mem plus eror= ?) :-) (Partaka) ~~~ Ka nos darfe send al redakterie de POSTA MUNDI nosi t= exte's ed artikle's por le numer 2 del jurnal? Se ya, plez vizite le haney = () por saveske ka le hana's facabe plus ove's ^ ^ (Yen du brove= kel atencige, no du penis) :-) Abe bon di, amik! ~~~ From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7650 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=F8YN2zVho7vm2R5xwC7CJFsV45WuN_dizOYo6MUvam9ni2A X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------6CC64316E5FD64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable saluto, pu isula rosto. mio ja lekturin anterioramente la dialogo inter i= sula edgardo dewalo ei isula oto yesperseno. ma la presentasiono kualo apar= an dentro la dokumento depositata fa tuo, esan plus klara ei komoda grafika= mente, donke mio relekturin la dialogo via la nova dokumento. mio, donke, = operan komo itos anbas. tuo parolan via tuas euroklonos preferatas, aki via= la idiomo neutrala, ei mio parolan via mias euroklonos preferatas, aki via= la ikuso. ei nosos interkonprenan. se las duas linguistos (linguologos) em= inentas diritin dialogar ansi, mio inoltre, eske non? ma mio ankora non re= spondin direktamente pe tua kuestiono: Kual es valor de Ikuso ekseptu ke it= no av ideologi? la respondasiono esan ke la ikuso tenan una duobla valoro= , kuja parto "negativa" esan ke eto non tenan ideologio ei kuja parto "posi= tiva" esan ke la unika afero inportanta dentro la ikuso esan la facileso de= uso aktiva ei pasiva fa las parolantos, kios esan judisos direktas sur la = kualeso ei efikeso de la linguo, diritundo modifikar la linguo direktamente= en kualkuna momento, sin mediasiono de akademikanos ou de komitatanos ling= uas. mio intencionan dicar ke la parto positiva inplikan la parto negativa= . se la ikuso tenun ideo interna ou ideologio, fatalamente la formo de la l= inguo esun una parto inplicita ou esplicita de la ideologio, komo nosos vis= ionan en la antika esperanto ou en la moderna lingwo de planeto. solamente = kuando (de modo reala, non meramente retorika) una helpoplanlinguo evitan t= enar ideologio inplicita ou esplicita, las parolantos tenon libereso reala = mater modifikar kontinuamente la linguo segon suas necesos realas de komuni= kasiono. eis una eksenplo. under, mio kopian la introduciono de la dialogo= via una formo simila ba la duobla orijino (en okcidentaliko ei en novialo)= ma kon ortografio konpletamente fonetika, kon una sola fonemo para kada le= tro. mio diritan eskribar anbas linguos, ou la idiomo neutra, ou la intalo,= de modo fonetika para non perdar perdar mia tenpo. la letro "c" esan senpr= e pronuncata komo la digrafo "ch" en angliko, espaniko ou ido. la acento ap= aran en la preultima vokalo de kada parolo, konsiderundo pe vokalos las let= ros "a e i o u"; ou en la unika vokalo, se la parolo tenan una sola vokalo.= la letro "h" non esan muta, sino fortamente aspirata. la letro "j" represe= ntan una sonoro palata forta ei zunbanta komo en la portugaliko, la francik= o, la rumaniko, la ido ou (tolerablamente) en la angliko. se alkuno protes= tan dicundo ke mio koruptan la okcidentaliko ou la novialo, mio respondon k= e, dentro las helpoplanlinguos, nosos non necesan idealismo ni falsa amikes= o (kon la tipa sekuelo de autoritarismo mater la idealismo ei la falsa amik= eso) sino autentika libereso lingua fa las parolantos. pe kuesto mesma mio= redicon via altra maniero: sinceramente, eske las parolantos de okcidental= iko ou novialo non konprenan kuesta mesajo via la novialokcidentaliko kun o= rtografio fonetika? ma la fakto esan ke ui, ke itos pe la mesajo konprenan = facilamente. se itos protestan, realamente itos protestan prokue itos desir= an esar menbros de la tribo tien las okcidentalikistos ou las novialistos, = ma mio solamente desiran komunikar internacionamente via la okcidentaliko o= u la novialo, sin novialismo ni okcidentalikismo. posiblamente mi atitudo = otur las helpoplanlinguos esan tre antipatika para la majoreso, ma non esa = una atitudo anbigua sino tre klara, ei vosos totas konprenan las motivos ko= munikativas inves kapricojas de mia atitudo. realamente, non eksistan front= ieros fiksas ei klaras inter las euroklonos, donke edificar artificamente f= rontieros para preservar la "autentikeso" de kada euroklono esan una trista= atitudo sektoja ei triboja, pe kualo mio refusan kategoriamente, prokue ku= eso blokan la komunikasiono facila internaciona. mio posiblan parolar plus = sonoramente, ma non plus klaramente... ei tuo diritan kuestionar: donke, p= u isula alexandro, eske komo tuo uson tua tenpo via kuestas euroklonos? ei= s mia respondasiono: mio filosofon sur ei kontra la demokrateso (demokratio= ). amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrup= o@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). --- novialokcidental kun orto= grafia fonetikal --- durant li fine de aprile e li komenso de maye mil no= vcent tridece cinkue (1935) li autore de okcidental edgar de val (Edgar de = Wahl) ha visitat li autore de novial oto yespersen (Otto Jespersen) in hels= inor (Helsing=F8r) , per un longi voyaje fro talin (Tallinn), urbe de eston= ia (Eesti) a helsinor, urbe de danmarka (Danmark), in li mar baltik; e li d= u ha konduktet un amikal diskusione pri li principies de un lingue internat= ional auksiliari, kel hir es eksposit in abreviat forme, in tal manere ke c= aki autore es representat kom parlant su propri lingue. ----- Novial orig= inal ----- Durant li fine de aprile e li comenso de maye 1935 li autore = de Occidental E. de Wahl ha visitat li autore de Novial Otto Jespersen in H= elsing=F8r, e li du ha conductet amical discusione pri li principes de inte= rnational auxiliari lingue, kel on ve lecte hir in abreviat forme, in tal m= anere ke chaki autore es representat com parlant sen propri lingue. -----= Occidental original ----- Durant li fine de april e li comensa de mai 19= 35 li autor de Occidental E. de Wahl ha visitat li autor de Novial Dr. Otto= Jespersen in Helsing=F8r, e li du ha fat un amical discussion pri li princ= ipies de un lingue international auxiliari, quel ci es exposit in abreviat = form, in tal maniere que chascun autor es representat quam parlant su propr= i lingue. ----- mesajos orijinas ----- Kar Alexandre e forumani otr! = Mi insharjav in arkivi de ist grup dokument "Discussion pri international l= ingue", diskusion amikal intr Edgar de Wahl e Otto Jespersen. http://es.g= roups.yahoo.com/group/Neutral_Occidental_Novial/files/DISCUSSION_PRI_INTERN= ATIONAL_LINGUE.pdf Et on potes lektar ist-kos in: http://interlanguages.n= et/OJEW.html Eske tu lektav ist-kos? If no, lekta. Imagina, ke tu parl ko= Edgar de Wahl e Otto Jespersen di Ikuso. Posible di INTAL ili parlerio. M= a no di Ikuso. Di Idiom Neutral ansian naiv ili subridav, ma avav respekt = a valor historiik. Kual es valor de Ikuso ekseptu ke it no av ideologi? R= osto. ------------6CC64316E5FD64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial?

       saluto, pu isula ros= to.

      =  mio ja lekturin anterioramente la dialogo inter isula edgardo dewalo = ei isula oto yesperseno. ma la presentasiono kualo aparan dentro la dokumen= to depositata fa tuo, esan plus klara ei komoda grafikamente, donke mio rel= ekturin la dialogo via la nova dokumento.

       mio, donke, operan komo itos an= bas. tuo parolan via tuas euroklonos preferatas, aki via la idiomo neutrala= , ei mio parolan via mias euroklonos preferatas, aki via la ikuso. ei nosos= interkonprenan. se las duas linguistos (linguologos) eminentas diritin dia= logar ansi, mio inoltre, eske non?

       ma mio ankora non respondin direktame= nte pe tua kuestiono: Kual es valor de Iku= so ekseptu ke it no av ideologi?

       la respondasiono esan ke la ikuso tenan = una duobla valoro, kuja parto "negativa" esan ke eto non tenan ideologio ei= kuja parto "positiva" esan ke la unika afero inportanta dentro la ikuso es= an la facileso de uso aktiva ei pasiva fa las parolantos, kios esan judisos= direktas sur la kualeso ei efikeso de la linguo, diritundo modifikar la li= nguo direktamente en kualkuna momento, sin mediasiono de akademikanos ou de= komitatanos linguas.

&nb= sp;      mio intencionan dicar ke la parto positiva inplikan= la parto negativa. se la ikuso tenun ideo interna ou ideologio, fatalament= e la formo de la linguo esun una parto inplicita ou esplicita de la ideolog= io, komo nosos visionan en la antika esperanto ou en la moderna lingwo de p= laneto. solamente kuando (de modo reala, non meramente retorika) una helpop= lanlinguo evitan tenar ideologio inplicita ou esplicita, las parolantos ten= on libereso reala mater modifikar kontinuamente la linguo segon suas neceso= s realas de komunikasiono.

       eis una eksenplo. under, mio kopian la introdu= ciono de la dialogo via una formo simila ba la duobla orijino (en okcidenta= liko ei en novialo) ma kon ortografio konpletamente fonetika, kon una sola = fonemo para kada letro. mio diritan eskribar anbas linguos, ou la idiomo ne= utra, ou la intalo, de modo fonetika para non perdar perdar mia tenpo. la l= etro "c" esan senpre pronuncata komo la digrafo "ch" en angliko, espaniko o= u ido. la acento aparan en la preultima vokalo de kada parolo, konsiderundo= pe vokalos las letros "a e i o u"; ou en la unika vokalo, se la parolo ten= an una sola vokalo. la letro "h" non esan muta, sino fortamente aspirata. l= a letro "j" representan una sonoro palata forta ei zunbanta komo en la port= ugaliko, la franciko, la rumaniko, la ido ou (tolerablamente) en la angliko= .

      &n= bsp;se alkuno protestan dicundo ke mio koruptan la okcidentaliko ou la novi= alo, mio respondon ke, dentro las helpoplanlinguos, nosos non necesan ideal= ismo ni falsa amikeso (kon la tipa sekuelo de autoritarismo mater la ideali= smo ei la falsa amikeso) sino autentika libereso lingua fa las parolantos.<= /span>

      &nbs= p;pe kuesto mesma mio redicon via altra maniero: sinceramente, eske las par= olantos de okcidentaliko ou novialo non konprenan kuesta mesajo via la novi= alokcidentaliko kun ortografio fonetika? ma la fakto esan ke ui, ke itos pe= la mesajo konprenan facilamente. se itos protestan, realamente itos protes= tan prokue itos desiran esar menbros de la tribo tien las okcidentalikistos= ou las novialistos, ma mio solamente desiran komunikar internacionamente v= ia la okcidentaliko ou la novialo, sin novialismo ni okcidentalikismo.

       po= siblamente mi atitudo otur las helpoplanlinguos esan tre antipatika para la= majoreso, ma non esa una atitudo anbigua sino tre klara, ei vosos totas ko= nprenan las motivos komunikativas inves kapricojas de mia atitudo. realamen= te, non eksistan frontieros fiksas ei klaras inter las euroklonos, donke ed= ificar artificamente frontieros para preservar la "autentikeso" de kada eur= oklono esan una trista atitudo sektoja ei triboja, pe kualo mio refusan kat= egoriamente, prokue kueso blokan la komunikasiono facila internaciona. mio = posiblan parolar plus sonoramente, ma non plus klaramente...

       ei tuo dirit= an kuestionar: donke, pu isula alexandro, eske komo tuo uson tua tenpo via = kuestas euroklonos?

 = ;      eis mia respondasiono: mio filosofon sur ei kontra la= demokrateso (demokratio).

       amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanov= o domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).=


       --- novialokcidental kun = ortografia fonetikal ---

<= br>

      =  durant li fine de aprile e li komenso de maye mil novcent tridece cin= kue (1935) li autore de okcidental edgar de val (Edgar de Wahl) ha visitat = li autore de novial oto yespersen (Otto Jespersen) in helsinor (Helsing=F8r= ) , per un longi voyaje fro talin (Tallinn), urbe de estonia (Eesti) a hels= inor, urbe de danmarka (Danmark), in li mar baltik; e li du ha konduktet un= amikal diskusione pri li principies de un lingue international auksiliari,= kel hir es eksposit in abreviat forme, in tal manere ke caki autore es rep= resentat kom parlant su propri lingue.


  =      ----- Novial original -----

 

       Durant li fine de aprile e li comenso de may= e 1935 li autore de Occidental E. de Wahl ha visitat li autore de Novial Ot= to Jespersen in Helsing=F8r, e li du ha conductet amical discusione pri li = principes de international auxiliari lingue, kel on ve lecte hir in abrevia= t forme, in tal manere ke chaki autore es representat com parlant sen propr= i lingue.


=

       ----- Occ= idental original -----

      &n= bsp;Durant li fine de april e li comensa de mai 1935 li autor de Occidental= E. de Wahl ha visitat li autor de Novial Dr. Otto Jespersen in Helsing=F8r= , e li du ha fat un amical discussion pri li principies de un lingue intern= ational auxiliari, quel ci es exposit in abreviat form, in tal maniere que = chascun autor es representat quam parlant su

propri lingue.


  &nb= sp;    ----- mesajos orijinas -----

<= span class=3Drvts32>

=        Kar Alexandre e forumani otr! 

<= p class=3Drvps2>        Mi insharj= av in arkivi de ist grup dokument "Discussion pri international lingue", di= skusion amikal intr Edgar de Wahl e Otto Jespersen. 

       http://es.groups.yahoo.com= /group/Neutral_Occidental_Novial/files/DISCUSSION_PRI_INTERNATIONAL_LINGUE.= pdf

      &nb= sp;Et on potes lektar ist-kos in:

       http://interlanguages.net/OJEW.html

       Eske tu= lektav ist-kos? If no, lekta.

       Imagina, ke tu parl ko Edgar de Wahl e Ott= o Jespersen di Ikuso.

&nb= sp;      Posible di INTAL ili parlerio. Ma no di Ikuso.

       Di= Idiom Neutral ansian naiv ili subridav, ma avav respekt a valor historiik.=

      &nb= sp;Kual es valor de Ikuso ekseptu ke it no av ideologi?

       Rosto.

=


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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41194 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2011 14:18:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2011 14:18:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2011 14:18:04 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2011 14:18:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2011 14:18:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:18:02 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <12610489951.20110305211929@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=GeTO9AFLyNUn8f6uLho8aVgoPPloYr6wUw1fymQyBnJdt4eJvJ04RQjZJK82 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kara Alexandre, mi aprecia to quo tu skriba. E tei "novialokcidental" es as= tonant, tre bon. Abandono de sektantismo e de psikologia tribal in interli= nguistika es bona afere. De altra latere, tal kozes existe in interlinguist= ika, quel es acceptat da certi grupe de homes, e tamen pro ta kozes ili cer= te no deveni alquel tribe o sekte. Exemplim, noi agnoska, que li internacio= nal alfabete es Latin. In gramatika noi uza un sistema, ube es adjektives, = adverbes, participies, sufixes, prefixes, prepoziciones, e kelka altri koze= s. Multa linguas sur Tera uza altra gramatik sistemas. In fonetika noi uza = akcente simpla, no tonika. Noi no uza longa e kurta vokales, e li sistema d= e vokales es a, e, o, u, i. Noi uza konsonantes sonora e ne sonora, quale b= -p, d-t, k-g, e noi no uza aspirant conssonantes quale bha, tha. (Forsan es= ud utila haver kompleta listo de tal kozes.) Mem if iste face de nos alquel= "tribe", iste ya es totim altra kazum. Iste no es quale "occidentalisme" o= "novialisme". Mi pensa, que noi deve serchar e augmentar quantum de kozes = komuna por certi grupe de IALes, e posible diminuar quantum de kozes difere= nt, o almene no multifikar existent diferencies. Exemplim, por expresar pro= nomine 1 singular in nominativ, noi have certi variantes: mi, me, io, yo. = If alqui uza in su IAL exemplim "ya" o "ay" por expresar ta pronomine, ist= e es polucione del sule, ube ALOE kreska, if vi komprende mei metafora. Tal= homes deve sentir respondeso, mi pensa. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7655 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Received: (qmail 79148 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2011 00:14:12 -0000 Message-ID: <484048.72831.qm@...> X-YMail-OSG: G.NDeDYVM1nhRw8He6GPO01ikLOPEFS6Suqff7QImqF_2G0 a8X2cZ3aQHoBTiwk9HedaDX75LlH8JvW0GrNtH6Yuep7jRGCAXtAUEnPfQxo ghkL6XZxfsOx9K6LqNLY1kkZJ6FRLO7.d.YKeTWHihttYzZPMBH58T2aHir5 3DlQfaSYspvDxJXtLh3vdy2g2O1PfuDNQpWCw6iWDq6N_h4D1vxD11cPlb52 4MsQzo9TnWUkNFPi82UEIsZHNhPjSVELfWj4nJwcbxP9OBRStB3LG2DbXB9S m6jEEf7v0GRKROdocpIA1 X-Received: from [95.122.69.62] by web28210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 00:14:12 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 00:14:12 +0000 (GMT) To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2073984123-1299456852=:72831" X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Ila Mesajero Subject: Kelka novajeti del duesma duimo di februaro 2011 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=mORXElghKb-AKDxUNvXp9GQucphFlGJAoJpJeTEz6p2WsMNHoL0W X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero --0-2073984123-1299456852=:72831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Da Gabriel Svoboda, che l' forumo Idolisto) Kar amiki, vi povas lekt= ar kelka novajeti fresha hike: http://linguoido.ning.com/profiles/blogs/201= 1-kelka-novajeti-del-duesma-1 Ed askoltar oli hike: http://www.box.net/sha= red/2v9i4do7ch Yen specimeno de nord-est-Europa e central Azia: - 26ma di = februaro 2011: La Parentaro Galla e la Partiso Laboral ganis e la Partiso = Republikana perdis l' elekto Irlandana. 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Kar amiki,

vi povas lektar kelka novajeti fresha hike:<= br> http://linguoido.ning.com= /profiles/blogs/2011-kelka-novajeti-del-duesma-1

Ed askoltar o= li hike:
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Yen= specimeno de nord-est-Europa e central Azia:
- 26ma di februaro 2011: = La Parentaro Galla e la Partiso Laboral ganis e la Partiso Republikana perd= is l' elekto Irlandana. La Partiso Republikana, guverninta til nun, tale pu= nisesis dal elektanti pro la krizo financal.

Kordiale
Gabriel = Svoboda


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=dKKnNiZ6pRq8jZYeQ4AfDpghUS9RxD53aSL3kxTVRFUAkxI X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------8C1E2A416082065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable salutos, pu isula rosto. dentro mia citasiono de tua mesajo, = mio eliminan ou esplikan tuas abreviaturos, usundo senpre las formos konple= tas. mio konsilan evitar las abreviaturos kuando kuesto esan posibla dentro= las mesajos via helpoplanlinguos, prokue la komodeso mater redaktar fa la = sendanto devan cedar ante la facileso mater konprenar desde la receptanto. = especialamente ono devan evitar la estilo de alkunas broxuros esperantistas= dove ono devan tenar memoro de elefanto para konocar la monto de abreviatu= ros esperantistas usatas ali, ei solamente ali (solamente inter esperantist= os). menan, mio iron ba la fondo de tua interesanta mesajo. l= a interlinguistiko, helpoplanlinguistiko ou helpoplanlinguologio esan una c= ienco eksperimenta, esan una aspekto teoria ei aplikata de la linguologio (= linguistiko) sur las linguos helpantas planatas. la kriterio suprema de kua= lkuna cienco eksperimenta esan la konkordanteso inter la hipoteso ou teorio= ei la fakto ou eksperimento. una rasgo de certa helpoplanlinguo posiblan e= sar teoriamente dificila, ma aceptabla kuando las parolantos, jeneralamente= , pe kuesta rasgo dominan bonamente; ou, inversamente, una rasgo teoriament= e desirabla devan esar refusata kuando las parolantos frakasan kontinuament= e malgre sua bona uso de altras aspektos mater la helpoplanlinguo konsidera= ta. kuando la helpoplanlinguologio pasin, en la komenco de la sekulo= duodecesma (20) de esar una arto personista fa alkunas dotatas poliglotos,= ba esar una cienco eksperimenta, una parto de la linguologio jenerala, ono= kostruin progresivamente una korpo de konocimento konfirmata fa las faktos= , una konocimento cienca eksperimenta ja non dependanta under las ilusionos= ou manios de alkuna poligloto ou grupo de poliglotos. kuesta rasgo = de la helpoplanlinguologio komo cienco eksperimenta sirvan para refutar la = konocata mito segon la kualo "las euroklonos ja estan superatas". la= s euroklonos, inoltre denominatas komo helpoplanlinguos europokcidenteskas = ou komo auksiliantas linguos okcidentas europeskas, non estan superatas; si= no ke, inversamente, itos esan la modelo klasika ei plenamente operativa oj= i para kualkuna helpoplanlinguo seriosa. eske por kualo? prokue las = interesatos pro linguos helpantas internacionas refusin las altras modelos = ei elektin la modelo euroklona. la roiko (tesa Ro), la volapuko, la usiko (= tesa Usik), la esataiko (tesa Esata) ei altras helpoplanlinguos kon vokabul= aro apriora, deformata ou internacionamente non rekonocabla eksistan, ui, m= a itos nunkua atraktan una maso estabila de parolantos. las volapukistos ab= andonin la volapuko kuando aparin linguos komo la esperanto ou la idiomo ne= utrala, kon una vokabularo kualo respektin seriosamente la lejislo mater la= minima esforco. la unika korpo de vokabularo konocata internacionam= ente oji esan la korpo formata fa las grandas linguos europokcidentas, fund= amentamente la portugaliko, la espaniko, la franciko ei la angliko. las alt= ras vokabularos tenan, komo maksimo, una anpla uso rejiona; la vokabularo e= slava ei la vokabularo arabislama esan duas bonas eksenplos de vokabularo a= nplamente usata dentro ekstensas rejionos, ma nunkua globamente. eksenplame= nte, la vokabularo eslava tenan una uso kuasi nula en isa afriko, ou la vok= abularo arabislama kuasi non esan usata en isa ameriko norda ei suda, ecete= ra. inversamente, una bona parto de la vokabularo europokcidenta esan usata= , por parolantos naskivas ou por parolantos sekondaras, en kualkuna loko de= la mondo. radikos semantikas komo "telefono, cokolato, interneto, demokrat= o" tenan pe uomos kios konocan pe itos, inkluso en isa cinijo, isa afganijo= , isa ugandijo, usa irianjayaijo ou isa paraguayijo. por kueso, la n= ukleo de la vokabularo devan esar europokcidenta. donke, la lejislo linguis= tika mater la minima esforco portan la restanta "paketo". se la vokabularo = esan europokcidenta, donke inoltre la fonetiko, la ortografio, la morfosint= akso, ecetera, devan esar europokcidenteskas. las evidentas absurdos ou dif= icilesos devan esar eliminatas, ui, ei una bona eksenplo esan la atributasi= ono de sekso gramatika ba las entos sin sekso reala, ma las rasgos europokc= identas konpatablas kon la facileso teoria ei praktika devan esar konservat= as; una tipa eksenplo esan la pluralo via la adiciono de la fonemo "s" ba l= a singularo. mio nuancon ke dentro las linguos europokcidentas la ac= ento esan jeneralamente tonika, komo en la rusiko, kualo esan una linguo es= lava. la acento esan sinpla, ui, ma esan predominantamente una acento tona = ou tonika, acento de intenseso, de tono ou toniko intensa (non de tono musi= ka plus ou minus akuta, ni de longeso vokala). la franciko esan una eksepsi= ono, kon acento fiksa dentro la ultima silabo, acento debila ei frekuentame= nte nasala ou de longa vokalo. la regulo fundamenta en las linguos europokc= identas, donke inoltre en las euroklonos, esan una acento tonika de intense= so en la preultima vokalo de las parolos polivokalas... ei sin nuanco seman= tika, sibian en espaniko ei en rusiko la acento parolata (ou grafika) disti= ngan parolos. donke, kuesta regulo inplikan ke, dentro las euroklonos, la a= cento nunkua distingun parolos ei ke non eksistun acento grafika, kuesa ace= nto grafika kualo aparan sistemamente en la espaniko ei eksepsionamente (pa= ra markar la acento pronuncata dentro parolos ignotas) en la rusiko. = ono frekuentamente distingan inter euroklonos regulistas komo la esperanto= , la ido, la ulango ou la linguo franka nova, ei euroklonos naturistas komo= la okcidentaliko, la novialo, la interlinguaiko ou la latino sin fleksiono= . la distingasiono eksistan, ui, ma eto esan una distingasiono plus de grad= o kuanto de esenco. primo, prokue kualkuna euroklono seriosa esan naturista= en sua vokabularo, inkluso la esperanto, ei pos prokue inoltre las euroklo= nos "naturistas" tenan rasgos sistemas de kostruasiono eskemista. la uso si= stema de prefiksos internacionas komo "retro" ou "aero" esan una bona eksen= plo de tala eskemismo. ono noten ke altras euroklonos komo la intalo ou la = atlango presentan rasgos intermedias, inter la estrema eskemismo de la euro= klono plus eskemista, la esperanto, ei la estrema naturismo de la euroklono= plus naturista, la interlinguaiko ibereska fa isula josuo lavino (tesula J= osu Lavin), la romaniko (tesa Romanica). las rasgos estremistas de l= a eskemismo ou de la naturismo esan tipamente refusatas, de modo progresivo= , por las parolantos. eksenplamente, una formo tanto opaka ei anbigua inter= nacionamente kuanto "mezbona" en la esperanto esan substituata jeneralament= e via la klara ei internaciona formo "mediokra". inversamente, una rasgo di= ficila ei estremamente naturista de la romaniko, la atributasiono de sekso = gramatika (jenero gramatika) ba las petros, las triangulos ou la cielo, esa= n lojikamente evitata por kuasi kualkuna altra euroklono; kuestas rasgos es= tremistas operan kontra la lejislo mater la minima esforco sin ofertar bene= ficos perceptablas ta la parolanto tipa de linguos helpantas planatas. = mio, oji, desiran esar praktika ei, donke, mio fagan kuestiono cienca ta= las parolantos ei eskribantos de euroklonos "naturistas". eske por kualo m= io devun aprendar la uso de la duobla "ss" en parolos komo "pressiono" ou d= e la "y" semivokala en parolos dove la pronuncasiono esan senpre plenamente= vokala, komo "systemo"? se mio usan formos de ortografio sinpla ei fonetik= a komo "presiono" ei "sistemo", mio senpre eson facilamente konprenata, don= ke las novialistos ei okcidentalikistos devun respondar ta mio sur sua uso = de las formos "systeme" ei "systema" kon "y" semivokala. ma itos non respon= dan... mio opinan ke las euroklonos devan esar jeneralamente eskemis= tas en ortografio, morfosintakso (formosintakso) ei konponasiono de vokabul= aro, ma aceptundo formos internacionas tre populas, inkluso se kuesas formo= s non esan regulas. la formo "dificila" esan plus dificilamente ou disfacil= amente memorabla kuanto la formo "disfacila", plus reguloja ei kualo evitan= la aprendasiono de una nova radiko semantika sinpla, ma prokue eto esan pl= enamente internaciona, kuesa formo "dificila" esan, en konkludasiono, la fo= rmo preferabla dentro las euroklonos. ono devan inoltre nuancar ke l= as rasgos de las euroklonos non esan una sinpla kalko ou kopio de las rasgo= s presentas dentro las grandas linguos europokcidentas. eksenplamente, la f= ranciko, la angliko ei la portugaliko ibera (la galegiko ou la brasiliko, s= imilas ba la portugaliko ibera, esan vokalamente plus sinplas) presentan nu= merojas vokalos nasalas, intermedias, debilas ou sinkopatas. ma las euroklo= nos non imitan kuesta vokalismo, preferundo la tipa pentavokalismo de la es= paniko, la euskiko (baskiko, vaskiko) ou la grekiko moderna. kuestas vokalo= s intermedias kausun grandas problemos de konprenasiono inter parolantos ko= n sistemos naskivas de vokalos tre diferantas mutuamente. eksenplamente, se= una parolanto naskiva de irlandiko parolun kon una parolanto naskiva de vi= etnamiko via una formo de ido ma kon vokalos guturalas ei intermedias inter= las cinkas vokalos klasikas "a e i o u", itos tenun seriosas dificilesos, = nuancundo ke en la irlandiko la longeso de las vokalos distingan signifos, = komo la alteso vokala de tono musika en la vietnamiko inoltre distingan sig= nifos. la kaosa, arkaika ei antifonetika ortografio de la franciko ei la an= gliko solamente esan imitata (ei non senpre) dentro alkunas euroklonos natu= ristas, predominundo una ortografio fonetika de alfabeto latina kon eskarsa= s signos diakritas, komo en la italiko, la indonesiko ou la swahiliko. la v= erbo "esar" esan tre antireguloja en las grandas linguos europokcidentas, m= a kuesta antireguleso estan tre limitata ou inkluso nulata dentro las eurok= lonos realas. las euroklonos estan plus proksimas ba las kreolos ou pijinos= de tipo neolatina, komo la haitiko, la papiamento ou la cabakano; kuestas = kreolos ou pijinos tenan una radika sinplasiono fonetika, ortografia, morfo= logia ei sintaksa; ei la vokabularo de kuestas euroklonos ou pijinos enkorp= an una granda proporciono de vokabularo prendata mater la angliko, la hindi= urduiko ei altras linguos kon uso komerca internaciona, donke non esundo ja= linguos de vokabularo meramente neolatina. la soluciono para kuesta= s problemos aparan, realamente, kuando las euroklonos esan usatas para prop= ositos praktikas, non komo ludo de poliglotos eruditas ei diletantas. = eksenplamente, kuando mio argumentan ei dialogan sur (frekuentamente, kon= tra) la demokrateso mio evitan, lojikamente, usar una vokabularo opaka inte= rnacionamente, ou konkugasionos verbas eksepsionas kualos konsumun superflu= amente pe mia tenpo redaktundo. inversamente, la preposiciono "pe" de akusa= tivo evitan la anbigueso en frasos longas, konplikatas ou kon hiperbatono. = ma las frasos tipas necesan ninkuna preposiciono ou sufikso de akusativo. = proksimamente mio aplikon kuestas principios, filosofundo kontra la d= emokrateso via euroklonos. eksenplamente, se alkuna parolanto de lin= gwodeplanetiko desiran realamente parolar kon mio sur la demokrateso (inves= parolar sur linguistiko) eto tipamente uson una vokabularo non puramente e= uropokcidenta, ma se eto desiran komunikar kon mio inves parolar ante una m= uro, eto tendencon ba usar formos tre internacionas (non senpre europokcide= ntas, evidentamente) inves una puzlo ou puslo de vokabularo politeritoria e= skarsamente operativa inkluso para una rekonocata poligloto komo mio. nosa = komunikasiono funcionon se eto esan una lingwodeplanetoparolanto inves una = tipa lingwodeplanetisto; se eto usan la lingwodeplanetiko komo una istrumen= to de komunikasiono inves komo una eskopo intrinseka. la verito esan ke, se= eto desiran realamente filosofar kon mio sur la demokrateso (demokratio), = pe kueso eto fagon ei mio konprenon pe suas parolos. kon una parolanto de e= sloviko (tesa Slovio) la afero esun simila. nunkua duas parolantos de helpo= planlinguos kon vokabularo glasnostamente aposteriora frakasin en komunikar= mutuamente, traverso longa periodo, por rasonos meramente linguologas, mer= amente de vokabularo. mio inkluso eson plus radika: se duas parolant= os de helpoplanlinguos non interkonprenan, itos non interkonprenan... proku= e itos non desiran interkomunikar. se itos desirun interkomunikar, itos pro= nto trovun ou kreun formos linguas komunas suficantas. inkluso una parolant= o de volapuko interkonprenun kon una parolanto de esataiko, anke las duas v= okabularos konrespondantas esan konpletamente opakas internacionamente ei m= utuamente. ei mio donin una eksenplo de estrema dificileso, dentro las help= oplanlinguos. la volapukoparolanto ei la esataparolanto interkonprenun via = la angliko ou via alkuna euroklono pe kualo itos adaptun ou kreun para la o= kasiono. amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, im= eilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- mesaj= o orijina ----- Kara Alexandre, mi aprecia to quo tu skriba. E tei = "novialokcidental" es astonant, tre bon. Abandono de sektantismo e = de psikologia tribal in interlinguistika es bona afere. De altra latere, ta= l kozes existe in interlinguistika, quel es acceptat da certi grupe de home= s, e tamen pro ta kozes ili certe no deveni alquel tribe o sekte. Exemplim,= noi agnoska, que li internacional alfabete es Latin. In gramatika noi uza = un sistema, ube es adjektives, adverbes, participies, sufixes, prefixes, pr= epoziciones, e kelka altri kozes. Multa linguas sur Tera uza altra gramatik= sistemas. In fonetika noi uza akcente simpla, no tonika. Noi no uza longa = e kurta vokales, e li sistema de vokales es a, e, o, u, i. Noi uza konsonan= tes sonora e ne sonora, quale b-p, d-t, k-g, e noi no uza aspirant consonan= tes quale bha, tha. (Forsan esud utila haver kompleta listo de tal = kozes.) Mem if iste face de nos alquel "tribe", iste ya es totim alt= ra kazum. Iste no es quale "occidentalisme" o "novialisme". Mi pensa= , que noi deve serchar e augmentar quantum de kozes komuna por certi grupe = de Internacional Auxiliar Linguas, e posible diminuar quantum de kozes dife= rent, o almene no multifikar existent diferencies. Exemplim, por exp= resar pronomine 1 singular in nominativ, noi have certi variantes: mi, me, = io, yo. If alqui uza in su Internacional Auxiliar Lingua exemplim "= ya" o "ay" por expresar ta pronomine, iste es polucione del sule, ube ALOE = (Auxiliar Lingua Okcident-Europan) kreska, if vi komprende mei metafora. Ta= l homes deve sentir respondeso, mi pensa. Rosto. ------------8C1E2A416082065 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial?

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&= nbsp;      dentro mia citasiono de tua mesajo, mio eliminan = ou esplikan tuas abreviaturos, usundo senpre las formos konpletas. mio kons= ilan evitar las abreviaturos kuando kuesto esan posibla dentro las mesajos = via helpoplanlinguos, prokue la komodeso mater redaktar fa la sendanto deva= n cedar ante la facileso mater konprenar desde la receptanto. especialament= e ono devan evitar la estilo de alkunas broxuros esperantistas dove ono dev= an tenar memoro de elefanto para konocar la monto de abreviaturos esperanti= stas usatas ali, ei solamente ali (solamente inter esperantistos).

       menan, m= io iron ba la fondo de tua interesanta mesajo.

=        la interlinguistiko, helpopl= anlinguistiko ou helpoplanlinguologio esan una cienco eksperimenta, esan un= a aspekto teoria ei aplikata de la linguologio (linguistiko) sur las linguo= s helpantas planatas. la kriterio suprema de kualkuna cienco eksperimenta e= san la konkordanteso inter la hipoteso ou teorio ei la fakto ou eksperiment= o. una rasgo de certa helpoplanlinguo posiblan esar teoriamente dificila, m= a aceptabla kuando las parolantos, jeneralamente, pe kuesta rasgo dominan b= onamente; ou, inversamente, una rasgo teoriamente desirabla devan esar refu= sata kuando las parolantos frakasan kontinuamente malgre sua bona uso de al= tras aspektos mater la helpoplanlinguo konsiderata.

       kuando la helpoplanling= uologio pasin, en la komenco de la sekulo duodecesma (20) de esar una arto = personista fa alkunas dotatas poliglotos, ba esar una cienco eksperimenta, = una parto de la linguologio jenerala, ono kostruin progresivamente una korp= o de konocimento konfirmata fa las faktos, una konocimento cienca eksperime= nta ja non dependanta under las ilusionos ou manios de alkuna poligloto ou = grupo de poliglotos.

 =      kuesta rasgo de la helpoplanlinguologio komo cienco ek= sperimenta sirvan para refutar la konocata mito segon la kualo "las euroklo= nos ja estan superatas".

&n= bsp;      las euroklonos, inoltre denominatas komo helpoplan= linguos europokcidenteskas ou komo auksiliantas linguos okcidentas europesk= as, non estan superatas; sino ke, inversamente, itos esan la modelo klasika= ei plenamente operativa oji para kualkuna helpoplanlinguo seriosa.<= /p>

       eske po= r kualo? prokue las interesatos pro linguos helpantas internacionas refusin= las altras modelos ei elektin la modelo euroklona. la roiko (tesa Ro), la = volapuko, la usiko (tesa Usik), la esataiko (tesa Esata) ei altras helpopla= nlinguos kon vokabularo apriora, deformata ou internacionamente non rekonoc= abla eksistan, ui, ma itos nunkua atraktan una maso estabila de parolantos.= las volapukistos abandonin la volapuko kuando aparin linguos komo la esper= anto ou la idiomo neutrala, kon una vokabularo kualo respektin seriosamente= la lejislo mater la minima esforco.

       la unika korpo de vokabularo konocata = internacionamente oji esan la korpo formata fa las grandas linguos europokc= identas, fundamentamente la portugaliko, la espaniko, la franciko ei la ang= liko. las altras vokabularos tenan, komo maksimo, una anpla uso rejiona; la= vokabularo eslava ei la vokabularo arabislama esan duas bonas eksenplos de= vokabularo anplamente usata dentro ekstensas rejionos, ma nunkua globament= e. eksenplamente, la vokabularo eslava tenan una uso kuasi nula en isa afri= ko, ou la vokabularo arabislama kuasi non esan usata en isa ameriko norda e= i suda, ecetera. inversamente, una bona parto de la vokabularo europokciden= ta esan usata, por parolantos naskivas ou por parolantos sekondaras, en kua= lkuna loko de la mondo. radikos semantikas komo "telefono, cokolato, intern= eto, demokrato" tenan pe uomos kios konocan pe itos, inkluso en isa cinijo,= isa afganijo, isa ugandijo, usa irianjayaijo ou isa paraguayijo.

       por kueso= , la nukleo de la vokabularo devan esar europokcidenta. donke, la lejislo l= inguistika mater la minima esforco portan la restanta "paketo". se la vokab= ularo esan europokcidenta, donke inoltre la fonetiko, la ortografio, la mor= fosintakso, ecetera, devan esar europokcidenteskas. las evidentas absurdos = ou dificilesos devan esar eliminatas, ui, ei una bona eksenplo esan la atri= butasiono de sekso gramatika ba las entos sin sekso reala, ma las rasgos eu= ropokcidentas konpatablas kon la facileso teoria ei praktika devan esar kon= servatas; una tipa eksenplo esan la pluralo via la adiciono de la fonemo "s= " ba la singularo.

  &= nbsp;    mio nuancon ke dentro las linguos europokcidentas la ace= nto esan jeneralamente tonika, komo en la rusiko, kualo esan una linguo esl= ava. la acento esan sinpla, ui, ma esan predominantamente una acento tona o= u tonika, acento de intenseso, de tono ou toniko intensa (non de tono musik= a plus ou minus akuta, ni de longeso vokala). la franciko esan una eksepsio= no, kon acento fiksa dentro la ultima silabo, acento debila ei frekuentamen= te nasala ou de longa vokalo. la regulo fundamenta en las linguos europokci= dentas, donke inoltre en las euroklonos, esan una acento tonika de intenses= o en la preultima vokalo de las parolos polivokalas... ei sin nuanco semant= ika, sibian en espaniko ei en rusiko la acento parolata (ou grafika) distin= gan parolos. donke, kuesta regulo inplikan ke, dentro las euroklonos, la ac= ento nunkua distingun parolos ei ke non eksistun acento grafika, kuesa acen= to grafika kualo aparan sistemamente en la espaniko ei eksepsionamente (par= a markar la acento pronuncata dentro parolos ignotas) en la rusiko.<= /p>

       ono fre= kuentamente distingan inter euroklonos regulistas komo la esperanto, la ido= , la ulango ou la linguo franka nova, ei euroklonos naturistas komo la okci= dentaliko, la novialo, la interlinguaiko ou la latino sin fleksiono. la dis= tingasiono eksistan, ui, ma eto esan una distingasiono plus de grado kuanto= de esenco. primo, prokue kualkuna euroklono seriosa esan naturista en sua = vokabularo, inkluso la esperanto, ei pos prokue inoltre las euroklonos "nat= uristas" tenan rasgos sistemas de kostruasiono eskemista. la uso sistema de= prefiksos internacionas komo "retro" ou "aero" esan una bona eksenplo de t= ala eskemismo. ono noten ke altras euroklonos komo la intalo ou la atlango = presentan rasgos intermedias, inter la estrema eskemismo de la euroklono pl= us eskemista, la esperanto, ei la estrema naturismo de la euroklono plus na= turista, la interlinguaiko ibereska fa isula josuo lavino (tesula Josu Lavi= n), la romaniko (tesa Romanica).

       las rasgos estremistas de la eskemismo ou = de la naturismo esan tipamente refusatas, de modo progresivo, por las parol= antos. eksenplamente, una formo tanto opaka ei anbigua internacionamente ku= anto "mezbona" en la esperanto esan substituata jeneralamente via la klara = ei internaciona formo "mediokra". inversamente, una rasgo dificila ei estre= mamente naturista de la romaniko, la atributasiono de sekso gramatika (jene= ro gramatika) ba las petros, las triangulos ou la cielo, esan lojikamente e= vitata por kuasi kualkuna altra euroklono; kuestas rasgos estremistas opera= n kontra la lejislo mater la minima esforco sin ofertar beneficos perceptab= las ta la parolanto tipa de linguos helpantas planatas.

       mio, oji, desiran e= sar praktika ei, donke, mio fagan kuestiono cienca ta las parolantos ei esk= ribantos de euroklonos "naturistas". eske por kualo mio devun aprendar la u= so de la duobla "ss" en parolos komo "pressiono" ou de la "y" semivokala en= parolos dove la pronuncasiono esan senpre plenamente vokala, komo "systemo= "? se mio usan formos de ortografio sinpla ei fonetika komo "presiono" ei "= sistemo", mio senpre eson facilamente konprenata, donke las novialistos ei = okcidentalikistos devun respondar ta mio sur sua uso de las formos "systeme= " ei "systema" kon "y" semivokala. ma itos non respondan...

       mio opinan ke l= as euroklonos devan esar jeneralamente eskemistas en ortografio, morfosinta= kso (formosintakso) ei konponasiono de vokabularo, ma aceptundo formos inte= rnacionas tre populas, inkluso se kuesas formos non esan regulas. la formo = "dificila" esan plus dificilamente ou disfacilamente memorabla kuanto la fo= rmo "disfacila", plus reguloja ei kualo evitan la aprendasiono de una nova = radiko semantika sinpla, ma prokue eto esan plenamente internaciona, kuesa = formo "dificila" esan, en konkludasiono, la formo preferabla dentro las eur= oklonos.

    &nbs= p;  ono devan inoltre nuancar ke las rasgos de las euroklonos non esan= una sinpla kalko ou kopio de las rasgos presentas dentro las grandas lingu= os europokcidentas. eksenplamente, la franciko, la angliko ei la portugalik= o ibera (la galegiko ou la brasiliko, similas ba la portugaliko ibera, esan= vokalamente plus sinplas) presentan numerojas vokalos nasalas, intermedias= , debilas ou sinkopatas. ma las euroklonos non imitan kuesta vokalismo, pre= ferundo la tipa pentavokalismo de la espaniko, la euskiko (baskiko, vaskiko= ) ou la grekiko moderna. kuestas vokalos intermedias kausun grandas problem= os de konprenasiono inter parolantos kon sistemos naskivas de vokalos tre d= iferantas mutuamente. eksenplamente, se una parolanto naskiva de irlandiko = parolun kon una parolanto naskiva de vietnamiko via una formo de ido ma kon= vokalos guturalas ei intermedias inter las cinkas vokalos klasikas "a e i = o u", itos tenun seriosas dificilesos, nuancundo ke en la irlandiko la long= eso de las vokalos distingan signifos, komo la alteso vokala de tono musika= en la vietnamiko inoltre distingan signifos. la kaosa, arkaika ei antifone= tika ortografio de la franciko ei la angliko solamente esan imitata (ei non= senpre) dentro alkunas euroklonos naturistas, predominundo una ortografio = fonetika de alfabeto latina kon eskarsas signos diakritas, komo en la itali= ko, la indonesiko ou la swahiliko. la verbo "esar" esan tre antireguloja en= las grandas linguos europokcidentas, ma kuesta antireguleso estan tre limi= tata ou inkluso nulata dentro las euroklonos realas. las euroklonos estan p= lus proksimas ba las kreolos ou pijinos de tipo neolatina, komo la haitiko,= la papiamento ou la cabakano; kuestas kreolos ou pijinos tenan una radika = sinplasiono fonetika, ortografia, morfologia ei sintaksa; ei la vokabularo = de kuestas euroklonos ou pijinos enkorpan una granda proporciono de vokabul= aro prendata mater la angliko, la hindiurduiko ei altras linguos kon uso ko= merca internaciona, donke non esundo ja linguos de vokabularo meramente neo= latina.

     = ;  la soluciono para kuestas problemos aparan, realamente, kuando las = euroklonos esan usatas para propositos praktikas, non komo ludo de poliglot= os eruditas ei diletantas.

=        eksenplamente, kuando mio argumentan ei dialogan= sur (frekuentamente, kontra) la demokrateso mio evitan, lojikamente, usar = una vokabularo opaka internacionamente, ou konkugasionos verbas eksepsionas= kualos konsumun superfluamente pe mia tenpo redaktundo. inversamente, la p= reposiciono "pe" de akusativo evitan la anbigueso en frasos longas, konplik= atas ou kon hiperbatono. ma las frasos tipas necesan ninkuna preposiciono o= u sufikso de akusativo.

&nb= sp;      proksimamente mio aplikon kuestas principios, filos= ofundo kontra la demokrateso via euroklonos.

       eksenplamente, se alkuna parol= anto de lingwodeplanetiko desiran realamente parolar kon mio sur la demokra= teso (inves parolar sur linguistiko) eto tipamente uson una vokabularo non = puramente europokcidenta, ma se eto desiran komunikar kon mio inves parolar= ante una muro, eto tendencon ba usar formos tre internacionas (non senpre = europokcidentas, evidentamente) inves una puzlo ou puslo de vokabularo poli= teritoria eskarsamente operativa inkluso para una rekonocata poligloto komo= mio. nosa komunikasiono funcionon se eto esan una lingwodeplanetoparolanto= inves una tipa lingwodeplanetisto; se eto usan la lingwodeplanetiko komo u= na istrumento de komunikasiono inves komo una eskopo intrinseka. la verito = esan ke, se eto desiran realamente filosofar kon mio sur la demokrateso (de= mokratio), pe kueso eto fagon ei mio konprenon pe suas parolos. kon una par= olanto de esloviko (tesa Slovio) la afero esun simila. nunkua duas parolant= os de helpoplanlinguos kon vokabularo glasnostamente aposteriora frakasin e= n komunikar mutuamente, traverso longa periodo, por rasonos meramente lingu= ologas, meramente de vokabularo.

       mio inkluso eson plus radika: se duas paro= lantos de helpoplanlinguos non interkonprenan, itos non interkonprenan... p= rokue itos non desiran interkomunikar. se itos desirun interkomunikar, itos= pronto trovun ou kreun formos linguas komunas suficantas. inkluso una paro= lanto de volapuko interkonprenun kon una parolanto de esataiko, anke las du= as vokabularos konrespondantas esan konpletamente opakas internacionamente = ei mutuamente. ei mio donin una eksenplo de estrema dificileso, dentro las = helpoplanlinguos. la volapukoparolanto ei la esataparolanto interkonprenun = via la angliko ou via alkuna euroklono pe kualo itos adaptun ou kreun para = la okasiono.

    =    amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeil= o trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


      &n= bsp;----- mesajo orijina -----


       Kara Alexandre, mi= aprecia to quo tu skriba. E tei "novialokcidental" es astonant, tre bon.&n= bsp;

      &= nbsp;Abandono de sektantismo e de psikologia tribal in interlinguistika es = bona afere. De altra latere, tal kozes existe in interlinguistika, quel es = acceptat da certi grupe de homes, e tamen pro ta kozes ili certe no deveni = alquel tribe o sekte. Exemplim, noi agnoska, que li internacional alfabete = es Latin. In gramatika noi uza un sistema, ube es adjektives, adverbes, par= ticipies, sufixes, prefixes, prepoziciones, e kelka altri kozes. Multa ling= uas sur Tera uza altra gramatik sistemas. In fonetika noi uza akcente simpl= a, no tonika. Noi no uza longa e kurta vokales, e li sistema de vokales es = a, e, o, u, i. Noi uza konsonantes sonora e ne sonora, quale b-p, d-t, k-g,= e noi no uza aspirant consonantes quale bha, tha. 

       (Forsan esud utila= haver kompleta listo de tal kozes.)

       Mem if iste face de nos alquel "tribe"= , iste ya es totim altra kazum. Iste no es quale "occidentalisme" o "novial= isme".

     =  Mi pensa, que noi deve serchar e augmentar quantum de kozes komuna p= or certi grupe de Internacional Auxiliar Linguas, e posible diminuar quantu= m de kozes diferent, o almene no multifikar existent diferencies.

       Exemplim,= por expresar pronomine 1 singular in nominativ, noi have certi variantes: = mi, me, io, yo. 

 = ;      If alqui uza in su Internacional Auxiliar Lingua exem= plim "ya" o "ay" por expresar ta pronomine, iste es polucione del sule, ube= ALOE (Auxiliar Lingua Okcident-Europan) kreska, if vi komprende mei metafo= ra. Tal homes deve sentir respondeso, mi pensa.

       Rosto.


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=n-U1tPR1Owh-Rmz380xmDslOjYBNdinVrJyj8mqBLbVcQwvhtVjEUz7JZbgv X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kara Alexandre! Mi konsenti pri abreviaturas, iste es mei kulpe. Mi devud s= kribar "ALOE (Auxiliar Linguas Oxident-Europan)", kun klarifiko, quale tu y= uste korektiv me. Mi tamen have tote altra vidpunkte a europocentrisme e d= emokrateso de euroklones, o quale mi vud dice, ALOik (ALOa, ALOi, ALOal) li= nguas (Mi lektav, que li termine "euroklon" es regardat da kelkas quam pejo= rativ, e pro to mi pena inventer plu respektoza termine.) Nulqui kulpiza S= lovio o Slovianski, que it es slavo-centrik, o Folkspraak, que it is german= o-centrik, o Romanica, que it es romano-centrik. De komense iste es li inte= rna id=E9as de ta linguas. Mi regarda linguas euroklonik (ALOik) quam de ko= mense okcident-europani. Iste es lesi interna id=E9a. Lingwa de Planeta ko= lekta paroles de diversa lingual familias - chinik, slavik, arabik... Iste = es un altra id=E9a. Un home darfa preferar ta o altra id=E9a. Mi ipsa aprec= ia okupar me pri euroklones. Iste sembla a me interesant. Ma qui darfa deci= der, quo es plu bona por omna munde, e quo no es? Noi darfa prognozar, que = euroklones have maxim granda potencialum eser maxim uzat in li munde quam L= ingua Internacional Auxiliari. O forsan Lingua de Planeta have maxim granda= potencialum. O forsan ni tum ni altrum. Ma iste darfa eser nur nosi progno= zes. Diskurso pri tum, ka euroklonik id=E9a es demokratik o no, tal diskurs= o no have sense. Euroklones bezona propra identeso por evolucionar plu in s= u propra direkcione. Euroklones ja existent e uzat, nun o in pasatum, quale= Esperanto, Idiom Neutral, Ido, Occidental, Novial e Interlingua e anque IN= TAL o forsan alquel plus, iste es un parte de identeso, iste es li tradicio= ne. Interlinguistika es no nur un sciento experimental, ma iste es anque u= n kultura, quel bezona su tradicione. E interlinguistika quam sciento quank= am partim es un sciento experimental, ma anque iste es un sciento quale kul= turologia, quel studia kulturas ja existent. On pova experimentar kun subku= lturas quale hipi, pank, metal, gotika o emo, ma precipua subjekto de kultu= rologia es kulturas tradicional. Skribar "sempre" o "kompleta" es tradicio= nal, e "senpre" o "konpleta" es non-tradicional. "Chi tia", "ica", "ti ci",= "iste" es tradicional, "kuesta" es non-tradicional. Yen, mi questiona, qua= l es valor de tal experimentes, pro quo on pova bezonar tal experimentes? = Por me sembla, que Ikuso es un suficiante saja reforme de Esperanto, e it e= s plu saja quam it aspekte de prim regardo. Ma pro kelka exotik elementes q= uale "pu isula" homes no vide de prim regardo, quo es Ikuso e rapide perde = interese. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier C= asanova Domingo escribi=F3: > > salutos, pu isula ros= to. > dentro mia citasiono de tua mesajo, mio eliminan ou esplikan t= uas abreviaturos, usundo senpre las formos konpletas. mio konsilan evitar l= as abreviaturos kuando kuesto esan posibla dentro las mesajos via helpoplan= linguos, prokue la komodeso mater redaktar fa la sendanto devan cedar ante = la facileso mater konprenar desde la receptanto. especialamente ono devan e= vitar la estilo de alkunas broxuros esperantistas dove ono devan tenar memo= ro de elefanto para konocar la monto de abreviaturos esperantistas usatas a= li, ei solamente ali (solamente inter esperantistos). > menan, mio i= ron ba la fondo de tua interesanta mesajo. > la interlinguistiko, he= lpoplanlinguistiko ou helpoplanlinguologio esan una cienco eksperimenta, es= an una aspekto teoria ei aplikata de la linguologio (linguistiko) sur las l= inguos helpantas planatas. la kriterio suprema de kualkuna cienco eksperime= nta esan la konkordanteso inter la hipoteso ou teorio ei la fakto ou eksper= imento. una rasgo de certa helpoplanlinguo posiblan esar teoriamente difici= la, ma aceptabla kuando las parolantos, jeneralamente, pe kuesta rasgo domi= nan bonamente; ou, inversamente, una rasgo teoriamente desirabla devan esar= refusata kuando las parolantos frakasan kontinuamente malgre sua bona uso = de altras aspektos mater la helpoplanlinguo konsiderata. > kuando la= helpoplanlinguologio pasin, en la komenco de la sekulo duodecesma (20) de = esar una arto personista fa alkunas dotatas poliglotos, ba esar una cienco = eksperimenta, una parto de la linguologio jenerala, ono kostruin progresiva= mente una korpo de konocimento konfirmata fa las faktos, una konocimento ci= enca eksperimenta ja non dependanta under las ilusionos ou manios de alkuna= poligloto ou grupo de poliglotos. > kuesta rasgo de la helpoplanlin= guologio komo cienco eksperimenta sirvan para refutar la konocata mito sego= n la kualo "las euroklonos ja estan superatas". > las euroklonos, in= oltre denominatas komo helpoplanlinguos europokcidenteskas ou komo auksilia= ntas linguos okcidentas europeskas, non estan superatas; sino ke, inversame= nte, itos esan la modelo klasika ei plenamente operativa oji para kualkuna = helpoplanlinguo seriosa. > eske por kualo? prokue las interesatos pr= o linguos helpantas internacionas refusin las altras modelos ei elektin la = modelo euroklona. la roiko (tesa Ro), la volapuko, la usiko (tesa Usik), la= esataiko (tesa Esata) ei altras helpoplanlinguos kon vokabularo apriora, d= eformata ou internacionamente non rekonocabla eksistan, ui, ma itos nunkua = atraktan una maso estabila de parolantos. las volapukistos abandonin la vol= apuko kuando aparin linguos komo la esperanto ou la idiomo neutrala, kon un= a vokabularo kualo respektin seriosamente la lejislo mater la minima esforc= o. > la unika korpo de vokabularo konocata internacionamente oji esa= n la korpo formata fa las grandas linguos europokcidentas, fundamentamente = la portugaliko, la espaniko, la franciko ei la angliko. las altras vokabula= ros tenan, komo maksimo, una anpla uso rejiona; la vokabularo eslava ei la = vokabularo arabislama esan duas bonas eksenplos de vokabularo anplamente us= ata dentro ekstensas rejionos, ma nunkua globamente. eksenplamente, la voka= bularo eslava tenan una uso kuasi nula en isa afriko, ou la vokabularo arab= islama kuasi non esan usata en isa ameriko norda ei suda, ecetera. inversam= ente, una bona parto de la vokabularo europokcidenta esan usata, por parola= ntos naskivas ou por parolantos sekondaras, en kualkuna loko de la mondo. r= adikos semantikas komo "telefono, cokolato, interneto, demokrato" tenan pe = uomos kios konocan pe itos, inkluso en isa cinijo, isa afganijo, isa ugandi= jo, usa irianjayaijo ou isa paraguayijo. > por kueso, la nukleo de l= a vokabularo devan esar europokcidenta. donke, la lejislo linguistika mater= la minima esforco portan la restanta "paketo". se la vokabularo esan europ= okcidenta, donke inoltre la fonetiko, la ortografio, la morfosintakso, ecet= era, devan esar europokcidenteskas. las evidentas absurdos ou dificilesos d= evan esar eliminatas, ui, ei una bona eksenplo esan la atributasiono de sek= so gramatika ba las entos sin sekso reala, ma las rasgos europokcidentas ko= npatablas kon la facileso teoria ei praktika devan esar konservatas; una ti= pa eksenplo esan la pluralo via la adiciono de la fonemo "s" ba la singular= o. > mio nuancon ke dentro las linguos europokcidentas la acento esa= n jeneralamente tonika, komo en la rusiko, kualo esan una linguo eslava. la= acento esan sinpla, ui, ma esan predominantamente una acento tona ou tonik= a, acento de intenseso, de tono ou toniko intensa (non de tono musika plus = ou minus akuta, ni de longeso vokala). la franciko esan una eksepsiono, kon= acento fiksa dentro la ultima silabo, acento debila ei frekuentamente nasa= la ou de longa vokalo. la regulo fundamenta en las linguos europokcidentas,= donke inoltre en las euroklonos, esan una acento tonika de intenseso en la= preultima vokalo de las parolos polivokalas... ei sin nuanco semantika, si= bian en espaniko ei en rusiko la acento parolata (ou grafika) distingan par= olos. donke, kuesta regulo inplikan ke, dentro las euroklonos, la acento nu= nkua distingun parolos ei ke non eksistun acento grafika, kuesa acento graf= ika kualo aparan sistemamente en la espaniko ei eksepsionamente (para marka= r la acento pronuncata dentro parolos ignotas) en la rusiko. > ono f= rekuentamente distingan inter euroklonos regulistas komo la esperanto, la i= do, la ulango ou la linguo franka nova, ei euroklonos naturistas komo la ok= cidentaliko, la novialo, la interlinguaiko ou la latino sin fleksiono. la d= istingasiono eksistan, ui, ma eto esan una distingasiono plus de grado kuan= to de esenco. primo, prokue kualkuna euroklono seriosa esan naturista en su= a vokabularo, inkluso la esperanto, ei pos prokue inoltre las euroklonos "n= aturistas" tenan rasgos sistemas de kostruasiono eskemista. la uso sistema = de prefiksos internacionas komo "retro" ou "aero" esan una bona eksenplo de= tala eskemismo. ono noten ke altras euroklonos komo la intalo ou la atlang= o presentan rasgos intermedias, inter la estrema eskemismo de la euroklono = plus eskemista, la esperanto, ei la estrema naturismo de la euroklono plus = naturista, la interlinguaiko ibereska fa isula josuo lavino (tesula Josu La= vin), la romaniko (tesa Romanica). > las rasgos estremistas de la es= kemismo ou de la naturismo esan tipamente refusatas, de modo progresivo, po= r las parolantos. eksenplamente, una formo tanto opaka ei anbigua internaci= onamente kuanto "mezbona" en la esperanto esan substituata jeneralamente vi= a la klara ei internaciona formo "mediokra". inversamente, una rasgo difici= la ei estremamente naturista de la romaniko, la atributasiono de sekso gram= atika (jenero gramatika) ba las petros, las triangulos ou la cielo, esan lo= jikamente evitata por kuasi kualkuna altra euroklono; kuestas rasgos estrem= istas operan kontra la lejislo mater la minima esforco sin ofertar benefico= s perceptablas ta la parolanto tipa de linguos helpantas planatas. > = mio, oji, desiran esar praktika ei, donke, mio fagan kuestiono cienca ta l= as parolantos ei eskribantos de euroklonos "naturistas". eske por kualo mio= devun aprendar la uso de la duobla "ss" en parolos komo "pressiono" ou de = la "y" semivokala en parolos dove la pronuncasiono esan senpre plenamente v= okala, komo "systemo"? se mio usan formos de ortografio sinpla ei fonetika = komo "presiono" ei "sistemo", mio senpre eson facilamente konprenata, donke= las novialistos ei okcidentalikistos devun respondar ta mio sur sua uso de= las formos "systeme" ei "systema" kon "y" semivokala. ma itos non responda= n... > mio opinan ke las euroklonos devan esar jeneralamente eskemis= tas en ortografio, morfosintakso (formosintakso) ei konponasiono de vokabul= aro, ma aceptundo formos internacionas tre populas, inkluso se kuesas formo= s non esan regulas. la formo "dificila" esan plus dificilamente ou disfacil= amente memorabla kuanto la formo "disfacila", plus reguloja ei kualo evitan= la aprendasiono de una nova radiko semantika sinpla, ma prokue eto esan pl= enamente internaciona, kuesa formo "dificila" esan, en konkludasiono, la fo= rmo preferabla dentro las euroklonos. > ono devan inoltre nuancar ke= las rasgos de las euroklonos non esan una sinpla kalko ou kopio de las ras= gos presentas dentro las grandas linguos europokcidentas. eksenplamente, la= franciko, la angliko ei la portugaliko ibera (la galegiko ou la brasiliko,= similas ba la portugaliko ibera, esan vokalamente plus sinplas) presentan = numerojas vokalos nasalas, intermedias, debilas ou sinkopatas. ma las eurok= lonos non imitan kuesta vokalismo, preferundo la tipa pentavokalismo de la = espaniko, la euskiko (baskiko, vaskiko) ou la grekiko moderna. kuestas voka= los intermedias kausun grandas problemos de konprenasiono inter parolantos = kon sistemos naskivas de vokalos tre diferantas mutuamente. eksenplamente, = se una parolanto naskiva de irlandiko parolun kon una parolanto naskiva de = vietnamiko via una formo de ido ma kon vokalos guturalas ei intermedias int= er las cinkas vokalos klasikas "a e i o u", itos tenun seriosas dificilesos= , nuancundo ke en la irlandiko la longeso de las vokalos distingan signifos= , komo la alteso vokala de tono musika en la vietnamiko inoltre distingan s= ignifos. la kaosa, arkaika ei antifonetika ortografio de la franciko ei la = angliko solamente esan imitata (ei non senpre) dentro alkunas euroklonos na= turistas, predominundo una ortografio fonetika de alfabeto latina kon eskar= sas signos diakritas, komo en la italiko, la indonesiko ou la swahiliko. la= verbo "esar" esan tre antireguloja en las grandas linguos europokcidentas,= ma kuesta antireguleso estan tre limitata ou inkluso nulata dentro las eur= oklonos realas. las euroklonos estan plus proksimas ba las kreolos ou pijin= os de tipo neolatina, komo la haitiko, la papiamento ou la cabakano; kuesta= s kreolos ou pijinos tenan una radika sinplasiono fonetika, ortografia, mor= fologia ei sintaksa; ei la vokabularo de kuestas euroklonos ou pijinos enko= rpan una granda proporciono de vokabularo prendata mater la angliko, la hin= diurduiko ei altras linguos kon uso komerca internaciona, donke non esundo = ja linguos de vokabularo meramente neolatina. > la soluciono para ku= estas problemos aparan, realamente, kuando las euroklonos esan usatas para = propositos praktikas, non komo ludo de poliglotos eruditas ei diletantas. >= eksenplamente, kuando mio argumentan ei dialogan sur (frekuentament= e, kontra) la demokrateso mio evitan, lojikamente, usar una vokabularo opak= a internacionamente, ou konkugasionos verbas eksepsionas kualos konsumun su= perfluamente pe mia tenpo redaktundo. inversamente, la preposiciono "pe" de= akusativo evitan la anbigueso en frasos longas, konplikatas ou kon hiperba= tono. ma las frasos tipas necesan ninkuna preposiciono ou sufikso de akusat= ivo. > proksimamente mio aplikon kuestas principios, filosofundo kon= tra la demokrateso via euroklonos. > eksenplamente, se alkuna parola= nto de lingwodeplanetiko desiran realamente parolar kon mio sur la demokrat= eso (inves parolar sur linguistiko) eto tipamente uson una vokabularo non p= uramente europokcidenta, ma se eto desiran komunikar kon mio inves parolar = ante una muro, eto tendencon ba usar formos tre internacionas (non senpre e= uropokcidentas, evidentamente) inves una puzlo ou puslo de vokabularo polit= eritoria eskarsamente operativa inkluso para una rekonocata poligloto komo = mio. nosa komunikasiono funcionon se eto esan una lingwodeplanetoparolanto = inves una tipa lingwodeplanetisto; se eto usan la lingwodeplanetiko komo un= a istrumento de komunikasiono inves komo una eskopo intrinseka. la verito e= san ke, se eto desiran realamente filosofar kon mio sur la demokrateso (dem= okratio), pe kueso eto fagon ei mio konprenon pe suas parolos. kon una paro= lanto de esloviko (tesa Slovio) la afero esun simila. nunkua duas parolanto= s de helpoplanlinguos kon vokabularo glasnostamente aposteriora frakasin en= komunikar mutuamente, traverso longa periodo, por rasonos meramente linguo= logas, meramente de vokabularo. > mio inkluso eson plus radika: se d= uas parolantos de helpoplanlinguos non interkonprenan, itos non interkonpre= nan... prokue itos non desiran interkomunikar. se itos desirun interkomunik= ar, itos pronto trovun ou kreun formos linguas komunas suficantas. inkluso = una parolanto de volapuko interkonprenun kon una parolanto de esataiko, ank= e las duas vokabularos konrespondantas esan konpletamente opakas internacio= namente ei mutuamente. ei mio donin una eksenplo de estrema dificileso, den= tro las helpoplanlinguos. la volapukoparolanto ei la esataparolanto interko= nprenun via la angliko ou via alkuna euroklono pe kualo itos adaptun ou kre= un para la okasiono. > amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasano= vo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7662 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Ros= to. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" = scribav: > > & & & & & & & & & & & & > > > > Ido - Josh, ocidero di al= ieni > > http://www.literaturo.ido.li/josh.pdf > > > > & & & & & & & & = & & & & > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7663 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Ol aspektas quale sorto di Populido= (od adminime Bazal Populido), e me pensabas propozar frazo skribita en Li= ng por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden altra LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #28: = Ling: Il am dukt nov auto, e jer il vend se old auto. Ido: Il prizas du= ktar nov automobili, e hiere il vendis sua old automobilo. Ho, yes! Volu= ntez atencar, ke l'unesma parto dil frazo en Ling interpretesas plurale (en= Ido: nov automobili, kontre ke l' duesma, singulare (en Ido: old automobi= lo). Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo #28 = aden Esperanto klasika, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Volap= =FCk, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, ed irg altra helpo-lingui neutra= , quin vi konocas. Predanko ed adavane, kolegaro! * * * * * * * * p a r= t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7664 Return-Path: X-Sender: cafaristeir@... 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Olivier http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/ --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogrou= ps.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Estimata p_M-ani: > = > Ka vi ja lektis od audis pri "Ling", > helpo-linguo qua kreesis da Suedo,= > Anders Olson, en 1948? > > Ol aspektas quale sorto di Populido > (od ad= minime Bazal Populido), e me > pensabas propozar frazo skribita en > Ling = por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden > altra LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #28: > = > Ling: > Il am dukt nov auto, > e jer il vend se old auto. > > Ido: >= Il prizas duktar nov automobili, > e hiere il vendis sua old automobilo. = > > > Ho, yes! Voluntez atencar, ke l'unesma parto > dil frazo en Ling in= terpretesas plurale (en Ido: > nov automobili, kontre ke l' duesma, singul= are > (en Ido: old automobilo). > > Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pr= egas vi > tradukar nia frazo #28 aden Esperanto klasika, > Interlingua, Occ= idental/Interlingue, Novial, Volap=FCk, > Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexio= ne, ed irg altra > helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. > > Predanko ed a= davane, kolegaro! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * = * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7665 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo= #28 aden Esperanto klasika, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, V= olap=FCk, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, ed irg altra helpo-lingui ne= utra, quin vi konocas. Predanko ed adavane, kolegaro! * * * * * * * *= p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7668 Return-Path: X-Sender: philippe.cousson@... 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Kore Philippe Cousson Le 09/03/2011 12:05, postamundi a �crit : > > Kar amiki: > > Me konjektas ke en Ling la formo "old" > suficas ed ol es tote justa; tamen, en Ido > existas la vorti "olda" ed "anciena", e nun > me komencas pensar, ke en Ido (e forsan > anke en altra helpo-lingui), la justa formo > povus esar "ancien" vice "old" automobilo. > > Se "il prizas duktar nov automobili", semblas > ne-probabla, ke il posedas "old automobilo", > ma nur "ancien automobilo", quan il uzabas > dum, forsan, nur du, tri, quar o kin yari. > > Ka viajudike nia amiko vendis sua "olda", > o sua "anciena" automobilo? > > Vi omna juez maxim bona dio! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > , > "postamundi" skribis: > > Estimata p_M-ani: > > Ka vi ja lektis od audis pri "Ling", > helpo-linguo qua kreesis da Suedo, > Anders Olson, en 1948? > > Ol aspektas quale sorto di Populido > (od adminime Bazal Populido), e me > pensabas propozar frazo skribita en > Ling por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden > altra LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #28: > > Ling: > Il am dukt nov auto, > e jer il vend se old auto. > > Ido: > Il prizas duktar nov automobili, > e hiere il vendis sua old automobilo. > > > Ho, yes! Voluntez atencar, ke l'unesma parto > dil frazo en Ling interpretesas plurale (en Ido: > nov automobili, kontre ke l' duesma, singulare > (en Ido: old automobilo). > > Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pregas vi > tradukar nia frazo #28 aden Esperanto klasika, > Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Volap�k, > Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, ed irg altra > helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. > > Predanko ed adavane, kolegaro! > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --------------060800040906090406050609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Esperanto

Li shatas stiri novan auton,
kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan.

La vorto malnova tute taugas.
en la dua parto, ripeti la vorton auto ne estas bezonate.

Tio iomete shanghas la signifon, sed la dua linio povus komenci per : do anstatau kaj.

Kore
Philippe Cousson

Le 09/03/2011 12:05, postamundi a écrit :
 

Kar amiki:

Me konjektas ke en Ling la formo "old"
suficas ed ol es tote justa; tamen, en Ido
existas la vorti "olda" ed "anciena", e nun
me komencas pensar, ke en Ido (e forsan
anke en altra helpo-lingui), la justa formo
povus esar "ancien" vice "old" automobilo.

Se "il prizas duktar nov automobili", semblas
ne-probabla, ke il posedas "old automobilo",
ma nur "ancien automobilo", quan il uzabas
dum, forsan, nur du, tri, quar o kin yari.

Ka viajudike nia amiko vendis sua "olda",
o sua "anciena" automobilo?

Vi omna juez maxim bona dio!

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
"postamundi" skribis:

Estimata p_M-ani:

Ka vi ja lektis od audis pri "Ling",
helpo-linguo qua kreesis da Suedo,
Anders Olson, en 1948?

Ol aspektas quale sorto di Populido
(od adminime Bazal Populido), e me
pensabas propozar frazo skribita en
Ling por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden
altra LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #28:

Ling:
Il am dukt nov auto,
e jer il vend se old auto.

Ido:
Il prizas duktar nov automobili,
e hiere il vendis sua old automobilo.


Ho, yes! Voluntez atencar, ke l'unesma parto
dil frazo en Ling interpretesas plurale (en Ido:
nov automobili, kontre ke l' duesma, singulare
(en Ido: old automobilo).

Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pregas vi
tradukar nia frazo #28 aden Esperanto klasika,
Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Volapük,
Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, ed irg altra
helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas.

Predanko ed adavane, kolegaro!


* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

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Yen la tradukuro de nia frazo #28 aden Esperanto, tal= qual ol aparas en la Vikipedio Esperantal (che "Lingo"): Li amas konduki = novajn autojn, kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan auton. Me ja komentis, = ke l'unesma parto dil frazo en Ling interpretesas plurale, do "novajn autoj= n", kontre ke l' duesma, singulare: "malnovan auton". Se tu deziras chanja= r ulo en tua suba versiono, voluntez sendar a ni tua nova tradukuro, ma se = tu preferas tua hika versiono, me adjuntos ol en la listo, tal qual tu send= abas ol a ni. Danko e predanko pri tua kunlaboro. * * * * * * * * p a r= t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Philippe Co= usson skribi: Esperanto Li shatas stiri novan aut= on, kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan. La vorto malnova tute taugas. en = la dua parto, ripeti la vorton auto ne estas bezonate. Tio iomete shangha= s la signifon, sed la dua linio povus komenci per : do anstatau kaj. Kor= e Philippe Cousson Le 09/03/2011 12:05, postamundi a =E9crit : Kar amiki= : Me konjektas ke en Ling la formo "old" suficas ed ol es tote justa; tame= n, en Ido existas la vorti "olda" ed "anciena", e nun me komencas pensar, k= e en Ido (e forsan anke en altra helpo-lingui), la justa formo povus esar "= ancien" vice "old" automobilo. Se "il prizas duktar nov automobili", sembl= as ne-probabla, ke il posedas "old automobilo", ma nur "ancien automobilo",= quan il uzabas dum, forsan, nur du, tri, quar o kin yari. Ka viajudike ni= a amiko vendis sua "olda", o sua "anciena" automobilo? Vi omna juez maxim = bona dio! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mund= i@yahoogroups.com , "postamundi" skribis: Estimata p_M-ani: Ka vi ja lektis od audis pri "Ling"= , helpo-linguo qua kreesis da Suedo, Anders Olson, en 1948? Ol aspektas qu= ale sorto di Populido (od adminime Bazal Populido), e me pensabas propozar = frazo skribita en Ling por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden altra LIA-sistemi k= om nia frazo #28: Ling: Il am dukt nov auto, e jer il vend se old auto. I= do: Il prizas duktar nov automobili, e hiere il vendis sua old automobilo. = Ho, yes! Voluntez atencar, ke l'unesma parto dil frazo en Ling interprete= sas plurale (en Ido: nov automobili, kontre ke l' duesma, singulare (en Ido= : old automobilo). Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pregas vi tradukar = nia frazo #28 aden Esperanto klasika, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, = Novial, Volap=FCk, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, ed irg altra helpo-= lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. Predanko ed adavane, kolegaro! * * * * *= * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7671 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Message-ID: <4D78C3DA.60204@...> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:28:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000705020107090203090908" From: Philippe Cousson Reply-To: philippe.cousson@... Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: Frazo #28 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=386199761; y=UNW4GHhxrFvVOCgmHpVUjsdm4r7-HvMJuqN83nEzhaGigXmvDLsABr8L X-Yahoo-Profile: philippecousson --------------000705020107090203090908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kvankam singularo tie povas havi gheneralan signifon, t.e. post tiu, li shatos stiri denove novan auton, mi modifos mian tradukon al pluralo, Li shatas stiri novajn autojn, kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan. Kore Le 09/03/2011 23:26, postamundi a �crit : > > Bon jorno, Philippe! > > Yen la tradukuro de nia frazo #28 > aden Esperanto, tal qual ol aparas > en la Vikipedio Esperantal (che "Lingo"): > > Li amas konduki novajn autojn, > kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan auton. > > Me ja komentis, ke l'unesma parto dil frazo > en Ling interpretesas plurale, do "novajn autojn", > kontre ke l' duesma, singulare: "malnovan auton". > > Se tu deziras chanjar ulo en tua suba versiono, > voluntez sendar a ni tua nova tradukuro, ma se > tu preferas tua hika versiono, me adjuntos ol > en la listo, tal qual tu sendabas ol a ni. > > Danko e predanko pri tua kunlaboro. > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > , > Philippe Cousson skribi: > > Esperanto > > Li shatas stiri novan auton, > kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan. > > La vorto malnova tute taugas. > en la dua parto, ripeti la vorton auto ne estas bezonate. > > Tio iomete shanghas la signifon, sed la dua linio povus komenci per : do > anstatau kaj. > > Kore > Philippe Cousson > > Le 09/03/2011 12:05, postamundi a �crit : > > Kar amiki: > > Me konjektas ke en Ling la formo "old" > suficas ed ol es tote justa; tamen, en Ido > existas la vorti "olda" ed "anciena", e nun > me komencas pensar, ke en Ido (e forsan > anke en altra helpo-lingui), la justa formo > povus esar "ancien" vice "old" automobilo. > > Se "il prizas duktar nov automobili", semblas > ne-probabla, ke il posedas "old automobilo", > ma nur "ancien automobilo", quan il uzabas > dum, forsan, nur du, tri, quar o kin yari. > > Ka viajudike nia amiko vendis sua "olda", > o sua "anciena" automobilo? > > Vi omna juez maxim bona dio! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com > , > "postamundi" skribis: > > Estimata p_M-ani: > > Ka vi ja lektis od audis pri "Ling", > helpo-linguo qua kreesis da Suedo, > Anders Olson, en 1948? > > Ol aspektas quale sorto di Populido > (od adminime Bazal Populido), e me > pensabas propozar frazo skribita en > Ling por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden > altra LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #28: > > Ling: > Il am dukt nov auto, > e jer il vend se old auto. > > Ido: > Il prizas duktar nov automobili, > e hiere il vendis sua old automobilo. > > Ho, yes! Voluntez atencar, ke l'unesma parto > dil frazo en Ling interpretesas plurale (en Ido: > nov automobili, kontre ke l' duesma, singulare > (en Ido: old automobilo). > > Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pregas vi > tradukar nia frazo #28 aden Esperanto klasika, > Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Volap�k, > Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, ed irg altra > helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. > > Predanko ed adavane, kolegaro! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --------------000705020107090203090908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kvankam singularo tie povas havi gheneralan signifon, t.e. post tiu, li shatos stiri denove novan auton, mi modifos mian tradukon al pluralo,

Li shatas stiri novajn autojn,
kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan.

Kore

Le 09/03/2011 23:26, postamundi a écrit :
 

Bon jorno, Philippe!

Yen la tradukuro de nia frazo #28
aden Esperanto, tal qual ol aparas
en la Vikipedio Esperantal (che "Lingo"):

Li amas konduki novajn autojn,
kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan auton.

Me ja komentis, ke l'unesma parto dil frazo
en Ling interpretesas plurale, do "novajn autojn",
kontre ke l' duesma, singulare: "malnovan auton".

Se tu deziras chanjar ulo en tua suba versiono,
voluntez sendar a ni tua nova tradukuro, ma se
tu preferas tua hika versiono, me adjuntos ol
en la listo, tal qual tu sendabas ol a ni.

Danko e predanko pri tua kunlaboro.

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
Philippe Cousson skribi:

Esperanto

Li shatas stiri novan auton,
kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan.

La vorto malnova tute taugas.
en la dua parto, ripeti la vorton auto ne estas bezonate.

Tio iomete shanghas la signifon, sed la dua linio povus komenci per : do
anstatau kaj.

Kore
Philippe Cousson

Le 09/03/2011 12:05, postamundi a écrit :

Kar amiki:

Me konjektas ke en Ling la formo "old"
suficas ed ol es tote justa; tamen, en Ido
existas la vorti "olda" ed "anciena", e nun
me komencas pensar, ke en Ido (e forsan
anke en altra helpo-lingui), la justa formo
povus esar "ancien" vice "old" automobilo.

Se "il prizas duktar nov automobili", semblas
ne-probabla, ke il posedas "old automobilo",
ma nur "ancien automobilo", quan il uzabas
dum, forsan, nur du, tri, quar o kin yari.

Ka viajudike nia amiko vendis sua "olda",
o sua "anciena" automobilo?

Vi omna juez maxim bona dio!

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com
,
"postamundi" skribis:

Estimata p_M-ani:

Ka vi ja lektis od audis pri "Ling",
helpo-linguo qua kreesis da Suedo,
Anders Olson, en 1948?

Ol aspektas quale sorto di Populido
(od adminime Bazal Populido), e me
pensabas propozar frazo skribita en
Ling por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden
altra LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #28:

Ling:
Il am dukt nov auto,
e jer il vend se old auto.

Ido:
Il prizas duktar nov automobili,
e hiere il vendis sua old automobilo.

Ho, yes! Voluntez atencar, ke l'unesma parto
dil frazo en Ling interpretesas plurale (en Ido:
nov automobili, kontre ke l' duesma, singulare
(en Ido: old automobilo).

Se omno esas klara ed en ordino, me pregas vi
tradukar nia frazo #28 aden Esperanto klasika,
Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Volapük,
Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, ed irg altra
helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas.

Predanko ed adavane, kolegaro!

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

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Ido: Il prizas duktar nov automobili, e hiere il vendis sua ancien auto= mobilo. Ling: Il am dukt nov auto, e jer il vend se old auto. Sambahsa: = Is preiht wehghe nov autos, ed ghes is hat pohrnt sien veut auto. Simplit= : Il aprecia dukter nov automobiles, e hiere il vendav su old automobile. = Paqatyl: Xofmeket pa novai avto yle aimer. Noven avtot se sva yle hertym an= tkavper. Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #28 aden plusa LIA-siste= mi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Interlingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Volap= =FCk, Glosa, LFN, ed irg altra helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. 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Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=417836819; y=xuCZ_DFobhGOF-wH3V5DDegwZMfxNHJd4mXnobXSGzvikOjv6xY X-Yahoo-Profile: csolisr_azk X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system X-eGroups-Approved-By: qualevistandas via web; 10 Mar 2011 19:02:36 -0000 --bcaec51a7598317c3a049e256795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LdP: Lu pri dukti nove autos, e yeri lu vendi-te suy lao auto. - Carlos So= l=EDs 2011/3/10 postamundi > > > Estimata posta= _Mundi-ani: > > Yen nia frazo #28, tradukita, til nun, > aden la 6 sequanta= LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, Ido, Ling, Sambahsa, > Simplit, Paqatyl. > > Esp= eranto: > Li shatas stiri novajn autojn, > kaj hierau li vendis sian malnov= an. > > Ido: > Il prizas duktar nov automobili, > e hiere il vendis sua anc= ien automobilo. > > Ling: > Il am dukt nov auto, > e jer il vend se old aut= o. > > Sambahsa: > Is preiht wehghe nov autos, > ed ghes is hat pohrnt sien= veut auto. > > Simplit: > Il aprecia dukter nov automobiles, > e hiere il = vendav su old automobile. > > Paqatyl: > Xofmeket pa novai avto yle aimer. = > Noven avtot se sva yle hertym antkavper. > > Se posibla, voluntez traduka= r nia frazo #28 > aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, > Int= erlingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Volap=FCk, Glosa, > LFN, ed irg altra help= o-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. > > Adavane, amiki! > > * * * * * * * * >= p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > > --bcaec51a7598317c3a049e256795 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LdP:
Lu pri dukti nove autos,
e yeri lu vendi-te suy lao auto.
- Carlos Sol=EDs


2011= /3/10 postamundi <chepartaka@...>
=A0 =

Estimata posta_Mundi-ani= :

Yen nia frazo #28, tradukita, til nun,
aden la 6 sequanta LI= A-sistemi:
Esperanto, Ido, Ling, Sambahsa,
Simplit, Paqatyl.
Esperanto:
Li shatas stiri novajn autojn,
kaj hierau li vendis s= ian malnovan.

Ido:
Il prizas duktar nov automobili,
e hier= e il vendis sua ancien automobilo.

Ling:
Il am dukt nov auto,<= br> e jer il vend se old auto.

Sambahsa:
Is preiht wehghe nov= autos,
ed ghes is hat pohrnt sien veut auto.

Simplit:
Il= aprecia dukter nov automobiles,
e hiere il vendav su old automobile.
Paqatyl:
Xofmeket pa novai avto yle aimer.
Noven avtot se s= va yle hertym antkavper.

Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #= 28
aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue,
Interlingua,= Novial, Idiom Neutral, Volap=FCk, Glosa,
LFN, ed irg altra helpo-lingu= i neutra, quin vi konocas.

Adavane, amiki!

* * * * * * * = *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

=
=

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To: posta_mundi Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:31:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2011 19:31:33.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[C348E990:01CBDF59] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=6hbsq-CLNFsP6sgmFdYVVmi9ZmZ5vQjOVJ6oKfbIsew X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Novial: Lo prisa dukte nov automobile, e yer lo vendad sen ansien automobi= le. Kordialim From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7681 Return-Path: X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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Voluntez atencar nia frazo #28, qua ja tradukesis aden l= a 9 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Ling, Sambahsa, Simplit, = Paqatyl. LdP, Populido. Esperanto: Li shatas stiri novajn autojn, kaj hie= rau li vendis sian malnovan. Ido: Il prizas duktar nov automobili, e hiere= il vendis sua ancien automobilo. Novial: Lo prisa dukte nov automobile, e= yer lo vendad sen ansien automobile. Ling: Il am dukt nov auto, e jer il = vend se old auto. Sambahsa: Is preiht wehghe nov autos, ed ghes is hat poh= rnt sien veut auto. Simplit: Il aprecia dukter nov automobiles, e hiere il= vendav su old automobile. Paqatyl: Xofmeket pa novai avto yle aimer. Nove= n avtot se sva yle hertym antkavper. LdP: Lu pri dukti nove autos, e yeri = lu vendi-te suy lao auto. Populido: Il priz dukte nov auto's, e yer il ven= de sui ansien auto. Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #28 aden plus= a LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Interlingua, Idiom Neutral, Vola= p=FCk, Glosa, LFN, od irg altra helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. Dan= ko ed adavane, estimati! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7686 Return-Path: X-Sender: jlcossior@... 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Ke ol durez e durade= z. Kordiale JCR --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > Karega posta_Mundi-ani: > > Hodie, la 3ma= di marto 2011, ni celebras > la 5ma aniversario dil forumo posta_Mundi, > = qua naskis oficale ye l' 3ma di marto 2006. > > Nun-tempe, nia grupo dispo= nas 73 membri, > ed ol recevabas entote plu kam 7500 valida > mesaji dum su= a 5-yara vivo-tempo tilnuna. > > De hike, quale kustumale, me deziras dank= ar > e gratular nia tota membraro pro lua grava > kunlaboro, qua posibligas= la suceso dil forumo. > > Danko, gratuli ed adavane, posta_Mundi-ani! > = > Ni montrez quon ni facas e ni demonstrez qui ni esas! > > > P A R T A K= A > * * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7687 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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To: posta_mundi Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:37:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2011 12:37:28.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[15497220:01CBDFE9] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=TrBKx5PG4Vw3d0_HpqaNxsdsWLrTtKNgke_VFzxY4H4 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc > Novial: > Lo prisa dukte nov automobile, > e yer lo vendad sen ansien au= tomobile. Kara Partaka, Yen ke me hodie remarkas eroreto en mea tradu= kuro, nome en la unesma lineo, automobile devas esar automobileS. Hiere ve= spere me esis kelke fatigita.. Ma yen mem plusa posibleso, nome en Novial= Jespersen permisis "nedefinita nombro" sen finala vokalo, do yen du posibl= esi: Lo prisa dukte nov automobiles, e yer lo vendad sen ansien automob= ile. Lo prisa dukte nov automobil, e yer lo vendad sen ansien automobil= e. Kordialim From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7688 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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T= il balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogrou= ps.com, "Sonoriuxo" skribis: Bonega 5esma aniversario di = Posta Mundi, kara Partaka! Ke ol durez e duradez. Kordiale JCR --- En p= osta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: = Karega posta_Mundi-ani: Hodie, la 3ma di marto 2011, ni celebras la 5ma = aniversario dil forumo posta_Mundi, qua naskis oficale ye l' 3ma di marto 2= 006. Nun-tempe, nia grupo disponas 73 membri, ed ol recevabas entote plu = kam 7500 valida mesaji dum sua 5-yara vivo-tempo tilnuna. De hike, quale = kustumale, me deziras dankar e gratular nia tota membraro pro lua grava kun= laboro, qua posibligas la suceso dil forumo. Danko, gratuli ed adavane, p= osta_Mundi-ani! Ni montrez quon ni facas e ni demonstrez qui ni esas! = P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7689 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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En mea nexta listo, me volunte chanjos "nov automobile" a "= nov automobiles", se tu ne demandas de me l'altra versiono. Maxim kordial = saluto! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mu= ndi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler skribis: > Novial: > Lo= prisa dukte nov automobile, > e yer lo vendad sen ansien automobile. = Kara Partaka, Yen ke me hodie remarkas eroreto en mea tradukuro, nome e= n la unesma lineo, automobile devas esar automobileS. Hiere vespere me esi= s kelke fatigita.. Ma yen mem plusa posibleso, nome en Novial Jespersen = permisis "nedefinita nombro" sen finala vokalo, do yen du posiblesi: Lo = prisa dukte nov automobiles, e yer lo vendad sen ansien automobile. Lo p= risa dukte nov automobil, e yer lo vendad sen ansien automobile. Kord= ialim From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7690 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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Sendt fra min iPad Den 11. mars 2011 kl. 03:20 skrev "postamundi"= : > Bon jorno, mondo! > > Voluntez atencar nia f= razo #28, qua ja > tradukesis aden la 9 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > Esperanto, = Ido, Novial, Ling, Sambahsa, > Simplit, Paqatyl. LdP, Populido. > > Espera= nto: > Li shatas stiri novajn autojn, > kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan.= > > Ido: > Il prizas duktar nov automobili, > e hiere il vendis sua ancie= n automobilo. > > Novial: > Lo prisa dukte nov automobile, > e yer lo vend= ad sen ansien automobile. > > Ling: > Il am dukt nov auto, > e jer il vend= se old auto. > > Sambahsa: > Is preiht wehghe nov autos, > ed ghes is hat= pohrnt sien veut auto. > > Simplit: > Il aprecia dukter nov automobiles, = > e hiere il vendav su old automobile. > > Paqatyl: > Xofmeket pa novai av= to yle aimer. > Noven avtot se sva yle hertym antkavper. > > LdP: > Lu pri= dukti nove autos, > e yeri lu vendi-te suy lao auto. > > Populido: > Il p= riz dukte nov auto's, > e yer il vende sui ansien auto. > > Se posibla, vo= luntez tradukar nia frazo #28 > aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Inte= rlingue, > Interlingua, Idiom Neutral, Volap=C3=BCk, Glosa, LFN, > od irg = altra helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. > > Danko ed adavane, estimati= ! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --Apple-Mail-13--567477807 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
ARIEL:
Ile se diverta guidar= autos nove
Ed heri ile vendeva su auto vetule.

Linco Nostri:
Ilo si tivirto coitor otos novis
= It iri ilo vintivo si oto vitoli.

Sendt fra min iPad

D= en 11. mars 2011 kl. 03:20 skrev "postamundi" <chepartaka@...>:

 

Bon jorno, mondo!
Voluntez atencar nia frazo #28, qua ja
tradukesis aden la 9 sequ= anta LIA-sistemi:
Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Ling, Sambahsa,
Simplit, = Paqatyl. LdP, Populido.

Esperanto:
Li shatas stiri novajn auto= jn,
kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan.

Ido:
Il prizas duk= tar nov automobili,
e hiere il vendis sua ancien automobilo.

N= ovial:
Lo prisa dukte nov automobile,
e yer lo vendad sen ansien au= tomobile.

Ling:
Il am dukt nov auto,
e jer il vend se old = auto.

Sambahsa:
Is preiht wehghe nov autos,
ed ghes is hat= pohrnt sien veut auto.

Simplit:
Il aprecia dukter nov automob= iles,
e hiere il vendav su old automobile.

Paqatyl:
Xofmek= et pa novai avto yle aimer.
Noven avtot se sva yle hertym antkavper.
LdP:
Lu pri dukti nove autos,
e yeri lu vendi-te suy lao aut= o.

Populido:
Il priz dukte nov auto's,
e yer il vende sui = ansien auto.

Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #28
aden = plusa LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue,
Interlingua, Idiom Neutr= al, Volap=C3=BCk, Glosa, LFN,
od irg altra helpo-lingui neutra, quin v= i konocas.

Danko ed adavane, estimati!

* * * * * * * * p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

=
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Pardona me! Io oblidava ce tu acsepta solmente un lingue per p= erson. Naturalmente io selecte ARIEL como mi favorite. Como tu comprende l= e Linco Nostri es un ecsperimente ubi io permita non plus ce 12 literes viz= : C I L M N O P R S T V X. Con salutes cordial. Sendt fra min iPad Den 11= . mars 2011 kl. 20:02 skrev "postamundi" : > Hola,= Osmund! > > Quale tu bone savas, me darfas inkluzar > en mea listo nur un= de tua helpo-lingui. > > Voluntez dicar a me, ka tu preferas ARIEL > o Li= nco Nostri, e me quik adjuntos ol. > > Altra-latere, se tu kapablesas trad= ukar > nia frazo #28 anke aden Interlingua > (LIA-sistemo, quan tu certe st= udiabas), > tante plu bona, ka ne? > > Standez bone, amiko! > > * * * * *= * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogro= ups.com, > Osmund Aukland skribis: > > ARIEL: > Ile se dive= rta guidar autos nove > Ed heri ile vendeva su auto vetule. > > Linco Nost= ri: > Ilo si tivirto coitor otos novis > It iri ilo vintivo si oto vitoli. = > > > --Apple-Mail-14--545577474 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car Partaka!
Pardona me! Io = oblidava ce tu acsepta solmente un lingue per person. Naturalmente io selec= te  ARIEL como mi favorite. Como tu comprende le Linco Nostri es un ec= sperimente ubi io permita non plus ce 12 literes viz: C I L M N O P R S T V= X.
Con salutes cordial.

Sendt fra min iPad

= Den 11. mars 2011 kl. 20:02 skrev "postamundi" <chepartaka@...>:

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
 

Hola, Osmund!
<= br> Quale tu bone savas, me darfas inkluzar
en mea listo nur un de tua = helpo-lingui.

Voluntez dicar a me, ka tu preferas ARIEL
o Linc= o Nostri, e me quik adjuntos ol.

Altra-latere, se tu kapablesas tr= adukar
nia frazo #28 anke aden Interlingua
(LIA-sistemo, quan tu ce= rte studiabas),
tante plu bona, ka ne?

Standez bone, amiko!
* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

--= - En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
Osmund = Aukland skribis:

ARIEL:
Ile se diverta gui= dar autos nove
Ed heri ile vendeva su auto vetule.

Linco Nost= ri:
Ilo si tivirto coitor otos novis
It iri ilo vintivo si oto vito= li.


       salutos, pu isula rosto (ou sinplamente: sal= utos, rosto).

   =    mio komencon, oji, dicundo ke mio konsideran seriosamente kre= ar una nova listo ou foro sur helpoplanlinguologio, simila ba la listo tesa= IALlist, ma sin espamo ni pornografio. naturamente, eksistun ninkuna censu= ro de ideos ou de linguos, ei las mesajos multikopiatas ou resendatas desde= altras lokos senpre esun aceptatas. la nova foro esun una foro para la dis= kutasiono cienca ei dispasionata sur las kualesos de las helpoplanlinguos.<= /span>

       = menan mio dicon algo sur la presenta supo de siglos ou de abreviaturos para= designar las euroklonos. ultra la obskureso de tantas siglos (abreviaturos= ) la fakto decidiva esan ke mio non konsideran rekomendabla la evitasiono d= e una parolo tanto klara kuanto "euroklono", solamente prokue alkunos usan = despektivamente kuesta parolo.

       la parolo "euroklono" designan de modo ojeti= va, valorativamente neutra, pe las helpoplanlinguos kon vokabularo, fonetis= mo, ortografio, morfologio ei sintakso de inspirasiono europokcidenta, adek= uatamente regulata ei sinplata. las kontinuas atakos, insultos ou superfica= s diskalifikasionos kontra las euroklonos non obskuran la evidenta fakto ma= ter ke kuesta modelo, la modelo euroklona, esan la modelo klasika de las he= lpoplanlinguos. la aceptasiono de kuesta modelo por las klientos de helpopl= anlinguos esan la fakto eksperimenta tre superiora kuanto la uso "despektiv= a" de kuesta termino.

 = ;      en la futuro, las preferesos de las klientos de eurok= lonos posiblamente xanjon, ui, ma en la presento ono devan necesamente esti= mar ke kuasi totas las usantos de helpoplanlinguos interkomunikan preferant= amente via euroklonos.

&nbs= p;      dentro las euroklonos komo modelo cienca eksperiment= a (mu sin ideo interna, sin ideologio etika ou kultura interna!) eksistan a= ltra aspekto inportanta, malgre obskurata fa la introduciono de ideos inter= nas ou ideologios into multas euroklonos: ke eksistan ninkuna bariero dific= ilamente traspasabla inter la euroklono ei altras modelos de helpoplanlingu= os, komo las helpoplanlinguos eslaveskas. eksenplamente tuo, komo parolanto= fluanta de la rusiko, posiblan estimar direktamente las kualesos de la esl= oviko komo linguo intereslava, ma kuesto non esan afirmar una abismo absolu= ta inter la modelo intereslava ei la modelo euroklona.

       prokue dentro la ik= uso, una euroklono, eksistan eksenplamente la dialekto nominata "eslavikuso= ", kualo enkorpan masivamente pe vokabularo eslava. la eslavikuso estan en = kontinuo komunikativa kon altras dialektos de la ikuso, ei la ikuso plus us= ata, la "ikuso neutra", enkorpan eslavismos komo "glasnosto" (transparento)= ou "mojar" (posiblar). inoltre eksistan la "ikuso distribuata", la "mondop= anto", dialekto kualo tenan una foro propria (http://es.groups.yahoo.= com/group/mondopanto/). la vokabularo de la mo= ndopanto esan, komo la vokabularo de la lingwodeplanetiko, una vokabularo k= ualo priman nukleamente pe las radikos semantikas orijinatas ekster isa eur= opo okcidenta.

   = ;    una bona helpoplanlinguo esan sinplamente una baso konfortab= la para ke las parolantos adaptun la helpoplanlinguo ta suas necesos komuni= kativas. se la baso esan tre mala, komo la vokabularo opaka de la volapuko,= la adaptasiono inplikon una rupturo tanto radika kuanto para obskurar la p= rofitimento de altras rasgos bonas de la helpoplanlinguo konsiderata, komo = la eufonio (bonsonoreso) de la volapuko. por kueso eksistan reformantos ser= iosas de la esperanto desde la esperanto, ou de la novialo desde la novialo= , ma las reformantos seriosas de la volapuko krein... la idiomo neutrala, l= ojikamente; una (bona) euroklono kon vokabularo kuasi konpletamente diferan= ta dis la volapuko. la idiomo neutrala obskurin algo la bona eufonio ou fon= otaksio de la volapuko, aspekto pe kualo mio desiran rekuperar via una idio= mo neutrala mejorata. ma aki la adaptasiono non inplikan una rupturo, sino = una kontinueso evolutiva: eis la idealo. ono posiblan mejorar la idiomo neu= trala desde la mesma idiomo neutrala.

       mio dican ei redican ke, dentro la he= lpoplanlinguologio, nosos devan evitar las "kulturos", "ideologios", "valor= os" ou "ideos internas", limitundo pe nosos ba las resultatos eksperimentas= plus aptas para la komunikasiono facila internaciona inter las uomos sin l= inguo teritoria komuna.

&nb= sp;      segon kuesta nuanco, la ikuso non tenan ni tenon, e= i devan evitar, pe la "tradiciono", malgre eto devan aceptar ei adoptar las= mejorasionos provenantas desde las observasionos enpirikas ei las resultat= os eksperimentas. la sistemo mensuranta internaciona ou la tabulo atoma fa = isulo mendeleyefo esan una bona modelo para isto: kuestas sistemos funciona= n sin seudorelijiono interna ei enkorpan kontinuamente las mejorasionos suj= estionatas fa las resultatos eksperimentas.

       under kuesta espirito, mio kons= ideron menan kelkas rasgos novojas de la ikuso dentro las euroklonos.

       la ma= najimento ortografia de la konbinasiono tien konsonanto nasala plus konsona= nto labia non nasala esan, historiamente, una konpleta kaoso dentro las eur= oklonos. formos komo "edinburgo", "edimburgo", "hanburgero", "hamburgero", = "konforto", "komforto" ei multas altras okasionos kausan kontinuas dubidos = purse komo eskribar en talas okasionos. la realeso fonetika esan ke la pron= uncasiono nasala esan aki semilabia ou tre labia; ei las resultatos eksperi= mentas konfirman ke para kuestas okasionos las helpoplanlinguos devun evita= r distingasionos (plus teorias kuanto praktikas fonetikamente) komo la dist= ingasiono de la esperanto inter "manpreno" ei "mampreno". donke, dentro la = ikuso, la formo "komplikata" tenan la mesma pronuncasiono ei signifo kuanto= la formo "konplikata". dentro la ikuso neutra, por komodeso ortografia, on= o rekomendan eskribar senpre la letro "n" inves la letro "m" en talas okasi= onos. ma, eske formos komo "sempre" ou "kompleta" esan formos prohibatas de= ntro la ikuso? non, prokue la neutrasiono fonetika en talas okasionos (una = sola protofonemo nasala inves duas fonemos nasalas diferantas en oponasiono= semantika mutua) kausan ninkuna problemo de konprenasiono. la eskribanto p= osiblan ei diritan praktikar una longa tradiciono ortografia dentro las lin= guos europokcidentas, tradiciono kualo preferan eskribar la letro "m" en la= s grupos "mb" ei "mp", ma non senpre en las grupos "mf" ei "mv".

=

       la manaji= mento ortografia de la sonoro "k" dentro la ikuso neutra esan estriktamente= fonetika. en kontrasto, dentro euroklonos sea naturistas sea regulistas, k= uesta sonoro aparan tipamente kon kuatras formos grafikas: "c", "k", "q" ei= , partamente, "x" (=3D "ks"). ma la ortografio konpletamente fonetika de la= ikuso neutra eskriban formos komo "cokolato" inves "chocolato", "sekso" in= ves "sexo"... ei "kuesta" inves "questa". la letro "x", en ikuso neutra, so= noran komo la digrafo "sh" en la angliko ou en la ido. ansi, la faxismo non= esan la tendenco ba sendar faksos (faksismo) sino la tendenco politika bel= ikista ei totalitarista fa isula benito musolinio ei sua partito politika i= tala, ou fa movimentos politikamente similas, en italiko kon altra ortograf= io ma kon la mesma pronuncasiono: "fascismo".

<= span class=3Drvts6>        la ajetivo ou pronomo demost= rativa "kuesto" (kuesto, kuesta, kuestos, kuestas) de la ikuso esan una for= mo konpletamente tradiciona dentro las euroklonos, konkretamente prendata d= esde la italiko. la ortografio de la italiko aki esan "questo".

=

       la demanda= siono fa novialistos, idistos, okcidentalistos, interlinguaistos ei altros = esun: eske por kualo non usar la letro "c", la difono "x" ei la digrafo "qu= " para respektar la ortografio europokcidenta tradiciona? mio respondan ke = la lekturasiono silenca de talas formos esan aceptabla ei non kausan proble= mos seriosas de konprenasiono, ma la eskribasiono aktiva ei la pronuncasion= o en voiso alta de tekstos ansi eskribatas provokan problemos inportantas. = primo, la eskribanto non kutumata ba kuesta tetragrafismo de la sonoro "k" = devan memorar kapricojamente multas formos grafikas; adicionamente, ono fre= kuentamente dubidan en la grupo "qu" se la litero "u" esan muta ou pronunca= ta (jeneralamente komo semivokalo: "w"). ou ono dubidon purse la letro "c" = tenan sea la valoro fonetika de "k" sea de altras sonoros (principalamente,= "s" ou la digrafo "ch" de la angliko, la espaniko ei la ido). en resumo: k= uesta poligrafismo esan tro konplikata, especialamente para uomos kios, ink= luso konocundo la ortografio de alfabeto latina, komo las parolantos de pol= oniko ou de indonesiko, non tenan bagraundo ortografia para kuestas arkaika= s formos europokcidentas. se alkuno desiran usar una ortografio ansi dentro= la ikuso, avante, ui, ma las altras parolantos non estan obligatas pro obe= dar pe eto.

    =    donke, mio eskriban la formo "kuesta" inves "questa". ma, sego= n mio, dentro la ikuso las demostrativos "isto, istos, ista, istas" esan pe= rfektamente aceptablas inoltre, komo sinonimos. la formo "istos" posiblan k= ausar alkuna konfusasiono kon la triesma pronomo persona plurala, "itos", m= a mio non opinan ke kuesa konfusasiono esun frekuenta. en la ikuso, la demo= strativo "kuesa" indikan una majora lontaneso kuanto la demostrativo "kuest= a", plus proksima. las artikulos, las pronomos personas de triesma persono = ei las demostrativos, dentro la ikuso, tenan orijino neolatina; ma, precisa= mente por isto, suas formos devan esar suficantamente diferantas para non e= sar konfusatos mutuamente. altra soluciono esun usar formos non neolatinas = para alkunas parolos tanto frekuentas de ista tipo.

       la esperanto, tradicio= namente, evitin ista tetragrafismo, ei sua esklusiva uso de la letro "k" no= n presentin problemos inportantas, eske ui?

       las preposicionos "pu" (vokati= vo), "pe" (akusativo) ei "ga" (nominativo) esan eskarsamente usatas en la i= kuso, ma itos eksistan para evitar frasos anbiguas. las artikulos de nomino= propra adaptata, "isa", ou de nomino non adaptata, "tesa", estan en simila= situasiono: ono frekuentamente omisan itas artikulos, ma, para precisar ke= la nomino esan propra, ou ke una nomino non obedan la ortografio ei las re= gulos formas de la ikuso, ou para precisar la jenero gramatika de una nomin= o propra, pe kuestas artikulos ono usan, en konbinasiono kon las sufiksos d= e jenero "ul" (maskula) ei "in" (femina).

       la non desirabla tradiciono fiks= ista de la esperanto ou la okcidentaliko, disgraciatamente, instigan pe mul= tos ba operar similamente, kon fiksismo, kuando itos observan la ikuso. ma = itos diritan modifikar direktamente la ikuso. se itos desiran komunikar, pe= kueso itos fagon.

  =      mio pensan ke, menan, mio devun donar eksenplo de kuest= as intencionos, eis, de primar la komunikasiono efektiva super la purismo l= inguistika ou super la espekulasiono teoria. donke, una mesajo sur una afer= o de fondo, sur una afero non relativa ba la ikuso ni ba las linguos helpan= tas planatas esun oportuna... ei utila. komo minimo, isto lancun la atendas= iono de mias lekturantos sur mias ideos, inves las formos linguistikas pe k= ualos mio uson.

  &nb= sp;    ei, se la ikuso tenan alkuna ideologio, tala ideologio ou = ideo interna esan ke la komunikasiono efektiva esan la unika afero inportan= ta dentro las helpoplanlinguos, inkluso se para kueso ono devan ronpar form= amente las regulos ortografias, gramatikas, semantikas, ecetera.

=

       donke, pr= oksimamente nosos visionon pe nosos mutuamente, non sur la ortografio, sur = la fonotaksio (estilo de pronuncasiono) ou sur la gramatiko, sino sur la po= sibleso de una demokratio autentika. mio non parolon sur linguologio, sino = sur filosofologio (filosofio) politika.

       amikamente ei til pronto, alexandr= o xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@yahoo punto es (trigrupo arobo = yahoo punto es).



       ----- mesajo orijina -----<= /span>


&= nbsp;      Kara Alexandre! Mi konsenti pri abreviaturas, ist= e es mei kulpe. Mi devud skribar "ALOE (Auxiliar Linguas Oxident-Europan)",= kun klarifiko, quale tu yuste korektiv me.

       Mi tamen have tote altra vidpun= kte a europocentrisme e demokrateso de euroklones, o quale mi vud dice, ALO= ik (ALOa, ALOi, ALOal) linguas (Mi lektav, que li termine "euroklon" es reg= ardat da kelkas quam pejorativ, e pro to mi pena inventer plu respektoza te= rmine.)

     = ;  Nulqui kulpiza Slovio o Slovianski, que it es slavo-centrik, o Folk= spraak, que it is germano-centrik, o Romanica, que it es romano-centrik. De= komense iste es li interna id=E9as de ta linguas.

       Mi regarda linguas eurok= lonik (ALOik) quam de komense okcident-europani. Iste es lesi interna id=E9= a. 

    &nbs= p;  Lingwa de Planeta kolekta paroles de diversa lingual familias - ch= inik, slavik, arabik... Iste es un altra id=E9a.

       Un home darfa preferar ta = o altra id=E9a. Mi ipsa aprecia okupar me pri euroklones. Iste sembla a me = interesant.

    &= nbsp;  Ma qui darfa decider, quo es plu bona por omna munde, e quo no = es? Noi darfa prognozar, que euroklones have maxim granda potencialum eser = maxim uzat in li munde quam Lingua Internacional Auxiliari.

       O forsan Lingua= de Planeta have maxim granda potencialum. O forsan ni tum ni altrum. Ma is= te darfa eser nur nosi prognozes.

       Diskurso pri tum, ka euroklonik id=E9a = es demokratik o no, tal diskurso no have sense.

       Euroklones bezona propra id= enteso por evolucionar plu in su propra direkcione. Euroklones ja existent = e uzat, nun o in pasatum, quale Esperanto, Idiom Neutral, Ido, Occidental, = Novial e Interlingua e anque INTAL o forsan alquel plus, iste es un parte d= e identeso, iste es li tradicione.

       Interlinguistika es no nur un sciento e= xperimental, ma iste es anque un kultura, quel bezona su tradicione. E inte= rlinguistika quam sciento quankam partim es un sciento experimental, ma anq= ue iste es un sciento quale kulturologia, quel studia kulturas ja existent.= On pova experimentar kun subkulturas quale hipi, pank, metal, gotika o emo= , ma precipua subjekto de kulturologia es kulturas tradicional.

=

       Skribar "se= mpre" o "kompleta" es tradicional, e "senpre" o "konpleta" es non-tradicion= al.

      &n= bsp;"Chi tia", "ica", "ti ci", "iste" es tradicional, "kuesta" es non-tradi= cional.

     = ;  Yen, mi questiona, qual es valor de tal experimentes, pro quo on po= va bezonar tal experimentes?

       Por me sembla, que Ikuso es un suficiante saja= reforme de Esperanto, e it es plu saja quam it aspekte de prim regardo. Ma= pro kelka exotik elementes quale "pu isula" homes no vide de prim regardo,= quo es Ikuso e rapide perde interese.

       Rosto.

<= br>

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=ifywNwC0SmbD75b5H3biMkun3WEey4tJuSNlN47KdDVliIsRnLbiQJUTu1R5 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Saluto, Alexandro! Mio desidin skribar hike en mia versiono de Ikuso, kual= e mio komprendan isto. La skribsistemo de Ikuso semblan esar identa al skri= bsistemo de Idiom Neutral, eseptamente ke Neutral usan la digrafo sh vise x= de Ikuso. Pri interslavas linguos - Kom slavo mio no volan ni Slavikuso n= i Slovio. Omnas slavas linguos havan suficamente simila gramatiko por ke us= ar ista komuna gramatiko e non inventar alkun artifisiala gramatiko. Linguo= s kuale Slovianski o Slovioski esan maxim apta. Anke mio suspektan, ke Roma= nica o simila ekstremamente naturalista linguo es maxim bona kam inter-roma= na. Euroklonos esan altra kaso. Euroklono devan havar non solamente romanas= elementos, ma anke sufica parto de germanas elementos. La gramatiko darfas= esar nur konstruktita, forsan plu, forsan min proksima a naturalas gramati= kos. Slavos o romanos o germanos por sentar se kom un populo slava o romana= o germana ya plu besonan alkun ideologio plu kam komuna linguo. La komuna = linguo ja preske eksistan. Euroklonos esan altra kaso. Kvankam europosentra= , bona euroklono esan suficamente neutrala por donar posibleso a irgas homo= s parolantas en ta linguo sentar se kuale un populo. Non-euroklonos anke p= ovan donar to, e la kuestiono, kuo es plu bona, eske euroklonos o non-eurok= lonos, restan aperta. Homos, kel plu apresian euroklonos, okupan se pri eur= oklonos. Kel preferan non-euroklonos, okupan se pri non-euroklonos. Isto si= mplamente dependan de libera selekto. Pri "kuesto". Quankam ista "kuesto" = esan prendita del Itala linguo, tuo non darfan dicar, ke isto esan prendit= a de euroklonos, pro ke, ya, la Itala linguo non esan euroklono! Rosto. = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7707 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Ma pos 9 de mart no plu mesajes til nun es. Anque che Ipernity no l= ogin esev pos 9 de mart. Li komensal tremores in Japonia esev ye 9 de mart,= de forteso 7,2, quale esev dicet, sin viktimes. E posim, ye 11 de mart ese= v ta sismo de forteso 8,9 kauzant tsunami e multa dizastre. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7708 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Pri l'amiko Bebson Hochfeld (Takata), voluntez lektar me= sajo, quan Jean Martignon transmisis hiere aden plura Ido-forumi. Ni esper= ez ke BYT e sua familio standas bone, e ke li trovesas kom sana e sekura. = http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan/message/10255 Danko pro = tua e-letro. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoog= roups.com, "r0st0" skribis: Bebson Hochfeld kon= stante duktav su pajine che Twitter, kelka mesajes in kata die. Ma pos 9 de= mart no plu mesajes til nun es. Anque che Ipernity no login esev pos 9 de = mart. Li komensal tremores in Japonia esev ye 9 de mart, de forteso 7,2, qu= ale esev dicet, sin viktimes. E posim, ye 11 de mart esev ta sismo de forte= so 8,9 kauzant tsunami e multa dizastre. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7709 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25361 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2011 13:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2011 13:48:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2011 13:48:49 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2011 13:48:49 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2011 13:48:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:48:49 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=Wh887yhOqeiFr8lPzfNSThqXgKUSIjqU0uLYycCagw8GdonU35D9w4w X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki: Me ipsa probos tradukar nia frazo #28 aden Mondlango/Ulango, ma= voluntez korektigar me, kaze ke me erorus. Mondlango/Ulango: Hi aman driv= i nova awtos, ay hiere hi vendin hia disyuna awto. Kad omno korekta ibe? = Se yes, me adjuntos tal tradukuro en mea nexta listo. Me pregas vi helpar = tradukar nia frazo #28 aden Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Idiom Neut= ral, Glosa, LFN, edc. Vi omna juez bona sundio! * * * * * * * * p a r t= a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi"= skribis: > > Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: > > Voluntez iter= e admirar nia frazo #28, qua ja > tradukesis aden la 10 sequanta LIA-sistem= i: > Esperanto, Ido, Novial, Ling, Sambahsa, > Simplit, ARIEL, Paqatyl, LdP= , Populido. > > > Esperanto: > Li shatas stiri novajn autojn, > kaj hiera= u li vendis sian malnovan. > > Ido: > Il prizas duktar nov automobili, > e= hiere il vendis sua ancien automobilo. > > Novial: > Lo prisa dukte nov a= utomobiles, > e yer lo vendad sen ansien automobile. > > Ling: > Il am duk= t nov auto, > e jer il vend se old auto. > > Sambahsa: > Is preiht wehghe = nov autos, > ed ghes is hat pohrnt sien veut auto. > > Simplit: > Il aprec= ia dukter nov automobiles, > e hiere il vendav su old automobile. > > ARIE= L: > Ile se diverta guidar autos nove > Ed heri ile vendeva su auto vetule.= > > Paqatyl: > Xofmeket pa novai avto yle aimer. > Noven avtot se sva yle= hertym antkavper. > > LdP: > Lu pri dukti nove autos, > e yeri lu vendi-t= e suy lao auto. > > Populido: > Il priz dukte nov auto's, > e yer il vende= sui ansien auto. > > > Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #28 > ade= n plusa LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, > Interlingua, Idiom Neutr= al, Volap=FCk, Neo, Glosa, LFN, > Mondlango(Ulango, od irg altra helpo-ling= ui neutra, > quin vi konocas. > > Adavane, amiki! > > > * * * * * * * *= > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7710 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Received: (qmail 87661 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2011 17:48:16 -0000 Message-ID: <729223.66237.qm@...> X-YMail-OSG: sxfr_54VM1l34EEqfLsr5gsbpMrRwalBnRPyXXw72P2PZvW tb7u1wo35OOV4_Kve4zgFNebcXaBpM4yhVwWEQ0j34YSZRRQAmpRCKEOHXVd ilQAZmDDb1V5JvGYFjQ01ID4CeNcZ5jOiHV8R_vN2q4IPymOt4Z76PPdK1_0 HghnqiH7cGeKVsV3BS4KWYB1quF63FZp_cxKNd4Uf6KSs9EHPuy3Y.G8oHL_ ElM4H3yrQ1M9YOmVFzHQPad1OwyjbK3NulAP.hwN4tziz3dEchhWlUTsKpwe 12Uhj2hN8k78mbn7Qhn6mxDe2SXeEhk4- X-Received: from [95.122.77.160] by web28202.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:48:16 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <6070659.76557.1300035682384.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d18> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:48:16 +0000 (GMT) To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <6070659.76557.1300035682384.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d18> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-171805739-1300038496=:66237" From: Ila Mesajero Subject: [JAPONIA] La katastrofo en la regiono Kanto X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=-sRAnzMCaYhAU4UoF7O0c_RQ_bG4JT5VYOwo8bxbnBaW1E-DR3ny X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero --0-171805739-1300038496=:66237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Mesajo da Jean Martignon, che plura Ido-forumi) Segun la maxim recent= a informi, la habitantaro dil regiono Kanto, proxim la atomala fabrikerio = ube eventis explozo, mustos evakuesar. Per serchar che la interreto, me ko= nstatis ke nia samideano Takata, qua habitas la distrikto Tochigi (olqua e= sas en la regiono Kanto) mustos evakuesar. Nia amiko subisis recente opera= co. Ico esis dum tre neoportuna periodo. Me esperas ke il sucesos eskapar = e de la problemi ligita a lua operaco e de la radioaktiveso. Suciozega salu= ti. JM :::-::: --0-171805739-1300038496=:66237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Segun la max= im recenta informi, la habitantaro dil regiono Kanto, proxim la atomal= a fabrikerio ube eventis explozo, mustos evakuesar. Per serchar che la inte= rreto, me konstatis ke nia samideano Takata, qua habitas la distrikto Tochi= gi (olqua esas en la regiono Kanto) mustos evakuesar. Nia amiko subisis rec= ente operaco. Ico esis dum tre neoportuna periodo. Me esperas ke il sucesos= eskapar e de la problemi ligita a lua operaco e de la radioaktiveso.
Su= ciozega saluti. JM :::-:::


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=kMX2NJkmVP6OGPd7PfxZf-MWPo_wCgtbPUxDhH7akjDDBFg X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------2E4913310D027AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable salutos, pu isula (ou isina) lingwadeplaneto. mio aceptan la koncepto und= er la linguodeplanetiko. ma mio non aceptan la ideo interna otur la linguod= eplanetiko, mio non aceptan la eslogano "pro la unueso de la uomalo". mio t= anpoko aceptan la fakta kontrolo ultima de la linguo fa petita grupo format= a esencamente de rusanos. mio tanpoko aceptan la deklarasiono de fiksismo f= agata recentamente fa kuesas mesmas rusanos. duas signos mostran klarament= e pe la "linguodeplanetikismo", la ideologio ou ideo interna kualo danan pe= la linguodeplanetiko komo istrumento de komunikasiono. primo, la grupo de= yahuo sur ista linguo (http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/lingwadeplaneta/) = tenan censuro previa: las mesajos non posiblan aparar direktamente pos sua = sendasiono (esceptatos las mesajos fa las manajantos ei suas amikos, natura= mente). inoltre, la sendanto de la anteriora mesajo donan komo nomino sua.= .. unikamente la nomino de la propria linguo, eis, tesa Lingwa de Planeta. = donke, elo ou ejo manifestan, en klara lapsuso froyda (de isula froydo, tes= ula Freud) ke elo ou ejo konsideran pe suo komo la esenco de la propria lin= guodeplanetiko. kon kuestas manifestasionos nosos estan ba alkunas eskarsa= s pasos de la "netusxebla fundamento" de la esperanto, de la adorasiono pe = santa zamenhofo kon ikonos suas en las klubos esperantistas ei de himnos re= lijionas komo "la espero", menan redaktatas via la lingwodeplanetiko... pr= obablamente, la eskapo dis kuesta non desirabla situasiono esan la fundasio= no de grupo fa disidantos (disopiniantos) kios ronpun la sociasiono de la l= inguodeplanetiko kun alkuna idealo etika ou politika, kios afirmon ke la li= nguodeplanetiko non tenan guruos absolutas ni fundamentos non modifikablas,= ei kios afirmon ke la proposito fundamenta de la linguodeplanetiko esan, s= inplamente, interkomunikar facilamente pe individuos de la mondo konpleta s= in linguo teritoria komuna. isto esan dicato... ei fagato. eis nova grupo= para tesa Lingwa de Planeta en isa yahuo: Lingwa de Planeta - Samizdat, ku= ja nomo esan prendata en rememorasiono de las samizdatos (panfletos disidan= tas) de la epoko sovieta en isa rusijo. adreso de la nova grupo: http://es= .groups.yahoo.com/group/linguadeplanetasamizdat/ deskribasiono de la nova = grupo: Samizdat de Lingwa de Planeta. amikamente, fa isula alexandro xavi= ero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto = es). ----- mesajo orijina ----- > Lingwa de Planeta kolekta paroles de = diversa lingual familias - chinik, slavik, arabik... Iste es un altra id=E9= a. ... > O forsan Lingwa de Planeta have maxim granda potencialum. Ya,= ya, naturalem. :) Lingwa de Planeta. ------------2E4913310D027AE Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial?

       salutos, pu isula (o= u isina) lingwadeplaneto.

=        mio aceptan la koncepto under la linguodeplanet= iko. ma mio non aceptan la ideo interna otur la linguodeplanetiko, mio non = aceptan la eslogano "pro la unueso de la uomalo". mio tanpoko aceptan la fa= kta kontrolo ultima de la linguo fa petita grupo formata esencamente de rus= anos. mio tanpoko aceptan la deklarasiono de fiksismo fagata recentamente f= a kuesas mesmas rusanos.

=        duas signos mostran klaramente pe la "linguodepl= anetikismo", la ideologio ou ideo interna kualo danan pe la linguodeplaneti= ko komo istrumento de komunikasiono.

       primo, la grupo de yahuo sur ista li= nguo (= http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/lingwadeplaneta/)= tenan censuro previa: las mesajos non posiblan aparar direktamente pos sua= sendasiono (esceptatos las mesajos fa las manajantos ei suas amikos, natur= amente).

    &n= bsp;  inoltre, la sendanto de la anteriora mesajo donan komo nomino su= a... unikamente la nomino de la propria linguo, eis, tesa Lingwa de Planeta= . donke, elo ou ejo manifestan, en klara lapsuso froyda (de isula froydo, t= esula Freud) ke elo ou ejo konsideran pe suo komo la esenco de la propria l= inguodeplanetiko.

  =      kon kuestas manifestasionos nosos estan ba alkunas eska= rsas pasos de la "netusxebla fundamento" de la esperanto, de la adorasiono = pe santa zamenhofo kon ikonos suas en las klubos esperantistas ei de himnos= relijionas komo "la espero", menan redaktatas via la lingwodeplanetiko...<= /span>

      &nbs= p;probablamente, la eskapo dis kuesta non desirabla situasiono esan la fund= asiono de grupo fa disidantos (disopiniantos) kios ronpun la sociasiono de = la linguodeplanetiko kun alkuna idealo etika ou politika, kios afirmon ke l= a linguodeplanetiko non tenan guruos absolutas ni fundamentos non modifikab= las, ei kios afirmon ke la proposito fundamenta de la linguodeplanetiko esa= n, sinplamente, interkomunikar facilamente pe individuos de la mondo konple= ta sin linguo teritoria komuna.

       isto esan dicato... ei fagato.

=

       eis nova= grupo para tesa Lingwa de Planeta en isa yahuo: Lingwa de Planeta - Samizd= at, kuja nomo esan prendata en rememorasiono de las samizdatos (panfletos d= isidantas) de la epoko sovieta en isa rusijo.

<= span class=3Drvts26>        adreso de la nova grupo: ht= tp://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/linguadeplanetasamizdat/

       deskribasiono de = la nova grupo: Samizdat de Lingwa de Planeta.

<= span class=3Drvts26>

=        amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo = domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


<= span class=3Drvts26>        ----- mesajo orijina -----<= /span>


       > Lingwa de Pl= aneta kolekta paroles de diversa lingual familias - chinik, slavik, arabik.= .. Iste es un altra id=E9a.

       ...

       > O forsan Lingwa de Planeta have = maxim granda potencialum. 


    =    Ya, ya, naturalem. :)

       Lingwa de Planeta.


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Kara amiki,

la Ido-Amiki Berlin publikigis la kayeri de Ido= -Saluto! di la yaro 2009 kom PDF-dokumennti:

La kompleta quar kayer= i en un dokumento:
http://= www.idoamiki.berlin.idolinguo.de/pdf/Ido-Saluto-2009-kompleta.pdf
<= br> la singla kayeri:
http://www= .idoamiki.berlin.idolinguo.de/pdf/Ido-Saluto-2009-01.pdf
http://www.idoamiki.berlin.idolinguo.de/pdf/Id= o-Saluto-2009-02.pdf
http://= www.idoamiki.berlin.idolinguo.de/pdf/Ido-Saluto-2009-03.pdf
http://www.idoamiki.berlin.idolinguo.de/pd= f/Ido-Saluto-2009-04.pdf

Ante ke tu imprimos la kayeri: pensez= komprar la 8 kayeri de 2009 e 2010 por nur 10 Euri. Komendez pri la pagino= :

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=cOvhhAEwWEsRoO0R2aeXgrw2YzswWz-22pUe5XgPv3SNVV0OrkZEAEhE X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Kwo me mog shwo? Yu es strane jen! --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3: > > salutos, = pu isula (ou isina) lingwadeplaneto. > mio aceptan la koncepto under la li= nguodeplanetiko. ma mio non aceptan la ideo interna otur la linguodeplaneti= ko Also yu aksepti konsepta bat bu aksepti idea. Gratula! por ke yu janmog= separi konseptas fon ideas. Wud bi toshi hao si yu wud janmog separi swa-n= ey fantasia fon realitaa. >, mio non aceptan la eslogano "pro la unueso d= e la uomalo". mio tanpoko aceptan la fakta kontrolo ultima de la linguo fa = petita grupo formata esencamente de rusanos. Shwoer hi kontroli lingwa. S= i yu en-shwo pa lidepla, yu toshi ve begin influsi lingwa. > inoltre, = la sendanto de la anteriora mesajo donan komo nomino sua... unikamente la n= omino de la propria linguo, eis, tesa Lingwa de Planeta. donke, elo ou ejo = manifestan, en klara lapsuso froyda (de isula froydo, tesula Freud) ke elo = ou ejo konsideran pe suo komo la esenco de la propria linguodeplanetiko. N= obyen joka. Me bu signati may mesaja "Lingwa de Planeta". > kon kuestas = manifestasionos nosos estan ba alkunas eskarsas pasos de la "netusxebla fun= damento" de la esperanto, de la adorasiono pe santa zamenhofo kon ikonos su= as en las klubos esperantistas ei de himnos relijionas komo "la espero", me= nan redaktatas via la lingwodeplanetiko... Es sol yur fantasia. > proba= blamente, la eskapo dis kuesta non desirabla situasiono esan la fundasiono = de grupo fa disidantos Yu haishi bu shwo pa lidepla bat yo yao bi disidant= o? Muy strane. Apropoo toy samizdat-grupa, wel, me toshi mog kreati un Yah= u-grupa, nami-ney "Ikuso Samizdat". Ha-ha. Me haishi bu shwo pa ikuso bat y= o yao shanji it. Salutos, tesula-pisula. :) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7718 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Esperanto: Li shatas stiri novajn autojn, kaj hierau li vendis= sian malnovan. Ido: Il prizas duktar nov automobili, e hiere il vendis su= a ancien automobilo. Novial: Lo prisa dukte nov automobiles, e yer lo vend= ad sen ansien automobile. Ling: Il am dukt nov auto, e jer il vend se old = auto. Mondlango/Ulango: Hi aman drivi nova awtos, ay hiere hi vendin hia d= isnova awto. Sambahsa: Is preiht wehghe nov autos, ed ghes is hat pohrnt s= ien veut auto. Sibelingua: Il aprecia dukter nov automobiles, e hiere il v= endav su old automobile. ARIEL: Ile se diverta guidar autos nove Ed heri i= le vendeva su auto vetule. Paqatyl: Xofmeket pa novai avto yle aimer. Nove= n avtot se sva yle hertym antkavper. Eurikido: L=FCo laiket ducere novi au= tos, e =E4ier l=FCo vendi le soi v=EBii auto. LdP: Lu pri dukti nove autos= , e yeri lu vendi-te suy lao auto. Populido: Il priz dukte nov auto's, e y= er il vende sui ansien auto. Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #28 = aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Interlingua, Idiom Neut= ral, Volap=FCk, Neo, Glosa, LFN, od irg altra helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi = konocas. Danko, predanko ed adavane, estimati! * * * * * * * * p a r t a= k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7719 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=q_9ke7AXnRKcagI-nUDYlW9mKEfITtV6nuu8tHdxjAfN1O0 X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------1A581B8121FDA03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable salutos novamente, pu lingwodeplaneto. la fakto, una fakto ke tua ironio = non posiblan okultar, esan ke las mesajos dentro la grupo de isa yahuo nomi= nata "Lingwa de Planeta" tenan censuro previa. Inversamente, las mesajos de= ntro la grupo de isa yahuo nominata "ikuso" tenan ninkuna censuro previa. = mio non saban eksaktamente pe kualo tuo respondon menan, se tuo algo respon= don. ma mio saban eksaktamente ke tuo non dicon la seguanta fraso, ni via t= esa Lingwa de Planeta ni via alkuna altra linguo: "las mesajos pe kualos on= o desiran publikar en la grupo de isa yahuo nominata "Lingwa de Planeta" no= n tenan censuro previa.". prokue isto esun komo dicar ke duo plus duo esan= cinko (2+2=3D5). alora, se tuo pensan ke mio ja finin ista mesajo, tuo er= oran. mio agregon algo. se tuo respondan pe mio ei tua respondasiono non k= laran la afero, mio demandon novamente ta tuo: eske por kualo la grupo de i= sa yahuo sur tesa Lingwa de Planeta tenan censuro previa? ta las altras le= kturantos de kuesta mesajo mio dicon inoltre algo tre seriosa: la neutreso = reala (non solamente teoria) otur kualkuna helpoplanlinguo, sin pretendata = "amikeso" (duas parolantos de la mesma linguo non necesan esar amikos) esan= non prescindabla para ke la linguo estun, realamente, under la kontrolo di= rekta de suas parolantos inves una autonominata akademio ou komitato lingua= . ui, kuando mio dican ke mio aceptan la linguodeplanetiko ma sin linguode= planetikismo, mio non blufan. eksenplamente, alkunos inter vosos ja konocan= ke mio estan aprendundo la ido, para filosofar via la ido, senpre sin idis= mo; alkunos konocan ke mio ja publikin una esajo filosofia via la ido ei ke= mio kontinuon filosofundo via la ido, ei via altras helpoplanlinguos. mia= eslogano esan senpre la mesma: ui ba las helpoplanlinguos, non ba las movi= mentos socias ou ideologias pretendamente ligatas kon las helpoplanlinguos.= konkretamente sur tesa Lingwa de Planeta, mio aceptan parolar ou eskribar= via ista helpoplanlinguo... senpre dentro una foro, blogo ou listo sin cen= suro previa, naturamente. evidentamente, ista mesma foro, tesa posta_Mundi,= esan una foro apta para tala eskopo. ma mio komencun refusundo la absurda,= kaosa ei superflua sistemo de acentasiono en la aktuala linguodeplanetiko.= mio usun una regulo de acentasiono sinpla, klara ei sin dubidos, komo en l= a poloniko, la franciko, la esperanto ou la ulango (mondlango). mia intenc= iono otur las novas helpoplanlinguos non esan solamente kritikar, sino inol= tre konlaborar. amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, i= meilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- mesajo ori= jina ----- Kwo me mog shwo? Yu es strane jen! --- En posta_Mundi@yahoo= groups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3: >= > salutos, pu isula (ou isina) lingwadeplaneto. > mio aceptan la koncept= o under la linguodeplanetiko. ma mio non aceptan la ideo interna otur la li= nguodeplanetiko Also yu aksepti konsepta bat bu aksepti idea. Gratula! por= ke yu janmog separi konseptas fon ideas. Wud bi toshi hao si yu wud janmog= separi swa-ney fantasia fon realitaa. >, mio non aceptan la eslogano "pro= la unueso de la uomalo". mio tanpoko aceptan la fakta kontrolo ultima de l= a linguo fa petita grupo formata esencamente de rusanos. Shwoer hi kontro= li lingwa. Si yu en-shwo pa lidepla, yu toshi ve begin influsi lingwa. > = inoltre, la sendanto de la anteriora mesajo donan komo nomino sua... unikam= ente la nomino de la propria linguo, eis, tesa Lingwa de Planeta. donke, el= o ou ejo manifestan, en klara lapsuso froyda (de isula froydo, tesula Freud= ) ke elo ou ejo konsideran pe suo komo la esenco de la propria linguodeplan= etiko. Nobyen joka. Me bu signati may mesaja "Lingwa de Planeta". > kon k= uestas manifestasionos nosos estan ba alkunas eskarsas pasos de la "netusxe= bla fundamento" de la esperanto, de la adorasiono pe santa zamenhofo kon ik= onos suas en las klubos esperantistas ei de himnos relijionas komo "la espe= ro", menan redaktatas via la lingwodeplanetiko... Es sol yur fantasia. > = probablamente, la eskapo dis kuesta non desirabla situasiono esan la fundas= iono de grupo fa disidantos Yu haishi bu shwo pa lidepla bat yo yao bi dis= idanto? Muy strane. Apropoo toy samizdat-grupa, wel, me toshi mog kreati u= n Yahu-grupa, nami-ney "Ikuso Samizdat". Ha-ha. Me haishi bu shwo pa ikuso = bat yo yao shanji it. Salutos, tesula-pisula. ------------1A581B8121FDA03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial?

       salutos novamente, pu l= ingwodeplaneto.

  &n= bsp;    la fakto, una fakto ke tua ironio non posiblan okultar, e= san ke las mesajos dentro la grupo de isa yahuo nominata "Lingwa de Planeta= " tenan censuro previa. Inversamente, las mesajos dentro la grupo de isa ya= huo nominata "ikuso" tenan ninkuna censuro previa.

       mio non saban eksaktam= ente pe kualo tuo respondon menan, se tuo algo respondon. ma mio saban eksa= ktamente ke tuo non dicon la seguanta fraso, ni via tesa Lingwa de Planeta = ni via alkuna altra linguo: "las mesajos pe kualos ono desiran publikar en = la grupo de isa yahuo nominata "Lingwa de Planeta" non tenan censuro previa= .".

      =  prokue isto esun komo dicar ke duo plus duo esan cinko (2+2=3D5).

       a= lora, se tuo pensan ke mio ja finin ista mesajo, tuo eroran. mio agregon al= go.

      =  se tuo respondan pe mio ei tua respondasiono non klaran la afero, mio= demandon novamente ta tuo: eske por kualo la grupo de isa yahuo sur tesa L= ingwa de Planeta tenan censuro previa?

       ta las altras lekturantos de kuest= a mesajo mio dicon inoltre algo tre seriosa: la neutreso reala (non solamen= te teoria) otur kualkuna helpoplanlinguo, sin pretendata "amikeso" (duas pa= rolantos de la mesma linguo non necesan esar amikos) esan non prescindabla = para ke la linguo estun, realamente, under la kontrolo direkta de suas paro= lantos inves una autonominata akademio ou komitato lingua.

       ui, kuando mio= dican ke mio aceptan la linguodeplanetiko ma sin linguodeplanetikismo, mio= non blufan. eksenplamente, alkunos inter vosos ja konocan ke mio estan apr= endundo la ido, para filosofar via la ido, senpre sin idismo; alkunos konoc= an ke mio ja publikin una esajo filosofia via la ido ei ke mio kontinuon fi= losofundo via la ido, ei via altras helpoplanlinguos.

       mia eslogano esan= senpre la mesma: ui ba las helpoplanlinguos, non ba las movimentos socias = ou ideologias pretendamente ligatas kon las helpoplanlinguos.

       konkretamen= te sur tesa Lingwa de Planeta, mio aceptan parolar ou eskribar via ista hel= poplanlinguo... senpre dentro una foro, blogo ou listo sin censuro previa, = naturamente. evidentamente, ista mesma foro, tesa posta_Mundi, esan una for= o apta para tala eskopo. ma mio komencun refusundo la absurda, kaosa ei sup= erflua sistemo de acentasiono en la aktuala linguodeplanetiko. mio usun una= regulo de acentasiono sinpla, klara ei sin dubidos, komo en la poloniko, l= a franciko, la esperanto ou la ulango (mondlango).

       mia intenciono otur la= s novas helpoplanlinguos non esan solamente kritikar, sino inoltre konlabor= ar.

      =  amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigr= upo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).

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=        ----- mesajo orijina -----


       Kwo me mog shwo?

       Yu es strane jen!=


       --- En posta_Mun= di@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domi= ngo escribi=F3:

       >

       > salutos, pu isula (ou is= ina) lingwadeplaneto.

&nb= sp;      > mio aceptan la koncepto under la linguodeplane= tiko. ma mio non aceptan la ideo interna otur la linguodeplanetiko

       Also y= u aksepti konsepta bat bu aksepti idea. Gratula! por ke yu janmog separi ko= nseptas fon ideas. Wud bi toshi hao si yu wud janmog separi swa-ney fantasi= a fon realitaa.

  &n= bsp;    >, mio non aceptan la eslogano "pro la unueso de la uo= malo". mio tanpoko aceptan la fakta kontrolo ultima de la linguo fa petita = grupo formata esencamente de rusanos. 

       Shwoer hi kontroli lingwa. Si= yu en-shwo pa lidepla, yu toshi ve begin influsi lingwa. 

=

       > inol= tre, la sendanto de la anteriora mesajo donan komo nomino sua... unikamente= la nomino de la propria linguo, eis, tesa Lingwa de Planeta. donke, elo ou= ejo manifestan, en klara lapsuso froyda (de isula froydo, tesula Freud) ke= elo ou ejo konsideran pe suo komo la esenco de la propria linguodeplanetik= o.

      &= nbsp;Nobyen joka. Me bu signati may mesaja "Lingwa de Planeta".

=

       > kon = kuestas manifestasionos nosos estan ba alkunas eskarsas pasos de la "netusx= ebla fundamento" de la esperanto, de la adorasiono pe santa zamenhofo kon i= konos suas en las klubos esperantistas ei de himnos relijionas komo "la esp= ero", menan redaktatas via la lingwodeplanetiko...

       Es sol yur fantasia.

       = ;> probablamente, la eskapo dis kuesta non desirabla situasiono esan la = fundasiono de grupo fa disidantos

       Yu haishi bu shwo pa lidepla bat yo y= ao bi disidanto? Muy strane.

       Apropoo toy samizdat-grupa, wel, me toshi mo= g kreati un Yahu-grupa, nami-ney "Ikuso Samizdat". Ha-ha. Me haishi bu shwo= pa ikuso bat yo yao shanji it.

       Salutos, tesula-pisula.


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=VVz9Q-cBOTANAihvG9VsPlU0qIwO1HsGRU0jBxLXJrmt0f0 X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------10A92D4309CF1E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable salutos, pu tesula rosto. tua mesajo citata fa mio esan inpor= tanta, ansi por sua kontenato komo por la fakto mesma mater esar sendato di= rektamente via la ikuso. multas mitos sur la ikuso ou sur las helpop= lanlinguos tonban sinplamente via tua sendasiono. nosos eksaminen la afero.= tuo ei mio non esan konrelijionanos, non esan mesmideanos. la ikuso= non tenan movimento socioideologia propria, ei las usos de la ikuso okasio= nan tipamente dentro foros non especifamente sur la ikuso. donke, se las es= perantistos tenun rasono, la komunikasiono via la ikuso esun nonposibla. = ei tala komunikasiono esan posibla. la kauso esan glasnosta: la= cienco aplikata esan autosuficanta. la tabulo atoma fa tua konpatriano isu= la mendeleyevo funcionan sin "amikeso" inter suas usantos, ansi komo la sis= temo decimala mensuranta internaciona funcionan sin una ideologio ou partit= o politikorelijiona otur tala sistemo de mensurasiono. adicionamente, tanto= la tabulo fa isula mendeleyevo komo la sistemo mensuranta internaciona enk= orpan kontinuamente las mejorasionos ciencas ei teknikas sujestionatas fa l= as eksperimentos ei observasionos enpirikas, en harmonio kon la nukleo de l= a sistemo. kon pokas parolos: cienco sin relijiono. mu la idealo! tuo intr= oducionin direktamente into tua ikuso las modifikasionos desiratas fa tuo, = ei mio konprenin integramente tua mesajo. se pe algo mio non konprenun, pe = kueso mio konsultun ta tuo direktamente, donke superfluan kualkuna akademio= ou komitato de eruditos otur la helpoplanlinguo; otur kuesta helpoplanling= uo, la ikuso, ou otur kualkuna altra helpoplanlinguo. las faktos esan las = faktos. menan mio komenton alkunas aspektos konkretas de tua mesajo. prim= o, mio klaron ke eksistan una dokumento centra sur la intalo, eskribata fa = isula eriho veferlino (tesula Erich Weferling), kon la titulo "Standard gra= matike del international planlingue Intal.doc (Sentral dokument del planlin= gue Intal)". mio obtenin la arkivo grafika eskanerata fa esforcatas helpopl= anlinguistos, ei pos mio dijitin konpletamente la teksto kon suas grafikos = informativas. ono posiblan diskarjar la teksto desde la listo "Intal-lingue= " (http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/intal-lingue/) ei mio inoltre karjin la= arkivo into la grupo tesa postamundio. prokue la uorko fa eriho veferlino = esan tre bona ei eskarsamente konocata dentro la kulturo euroklona, mio sub= linean kuesta informasiono. mio, dentro la ikuso ou dentro altras euroklono= s, tenan una granda inspirasiono otur la intalo, ortografiamente para komen= car. ui: la ortografio de la ikuso esan tre simila ba la ortografio de la = idiomoneutriko ou de la intalo. donke, mio solamente necesan markar las esk= arsas diferesos de la ortografio de la ikuso kon la ortografio de la idiomo= neutriko. eis. la letro "q", de uso tre eskarsa, sonoran kuasi komo la le= tro "k", ma kon la tongo ou korpolinguo retrokolokata, komo en la parolo "q= orano", inoltre eskribata ei pronunciata komo "korano". la letro "w", de u= so tre eskarsa, esan la varianto semivokala de la vokalo "u", komo en la pa= rolo "wiskio", inoltre eskribata ei pronunciata komo "uiskio". la letro "x= ", segon tuo ja konprenin, sonoran komo la digrafo "sh" en la idiomoneutrik= o ei altras linguos. la letro "z", de uso tre eskarsa, esan la varianto fo= rta ei zunbanta de la la konsonanto "s", komo en la parolo "zunbanta", inol= tre eskribata ei pronunciata komo "sunbanta". mio inoltre desiran nuancar= ke la pronunciasiono plus rekomendabla para la letro "h" en la ikuso esan = la alofono forta velopalata eskribata komo "j" en la espaniko, komo "x" en = la rusiko ei komo "ch" en la doiciko (alemaniko), en la gaeliko eskota ou i= rlanda, en la cekiko, en la eslovakiko ei en altras linguos (digrafo "kh" d= e la idiomoneutriko). en la ikuso, la letro "h" non esan muta ni kuasi muta= . menan mio demandan ba tuo, desde mia estranjereso otur las linguos eslav= as: eksistan grandas diferesos gramatikas, visionablas inkluso para mio, in= ter las linguos eslavas. eksenplamente, la poloniko ei la rusiko konservan = anplamente la deklinasiono de la antika eslaviko komuna, ma la bulgariko mo= derna perdin kuasi konpletamente la deklinasiono, substituando la deklinasi= ono via preposicionos, komo dentro las linguos neolatinas. donke, eske komo= solucionan ista problemo las helpoplanlinguos eslavas citatas fa tuo? mio= konsultin tesa Romanica ei, sinceramente, mio estiman ke kuesa helpoplanli= nguo esan tro dificila, inkluso inter parolantos naskivas de linguos neolat= inas. mio preferan la sermo fa isula Jos=E9 Soares da Silva. ma, sinceramen= te, mio deklaran ke euroklonos latineskas komo tesa Romanova ou tesa Lingua= Franca Nova esan la soluciono ideala inter nosos, las parolantos naskivas = de linguos neolatinas. mio usan direktamente la galegiko (formo algo arkaik= a ei espanata de la portugalbrasiliko) direktamente komo linguo franka dent= ro las foros ciencas internacionas kualos usan linguos neolatinas teritoria= s. la galegiko esan mia linguo propria, la linguo pe kualo mio usan para pe= nsar. la formo "kuesto", frekuentamente kon ortografio "questo" eksistan j= a en las euroklonos plus neolatinas. mio redican ke la problemo de fondo es= an evitar formos tro similas mutuamente komo "ito, isto, esto, eto, eso, is= e, ile, le, la" para las pronomos, las demostrativos ei las artikulos. mio = visionan ninkuna problemo para introducionar formos eslavas, bantuas, hinda= s, cinas ou andinas en las euroklonos, ansi evitundo homofonios (mesmosonor= esos) para istas parolos tanto frekuentas. las euroklonos tenan una vokabul= aro esencamente europokcidenta, ma kuesto non esan una regulo rijida ei abs= oluta. mio tipamente usan una vokalo eskribata, kuasi senpre la vokalo "e"= segon la tradiciono, para markar pe la vokalo kurta kualo aparan pre la gr= upo komenca formata kon la sonoro "s" plus altra konsonanto. kuestas formos= varian kontinuamente sua ortografio segon las linguos neolatinas, komo en = "(e)spaco". la ausenco de vokalo grafika non provokan anbigueso, donke tua = (e)skribasiono kausan ninkuna problemo, se nosos konprenan ke la vokalo pro= nunciata senpre eksiston. sur las relacionos inter helpoplanlinguos ei kul= turos para las eslavos, las jermanos ou las romancos (neolatinos) mio redic= an ke resultan preferabla una konpleta neutreso teoria ei praktika de las h= elpoplanlinguos, de fondo ei inoltre aparanta. la esposino de isula kesaro = devan esar honorabla ei aparar komo honorabla. dentro la listo http://es.g= roups.yahoo.com/group/ikuso/ tuo trovon materialos didaktas adicionas sur l= a ikuso; mio karjin ja alkunos into tesa postamundio. amikamente, fa isula= alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo aro= bo yahoo punto es). ----- mesajo orijina ----- Salut= o, Alexandro! Mio desidin skribar hike en mia versiono de Ikuso, kua= le mio komprendan isto. La skribsistemo de Ikuso semblan esar identa al skr= ibsistemo de Idiom Neutral, eseptamente ke Neutral usan la digrafo sh vise = x de Ikuso. Pri interslavas linguos - Kom slavo mio no volan ni Sla= vikuso ni Slovio. Omnas slavas linguos havan suficamente simila gramatiko p= or ke usar ista komuna gramatiko e non inventar alkun artifisiala gramatiko= . Linguos kuale Slovianski o Slovioski esan maxim apta. Anke mio suspektan,= ke Romanica o simila ekstremamente naturalista linguo es maxim bona kam in= ter-romana. Euroklonos esan altra kaso. Euroklono devan havar non solament= e romanas elementos, ma anke sufica parto de germanas elementos. La gramati= ko darfas esar nur konstruktita, forsan plu, forsan min proksima a naturala= s gramatikos. Slavos o romanos o germanos por sentar se kom un popul= o slava o romana o germana ya plu besonan alkun ideologio plu kam komuna li= nguo. La komuna linguo ja preske eksistan. Euroklonos esan altra kaso. Kva= nkam europosentra, bona euroklono esan suficamente neutrala por donar posib= leso a irgas homos parolantas en ta linguo sentar se kuale un populo. Non= -euroklonos anke povan donar to, e la kuuestiono, kuo es plu bona, eske euro= klonos o non-euroklonos, restan aperta. Homos, kel plu apresian euroklonos,= okupan se pri euroklonos. Kel preferan non-euroklonos, okupan se pri non-e= uroklonos. Isto simplamente dependan de libera selekto. Pri "kuesto"= . Quankam ista "kuesto" esan prendita del Itala linguo, tuo non darfan dica= r, ke isto esan prendita de euroklonos, pro ke, ya, la Itala linguo non esa= n euroklono! Rosto. ------------10A92D4309CF1E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial?

       salutos= , pu tesula rosto.

  &= nbsp;    tua mesajo citata fa mio esan inportanta, ansi por sua k= ontenato komo por la fakto mesma mater esar sendato direktamente via la iku= so.

      &n= bsp;multas mitos sur la ikuso ou sur las helpoplanlinguos tonban sinplament= e via tua sendasiono. nosos eksaminen la afero.

       tuo ei mio non esan konreli= jionanos, non esan mesmideanos. la ikuso non tenan movimento socioideologia= propria, ei las usos de la ikuso okasionan tipamente dentro foros non espe= cifamente sur la ikuso. donke, se las esperantistos tenun rasono, la komuni= kasiono via la ikuso esun nonposibla.

       ei tala komunikasiono esan posibla.

       l= a kauso esan glasnosta: la cienco aplikata esan autosuficanta. la tabulo at= oma fa tua konpatriano isula mendeleyevo funcionan sin "amikeso" inter suas= usantos, ansi komo la sistemo decimala mensuranta internaciona funcionan s= in una ideologio ou partito politikorelijiona otur tala sistemo de mensuras= iono. adicionamente, tanto la tabulo fa isula mendeleyevo komo la sistemo m= ensuranta internaciona enkorpan kontinuamente las mejorasionos ciencas ei t= eknikas sujestionatas fa las eksperimentos ei observasionos enpirikas, en h= armonio kon la nukleo de la sistemo. kon pokas parolos: cienco sin relijion= o. mu la idealo!

  &n= bsp;    tuo introducionin direktamente into tua ikuso las modifik= asionos desiratas fa tuo, ei mio konprenin integramente tua mesajo. se pe a= lgo mio non konprenun, pe kueso mio konsultun ta tuo direktamente, donke su= perfluan kualkuna akademio ou komitato de eruditos otur la helpoplanlinguo;= otur kuesta helpoplanlinguo, la ikuso, ou otur kualkuna altra helpoplanlin= guo.

      =  las faktos esan las faktos.

       menan mio komenton alkunas aspektos ko= nkretas de tua mesajo.

&nb= sp;      primo, mio klaron ke eksistan una dokumento centra = sur la intalo, eskribata fa isula eriho veferlino (tesula Erich Weferling),= kon la titulo "Standard gramatike del internat= ional planlingue Intal.doc (Sentral dokument del= planlingue Intal)".=  mio obtenin la arkivo grafika eskanerata fa esforcatas helpoplanlingu= istos, ei pos mio dijitin konpletamente la teksto kon suas grafikos informa= tivas. ono posiblan diskarjar la teksto desde la listo "Intal-lingue" (http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/intal-lingue/) e= i mio inoltre karjin la arkivo into la grupo tesa postamundio. prokue la uo= rko fa eriho veferlino esan tre bona ei eskarsamente konocata dentro la kul= turo euroklona, mio sublinean kuesta informasiono. mio, dentro la ikuso ou = dentro altras euroklonos, tenan una granda inspirasiono otur la intalo, ort= ografiamente para komencar.

       ui: la ortografio de la ikuso esan tre simila = ba la ortografio de la idiomoneutriko ou de la intalo. donke, mio solamente= necesan markar las eskarsas diferesos de la ortografio de la ikuso kon la = ortografio de la idiomoneutriko. eis.


  &nb= sp;    la letro "q", de uso tre eskarsa, sonoran kuasi komo la le= tro "k", ma kon la tongo ou korpolinguo retrokolokata, komo en la parolo "q= orano", inoltre eskribata ei pronunciata komo "korano".

       la letro "w", de u= so tre eskarsa, esan la varianto semivokala de la vokalo "u", komo en la pa= rolo "wiskio", inoltre eskribata ei pronunciata komo "uiskio".

<= p class=3Drvps2>        la letro "x= ", segon tuo ja konprenin, sonoran komo la digrafo "sh" en la idiomoneutrik= o ei altras linguos.
      &= nbsp;la letro "z", de uso tre eskarsa, esan la varianto forta ei zunbanta d= e la la konsonanto "s", komo en la parolo "zunbanta", inoltre eskribata ei = pronunciata komo "sunbanta".


     = ;  mio inoltre desiran nuancar ke la pronunciasiono plus rekomendabla = para la letro "h" en la ikuso esan la alofono forta velopalata eskribata ko= mo "j" en la espaniko, komo "x" en la rusiko ei komo "ch" en la doiciko (al= emaniko), en la gaeliko eskota ou irlanda, en la cekiko, en la eslovakiko e= i en altras linguos (digrafo "kh" de la idiomoneutriko). en la ikuso, la le= tro "h" non esan muta ni kuasi muta.

       menan mio demandan ba tuo, desde mia = estranjereso otur las linguos eslavas: eksistan grandas diferesos gramatika= s, visionablas inkluso para mio, inter las linguos eslavas. eksenplamente, = la poloniko ei la rusiko konservan anplamente la deklinasiono de la antika = eslaviko komuna, ma la bulgariko moderna perdin kuasi konpletamente la dekl= inasiono, substituando la deklinasiono via preposicionos, komo dentro las l= inguos neolatinas. donke, eske komo solucionan ista problemo las helpoplanl= inguos eslavas citatas fa tuo?

       mio konsultin tesa Romanica ei, sincerament= e, mio estiman ke kuesa helpoplanlinguo esan tro dificila, inkluso inter pa= rolantos naskivas de linguos neolatinas. mio preferan la sermo fa isula Jos= =E9 Soares da Silva. ma, sinceramente, mio deklaran ke euroklonos latineska= s komo tesa Romanova ou tesa Lingua Franca Nova esan la soluciono ideala in= ter nosos, las parolantos naskivas de linguos neolatinas. mio usan direktam= ente la galegiko (formo algo arkaika ei espanata de la portugalbrasiliko) d= irektamente komo linguo franka dentro las foros ciencas internacionas kualo= s usan linguos neolatinas teritorias. la galegiko esan mia linguo propria, = la linguo pe kualo mio usan para pensar.

       la formo "kuesto", frekuentamente= kon ortografio "questo" eksistan ja en las euroklonos plus neolatinas. mio= redican ke la problemo de fondo esan evitar formos tro similas mutuamente = komo "ito, isto, esto, eto, eso, ise, ile, le, la" para las pronomos, las d= emostrativos ei las artikulos. mio visionan ninkuna problemo para introduci= onar formos eslavas, bantuas, hindas, cinas ou andinas en las euroklonos, a= nsi evitundo homofonios (mesmosonoresos) para istas parolos tanto frekuenta= s. las euroklonos tenan una vokabularo esencamente europokcidenta, ma kuest= o non esan una regulo rijida ei absoluta.

       mio tipamente usan una vokalo es= kribata, kuasi senpre la vokalo "e" segon la tradiciono, para markar pe la = vokalo kurta kualo aparan pre la grupo komenca formata kon la sonoro "s" pl= us altra konsonanto. kuestas formos varian kontinuamente sua ortografio seg= on las linguos neolatinas, komo en "(e)spaco". la ausenco de vokalo grafika= non provokan anbigueso, donke tua (e)skribasiono kausan ninkuna problemo, = se nosos konprenan ke la vokalo pronunciata senpre eksiston.

       sur las relac= ionos inter helpoplanlinguos ei kulturos para las eslavos, las jermanos ou = las romancos (neolatinos) mio redican ke resultan preferabla una konpleta n= eutreso teoria ei praktika de las helpoplanlinguos, de fondo ei inoltre apa= ranta. la esposino de isula kesaro devan esar honorabla ei aparar komo hono= rabla.

     = ;  dentro la listo http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ikuso/<= /a> tuo trovon materialos didaktas adicionas sur l= a ikuso; mio karjin ja alkunos into tesa postamundio.

       amikamente, fa isu= la alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).

       

       ----- mesajo orijina -----<= /p>


<= span class=3Drvts6>       Saluto, Alexandro!

=

       Mio desidi= n skribar hike en mia versiono de Ikuso, kuale mio komprendan isto. La skri= bsistemo de Ikuso semblan esar identa al skribsistemo de Idiom Neutral, ese= ptamente ke Neutral usan la digrafo sh vise x de Ikuso. 

       Pri interslav= as linguos - Kom slavo mio no volan ni Slavikuso ni Slovio. Omnas slavas li= nguos havan suficamente simila gramatiko por ke usar ista komuna gramatiko = e non inventar alkun artifisiala gramatiko. Linguos kuale Slovianski o Slov= ioski esan maxim apta. Anke mio suspektan, ke Romanica o simila ekstremamen= te naturalista linguo es maxim bona kam inter-romana.

       Euroklonos esan al= tra kaso. Euroklono devan havar non solamente romanas elementos, ma anke su= fica parto de germanas elementos. La gramatiko darfas esar nur konstruktita= , forsan plu, forsan min proksima a naturalas gramatikos.

       Slavos o romanos = o germanos por sentar se kom un populo slava o romana o germana ya plu beso= nan alkun ideologio plu kam komuna linguo. La komuna linguo ja preske eksis= tan.

      =  Euroklonos esan altra kaso. Kvankam europosentra, bona euroklono esan= suficamente neutrala por donar posibleso a irgas homos parolantas en ta li= nguo sentar se kuale un populo. 

       Non-euroklonos anke povan donar to, = e la kuestiono, kuo es plu bona, eske euroklonos o non-euroklonos, restan a= perta. Homos, kel plu apresian euroklonos, okupan se pri euroklonos. Kel pr= eferan non-euroklonos, okupan se pri non-euroklonos. Isto simplamente depen= dan de libera selekto.

&nbs= p;      Pri "kuesto". Quankam ista "kuesto" esan prendita de= l Itala linguo, tuo non darfan dicar, ke isto esan prendita de euroklonos, = pro ke, ya, la Itala linguo non esan euroklono!

       Rosto.


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Quo esas, hike, "Norvegia"? Amike, Ales= handro Shaviero Kasanova Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trig= rupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- mesajo originala ----- Hola, Alex= andre! Me ipsa jus eliminabas 7 ek tua 9 recenta dokumenti, che nia fako "= Archivos" (Arkivi), sive pro ke li esis ne-valida por posta_Mundi, sive pro= ke li esis ecesiva e tote ne-oportuna. Voluntez konstatar tu ipsa quo res= tis, adminime provizore, en nia arkivo: tua dokumento pri Intal, e plusa do= kumento, ma ca-kaze pri (ed en) Ikuso. Se tu deziras kargar ulo altra en l= a fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, oportos ke tu sendez a me, priva= te, la konkreta dokumento, e ke me povez durar fidar a tu ed a tua bona int= enco. Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --= - En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" sk= ribis: Estimata samforumani: Per ica mesajo plezas a me informar vi omna,= ke jus kargesis nova dokumento che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mu= ndi: Dokumento: /Standard gramatike del international planlingue Intal.doc= Responsanto: trigrupo Deskripturo: Sentral dokument del p= lanlingue Intal. Por lektar e juar tal dokumento, voluntez kliktar sur l= a sequanta ligilo: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/Sta= ndard%20gramatike%20del%20international%20planlingue%20Intal.doc Danko pr= o via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * -- Saludos, Alexan= dre mailto:trigrupo@... ------------721061DE353F157F Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi =

       Hola, Par= taka.

     =  Quo esas, hike, "Norvegia"?

       Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanova Do= mingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).=


       ----- mesajo orig= inala -----



=


  

Hola, Ale= xandre!


Me ipsa jus eliminabas 7 ek tua 9 recen= ta

dokumenti, che nia fako= "Archivos" (Arkivi),

sive= pro ke li esis ne-valida por posta_Mundi,

sive pro ke li esis ecesiva e tote ne-oportuna.

=


Voluntez konstatar tu ipsa quo restis, adminime

provizore, en nia arkivo: tua dokum= ento pri Intal,

e plusa do= kumento, ma ca-kaze pri (ed en) Ikuso.


Se tu de= ziras kargar ulo altra en la fako "Archivos"

(Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, oportos ke tu sendez a me,

private, la konkreta dokumento= , e ke me povez durar

fida= r a tu ed a tua bona intenco. 


Norvegia, S= handru! Norvegia! 

P A R T A K A

* * * * * * * * * 

=


--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com

"qualevistandas"= skribis:


Estimata s= amforumani:


Per ica mesajo plezas a me informar= vi omna,

ke jus kargesis = nova dokumento che l' fako

"Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi:


Dokumento:= /Standard gramatike del international planlingue Intal.doc 

Responsanto: trigrupo  

Deskripturo:= Sentral dokument del planlingue Intal. 

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P= or lektar e juar tal dokumento, 

voluntez kliktar sur la sequanta ligilo: 


http://es.gr= oups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files/Standard%20gramatike%20del%20interna= tional%20planlingue%20Intal.doc 

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Danko pro via atenco.



P A R T A K A

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--=  

Saludos,

=

 Alexandre      =                     &nbs= p;mailto:trigrup= o@...

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=f1wRgVsAydqPHUGuVdfSvDqueJ34Qx3X020emMzZg6aed9Y X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------A61DD207155D0F24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable salutos novamente, lingwodeplaneto. mio konsultin las duas lokos internet= as citatas fa tuo, ei mio visionin ke itos esan lokos de funciono restrikta= ta ou de ingreso restriktata. non, gracios. felicamente, la naturo polite= ista ou multicentra de interneto permesan superar facilamente atitudos pers= onistas ou miserablas en aferos kulturas. se mio desiran parolar tesa Lingw= a de Planeta sin tua kontrolo ei sin kontrolo de altros, eksistan multas lo= kos internetas dove pe kueso mio posiblan fagar; ou mio pe kuesas lokos pos= iblan krear facilamente. mio kontinuan pensundo ke la acentasiono de tesa = Lingwa de Planeta esan mala, ei se mio mesajan via tesa Lingwa de Planeta, = mio modifikon kuesa sistemo de acentasiono. probablamente mio esun censurat= a, silencata ou espulsata de tuas foros se mio mesajun kon kuesa modifikasi= ono acenta. ma mio non mesajon sur ei via tesa Lingwa de Planeta en tuas fo= ros. mio uson foros liberas. alora; mio profiton la fino de ista mesajo pa= ra nuancar, especialamente ta tesa Partaka, pe algo sur una afero tre plus = inportanta kuanto la ortografio ou la gramatiko: la filosofio. estimata te= sa Partaka: nosos tenon tenpo para parolar sur la demokratio via tua helpop= lanlinguo preferata, la ido, ma ja la situasiono kon la linguodeplanetikism= o (non kon la linguodeplanetiko mesma) donan piedo ta mio para puntar algo = aparantamente tre estrana. mio esan antidemokrato, komo ja tuo ei altros k= onocan aki. ma, eske por kualo? eske por kualo mio, estranamente, refusan = una rejimo politika oji aceptata unanimamente? eksistan multas poterojas r= asonos, ma la rasono principala, naturamente, esan una rasono de fondo: la = uomo non esan konfidabla para aferos inportantas. las aferos de ortografio,= de gramatiko ou de estrukturasiono de pajinos internetas esan sekondaras. = ma la vivo, la feliceso, la libereso para disopiniar, la superpopulasiono e= i altras aferos, certamente, esan aferos tre inportantas. ei la historio d= e la uomo konfirman klaramente ke la uomo abusan fatalamente se eto posibla= n abusar. kuando la abuso esan individua, ou de una koterio petita (las kon= trolantos de tesa Lingwa de Planeta esan una eksenplo aktuala) pe kuesa abu= so ono posiblan facilamente superar. kuando la abuso provenan desde la pot= ero ekonomika, militara, ekonomika ou politika, kuesa abuso esan plus dific= ilamente superabla. kuando la abuso provenan desde la majoreso ou desde la= populo, kuesa abuso esan absoluta. solamente la katastrofo, la gero, la re= voluciono ou la amarga lukto politika de longa durasiono superon kuesa abus= o. por kuesto nosos necesan, kontra la demokrateso... plus demokrateso. mu= nosos necesan konbatar la malo kon la malo! kuesto signifan ke la aceso b= a la potero politika devan esar universa, non limitata ba una elito komo ak= tualamente. adicionamente, ninkuna funciono politika, inkluso de petita anb= ito, diritan esar eterna, sino senpre under revokableso popula perioda. no= sos, las libertaros ei anarkistos, bonamente konocan ke ono devan usar la d= emokratio... senpre kon una granda preventasiono kontra la propria demokrat= io. la tasko esenca esan sekurar la libereso de la individuo kontra la pop= ulo. kuesto en la demokratio, en la antidemokratio ei en kualkuna rejimo po= litika. amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo tr= igrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- mesajo orijina ---= -- --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo = escribi=F3: > > salutos novamente, pu lingwodeplaneto. S= aluta a yu toshi, tesula pu isula alexandro. > eske por kualo la grupo de= isa yahuo sur tesa Lingwa de Planeta tenan censuro previa? Dabe mah-wek = spam e nobyen mesaja, naturalem. > ma mio komencun refusundo la absurda, = kaosa ei superflua sistemo de acentasiono en la aktuala linguodeplanetiko. = Yu es noprave. Aksenta-sistema bu es ni absurde ni kaotike. Es ga rasum-n= ey e regulare. Si yu yao probi skribi koysa pa lidepla, yu mog yusi sey f= orum fo beginer: http://lidepla.freeforums.org/index.php oda Textalok-wi= ki: http://ldp.wikkii.com/wiki/Main_Page ------------A61DD207155D0F24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial? =

       salutos = novamente, lingwodeplaneto.

       mio konsultin las duas lokos internetas citat= as fa tuo, ei mio visionin ke itos esan lokos de funciono restriktata ou de= ingreso restriktata.

&nb= sp;      non, gracios.

       felicamente, la naturo politeista o= u multicentra de interneto permesan superar facilamente atitudos personista= s ou miserablas en aferos kulturas. se mio desiran parolar tesa Lingwa de P= laneta sin tua kontrolo ei sin kontrolo de altros, eksistan multas lokos in= ternetas dove pe kueso mio posiblan fagar; ou mio pe kuesas lokos posiblan = krear facilamente.

 =      mio kontinuan pensundo ke la acentasiono de tesa Lingw= a de Planeta esan mala, ei se mio mesajan via tesa Lingwa de Planeta, mio m= odifikon kuesa sistemo de acentasiono. probablamente mio esun censurata, si= lencata ou espulsata de tuas foros se mio mesajun kon kuesa modifikasiono a= centa. ma mio non mesajon sur ei via tesa Lingwa de Planeta en tuas foros. = mio uson foros liberas.

&= nbsp;      alora; mio profiton la fino de ista mesajo para n= uancar, especialamente ta tesa Partaka, pe algo sur una afero tre plus inpo= rtanta kuanto la ortografio ou la gramatiko: la filosofio.

       estimata tesa = Partaka: nosos tenon tenpo para parolar sur la demokratio via tua helpoplan= linguo preferata, la ido, ma ja la situasiono kon la linguodeplanetikismo (= non kon la linguodeplanetiko mesma) donan piedo ta mio para puntar algo apa= rantamente tre estrana.

&= nbsp;      mio esan antidemokrato, komo ja tuo ei altros kon= ocan aki.

    &= nbsp;  ma, eske por kualo? eske por kualo mio, estranamente, refusan u= na rejimo politika oji aceptata unanimamente?

<= span class=3Drvts34>        eksistan multas poterojas r= asonos, ma la rasono principala, naturamente, esan una rasono de fondo: la = uomo non esan konfidabla para aferos inportantas. las aferos de ortografio,= de gramatiko ou de estrukturasiono de pajinos internetas esan sekondaras. = ma la vivo, la feliceso, la libereso para disopiniar, la superpopulasiono e= i altras aferos, certamente, esan aferos tre inportantas.

       ei la historio = de la uomo konfirman klaramente ke la uomo abusan fatalamente se eto posibl= an abusar. kuando la abuso esan individua, ou de una koterio petita (las ko= ntrolantos de tesa Lingwa de Planeta esan una eksenplo aktuala) pe kuesa ab= uso ono posiblan facilamente superar.

       kuando la abuso provenan desde la p= otero ekonomika, militara, ekonomika ou politika, kuesa abuso esan plus dif= icilamente superabla.

&nb= sp;      kuando la abuso provenan desde la majoreso ou desde= la populo, kuesa abuso esan absoluta. solamente la katastrofo, la gero, la= revoluciono ou la amarga lukto politika de longa durasiono superon kuesa a= buso.

     = ;  por kuesto nosos necesan, kontra la demokrateso... plus demokrateso= . mu nosos necesan konbatar la malo kon la malo!

       kuesto signifan ke la ac= eso ba la potero politika devan esar universa, non limitata ba una elito ko= mo aktualamente. adicionamente, ninkuna funciono politika, inkluso de petit= a anbito, diritan esar eterna, sino senpre under revokableso popula perioda= .

      &n= bsp;nosos, las libertaros ei anarkistos, bonamente konocan ke ono devan usa= r la demokratio... senpre kon una granda preventasiono kontra la propria de= mokratio.

    &= nbsp;  la tasko esenca esan sekurar la libereso de la individuo kontra= la populo. kuesto en la demokratio, en la antidemokratio ei en kualkuna re= jimo politika.

  &nb= sp;    amikamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, i= meilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


       ----- mesajo orijina -----

=


       --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogr= oups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3:

       >

       > salutos novamente, pu lingwodepl= aneto.


       Saluta a yu = toshi, tesula pu isula alexandro.


  &nb= sp;    > eske por kualo la grupo de isa yahuo sur tesa Lingwa = de Planeta tenan censuro previa?


   =    Dabe mah-wek spam e nobyen mesaja, naturalem.


       > ma mio komencun refusundo la = absurda, kaosa ei superflua sistemo de acentasiono en la aktuala linguodepl= anetiko.


<= p class=3Drvps2>        Yu es nopr= ave. Aksenta-sistema bu es ni absurde ni kaotike. Es ga rasum-ney e regular= e.


       Si yu yao probi = skribi koysa pa lidepla, yu mog yusi sey forum fo beginer:

       http://lidepla.= freeforums.org/index.php


=

      &nb= sp;oda Textalok-wiki:

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Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" esas partakalajo; ol esas mea hum= orajo por tradukar "Norway", tal qual ol dicesas Angla-lingue... Kande ulu= kelke reprimendesas en l'Angla pro agar poke saje, on dicas a lu ulo simil= esanta "Norway", lando-nomo quan me uzas jokatre en tal kazi, e quan hike = me tradukis aden "Norvegia!" Do, quoniam cafoye tu trouzis e misuzis la vo= yo... + Norway, Shandru! Norway! :-) P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo skribis: Hola, Partaka. Quo esas, hike, "Norvegia"? Amike, Al= eshandro Shaviero Kasanova Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrup= o arobo yahoo punto es). ----- mesajo originala ----- Hola, Alexandre= ! Me ipsa jus eliminabas 7 ek tua 9 recenta dokumenti, che nia fako "Arch= ivos" (Arkivi), sive pro ke li esis ne-valida por posta_Mundi, sive pro ke = li esis ecesiva e tote ne-oportuna. Voluntez konstatar tu ipsa quo restis= , adminime provizore, en nia arkivo: tua dokumento pri Intal, e plusa dokum= ento, ma ca-kaze pri (ed en) Ikuso. Se tu deziras kargar ulo altra en la = fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, oportos ke tu sendez a me, private= , la konkreta dokumento, e ke me povez durar fidar a tu ed a tua bona inten= co. Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7737 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=vkwKez6PZPlv57ISQg0sNHxzQC0gNvRxLF27_FpMRCVs5gQo2F01e7In X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3: > > salutos novamente, lingwodeplaneto. > mio kon= sultin las duas lokos internetas citatas fa tuo, ei mio visionin ke itos es= an lokos de funciono restriktata ou de ingreso restriktata. > non, gracios= . > felicamente, la naturo politeista ou multicentra de interneto permesan= superar facilamente atitudos personistas ou miserablas en aferos kulturas.= se mio desiran parolar tesa Lingwa de Planeta sin tua kontrolo ei sin kont= rolo de altros, eksistan multas lokos internetas dove pe kueso mio posiblan= fagar; ou mio pe kuesas lokos posiblan krear facilamente. > mio kontinuan= pensundo ke la acentasiono de tesa Lingwa de Planeta esan mala, ei se mio = mesajan via tesa Lingwa de Planeta, mio modifikon kuesa sistemo de acentasi= ono. probablamente mio esun censurata, silencata ou espulsata de tuas foros= se mio mesajun kon kuesa modifikasiono acenta. ma mio non mesajon sur ei v= ia tesa Lingwa de Planeta en tuas foros. mio uson foros liberas. Yu es ad= ulte jen e mog zwo kwo yu yao. Yu mog modifiki alfabet, aksenta-sistema, yu= mog shanji worda, worda-ordina, etf., etf. Sol un remarka: nami ba resulta= bay koy otre nam. Pa exampla, "lingwa de Shandru", oda "lideshandropla"...= Inventi ba koy nam. Kan ba: Partaka yusi Populido. Es varianta de Ido, ba= t Partaka bu shwo, ke ta yusi Ido. Partaka es honeste. Oli jen gai bi hones= te. Trai bi honeste, pu alexandro. Amigem Dmitri From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7739 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38986 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2011 16:56:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Mar 2011 16:56:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2011 16:56:03 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2011 16:56:01 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2011 16:56:01 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:55:59 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: [MM] No kompre tabak X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=bg5_6Fq6lLOdjX_6CTn0tiP4NFKMFRoOUzApIkHGPv98VP-PfkHnJ5o X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Salut, kompan! Ka tu vol no plus fume tabak? Ka tu vol deskovre ka tu fume = pro ke tu vol o pro ke l' tabak vol? Se tu verei vol saveske ka tu divenab = tabak-sklave, plez probe no plus kompre tabak. Se tu ya vol, tu ya pove. E = se tu falie, tu va abe mem plu bon motive por abandon le tabak. Ka tu acept= ere no plus abe le liberes kompre tabak, nur se tu vol? (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7740 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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I= li pova dicer quale: "ho! esque mi no darfa permisar me tal mikra febleso?"= Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Salut, kompan! Ka tu vol no plus fume tabak? > Ka tu vol= deskovre ka tu fume pro ke tu vol > o pro ke l' tabak vol? Se tu verei vol= saveske > ka tu divenab tabak-sklave, plez probe no > plus kompre tabak. S= e tu ya vol, tu ya pove. > E se tu falie, tu va abe mem plu bon motive > po= r abandon le tabak. Ka tu aceptere no plus > abe le liberes kompre tabak, n= ur se tu vol? > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7741 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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Pardona me que io non completemente comprende lo que tu scribe= re Norvegia e Norway. Como tu sape le prime parola es interlingua e le sec= unde es anglese. In Norvegia nos ha duo versiones de nostre lingua, le nyno= rsk e le bokm=C3=A5l, con su duo manieras a nominar nostre pais: Noreg e No= rge. Io crede que istos son derivate de Nord Rike, que in Germanic voleva e= sser Nort Reich, i.e. le Regno del Nord, in contrasto de Danmark in le sud.= Ambes le Norwegen e Norway indica un via al nord, ma io crede que isto es = un mal interpretation del nomine original. Probabilemente lo que io scribe = hic non es un responsa actual de tu message, ma il es un essayo pro respond= er. Con salutes amical! Osmund Sendt fra min iPad Den 15. mars 2011 kl. 0= 2:54 skrev "qualevistandas" : > Tik-tak, Alexandr= e! > > Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" esas partakalajo; > ol esas mea humorajo por t= radukar "Norway", > tal qual ol dicesas Angla-lingue... > > Kande ulu kelk= e reprimendesas en l'Angla > pro agar poke saje, on dicas a lu ulo similesa= nta > "Norway", lando-nomo quan me uzas jokatre en > tal kazi, e quan hike= me tradukis aden "Norvegia!" > > Do, quoniam cafoye tu trouzis e misuzis = la voyo... > > + Norway, Shandru! Norway! :-) > > P A R T A K A > * * * *= * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > Alexandre Xavier Ca= sanova Domingo skribis: > > Hola, Partaka. > > Quo esas, h= ike, "Norvegia"? > > Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanova Domingo, posto el= ektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > > ----- mesajo o= riginala ----- > > > Hola, Alexandre! > > Me ipsa jus eliminabas 7 ek tu= a 9 recenta > dokumenti, che nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), > sive pro ke li= esis ne-valida por posta_Mundi, > sive pro ke li esis ecesiva e tote ne-op= ortuna. > > Voluntez konstatar tu ipsa quo restis, adminime > provizore, e= n nia arkivo: tua dokumento pri Intal, > e plusa dokumento, ma ca-kaze pri = (ed en) Ikuso. > > Se tu deziras kargar ulo altra en la fako "Archivos" > = (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, oportos ke tu sendez a me, > private, la konkreta = dokumento, e ke me povez durar > fidar a tu ed a tua bona intenco. > > No= rvegia, Shandru! Norvegia! > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > > --Apple-Mail-5--212398868 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Car Partaka!
Pardona me que = io non completemente comprende lo que tu scribe re Norvegia e Norway. Como = tu sape le prime parola es interlingua e le secunde es anglese. In Norvegia= nos ha duo versiones de nostre lingua, le nynorsk e le bokm=C3=A5l, con su= duo manieras a nominar nostre pais: Noreg e Norge. Io crede que istos son = derivate de Nord Rike, que in Germanic voleva esser Nort Reich, i.e. le Reg= no del Nord, in contrasto de Danmark in le sud. Ambes le Norwegen e Norway = indica un via al nord, ma io crede que isto es un mal interpretation del no= mine original.
Probabilemente lo que io scribe hic non es un resp= onsa actual de tu message, ma il es un essayo pro responder.
Con = salutes amical!
Osmund

Sendt fra min iPad

De= n 15. mars 2011 kl. 02:54 skrev "qualevistandas" <qualevistandas@...>:

 <= /span>

Tik-tak, Alexan= dre!

Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" esas partakalajo;
ol esas mea humora= jo por tradukar "Norway",
tal qual ol dicesas Angla-lingue...

= Kande ulu kelke reprimendesas en l'Angla
pro agar poke saje, on dicas a= lu ulo similesanta
"Norway", lando-nomo quan me uzas jokatre en
t= al kazi, e quan hike me tradukis aden "Norvegia!"

Do, quoniam cafo= ye tu trouzis e misuzis la voyo...

+ Norway, Shandru! Norway! :-)<= br>
P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * *

--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
Alexandre Xavier Casanova= Domingo skribis:

Hola, Partaka.

Quo= esas, hike, "Norvegia"?

Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanova Domin= go, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).
----- mesajo originala -----


Hola, Alexandre!

= Me ipsa jus eliminabas 7 ek tua 9 recenta
dokumenti, che nia fako "Arch= ivos" (Arkivi),
sive pro ke li esis ne-valida por posta_Mundi,
sive= pro ke li esis ecesiva e tote ne-oportuna.

Voluntez konstatar tu= ipsa quo restis, adminime
provizore, en nia arkivo: tua dokumento pri = Intal,
e plusa dokumento, ma ca-kaze pri (ed en) Ikuso.

Se tu= deziras kargar ulo altra en la fako "Archivos"
(Arkivi) di posta_Mundi= , oportos ke tu sendez a me,
private, la konkreta dokumento, e ke me po= vez durar
fidar a tu ed a tua bona intenco.

Norvegia, Shandr= u! Norvegia!

P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * *

=
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To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:08:03 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2011 21:08:04.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[1301EE10:01CBE355] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: Solfejo-poemo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=HhTIFaA2vuus0yj-PEiTlQrWToDJpr29DYW2ozMapX4 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kar amiki En la numero 347 di Progreso me trovis interesiva poemo da n= ia amiko Partaka, olqua fondesas sur la bone konocata muzikala serio DO-RE-= MI-FA-SOL-LA-SI. Nur la lasta elemento dil serio, nome SI, frapis me, nam = retropensante a mea puereso me rimemoras vicee TI, ante repeto dil unesma e= lemento DI; do la pueri en Anglia kantas tale: DO-RE-MI-FA-SO-LA-TI-DO = (Anke me rimemoras SO vice SOL.) Semble en altra landi on kantas SI vice T= I. 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=O2onGVNFr3xApZv0z2a_RN_FO03QLzSgBIvQ3pDczsobcVw X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------9C12386284AF2E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable salutos, pu isula dimitrio. menan tuo donan tua nomino, akto kualo esan u= na evidenta progreso. prokue tuo non esan "la" linguodeplanetiko, sino sola= mente una parolanto de kuesa linguo. via altra flanko, tuo redican en tua = mesajo, under, las tipas alegasionos anticiencas de las lideros personistas= desde la etapo precienca de la helpoplanlinguologio. kontra istas manios,= mio sinplamente redicon alkunas principios basas de la autentika cienco, k= on una eksenplo. las resultatos de la cienco non esan propriajo privata de= la deskovranto ou inventanto de una teorio, hipoteso, metodo, sistemo ou m= ekanismo. la cienco esan senpre mejorabla under las resultatos de la eksper= imentasiono ei la observasiono. la eksenplo venan de una konpatriano tua: = isula dimitrio mendeleyevo. kuesta kemikologo non operin en la vakuo, sino = apojato en las resultatos fa altras kemikologos komo isula lotaro meyero (t= esula Lothar Meyer) ma elo donin una teorio plausabla, lojika, konprobabla = ei konprobata sur la sistemo konpleta de las elementos konocatas en sua epo= ko. ansi aparin la famoja tabulo de las elementos fa isula mendeleyevo. ma,= pronto, ono observin alkunas faktos kualos konsilin modifikar la sistemo. = mio non fagon aki una historio de la tabulo fa mendeleyevo, ma mio eksenpla= mente indikon una inportanta modifikasiono: la paso desde la ordino via la = pondero atoma ba la ordino via la numero atoma. ista paso esin necesa para = ordinar las elementos sinplas segon suas propriajos fisikas ei kemikas real= as, konprenundo ke la numero de neutronos non influin realamente en la konp= arasiono de las propriajos de las elementos sinplas. se ono non konputan la= s neutronos, la difereso inter duas elementos radikan en la numero respekti= va de protonos ou elektronos (kada elemento sinpla tenan tantas protonos ku= antas elektronos). ono, donke, modifikin rapidamente la tabulo. eske isula= mendeleyevo protestin ei reivindikin orijineso esklusiva ei nonxanjabla pa= ra sua tabulo? non; elo agnoskin la la laboro fa isula lotaro meyero ou alt= ras konlaborantos, ei elo senpre aceptin ke sua teorio devin esar adaptata = kontinuamente ba las faktos eksperimentas. eksenplamente, elo akceptin, pos= alkunas dubidos, la eksisteso reala de las gasos noblas ei sua ubikasiono = en la tabulo atoma. nosos konservan la nomino orijina, "tabulo de mendeley= evo", ma las kemikologos, naturamente, modifikan la tabulo ei la teorio ato= ma de las elementos, kon ninkuna "respekto" ba isula mendeleyevo, ei sin ev= itar la refereso esplicita ta la orijinanto de la tabulo. mio fagan ninkun= a difereso esenca inter la linguologio ei la kemikologio. itos esan duas ci= encos eksperimentas, sin relijiono, sin personismo, sin propriajo privata d= e las resultatos. vosos, isas duas dimitrios, pretendan fagar cienco. mio,= sinceramente, preferan la estilo cienca de isa dimitrio orijina, isa dimit= rio mendeleyevo. kordialamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo doming= o, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- mesajo= orijina ----- --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casan= ova Domingo escribi=F3: > > salutos novamente, lingwodepla= neto. > mio konsultin las duas lokos internetas citatas fa tuo, ei mio vis= ionin ke itos esan lokos de funciono restriktata ou de ingreso restriktata.= > non, gracios. > felicamente, la naturo politeista ou multicentra de in= terneto permesan superar facilamente atitudos personistas ou miserablas en = aferos kulturas. se mio desiran parolar tesa Lingwa de Planeta sin tua kont= rolo ei sin kontrolo de altros, eksistan multas lokos internetas dove pe ku= eso mio posiblan fagar; ou mio pe kuesas lokos posiblan krear facilamente. = > mio kontinuan pensundo ke la acentasiono de tesa Lingwa de Planeta esan = mala, ei se mio mesajan via tesa Lingwa de Planeta, mio modifikon kuesa sis= temo de acentasiono. probablamente mio esun censurata, silencata ou espulsa= ta de tuas foros se mio mesajun kon kuesa modifikasiono acenta. ma mio non = mesajon sur ei via tesa Lingwa de Planeta en tuas foros. mio uson foros lib= eras. Yu es adulte jen e mog zwo kwo yu yao. Yu mog modifiki alfabet, aks= enta-sistema, yu mog shanji worda, worda-ordina, etf., etf. Sol un remarka:= nami ba resulta bay koy otre nam. Pa exampla, "lingwa de Shandru", oda "li= deshandropla"... Inventi ba koy nam. Kan ba: Partaka yusi Populido. Es var= ianta de Ido, bat Partaka bu shwo, ke ta yusi Ido. Partaka es honeste. Oli = jen gai bi honeste. Trai bi honeste, pu alexandro. Amigem Dmitri ------------9C12386284AF2E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial?

       salutos, pu isula dimitrio.=

       mena= n tuo donan tua nomino, akto kualo esan una evidenta progreso. prokue tuo n= on esan "la" linguodeplanetiko, sino solamente una parolanto de kuesa lingu= o.

      &= nbsp;via altra flanko, tuo redican en tua mesajo, under, las tipas alegasio= nos anticiencas de las lideros personistas desde la etapo precienca de la h= elpoplanlinguologio.

&nbs= p;      kontra istas manios, mio sinplamente redicon alkunas= principios basas de la autentika cienco, kon una eksenplo.

       las resultato= s de la cienco non esan propriajo privata de la deskovranto ou inventanto d= e una teorio, hipoteso, metodo, sistemo ou mekanismo. la cienco esan senpre= mejorabla under las resultatos de la eksperimentasiono ei la observasiono.=

      &nb= sp;la eksenplo venan de una konpatriano tua: isula dimitrio mendeleyevo. ku= esta kemikologo non operin en la vakuo, sino apojato en las resultatos fa a= ltras kemikologos komo isula lotaro meyero (tesula Lothar Meyer) ma elo don= in una teorio plausabla, lojika, konprobabla ei konprobata sur la sistemo k= onpleta de las elementos konocatas en sua epoko. ansi aparin la famoja tabu= lo de las elementos fa isula mendeleyevo. ma, pronto, ono observin alkunas = faktos kualos konsilin modifikar la sistemo. mio non fagon aki una historio= de la tabulo fa mendeleyevo, ma mio eksenplamente indikon una inportanta m= odifikasiono: la paso desde la ordino via la pondero atoma ba la ordino via= la numero atoma. ista paso esin necesa para ordinar las elementos sinplas = segon suas propriajos fisikas ei kemikas realas, konprenundo ke la numero d= e neutronos non influin realamente en la konparasiono de las propriajos de = las elementos sinplas. se ono non konputan las neutronos, la difereso inter= duas elementos radikan en la numero respektiva de protonos ou elektronos (= kada elemento sinpla tenan tantas protonos kuantas elektronos).

=

       ono, donk= e, modifikin rapidamente la tabulo. eske isula mendeleyevo protestin ei rei= vindikin orijineso esklusiva ei nonxanjabla para sua tabulo? non; elo agnos= kin la la laboro fa isula lotaro meyero ou altras konlaborantos, ei elo sen= pre aceptin ke sua teorio devin esar adaptata kontinuamente ba las faktos e= ksperimentas. eksenplamente, elo akceptin, pos alkunas dubidos, la eksistes= o reala de las gasos noblas ei sua ubikasiono en la tabulo atoma.

       nosos k= onservan la nomino orijina, "tabulo de mendeleyevo", ma las kemikologos, na= turamente, modifikan la tabulo ei la teorio atoma de las elementos, kon nin= kuna "respekto" ba isula mendeleyevo, ei sin evitar la refereso esplicita t= a la orijinanto de la tabulo.

       mio fagan ninkuna difereso esenca inter la = linguologio ei la kemikologio. itos esan duas ciencos eksperimentas, sin re= lijiono, sin personismo, sin propriajo privata de las resultatos.

       vosos, = isas duas dimitrios, pretendan fagar cienco. mio, sinceramente, preferan la= estilo cienca de isa dimitrio orijina, isa dimitrio mendeleyevo.

       kordial= amente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@yahoo.= es (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


  &nb= sp;    ----- mesajo orijina -----


&n= bsp;      --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi= =F3:

     =  >

   =    > salutos novamente, lingwodeplaneto.

       > mio konsulti= n las duas lokos internetas citatas fa tuo, ei mio visionin ke itos esan lo= kos de funciono restriktata ou de ingreso restriktata.

       > non, gracios= .

      &n= bsp;> felicamente, la naturo politeista ou multicentra de interneto perm= esan superar facilamente atitudos personistas ou miserablas en aferos kultu= ras. se mio desiran parolar tesa Lingwa de Planeta sin tua kontrolo ei sin = kontrolo de altros, eksistan multas lokos internetas dove pe kueso mio posi= blan fagar; ou mio pe kuesas lokos posiblan krear facilamente.

<= p class=3Drvps2>        > mio k= ontinuan pensundo ke la acentasiono de tesa Lingwa de Planeta esan mala, ei= se mio mesajan via tesa Lingwa de Planeta, mio modifikon kuesa sistemo de = acentasiono. probablamente mio esun censurata, silencata ou espulsata de tu= as foros se mio mesajun kon kuesa modifikasiono acenta. ma mio non mesajon = sur ei via tesa Lingwa de Planeta en tuas foros. mio uson foros liberas.


       Yu es adulte jen e mo= g zwo kwo yu yao. Yu mog modifiki alfabet, aksenta-sistema, yu mog shanji w= orda, worda-ordina, etf., etf. Sol un remarka: nami ba resulta bay koy otre= nam. Pa exampla, "lingwa de Shandru", oda "lideshandropla"... Inventi ba k= oy nam.

    &nb= sp;  Kan ba: Partaka yusi Populido. Es varianta de Ido, bat Partaka bu= shwo, ke ta yusi Ido. Partaka es honeste. Oli jen gai bi honeste. Trai bi = honeste, pu alexandro.

&n= bsp;      Amigem

       Dmitri


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E nun, me probos explikar a tu to, quon tu ne tote komp= renis de mea suba mesajo, ma, unesme, permisez a me klarigar tu, ke tua lan= do nomesas "Norvegia" en Ido. Quale tu maxim probable savas, en l'Angla li= nguo existas la sequanta expresuro: "No way!". Tal expresuro sempre pensiga= s da me a "Norway", nome al nomo di tua lando en l'Angla. Konseque, kom jok= o, me nul-tempe dicas "No way!", ma "Norway!" Tamen, quoniam me devis dica= r "No way!/Norway!" a nia samforumano (Alexandre), ma ne per l'Angla, sed p= er Ido, me dicis ad il mem plu jokoze: "Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia!" (+ No= rway, Shandru! Norway!) Maxim kordial saluto de Partakistan! :-) P A R T= A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Osmund A= ukland skribis: Car Partaka! Pardona me que io non completem= ente comprende lo que tu scribe re Norvegia e Norway. Como tu sape le prime= parola es interlingua e le secunde es anglese. In Norvegia nos ha duo vers= iones de nostre lingua, le nynorsk e le bokm=E5l, con su duo manieras a nom= inar nostre pais: Noreg e Norge. Io crede que istos son derivate de Nord Ri= ke, que in Germanic voleva esser Nort Reich, i.e. le Regno del Nord, in con= trasto de Danmark in le sud. Ambes le Norwegen e Norway indica un via al no= rd, ma io crede que isto es un mal interpretation del nomine original. Prob= abilemente lo que io scribe hic non es un responsa actual de tu message, ma= il es un essayo pro responder. Con salutes amical! Osmund Sendt fra min = iPad Den 15. mars 2011 kl. 02:54 skrev "qualevistandas" : Tik-tak, Alexandre! Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" esas partakalajo; ol esas= mea humorajo por tradukar "Norway", tal qual ol dicesas Angla-lingue... = Kande ulu kelke reprimendesas en l'Angla pro agar poke saje, on dicas a lu = ulo similesanta "Norway", lando-nomo quan me uzas jokatre en tal kazi, e q= uan hike me tradukis aden "Norvegia!" 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=6iE2e3ev0pjUd-8EPFrvhS4XehOUj9KJwsW5JU-ZHa8s0AaSjtd_NQqi X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Resalutos, pu isula alexandro xaviero kasanovo domingo. Sembli a me ke y= u fai konklusa bifoo en-jan reale situasion. Por koy kausa yu dumi, ke lide= pla hev "netushebla fundamento" e ke nul jen mog shanji lidepla. Bu es ver.= Me shwo a yu: lidepla bu hev "netushebla fundamento"; developa de lidepla= gei determini bay shwoer, t.e. toy jen kel zun lidepla. In pasi-ney yar ch= u-te Basike Version, bat it bu es "netushebla fundamento", es sol un-ney ve= rsion. In sey yar nove version 1.1 ve chu, dar ve ye aika mucho ada e shanj= a. Se simili versiones de koy kompyuter-programa: Word 6, Word 7, Word 8, e= tf. Hu mog proposi nove idea, shanja, nove worda? Oli jen. Kwesti ba vaika= Attilio o Carlos, li he influsi developa de lidepla aika seriosem. Sedey l= idepla es yo produktura de mucho jen. Me selfa wud neva mog zwo se olo pa s= ole. Oli jen kel fai interes om lidepla e yao ko-gun (kunlabori), li ko-gun= . Bifoo fai filosofia, wud treba fai interes om realitaa. Amikalemente, = fa isula dimitri viktorovich ivanov. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,= Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3: > > salutos,= pu isula dimitrio. > menan tuo donan tua nomino, akto kualo esan una evid= enta progreso. prokue tuo non esan "la" linguodeplanetiko, sino solamente u= na parolanto de kuesa linguo. > via altra flanko, tuo redican en tua mesaj= o, under, las tipas alegasionos anticiencas de las lideros personistas desd= e la etapo precienca de la helpoplanlinguologio. > kontra istas manios, mi= o sinplamente redicon alkunas principios basas de la autentika cienco, kon = una eksenplo. > las resultatos de la cienco non esan propriajo privata de = la deskovranto ou inventanto de una teorio, hipoteso, metodo, sistemo ou me= kanismo. la cienco esan senpre mejorabla under las resultatos de la eksperi= mentasiono ei la observasiono. > la eksenplo venan de una konpatriano tua:= isula dimitrio mendeleyevo. kuesta kemikologo non operin en la vakuo, sino= apojato en las resultatos fa altras kemikologos komo isula lotaro meyero (= tesula Lothar Meyer) ma elo donin una teorio plausabla, lojika, konprobabla= ei konprobata sur la sistemo konpleta de las elementos konocatas en sua ep= oko. ansi aparin la famoja tabulo de las elementos fa isula mendeleyevo. ma= , pronto, ono observin alkunas faktos kualos konsilin modifikar la sistemo.= mio non fagon aki una historio de la tabulo fa mendeleyevo, ma mio eksenpl= amente indikon una inportanta modifikasiono: la paso desde la ordino via la= pondero atoma ba la ordino via la numero atoma. ista paso esin necesa para= ordinar las elementos sinplas segon suas propriajos fisikas ei kemikas rea= las, konprenundo ke la numero de neutronos non influin realamente en la kon= parasiono de las propriajos de las elementos sinplas. se ono non konputan l= as neutronos, la difereso inter duas elementos radikan en la numero respekt= iva de protonos ou elektronos (kada elemento sinpla tenan tantas protonos k= uantas elektronos). > ono, donke, modifikin rapidamente la tabulo. eske is= ula mendeleyevo protestin ei reivindikin orijineso esklusiva ei nonxanjabla= para sua tabulo? non; elo agnoskin la la laboro fa isula lotaro meyero ou = altras konlaborantos, ei elo senpre aceptin ke sua teorio devin esar adapta= ta kontinuamente ba las faktos eksperimentas. eksenplamente, elo akceptin, = pos alkunas dubidos, la eksisteso reala de las gasos noblas ei sua ubikasio= no en la tabulo atoma. > nosos konservan la nomino orijina, "tabulo de men= deleyevo", ma las kemikologos, naturamente, modifikan la tabulo ei la teori= o atoma de las elementos, kon ninkuna "respekto" ba isula mendeleyevo, ei s= in evitar la refereso esplicita ta la orijinanto de la tabulo. > mio fagan= ninkuna difereso esenca inter la linguologio ei la kemikologio. itos esan = duas ciencos eksperimentas, sin relijiono, sin personismo, sin propriajo pr= ivata de las resultatos. > vosos, isas duas dimitrios, pretendan fagar cie= nco. mio, sinceramente, preferan la estilo cienca de isa dimitrio orijina, = isa dimitrio mendeleyevo. > kordialamente, fa isula alexandro xaviero kasa= novo domingo, imeilo trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > > --= --- mesajo orijina ----- > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, Alexandr= e Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi=F3: > > > > salutos novamen= te, lingwodeplaneto. > > mio konsultin las duas lokos internetas citatas f= a tuo, ei mio visionin ke itos esan lokos de funciono restriktata ou de ing= reso restriktata. > > non, gracios. > > felicamente, la naturo politeista= ou multicentra de interneto permesan superar facilamente atitudos personis= tas ou miserablas en aferos kulturas. se mio desiran parolar tesa Lingwa de= Planeta sin tua kontrolo ei sin kontrolo de altros, eksistan multas lokos = internetas dove pe kueso mio posiblan fagar; ou mio pe kuesas lokos posibla= n krear facilamente. > > mio kontinuan pensundo ke la acentasiono de tesa = Lingwa de Planeta esan mala, ei se mio mesajan via tesa Lingwa de Planeta, = mio modifikon kuesa sistemo de acentasiono. probablamente mio esun censurat= a, silencata ou espulsata de tuas foros se mio mesajun kon kuesa modifikasi= ono acenta. ma mio non mesajon sur ei via tesa Lingwa de Planeta en tuas fo= ros. mio uson foros liberas. > > Yu es adulte jen e mog zwo kwo yu yao. Y= u mog modifiki alfabet, aksenta-sistema, yu mog shanji worda, worda-ordina,= etf., etf. Sol un remarka: nami ba resulta bay koy otre nam. Pa exampla, "= lingwa de Shandru", oda "lideshandropla"... Inventi ba koy nam. > Kan ba: = Partaka yusi Populido. Es varianta de Ido, bat Partaka bu shwo, ke ta yusi = Ido. Partaka es honeste. Oli jen gai bi honeste. Trai bi honeste, pu alexan= dro. > Amigem > Dmitri > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7748 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82925 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2011 09:20:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2011 09:20:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mta1.eidsiva.net) (82.147.40.130) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2011 09:20:10 -0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsDABYegE1SkygDgWdsb2JhbACCW4FjlCCGOYYbaQEBFiYlr2uRL4RsdgSBdYoEAWSDTYIqfA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,193,1299452400"; d="scan'208,217";a="42926494" X-Received: from mail.bbnett.no (HELO bbnett.no) ([82.147.40.3]) by mtc1.eidsiva.net with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2011 10:20:10 +0100 X-Received: from [87.248.6.12] (helo=[192.168.1.5]) by bbnett.no with esmtp (Exim 4.32 #6 (Debian)) id 1Pzmtl-0007s9-8A for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:20:09 +0100 References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--162489038 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <58A50027-E0DD-4FD7-88F6-3ABC9CB3E484@...> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:20:30 +0100 To: "posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8C148) From: Osmund Aukland Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=337052799 --Apple-Mail-12--162489038 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Multe gratias a te Partaka pro tu explication de iste phraze. On pote fors= an usar in interlingua "Norvegia mon amico, norvegia io vole facer lo!" ? := D Con salutes cordial del montanas nivate de Norvegia. Osmund Sendt fra m= in iPad Den 16. mars 2011 kl. 02:00 skrev "qualevistandas" : > Estimat Osmund: > > Danko pro tua tre informiva mesajo > p= ri tua lando (Norvegia), oltqua esos > advere util a ni, membri di posta_Mu= ndi, > qui certe anxias sempre plus lernar. > > E nun, me probos explikar = a tu to, quon > tu ne tote komprenis de mea suba mesajo, > ma, unesme, perm= isez a me klarigar tu, > ke tua lando nomesas "Norvegia" en Ido. > > Quale= tu maxim probable savas, en l'Angla > linguo existas la sequanta expresuro= : "No way!". > Tal expresuro sempre pensigas da me a "Norway", > nome al no= mo di tua lando en l'Angla. Konseque, > kom joko, me nul-tempe dicas "No wa= y!", ma "Norway!" > > Tamen, quoniam me devis dicar "No way!/Norway!" > a = nia samforumano (Alexandre), ma ne per l'Angla, > sed per Ido, me dicis ad = il mem plu jokoze: > "Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia!" (+ Norway, Shandru! Nor= way!) > > Maxim kordial saluto de Partakistan! :-) > > P A R T A K A > * = * * * * * * * * > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > Osmund Aukl= and skribis: > > Car Partaka! > Pardona me que io non comple= temente comprende lo que tu scribe re Norvegia e Norway. Como tu sape le pr= ime parola es interlingua e le secunde es anglese. In Norvegia nos ha duo v= ersiones de nostre lingua, le nynorsk e le bokm=C3=A5l, con su duo manieras= a nominar nostre pais: Noreg e Norge. Io crede que istos son derivate de N= ord Rike, que in Germanic voleva esser Nort Reich, i.e. le Regno del Nord, = in contrasto de Danmark in le sud. Ambes le Norwegen e Norway indica un via= al nord, ma io crede que isto es un mal interpretation del nomine original= . > Probabilemente lo que io scribe hic non es un responsa actual de tu mes= sage, ma il es un essayo pro responder. > Con salutes amical! > Osmund > >= Sendt fra min iPad > > Den 15. mars 2011 kl. 02:54 skrev "qualevistandas"= : > > Tik-tak, Alexandre! > > Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" e= sas partakalajo; > ol esas mea humorajo por tradukar "Norway", > tal qual o= l dicesas Angla-lingue... > > Kande ulu kelke reprimendesas en l'Angla > p= ro agar poke saje, on dicas a lu ulo similesanta > "Norway", lando-nomo qua= n me uzas jokatre en > tal kazi, e quan hike me tradukis aden "Norvegia!" = > > Do, quoniam cafoye tu trouzis e misuzis la voyo... > > + Norway, Shan= dru! Norway! :-) > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > > --Apple-Mail-12--162489038 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Multe gratias  a te Partaka pro t= u explication de iste phraze.
On pote forsan usar in interlingua = "Norvegia mon amico, norvegia io vole facer lo!" ?
: D
= Con salutes cordial del montanas nivate de Norvegia.
Osmund
Sendt fra min iPad

Den 16. mars 2011 kl. 02:00 skrev "quale= vistandas" <qualevistandas@ya= hoo.es>:

=  
=

Estimat Osmund:

Danko pro tua tre informiva = mesajo
pri tua lando (Norvegia), oltqua esos
advere util a ni, mem= bri di posta_Mundi,
qui certe anxias sempre plus lernar.

E nun= , me probos explikar a tu to, quon
tu ne tote komprenis de mea suba mes= ajo,
ma, unesme, permisez a me klarigar tu,
ke tua lando nomesas "N= orvegia" en Ido.

Quale tu maxim probable savas, en l'Angla
lin= guo existas la sequanta expresuro: "No way!".
Tal expresuro sempre pens= igas da me a "Norway",
nome al nomo di tua lando en l'Angla. Konseque,<= br> kom joko, me nul-tempe dicas "No way!", ma "Norway!"

Tamen, qu= oniam me devis dicar "No way!/Norway!"
a nia samforumano (Alexandre), m= a ne per l'Angla,
sed per Ido, me dicis ad il mem plu jokoze:
"Norv= egia, Shandru! Norvegia!" (+ Norway, Shandru! Norway!)

Maxim kordi= al saluto de Partakistan! :-)

P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * * =


--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com,
Osmund Aukland skribis:

Car Partak= a!
Pardona me que io non completemente comprende lo que tu scribe re No= rvegia e Norway. Como tu sape le prime parola es interlingua e le secunde e= s anglese. In Norvegia nos ha duo versiones de nostre lingua, le nynorsk e = le bokm=C3=A5l, con su duo manieras a nominar nostre pais: Noreg e Norge. I= o crede que istos son derivate de Nord Rike, que in Germanic voleva esser N= ort Reich, i.e. le Regno del Nord, in contrasto de Danmark in le sud. Ambes= le Norwegen e Norway indica un via al nord, ma io crede que isto es un mal= interpretation del nomine original.
Probabilemente lo que io scribe hi= c non es un responsa actual de tu message, ma il es un essayo pro responder= .
Con salutes amical!
Osmund

Sendt fra min iPad

= Den 15. mars 2011 kl. 02:54 skrev "qualevistandas"
Tik-tak, Alexandre!

Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" esas part= akalajo;
ol esas mea humorajo por tradukar "Norway",
tal qual ol di= cesas Angla-lingue...

Kande ulu kelke reprimendesas en l'Angla pro agar poke saje, on dicas a lu ulo similesanta
"Norway", lando-nom= o quan me uzas jokatre en
tal kazi, e quan hike me tradukis aden "Norv= egia!"

Do, quoniam cafoye tu trouzis e misuzis la voyo...
+ Norway, Shandru! Norway! :-)

P A R T A K A
* * * * * * *= * *

=
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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5420 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2011 13:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Mar 2011 13:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2011 13:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2011 13:45:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2011 13:45:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:45:40 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Ke-kause Neutral, Occidental, Novial? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=zwGdLiW6_fbI4NajwuoeEi_lpUYdZRXMYOVeTxi8z_dxouJubWSK1AHy8GZz X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kara Alexandre! Mi parlektav li gramatika de Ikuso, quel tu inkargav al ark= ives de posta_Mundi. Es interesanta. E anke mi tre aprecia tei id=E9a, que = interlinguistika es un sciente experimental. Ma nomim de vid-punkte de expe= rimental sciente mi til nun no pova komprender, pro quo tu selektav tal ark= aik forma por tei preferat lingua, Ikuso. Mi dice pri esperantik modele de = gramatika. Experimental interlinguistika per uzo de diversa artificial ling= uas, komensante de Idiom Neutral e plu - Occidental, Novial, Interlingua, t= ei amat Intal, e anke kelka nova linguas hike che posta_Mundi, uzo de omna = ta linguas demonstra, que quande homes komprende linguas, maxim importanta = es komprendo de radikes signifikant, dum que finales de paroles nur es auxi= liara. On pova alquel komunikar per un lingua quale "mi tu kompren", ube es= alquel radikes signifikant, ma quel es tote sin gramatika. E kontraverse o= n tote no pova komunikar per un lingua quale "oni umu pri io ajn", quel hav= e nur gramatika, ma no have radikes signifikant. Vokabularium es plu import= ant. Pro to nul bezone existe, que paroles deve eser uniformat tale, que om= na substantives fina per -o, omna adjektives fina per -a, omna verbes per -= n if ne per -ar, etc. Mi no vole dicer, que iste es tote no akceptebla. Esp= eranto e Ido uza tal gramatika e funkciona bone. Ma quande Esperanto e Ido = esev kreat? In 1887 e 1907 aproximante, tre longe ante nun. Ma uzar tal ark= aik gramatika por krear linguas in 21 sekul? To sembla a me stranja. If fo= rjetar fro gramatika de Esperanto o Ido omna finales -s de verbes, eske ta-= kazim textes devenara min komprenebla? No, ili nur sonara plu bone. Ma espe= rantistes o idistes no pova facer to, pro que ili es sklaves de esperantism= e o idisme. Partaka kreav Populido, e tale plus-foyim demonstrav, que tal s= istemas quale Ikuso es peza e arkaik. E anque Tiberio kreav Eurikido, quel = quankam es ne tante extremal quam Populido, ma anque demonstra moderni tend= encies. E quo koncernu Ikuso - isto es alquo ex 19 sekul. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7750 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=358636004; y=lZFA25PK9RTryr_Yv8xHK5rX798gmPljm46Cj2Rmxz1HpVVqPDfFgtU X-Yahoo-Profile: hispanahirundo Hodie, la organizanto dil somerala kurso pri haiku ye mea provinco (Hispan-= Amerikana renkontro) konfirmis me ke me parolis dum kelka minuti pri la hai= ku ye plusa lingui. Pro to, me parolis pri la haiku en la nacionala lingui,= ma me anke volas parolar pri artificiala lingui. Me dezirus havar haiku-= i en omna l'artificiala lingui. Fakte, me ja havas un haiku da Basho traduk= ita hike, ma me ne havas, exemple, la Volap=FCk-ala tradukajo. Amikale, An= tonio. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7752 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Received: from Alexandre.local.lan (trigrupo@79.145.191.66 with plain) by smtp122.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2011 23:26:08 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: E54yvcSswBCjl3sQ2d64ONs5Xpwh X-YMail-OSG: Mn.TyZcVM1kTcFssl_SS4wa_xnqfc_hpZboenIGC2QufjAP vWcbo624FAz0nA4_jwCeHyIsQtHIxCUjP_YbyBotsoZQZcpt9cwNwQ0ExVR_ K_1lAhAeyG4KK5Iwjf0W_vaR10uCehr11EpgKEZNAaqghY9sT_P._4wwZ24B CFaeoPIUHRQcu.NKr11.JUAKU4cuZ7W.ECAWlODWsSqvSnRBcA23gUo6O8jL 5Ya93CgMgir8xMRtiXqpVWBgKHpsALH8QKAQ1GG3mP5jbKw7TjHK7FH6x9wJ lnYFhQdy0CK9hTjo24BQBeL5l_UPVS3JEvQBaZWU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:26:10 +0100 Organization: Pensador independente X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <43801459.20110317002610@...> To: qualevistandas In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------5451E01F466E2" From: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Reply-To: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Subject: Re: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=6rYhfM9JKGvEfpYIdH7_0hzFr5ClFzVFDCMxmYd8kzgElNE X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------5451E01F466E2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola denove, Partaka. Me esas mediokra* (mibona) komencanto en la linguo = Ido, do me fristos mea respondo kompleta, por ne esor "eterna e mibona kome= ncanto" e por redaktor per pasable aceptebla Ido. Me esas idoparolanto, ne = idisto, ma la linguo Ido meritas respekto mealatere... Me deziras filozofar= per Ido, hike ed en altra loki, do me devus esor kapabla de parolar e skri= bar per Ido, minime, quale la meza parolanti de ica helpoplanlinguo. Tale,= en ica mesajo preliminara, me nur tushos du aspekti, fristante la argument= ado precipua por nova mesajo. Unesme, me dicas ke me ne aceptas nek aproba= s tua agado pri mea arkivi didaktika cirkum Ikuso; ma me agnoskas ke la pro= blemo havas duesma kategorio. Duesme, me agnoskas ke existas problemo kun = la spaco por la arkivi en la listo posta_Mundi. Fakte, quaze la duimo de l= a spaco ja okupesis! Provizore, me pensis ideo. Me jus kreis nova helpoli= sto por arkivi, nome "posta_Mundi arkivi". Yen la adreso: http://es.groups= .yahoo.com/group/postamundiarkivi/ E yen la kurta (nur provizora) deskript= uro: "Ret-situo por arkivi de posta_Mundi. Yen la ret-situo por mesaji: htt= p://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/". Me ne deziras durar quale mas= tro de la nova listo por arkivi. Me preferas cedar la kontrolo a tu, od ad = altra membro de la listo precipua. Mea konfliktiva idei, specifike pri la m= ovadi cirkum Ido e la altra helpoplanlingui, konsilas ke me ne okupez "poli= tikala" funcioni pri la helpoplanlingui, agante nur quale linguisto e quale= filozofo, en ica lasta kazo filozofiante per la helpoplanlingui. Me ja par= olis pri la afero kande aparis la revuo "Posta Mundi". Yen exemplo: me pre= paras tradukado aden Esperanto de pamfleto, originale per la Angla, plena d= e odio kontre Esperanto e kontre la esperantisti. Odio ne esas solvilo, ma = me pensas ke ni, la esperantoparolanti ed esperantisti, meritas konocar la = argumenti de la Anglo quo odias nia linguo. Or: se me publikas mea tradukad= o en la fako por arkivi de posta_Mundi... yen publikuro ne neutrala, ne qua= le broshuri didaktika pri un euroklono. Mea tradukado povus kauzar indigno,= ne dezirata da me. Ni, tradukanti, esas neutrala, ne milicani, ma hike ed = en Irak... ja onu akuzis me en kelka ambienti esperantista quale destruktan= to de la linguo Esperanto kande me anuncis ke me tradukus la pamfleto. Nu, = forsan la pamfleto devus publikesar en forumo specifike pensita por polemik= aji, ne en komuna forumo por helpoplanlingui. Me devus konsultar. Yen do m= ea mesajo. Mea mediokra* (mibona) Ido povas kauzar konfuzo, ma nur per mibo= na Ido me iros aden pasable bona Ido. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo = Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo @ yahoo punto es (trigrupo arobo yahoo = punto es). ----- Mesajo originala ----- Hola, Alexandre! Me ipsa jus= eliminabas 7 ek tua 9 recenta dokumenti, che nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi),= sive pro ke li esis ne-valida por posta_Mundi, sive pro ke li esis ecesiva= e tote ne-oportuna. Voluntez konstatar tu ipsa quo restis, adminime provi= zore, en nia arkivo: tua dokumento pri Intal, e plusa dokumento, ma ca-kaze= pri (ed en) Ikuso. Se tu deziras kargar ulo altra en la fako "Archivos" (= Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, oportos ke tu sendez a me, private, la konkreta dok= umento, e ke me povez durar fidar a tu ed a tua bona intenco. Norvegia, S= handru! Norvegia! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * ------------5451E01F466E2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi
(Mesajo da Jean Martignon, che plura Ido-forumi)=

 
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Kara samideani,

Hodie matine, me parsendis la n=C2= =B0 3/2010 di KURIERO INTERNACIONA. Me sempre adjuntas ke me povis efektiga= r ica numero danke la helpo da nia amiko Fernando Tejon e danke lua laboro-= savo. En ita numero vi povos lektar inter altri :

1/ La templo Vishw= anath
2/ Novelo : Madelon la hundo
3/ Hodiea vivo en moderna Chinia4/ Ekologio : Futura koquarto en Europa
5/ Dunhuang, la maxim anciena = cielo-mapo
6/ La figureti di Acambaro

Ed anke plur altra interesi= va artikli.

Bona lekto ! JM :::-:::

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RAPSODIO V Eos= ekiris la lito dil glorioza Tithon, por portar la lumo a la Nemortivi ed a= la mortivi. La Dei sidis en konsilo, e meze di li esis Zevs, qua tondras = en la altaji e di qua la potenteso esas maxim granda. Ed Athenaie memorigi= s da li la grandanombra obstakli sur la voyo di Odissevs. Nome, el memoris= pri lu kun tristeso pro ke il retenesis en la domi di Nimfo : - Ho Patro = Zevs, e vi, felica Dei qui sempre vivas, timez ke ceptro-portanta rejo ne = plus irgatempe esez dolca, nek klementa, ma ke, fore de havar equitatoza p= ensi, lu esez harda e neyusta, se nulu memoras pri la deala Odissevs inter = ti quin lu guvernis quaze patro dolcesoza. Yen ke lu jacas, dum subisar kr= uela chagreni, en l'insulo ed en la domi dil Nimfo Kalipso qua retenas lu = per koakto, ed il ne povas retroirar a la sulo di lua patrio, nam il havas= nek navi armizita per remili, nek kompanuli qui povus duktar ilu sur la v= asta dorso di la maro. E yen, nun onu volas ocidar lua amata filiulo lor l= ua retroveno a lua domi, nam il departis, en la skopo informar su pri lua = patro, por la deala Pylos e la famoza Lakedaimon. Lore Zevs qua amasigas l= a nubi respondis ad el : - Ho filiino mea, quala parolo eskapis de inter tu= a denti ? Kad tu ne ipsa deliberis en tua mento por ke Odissevs retrovenez= e su venjez ? Tu duktez Telemakhos sorgoze, nam tu povas lo, por ke lu re= trovenez sana e sekura a la sulo di lua patrio, e la Pretendanti retroiros= sur lia navi. Tale ilu parolis, ed il dicis ad Hermeias, ilua kara filiulo= : - Ho Hermeias, tu qua esas la anuncanto dil Dei, irez por dicar a la Nim= fo havanta bela hari, ke ni rezolvis la retroveno di Odissevs. Elu lasez i= lu departar. Sen ke ula Deo od ula mortiva homo duktez lu, sur rafto union= ita da ligili, sola, e subisanta nova chagreni, il parvenos ye la duadekes= ma dio a la fertila Skherie, olqua esas la lando dil Phaiakiani decendant= i dil Dei. E la Phaiakiani en lia mento honorumizos lu quaze Deo, ed li re= trosendos ilu sur navo aden la kara sulo di lua patrio, e li donos a lu ab= undante bronzo, oro e vesti, tale ke Odissevs ne adportabus tanta kozi de = Troie, kaze ke lu retrovenabus sana e sekura, recevinta lua parto de rapta= jo. Tale lua destino esar rividor lua amiki e retrovenor aden lua alta dom= o e sur la sulo di lua patrio. (Duro sequos) --0-2012741310-1300408823=:77091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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RAPSODIO V

Eos ekiris la lito dil g= lorioza Tithon, por portar la lumo a la Nemortivi ed a la mortivi. La Dei s= idis en konsilo, e meze di li esis Zevs, qua tondras en la altaji e di qua = la potenteso esas maxim granda. Ed Athenaie memorigis da li la grandanombra= obstakli sur la voyo di Odissevs. Nome, el memoris pri lu kun tristeso pro= ke il retenesis en la domi di Nimfo :
- Ho Patro Zevs, e vi, felica Dei= qui sempre vivas, timez ke ceptro-portanta rejo ne plus irgatempe esez dol= ca, nek klementa, ma ke, fore de havar equitatoza pensi, lu esez harda e ne= yusta, se nulu memoras pri la deala Odissevs inter ti quin lu guvernis quaz= e patro dolcesoza. Yen ke lu jacas, dum subisar kruela chagreni, en l'insul= o ed en la domi dil Nimfo Kalipso qua retenas lu per koakto, ed il ne povas= retroirar a la sulo di lua patrio, nam il havas nek navi armizita per remi= li, nek kompanuli qui povus duktar ilu sur la vasta dorso di la maro. E ye= n, nun onu volas ocidar lua amata filiulo lor lua retroveno a lua domi, nam= il departis, en la skopo informar su pri lua patro, por la deala Pylos e l= a famoza Lakedaimon.
Lore Zevs qua amasigas la nubi respondis ad el :- Ho filiino mea, quala parolo eskapis de inter tua denti ? Kad tu ne ipsa= deliberis en tua mento por ke Odissevs retrovenez e su venjez ? Tu duktez = Telemakhos sorgoze, nam tu povas lo, por ke lu retrovenez sana e sekura a l= a sulo di lua patrio, e la Pretendanti retroiros sur lia navi.
Tale ilu = parolis, ed il dicis ad Hermeias, ilua kara filiulo :
- Ho Hermeias, tu = qua esas la anuncanto dil Dei, irez por dicar a la Nimfo havanta bela hari,= ke ni rezolvis la retroveno di Odissevs. Elu lasez ilu departar. Sen ke ul= a Deo od ula mortiva homo duktez lu, sur rafto unionita da ligili, sola, e = subisanta nova chagreni, il parvenos ye la duadekesma dio a la fertila Skh= erie, olqua esas la lando dil  Phaiakiani decendanti dil Dei. E la Pha= iakiani en lia mento honorumizos lu quaze Deo, ed li retrosendos ilu sur na= vo aden la kara sulo di lua patrio, e li donos a lu abundante bronzo, oro e= vesti, tale ke Odissevs ne adportabus tanta kozi de Troie, kaze ke&nb= sp;lu retrovenabus sana e sekura, recevinta lua parto de raptajo. Tale lua = destino esar rividor lua amiki e retrovenor aden lua alta domo e sur la sul= o di lua patrio.

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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59024 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2011 02:24:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2011 02:24:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2011 02:24:51 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 02:24:50 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 02:24:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:24:49 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=pEv1i1wKLsvd4WZfjSfhIk6PaDwULZRmasFYKkTz0UyrzZVwjKC89Kc X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Bon jorno, mondo! Yen nia frazo #28, qua ja tradukesis aden la 14 sequanta= LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Ling, Mo= ndlango/Ulango, Sambahsa, Sibelingua, ARIEL, Paqatyl, Eurikido, LdP, Popul= ido. Esperanto: Li shatas stiri novajn autojn, kaj hierau li vendis sian = malnovan. Ido: Il prizas duktar nov automobili, e hiere il vendis sua anci= en automobilo. Interlingua: Ille ama conducer autos nove, e heri ille vend= eva su auto vetule. Novial: Lo prisa dukte nov automobiles, e yer lo venda= d sen ansien automobile. Idiom Neutral: Il am vehiklar automobili nov, e p= residiurne il vendav sue automobil ansian. Ling: Il am dukt nov auto, e je= r il vend se old auto. Mondlango/Ulango: Hi aman drivi nova awtos, ay hier= e hi vendin hia disnova awto. Sambahsa: Is preiht wehghe nov autos, ed ghe= s is hat pohrnt sien veut auto. Sibelingua: Il aprecia dukter nov automobi= les, e hiere il vendav su old automobile. ARIEL: Ile se diverta guidar aut= os nove Ed heri ile vendeva su auto vetule. Paqatyl: Xofmeket pa novai avt= o yle aimer. Noven avtot se sva yle hertym antkavper. Eurikido: L=FCo laik= et ducere novi autos, e =E4ier l=FCo vendi le soi v=EBii auto. LdP: Lu pri= dukti nove autos, e yeri lu vendi-te suy lao auto. Populido: Il priz dukt= e nov auto's, e yer il vende sui ansien auto. Se posibla, voluntez traduk= ar nia frazo #28 aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Volap= =FCk, Latino sine Flexione, Neo, Glosa, LFN, od irg altra helpo-lingui neut= ra, quin vi konocas. Danko ed adavane, amiki! * * * * * * * * p a r t a = k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7766 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72235 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2011 12:48:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2011 12:48:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2011 12:48:13 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 12:48:12 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 12:48:12 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:48:09 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RE:_paroles-frates_-_un_id=E9a_interlingustik?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=AkO7z-doN_md_VFNLlO1tR-70r9hPswpjgTUn4TXZ4hIMb_Y3UehkWcSlfjI X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Danko, Dmitri pro tei respondo. Yes, de un latere, tei exemples "udar - dar= ba" es segun li tema. De altra latere, mi espera, que on pova trovar plu pe= rsuadiva similajes, if serchar ne nur in 10-12 maxim influiva linguas, qual= e es skribat che tei ret-pajine, ma in plu granda quanto de linguas. Wikti= onary e li diktionar de Guglo es utila instrumentes, quankam regretinde mem= ili no es suficianta. Mi tamen trovav du o tri plusi exemples por klarifik= ar li id=E9a. 1) Fayro (Esp: "fajro", Neutral: "fok", Ido: "fairo") LdP d= ona "agni". Kantonesi dialekto de Chinesi: "fo"; Lingua Thai: "fai"; nu, = okcident-europan variantes de simil forma es multa. Tale, du nedependanta = lingual familias produktav plu-min un forma, segun mei versione - "fay". "= Agni" semble es renkontrabla nur in un lingual familia, in Hind-Europan. 2= ) Lingua. Li linguas de familia Tyurk e plu granda familia Altai dona "lin= gua"=3D"til" (anke variantes min frequenta es "dil", "tel"); Linguas de ned= ependanta Germanik familia: Afrikaans: "taal"; Limburgish: "taol"; Westi Fr= isian: "taal". Esque nur por me to sembla, que til, tel - taal es simil? Nu= , semble, li forma "til" es konosat da plu multa homes, quam "taal". Tale,= mi dedukta "lingua"=3D"til". 3) Munde. Pri ista kaze mi dubita, ma mi no= trovav alquo plu bon: Japonesi: "sekai"; Koreesi: "segye"; Chinesi - Min = Nan: "se-kai" Europan exemples de alquo simil semble es nur ex ancien ling= uas e no es uzat moderne. Scottish Gaelic: "saoghal"; Moderni Irlandesi "sa= ol" quankam no es tante simil, ma anque quale "saoghal" devena de Latinik "= saeculum", quel pova signifikar no nur 100 yares, ma anke longeso de homal = vivo, e anke, if plu abstrakte, signifika home, li Home, e anque omna homes= in li munde, li munde in toto. Tale mi deduktav "munde"=3D"sekay". Yen m= i nun have mem un labori nome por li lingua: "Sekay Til", o "Sekaytil". Ro= sto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lingwadeplaneta" escribi=F3: > > > > Similitaa de suon-forma in pluri lingw= a es un de shefe prinsip ke Lidepla yusi fo selekti worda. Kan ba sait: > h= ttp://lingwadeplaneta.info/svodka.shtml > http://lingwadeplaneta.info/descr= ip.shtml > > Similitaa de suon-forma zuy oftem origini fon rishtitaa, bat = koyves burishte worda toshi mog suoni similem. Kompari: udar (ruski), darab= a (arabi), da (han). Nu yusi se. > Ob yu bu merki ke "hao" idyen simili "h= orosho"? ke "kway" simili "quickly"? Etf. > > Dmitri > > > > > --- En= posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > = > > > Saluto a omnes. > > > > A-in mei kape un interlinguistik id=E9a veni= v, quel es tante simpla, que certe alqui ja pensav pri iste o mem facev alq= uo. Esque vi save alquo? > > > > Li id=E9a es, quale krear un neutral ling= ua de tipe quale Lingwa de Planeta (kontenant paroles del omna munde), ma q= uel baza sur objektiv realeso, tale, que nulqui pova dicer, que tal lingua = depende de su kreatore o de un grupe de homes. > > > > Yen por exemple: >= > Hispanik verbe "mirar" e japonik "miru" have preske identik signifiko - = spektar, regardar, e "miru" semble signifika no nur spektar, ma anque "vide= r", ma iste no es importanta. Mi tale supoza, que ista du paroles-frates no= pova eser parenti. Es komprendebla, que tal simileso devena de koincido. = > > > > If kolektar suficianta quanto de tal non-parenti, koincidanta paro= les-frates, iste pova eser bona baze por un lingua internacional extreme ne= utral. On pova serchar no nur in tal granda linguas quale Hispanik e Japoni= k, ma anque in linguas parolat da exemplim nur un milion homes. > > Nur un = problema es - iste es un tre granda laboro. > > > > Rosto. > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7767 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55072 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2011 13:18:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2011 13:18:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc2-s16.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.91) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2011 13:18:33 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W15 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s16.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Mar 2011 06:18:33 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:18:32 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2011 13:18:33.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB625580:01CBE56E] From: James Chandler Subject: [GLOBALISMO] Mondala Guvernerio deklaras milito kontre Libia X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=EPKRBvUiaF9QHLAA_Mu8UPfN0fH8eN3dmLJ_F0Qc214 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc NOVA MILITO: La Mondala Guvernerio, per la Unionita Nacioni, deklaras mi= lito kontre Libia. La Sekureso-Konsilistaro dil UN votis por establisar "= sen-aviaca zono" super Libia, tale invadonte la aero-spaco libiana. Anke = posibla esos de-aera ataki kontre libiana soldati surtera. Noto historial= a: La MG establisis "sen-aviaca zono" super Irak dum la 1990a yari, ante in= vadar ol tote en 2003. Globalista militema saluti = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7768 Return-Path: X-Sender: cafaristeir@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75141 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2011 13:50:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2011 13:50:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2011 13:50:23 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 13:50:22 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 13:50:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:50:21 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "cafaristeir" Subject: RE: [GLOBALISMO] Mondala Guvernerio deklaras milito kontre Libia X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=311484367; y=LKNw57BElfHkmCjYMlXZHZDbRWmnGJJc01xujQ3OMwZ757WgDjA X-Yahoo-Profile: cafaristeir > NOVA MILITO: > > La Mondala Guvernerio, per la Unionita Nacioni, dekl= aras milito kontre Libia. > Yo pensa que it es exagerat dir que li Nation= s Unit ha "declarat li guerre" a Libya. Hay ja un guerre un Libya... Prefe= ra tu que Gaddafi continua massacrar su population e acter quam dictator ? = > Noto historiala: > La MG establisis "sen-aviaca zono" super Irak dum l= a 1990a yari, ante invadar ol tote en 2003. No, to es erronat. Li zon de i= nterdition aeral hat esset decideti del Nations Unit in Nord-Irak por prote= cter li Kurds. Ti protection functionat e Saddam Hussein stopat attacar li = Kurds. In 2003, li Stats Unit e lor alliats invadet Irak sin autorisation = del Nations Unit (Yo me rememora que Francia vell usar su veto contra un ta= l ONU-resolution). Olivier From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7769 Return-Path: X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 83756 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2011 15:30:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2011 15:30:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2011 15:30:32 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 15:30:31 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2011 15:30:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:30:31 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "lingwadeplaneta" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RE:_paroles-frates_-_un_id=E9a_interlingustik?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=-QrkKuZ3YunmBu9eNtWjOetSZ752w-zI-DHRvqwsbGS7vaNBERRRZhtc X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Hao dey, Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > Danko, Dmitri pro tei respondo. > Yes, de un = latere, tei exemples "udar - darba" es segun li tema. > De altra latere, mi= espera, que on pova trovar plu persuadiva similajes, if serchar ne nur in = 10-12 maxim influiva linguas, quale es skribat che tei ret-pajine, ma in pl= u granda quanto de linguas. Nu hev sistema de prinsip fo importi worda. S= imilitaa de suon-forma es sol un kriteri, yoshi ye otres. Pa exampla, chaur= itaa de difusa, kwantitaa de jen kel mog rekoni worda koygrad. Por to nu pr= eferi similitaa de suon-forma in zuy muhim lingwas, bu in syao lingwas. Obw= ol, naturalem, kelke worda fon syao lingwas toshi ye. > > Wiktionary e l= i diktionar de Guglo es utila instrumentes, quankam regretinde mem ili no e= s suficianta. Mi tamen trovav du o tri plusi exemples por klarifikar li id= =E9a. > > 1) Fayro (Esp: "fajro", Neutral: "fok", Ido: "fairo") > LdP don= a "agni". > > Kantonesi dialekto de Chinesi: "fo"; > Lingua Thai: "fai"; = > nu, okcident-europan variantes de simil forma es multa. > > Tale, du ned= ependanta lingual familias produktav plu-min un forma, segun mei versione -= "fay". > > "Agni" semble es renkontrabla nur in un lingual familia, in Hi= nd-Europan. "fay" es hao. Yedoh "agni" es toshi hao, bikos it ye kadalok i= n IE familia: it ye in slavike lingwas, hindike lingwas ("agni" origini fon= Sanskrit) e Europa-ney lingwas (in Latina agni bin "ignis"). In inglish, k= rome "fire", ye "igneous, ignite", in espaniol toshi ye simile worda... >= > 2) Lingua. > > Li linguas de familia Tyurk e plu granda familia Altai = dona "lingua"=3D"til" (anke variantes min frequenta es "dil", "tel"); > Lin= guas de nedependanta Germanik familia: > Afrikaans: "taal"; > Limburgish: "= taol"; > Westi Frisian: "taal". > Esque nur por me to sembla, que til, tel = - taal es simil? > Nu, semble, li forma "til" es konosat da plu multa homes= , quam "taal". > > Tale, mi dedukta "lingua"=3D"til". > Observa es inter= es-ney, obwol "lingwa" sembli pyu difusi-ney. > 3) Munde. > > Pri ista = kaze mi dubita, ma mi no trovav alquo plu bon: > > Japonesi: "sekai"; > Ko= reesi: "segye"; > Chinesi - Min Nan: "se-kai" > > Europan exemples de alqu= o simil semble es nur ex ancien linguas e no es uzat moderne. > Scottish Ga= elic: "saoghal"; > Moderni Irlandesi "saol" quankam no es tante simil, ma a= nque quale "saoghal" devena de Latinik "saeculum", quel pova signifikar no = nur 100 yares, ma anke longeso de homal vivo, e anke, if plu abstrakte, sig= nifika home, li Home, e anque omna homes in li munde, li munde in toto. > = > Tale mi deduktav "munde"=3D"sekay". > Zuy chaurem difusi-ney worda fo "= munda" es sindubem "dunia". > Yen mi nun have mem un labori nome por li = lingua: "Sekay Til", o "Sekaytil". > Swaagat a worldlanger-komunitaa! Dm= itri From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7770 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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To: posta_mundi Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:51:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3D72F775-5A64-441B-9259-A772B36DBDFC@...> References: <295425.59867.qm@...>,<3D72F775-5A64-441B-9259-A772B36DBDFC@...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2011 19:51:19.0769 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9DCEC90:01CBE5A5] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: FW: Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=UR6i3rMqXI8hw7pFkEM0IhL3M8n1qNlAJ661dJ0BZFU X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc > Ralph Midgley tradukis le sequanta por ni: > > Volap=FCk > Plidom ad sti= r=F6n motoravabis nulik, > ed =E4delo eselom vabi b=E4ldik oka. > > Neo > I= l libar drivi nuva autos, > e yer il vendir la olda. > > Michael Everson = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7772 Return-Path: X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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Tu dicas: "La problemo do esis ne la poka kapaceso di nia = fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), ma la ne-valideso o poka oportuneso di tua Ikusa = materialo, e tua senmezuro. Por la kazo ke tu ne ja komprenis, nia arkivo n= e aceptas, exemple, dokumenti en lingui teritorial qual tua vortaro Ikuso-H= ispana, nam nia grupo esas ne por Hispane-'parlanti' (od "Angle-'parlanti',= edc.), ma por ni omna, qui interkomunikas ed interkomprenas nur per neutra= helpo-lingui internaciona.". Or: en tua dicajo existas du aspekti. La un= esma aspekto, quon me sempre konocis e respektis, esas la regulo de ne acep= tar hike dokumenti en lingui teritoriala. Nature, la komputori ne esas mash= ini omnopovala, e kelka arkivi sendati da me povis kontenar stofo ne permis= ata, sen mea intenco. Evidente, se tu efacis plura arkivi e tu citas vorta= ro Ikuso-Hispana, ito eventis pro ke (nam?) tu trovis la citita vortaro... = quon me neniande volis sendar. (Parenteze, kara Partaka, quo esas la difer= o inter "nam" e "pro ke"?) Me selektis omna arkivi sendita da me kom arkiv= i sen lingui teritoriala. Ma, evidente, mea selektado ne funcionis bone. M= e ne konocas exakte la grado de kontaminuro de mea arkivi, do me ne povas j= udikar hike. Se tu konservas kopio privata de la arkivi efacata, tu povas s= endar la kopio a me por ke me examenez la rezultato. Ma me konservas kopio= de la nomi. Do me povas parolar, exemple, pri un arkivo ke, sen kontaminur= o komputora, enhavas nula parto en lingui teritoriala, pro ke (nam?) olu es= as metodo por lernar Ikuso... per Esperanto klasika (zamenhofa). La arkivo = havas la nomo "fojeto bia la espico sur la tinico". Tu (ed omni) povas faci= le verifikar ica absenteso de lingui teritoriala konsultante o kopiante la = arkivo de-pos la loko originala. Me nule e neniande aceptis, aceptas od ac= eptos esar konsiderato quale fripono quo desobedias vole la regulo de evita= r hike la lingui teritoriala, nek quale imbecilo quo ne komprenas la regulo= simple pro ke la regulo expresesis originale per Ido. Me, nature, sempre k= omprenis (ed obediis!) la regulo. Meaopinie, ica aspekto esas ja klara, se= n plusa (plus?) nuanco kam estimar ke tu devis konsultar kun me unesme ed e= facar pose, vice efacar unesme ed konsultar kun me pose. Se tu konsideris k= e me ne esas fripono nek imbecilo, la nevola eroro komputora esis facile de= duktebla. La duesma aspekto esas plu konfliktiva. La konfuza e ne preciza = indikaji pri "poka oportuneso", "senmezuro" ed cetere permisus ruze komenca= r hike forta censuro de idei, tam en la arkivi kam en la mesaji. Tu, exempl= e, darfus dicar ke serio de diskutaji pri Novial o pri la komunismo esas "s= enmezura" o "neoportuna", tale eliminante la diskutaji ne dezirata de tu. T= ala hipoteza censuron de idei me neniande aceptus. Ni videz exemplo facile= komprenebla. Sen stofi per lingui teritoriala, mea efacata arkivi, kombina= ta aden un arkivo tipo "zip", uzus mikra kapaceso de la arkivo-kapaceso, se= gun tu ipsa agnoskas. Parolor pose pri "senmezuro" por justifikar re-efacur= o de la mikra arkivo kombinata esus, do, censuro de idei. Simile, eliminar = mesaji da me o da altri pri la ipsa afero (yen, linguistiko de Ikuso) esus = censuro de idei. Existas nula difero esenca inter texto sendata kom arkivo = o kom mesajo, do se kelka arkivi pri Ido hike esas "neoportuna", anke kelka= mesaji pri Ido (o pri Idiom Neutral) povesus konsiderar kom "neoportuna, s= enmezura e ne-valida". Ito ne esas dicar ke me deziras risendar la sep efa= cata arkivi kom nova arkivi nek kom mesaji. Fakte, me preferas sendar un mi= kra arkivo de texto ube aparus kelka referaji a diskuteyi ed arkivi pri Iku= so. Ma la problemo diktante hike konfuza reguli pri la naturo de la interko= munikado per neutra helpo-lingui internaciona esas grava, tre grava. La reg= ulo de ne permisar stofi per lingui naciona esas klara e havas grado de jus= tifiko en listo por helpoplanlingui, ma la reguli sen precizeso... esas kom= plete neaceptebla. Me esos plus explicita. Multa idei da me, ne quale trad= ukisto ma quale originala verkisto, esas tante kontrepopula en lingui terit= oria o helpoplanita, quante por ke onu provokus od intencus mea silenco. Me= ne aludas hike la ortografio o la gramatiko, ne; pri mea dubiti gramatika = me nur dicos ke, segun la verko "Universala Metodo", onu dicas, kun kelka e= xempli, ke "La konjunciono "pro ke" introduktas dependanta frazo qua konten= as argumento o motivizo por la nemediata preiranta o posiranta chefa frazo,= dum ke "nam" introduktas chefa frazo qua same kontenas argumento o motiviz= o, ma por preirinta frazo o penso. ". Me ne vidas klara la regulo nek la ex= empli prizentita en la citita verko. Me aludas, exemple, mea idei pri la m= anko de bono etika en la homo meza, o pri la eceso de populozeso en la mond= o. La unanima experienco monda pri la persekutado kontre la disidenti en l= a Historio dicas sempre, sempre, sempre, ke la disidenti "ne obediis la tek= nika reguli". Nature, onu traktas pri teknika reguli sempre diktata, aplika= ta e konkretata da elito ne elektita... Ka tu pensas, kara Partaka, ke hik= e me parolas fundamente pri afero tam mikra e triviala kam la efacajo de ke= lka arkivi didaktika o konsultiva pri Ikuso? Se yes, tu eroras komplete, pr= o ke (nam?) me parolas reale pri afero politika: ke la libereso ne esas afe= ro spontana en la tribuo homa, ke la libereso necesas reguli klara e posibl= a por omni, e ke historie tala ordino politika esas, nature, la demokratio.= Me esas kontredemokrato, yen nula sekreto por tu. Ma la fakto de ke me ne= aceptas la demokratio quale un absoluto sempre obedienda, ne konfundas la = kazo. La demokratio, historie, substitucas la "simpatieso" de la monarko o = de la elito per reguli por kontestar periode ed ordine la kontinueso de la = monarko o de la elito: fundamente, la regulo esas la elektado de kandidati = per majoritato. Yen la kauzo de ke ni, la libertari* (liberali radikala), l= a anarkiisti, la kontreautoritatisti ed cetere, teorie kontredemokrati, esa= s en la praktiko demokrati tre radikala. Yen la fundo: la demokratio restr= iktata a monarko od ad elito esas la plu mala diktatoreso: la diktatoreso k= un pretendo de libereso demokrata (nur por la elito). Ni, la libertari* (li= berali radikala) ne konfidas en la populo, ma ni agnoskas ke la populo pova= s kontrolar, hodie, la plu mala ecesi de la elito. La demokratio esas aktua= le la min mala politika solvuro. ... E me, nature, abominas la demokratio,= pro ke (nam?) la demokratio esas la predominajo de la homo meza. Me sonjas= o revas kun homo quo konsideras la altra homi kon plena respekto, ed anke = su ipsa kun plena respekto, do kun libereso, sen legi, sen punisi, sen karc= eri, sen Stato... e sen la sempre koruptita advokati. Ma la homo meza bezon= as, pagas e subisas la koruptita advokati, vice restitucar oli aden la infe= rno. E se tu opinionas, kara Partaka, ke ni, la libertari* (liberali radik= ala) havas sonjo vana, me dicos e ridicos ke tala sonjo ne esas vana; ke ta= la sonjo esas posibla per la filozofio. Me finas per tua deziro komenca: l= a grupo "postamundiarkivi" jam efacesis. Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasanovo= Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto e= s). ----- mesajo originala ----- Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia! = Voluntez quik efacar tua "postamundiarkivi", nam la grupo posta_Mundi ne = bezonas ol: pos nia 5-yara vivo-tempo tilnuna, ni uzis nur 37% del arkivo-k= apaceso (38%, pos tua recenta dokumenti pri Intal ed Ikuso. La problemo= do esis ne la poka kapaceso di nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), ma la ne-vali= deso o poka oportuneso di tua Ikusa materialo, e tua senmezuro. Por la kazo= ke tu ne ja komprenis, nia arkivo ne aceptas, exemple, dokumenti en lingui= teritorial qual tua vortaro Ikuso-Hispana, nam nia grupo esas ne por Hispa= ne-'parlanti' (od "Angle-'parlanti', edc.), ma por ni omna, qui interkomuni= kas ed interkomprenas nur per neutra helpo-lingui internaciona. Yen la = chefa grupo, ube irga interesati en Ikuso,=B4supozeble, trovos omna tua Iku= sa materialo, ka ne? http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ikuso/ Ho, = amiko! Ante ke me saveskis pri tua "postamundiarkivi", me esis preske skrib= onta a tu, ke "kande tu subisez un ek tua epizodi (nacional), me preferas k= e tu kreez paro de forumi kam ke tu agez tal-maniere che l'arkivi dil grupo= posta_Mundi". Tu nule suciez la kapaceso di nia arkivi! Se ul-die = posta_Mundi bezonos plus arkivo-kapaceso, nia grupo ipsa solvos oportune la= problemo. Ni durigez la kantado, kamarado! :-) P A R T A K A = * * * * * * * * * ------------12818E1D63780CF54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi

       = ;Hola, Partaka.

  &nb= sp;    Tu dicas: "La problemo do esis ne la poka kapaceso di nia = fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), ma la ne-valideso o poka oportuneso di tua Ikusa = materialo, e tua senmezuro. Por la kazo ke tu ne ja komprenis, nia arkivo n= e aceptas, exemple, dokumenti en lingui teritorial qual tua vortaro Ikuso-H= ispana, nam nia grupo esas ne por Hispane-'parlanti' (od "Angle-'parlanti',= edc.), ma por ni omna, qui interkomunikas ed interkomprenas nur per neutra= helpo-lingui internaciona.".

       Or: en tua dicajo existas du aspekti.=

       La un= esma aspekto, quon me sempre konocis e respektis, esas la regulo de ne acep= tar hike dokumenti en lingui teritoriala. Nature, la komputori ne esas mash= ini omnopovala, e kelka arkivi sendati da me povis kontenar stofo ne permis= ata, sen mea intenco.

&nbs= p;      Evidente, se tu efacis plura arkivi e tu citas vorta= ro Ikuso-Hispana, ito eventis pro ke (nam?) tu trovis la citita vortaro... = quon me neniande volis sendar.

       (Parenteze, kara Partaka, quo esas la difer= o inter "nam" e "pro ke"?)

=        Me selektis omna arkivi sendita da me kom arkiv= i sen lingui teritoriala. Ma, evidente, mea selektado ne funcionis bone.

       M= e ne konocas exakte la grado de kontaminuro de mea arkivi, do me ne povas j= udikar hike. Se tu konservas kopio privata de la arkivi efacata, tu povas s= endar la kopio a me por ke me examenez la rezultato.

       Ma me konservas kopio= de la nomi. Do me povas parolar, exemple, pri un arkivo ke, sen kontaminur= o komputora, enhavas nula parto en lingui teritoriala, pro ke (nam?) olu es= as metodo por lernar Ikuso... per Esperanto klasika (zamenhofa). La arkivo = havas la nomo "fojeto bia la espico sur la tinico". Tu (ed omni) povas faci= le verifikar ica absenteso de lingui teritoriala konsultante o kopiante la = arkivo de-pos la loko originala.

       Me nule e neniande aceptis, aceptas od ac= eptos esar konsiderato quale fripono quo desobedias vole la regulo de evita= r hike la lingui teritoriala, nek quale imbecilo quo ne komprenas la regulo= simple pro ke la regulo expresesis originale per Ido. Me, nature, sempre k= omprenis (ed obediis!) la regulo.

       Meaopinie, ica aspekto esas ja klara, = sen plusa (plus?) nuanco kam estimar ke tu devis konsultar kun me unesme ed= efacar pose, vice efacar unesme ed konsultar kun me pose. Se tu konsideris= ke me ne esas fripono nek imbecilo, la nevola eroro komputora esis facile = deduktebla.

    =    La duesma aspekto esas plu konfliktiva. La konfuza e ne preciz= a indikaji pri "poka oportuneso", "senmezuro" ed cetere permisus ruze komen= car hike forta censuro de idei, tam en la arkivi kam en la mesaji. Tu, exem= ple, darfus dicar ke serio de diskutaji pri Novial o pri la komunismo esas = "senmezura" o "neoportuna", tale eliminante la diskutaji ne dezirata de tu.= Tala hipoteza censuron de idei me neniande aceptus.

       Ni videz exemplo faci= le komprenebla. Sen stofi per lingui teritoriala, mea efacata arkivi, kombi= nata aden un arkivo tipo "zip", uzus mikra kapaceso de la arkivo-kapaceso, = segun tu ipsa agnoskas. Parolor pose pri "senmezuro" por justifikar re-efac= uro de la mikra arkivo kombinata esus, do, censuro de idei. Simile, elimina= r mesaji da me o da altri pri la ipsa afero (yen, linguistiko de Ikuso) esu= s censuro de idei. Existas nula difero esenca inter texto sendata kom arkiv= o o kom mesajo, do se kelka arkivi pri Ido hike esas "neoportuna", anke kel= ka mesaji pri Ido (o pri Idiom Neutral) povesus konsiderar kom "neoportuna,= senmezura e ne-valida".

&= nbsp;      Ito ne esas dicar ke me deziras risendar la sep e= facata arkivi kom nova arkivi nek kom mesaji. Fakte, me preferas sendar un = mikra arkivo de texto ube aparus kelka referaji a diskuteyi ed arkivi pri I= kuso. Ma la problemo diktante hike konfuza reguli pri la naturo de la inter= komunikado per neutra helpo-lingui internaciona esas grava, tre grava. La r= egulo de ne permisar stofi per lingui naciona esas klara e havas grado de j= ustifiko en listo por helpoplanlingui, ma la reguli sen precizeso... esas k= omplete neaceptebla.

 = ;      Me esos plus explicita. Multa idei da me, ne quale tr= adukisto ma quale originala verkisto, esas tante kontrepopula en lingui ter= itoria o helpoplanita, quante por ke onu provokus od intencus mea silenco. = Me ne aludas hike la ortografio o la gramatiko, ne; pri mea dubiti gramatik= a me nur dicos ke, segun la verko "Universala Metodo", onu dicas, kun kelka= exempli, ke "La konjunciono "pro ke" introduktas dependanta frazo qua kont= enas argumento o motivizo por la nemediata preiranta o posiranta chefa fraz= o, dum ke "nam" introduktas chefa frazo qua same kontenas argumento o motiv= izo, ma por preirinta frazo o penso. ". Me ne vidas klara la regulo nek la = exempli prizentita en la citita verko.

       Me aludas, exemple, mea idei pri la= manko de bono etika en la homo meza, o pri la eceso de populozeso en la mo= ndo.

      =  La unanima experienco monda pri la persekutado kontre la disidenti en= la Historio dicas sempre, sempre, sempre, ke la disidenti "ne obediis la t= eknika reguli". Nature, onu traktas pri teknika reguli sempre diktata, apli= kata e konkretata da elito ne elektita...

       Ka tu pensas, kara Partaka, ke h= ike me parolas fundamente pri afero tam mikra e triviala kam la efacajo de = kelka arkivi didaktika o konsultiva pri Ikuso? Se yes, tu eroras komplete, = pro ke (nam?) me parolas reale pri afero politika: ke la libereso ne esas a= fero spontana en la tribuo homa, ke la libereso necesas reguli klara e posi= bla por omni, e ke historie tala ordino politika esas, nature, la demokrati= o.

      &n= bsp;Me esas kontredemokrato, yen nula sekreto por tu. Ma la fakto de ke me = ne aceptas la demokratio quale un absoluto sempre obedienda, ne konfundas l= a kazo. La demokratio, historie, substitucas la "simpatieso" de la monarko = o de la elito per reguli por kontestar periode ed ordine la kontinueso de l= a monarko o de la elito: fundamente, la regulo esas la elektado de kandidat= i per majoritato. Yen la kauzo de ke ni, la libertari* (liberali radikala),= la anarkiisti, la kontreautoritatisti ed cetere, teorie kontredemokrati, e= sas en la praktiko demokrati tre radikala.

       Yen la fundo: la demokratio res= triktata a monarko od ad elito esas la plu mala diktatoreso: la diktatoreso= kun pretendo de libereso demokrata (nur por la elito). Ni, la libertari* (= liberali radikala) ne konfidas en la populo, ma ni agnoskas ke la populo po= vas kontrolar, hodie, la plu mala ecesi de la elito. La demokratio esas akt= uale la min mala politika solvuro.

       ... E me, nature, abominas la demokrat= io, pro ke (nam?) la demokratio esas la predominajo de la homo meza. Me son= jas o revas kun homo quo konsideras la altra homi kon plena respekto, ed an= ke su ipsa kun plena respekto, do kun libereso, sen legi, sen punisi, sen k= arceri, sen Stato... e sen la sempre koruptita advokati. Ma la homo meza be= zonas, pagas e subisas la koruptita advokati, vice restitucar oli aden la i= nferno.

    &nbs= p;  E se tu opinionas, kara Partaka, ke ni, la libertari* (liberali ra= dikala) havas sonjo vana, me dicos e ridicos ke tala sonjo ne esas vana; ke= tala sonjo esas posibla per la filozofio.

       Me finas per tua deziro komenca= : la grupo "postamundiarkivi" jam efacesis.

       Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasan= ovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punt= o es).


          -= ---- mesajo originala -----


     =     Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia!


=           Voluntez quik efacar tua "postamun= diarkivi", nam la grupo posta_Mundi ne bezonas ol: pos nia 5-yara vivo-temp= o tilnuna, ni uzis nur 37% del arkivo-kapaceso (38%, pos tua recenta dokume= nti pri Intal ed Ikuso.

&n= bsp;         La problemo do esis ne la poka kapace= so di nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), ma la ne-valideso o poka oportuneso di = tua Ikusa materialo, e tua senmezuro. Por la kazo ke tu ne ja komprenis, ni= a arkivo ne aceptas, exemple, dokumenti en lingui teritorial qual tua vorta= ro Ikuso-Hispana, nam nia grupo esas ne por Hispane-'parlanti' (od "Angle-'= parlanti', edc.), ma por ni omna, qui interkomunikas ed interkomprenas nur = per neutra helpo-lingui internaciona.

          Yen la chefa grupo, ube= irga interesati en Ikuso,=B4supozeble, trovos omna tua Ikusa materialo, ka= ne?


          htt= p://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ikuso/


  &nbs= p;       Ho, amiko! Ante ke me saveskis pri tua "postam= undiarkivi", me esis preske skribonta a tu, ke "kande tu subisez un ek tua = epizodi (nacional), me preferas ke tu kreez paro de forumi kam ke tu agez t= al-maniere che l'arkivi dil grupo posta_Mundi".

          Tu nule sucie= z la kapaceso di nia arkivi!

          Se ul-die posta_Mundi bezonos pl= us arkivo-kapaceso, nia grupo ipsa solvos oportune la problemo.

=

         &nb= sp;Ni durigez la kantado, kamarado! :-)


  &= nbsp;       P A R T A K A

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Danko pro transmisar aden posta_Mundi la tradukuri da Ralph Mid= gley de nia frazo #28 aden Volap=FCk e Neo, quin me maxim volunte adjuntos = en mea nexta listo. Same volunte, me anke invitas l'amiko Ralph adherar e = direte partoprenar nia forumo, quoniam, ultre Volap=FCk (e forsan anke Neo)= , il certe kapablesas skribar adminime en Espo ed Ido, ka ne? Irga-kaze, = ni dankez Ralph pro lua kunlaboro! Standez bone! * * * * * * * * p a r = t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandl= er skribis: > Ralph Midgley tradukis le sequanta por ni: > >= Volap=FCk > Plidom ad stir=F6n motoravabis nulik, > ed =E4delo eselom vabi= b=E4ldik oka. > > Neo > Il libar drivi nuva autos, > e yer il vendir la ol= da. > > Michael Everson From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7775 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Mi komensav komparar li konceptual projekte "Sekay Ti= l" kun Lingwa de Planeta no por diskutar, qual decides es plu bona, ma simp= le por klarifikar certa id=E9as, ma forsan mi ne tre sucesav in klarifiko. = Pu isula Aleksandre skribav, que interlinguistika deve eser quale tabele d= e Mendeleyev, klara e sindubitabla, tale, que lingua artificiala no vud dep= enda de decides personal de irga individes. "Sekay Til" es un probo extrema= le realizar ista principe. Li principe de objektiveso es li maxim important= a por Sekay Til. To, quanta homes uza ta o altra parole - iste es un questi= one sekunda. Li voyo de Sekay Til, quale atingar objektiveso, es li efekt= e de NEDEPENDANTA omofones, mi substreka iste, que pares de omofones deve e= ser nedependanta. -"Fai" del Kantona dialekto e "fire" del Angla es proxim= a omofones no pro que un lingua pruntav li parole de altra lingua e no pro = que ili have komuna origino, ma nur pro koincido. -Tei "ignite", "agni" in = diversa linguas es pruntat o have komuna origino in li pra-hindeuropan ling= ua. Quankam it es uzat in multa linguas da multa homes, iste es li voye de = Lingua de Planeta, ma no es voye de Sekay Til. If por alquel signifiko li = pare de nedependanta omofones pova eser trovat exemplim nur in Navajo e Vas= que, iste esera li decide por Sekay Til. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7776 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Me probos respondizar tua mesajo koncize e sen troa = literaturo. Voluntez restar tranquila, NAM me respektas tu, e me ya duras = fidar a tu ed a tua bona intenco, mem se tu eroris. Tamen, QUONIAM, segun = semblo, tu mem ne lektis detaloze nek verifikis to, quon tu sendis amase ad= en la fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, permisez a me lektar e verif= ikar antee tua dokumenti. Dum ke me superflugis tua nun efacita dokumenti,= me pensis ke, forsan, esus bona, se tu kunigabus omno e facabus sorto di l= ibro... Se tu permisas a me la joko, la libro povus titulizesar MEA KUZO= IKUSO (La ne-volata slango) :-) Alternative, forsan esus interesanta, s= e tu rezolvus apertar ula blogo o wiki (ne simpla forumo!) ube omnu povus f= acile acesar a tua tota Ikuso-materialo. Restez tranquila, Shandru! Nun m= e finas mea mesajo, PRO KE me fatigeskis. Me sendas a tu kordial ed amikal= embraco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogro= ups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo skribis: Hola, = Partaka. Tu dicas: "La problemo do esis ne la poka kapaceso di nia fako "A= rchivos" (Arkivi), ma la ne-valideso o poka oportuneso di tua Ikusa materia= lo, e tua senmezuro. Por la kazo ke tu ne ja komprenis, nia arkivo ne acept= as, exemple, dokumenti en lingui teritorial qual tua vortaro Ikuso-Hispana,= nam nia grupo esas ne por Hispane-'parlanti' (od "Angle-'parlanti', edc.),= ma por ni omna, qui interkomunikas ed interkomprenas nur per neutra helpo-= lingui internaciona.". Or: en tua dicajo existas du aspekti. La unesma as= pekto, quon me sempre konocis e respektis, esas la regulo de ne aceptar hik= e dokumenti en lingui teritoriala. Nature, la komputori ne esas mashini omn= opovala, e kelka arkivi sendati da me povis kontenar stofo ne permisata, se= n mea intenco. Evidente, se tu efacis plura arkivi e tu citas vortaro Ikus= o-Hispana, ito eventis pro ke (nam?) tu trovis la citita vortaro... quon me= neniande volis sendar. (Parenteze, kara Partaka, quo esas la difero inter= "nam" e "pro ke"?) Me selektis omna arkivi sendita da me kom arkivi sen l= ingui teritoriala. Ma, evidente, mea selektado ne funcionis bone. Me ne ko= nocas exakte la grado de kontaminuro de mea arkivi, do me ne povas judikar = hike. Se tu konservas kopio privata de la arkivi efacata, tu povas sendar l= a kopio a me por ke me examenez la rezultato. Ma me konservas kopio de la = nomi. Do me povas parolar, exemple, pri un arkivo ke, sen kontaminuro kompu= tora, enhavas nula parto en lingui teritoriala, pro ke (nam?) olu esas meto= do por lernar Ikuso... per Esperanto klasika (zamenhofa). La arkivo havas l= a nomo "fojeto bia la espico sur la tinico". Tu (ed omni) povas facile veri= fikar ica absenteso de lingui teritoriala konsultante o kopiante la arkivo = de-pos la loko originala. Me nule e neniande aceptis, aceptas od aceptos e= sar konsiderato quale fripono quo desobedias vole la regulo de evitar hike = la lingui teritoriala, nek quale imbecilo quo ne komprenas la regulo simple= pro ke la regulo expresesis originale per Ido. Me, nature, sempre kompreni= s (ed obediis!) la regulo. Meaopinie, ica aspekto esas ja klara, sen plusa= (plus?) nuanco kam estimar ke tu devis konsultar kun me unesme ed efacar p= ose, vice efacar unesme ed konsultar kun me pose. Se tu konsideris ke me ne= esas fripono nek imbecilo, la nevola eroro komputora esis facile deduktebl= a. La duesma aspekto esas plu konfliktiva. La konfuza e ne preciza indikaj= i pri "poka oportuneso", "senmezuro" ed cetere permisus ruze komencar hike = forta censuro de idei, tam en la arkivi kam en la mesaji. Tu, exemple, darf= us dicar ke serio de diskutaji pri Novial o pri la komunismo esas "senmezur= a" o "neoportuna", tale eliminante la diskutaji ne dezirata de tu. Tala hip= oteza censuron de idei me neniande aceptus. Ni videz exemplo facile kompre= nebla. Sen stofi per lingui teritoriala, mea efacata arkivi, kombinata aden= un arkivo tipo "zip", uzus mikra kapaceso de la arkivo-kapaceso, segun tu = ipsa agnoskas. Parolor pose pri "senmezuro" por justifikar re-efacuro de la= mikra arkivo kombinata esus, do, censuro de idei. Simile, eliminar mesaji = da me o da altri pri la ipsa afero (yen, linguistiko de Ikuso) esus censuro= de idei. Existas nula difero esenca inter texto sendata kom arkivo o kom m= esajo, do se kelka arkivi pri Ido hike esas "neoportuna", anke kelka mesaji= pri Ido (o pri Idiom Neutral) povesus konsiderar kom "neoportuna, senmezur= a e ne-valida". Ito ne esas dicar ke me deziras risendar la sep efacata ar= kivi kom nova arkivi nek kom mesaji. Fakte, me preferas sendar un mikra ark= ivo de texto ube aparus kelka referaji a diskuteyi ed arkivi pri Ikuso. Ma = la problemo diktante hike konfuza reguli pri la naturo de la interkomunikad= o per neutra helpo-lingui internaciona esas grava, tre grava. La regulo de = ne permisar stofi per lingui naciona esas klara e havas grado de justifiko = en listo por helpoplanlingui, ma la reguli sen precizeso... esas komplete n= eaceptebla. Me esos plus explicita. Multa idei da me, ne quale tradukisto = ma quale originala verkisto, esas tante kontrepopula en lingui teritoria o = helpoplanita, quante por ke onu provokus od intencus mea silenco. Me ne alu= das hike la ortografio o la gramatiko, ne; pri mea dubiti gramatika me nur = dicos ke, segun la verko "Universala Metodo", onu dicas, kun kelka exempli,= ke "La konjunciono "pro ke" introduktas dependanta frazo qua kontenas argu= mento o motivizo por la nemediata preiranta o posiranta chefa frazo, dum ke= "nam" introduktas chefa frazo qua same kontenas argumento o motivizo, ma p= or preirinta frazo o penso. ". Me ne vidas klara la regulo nek la exempli p= rizentita en la citita verko. Me aludas, exemple, mea idei pri la manko de= bono etika en la homo meza, o pri la eceso de populozeso en la mondo. La = unanima experienco monda pri la persekutado kontre la disidenti en la Histo= rio dicas sempre, sempre, sempre, ke la disidenti "ne obediis la teknika re= guli". Nature, onu traktas pri teknika reguli sempre diktata, aplikata e ko= nkretata da elito ne elektita... Ka tu pensas, kara Partaka, ke hike me pa= rolas fundamente pri afero tam mikra e triviala kam la efacajo de kelka ark= ivi didaktika o konsultiva pri Ikuso? Se yes, tu eroras komplete, pro ke (n= am?) me parolas reale pri afero politika: ke la libereso ne esas afero spon= tana en la tribuo homa, ke la libereso necesas reguli klara e posibla por o= mni, e ke historie tala ordino politika esas, nature, la demokratio. Me es= as kontredemokrato, yen nula sekreto por tu. Ma la fakto de ke me ne acepta= s la demokratio quale un absoluto sempre obedienda, ne konfundas la kazo. L= a demokratio, historie, substitucas la "simpatieso" de la monarko o de la e= lito per reguli por kontestar periode ed ordine la kontinueso de la monarko= o de la elito: fundamente, la regulo esas la elektado de kandidati per maj= oritato. Yen la kauzo de ke ni, la libertari* (liberali radikala), la anark= iisti, la kontreautoritatisti ed cetere, teorie kontredemokrati, esas en la= praktiko demokrati tre radikala. Yen la fundo: la demokratio restriktata = a monarko od ad elito esas la plu mala diktatoreso: la diktatoreso kun pret= endo de libereso demokrata (nur por la elito). Ni, la libertari* (liberali = radikala) ne konfidas en la populo, ma ni agnoskas ke la populo povas kontr= olar, hodie, la plu mala ecesi de la elito. La demokratio esas aktuale la m= in mala politika solvuro. ... E me, nature, abominas la demokratio, pro ke= (nam?) la demokratio esas la predominajo de la homo meza. Me sonjas o reva= s kun homo quo konsideras la altra homi kon plena respekto, ed anke su ipsa= kun plena respekto, do kun libereso, sen legi, sen punisi, sen karceri, se= n Stato... e sen la sempre koruptita advokati. Ma la homo meza bezonas, pag= as e subisas la koruptita advokati, vice restitucar oli aden la inferno. E= se tu opinionas, kara Partaka, ke ni, la libertari* (liberali radikala) ha= vas sonjo vana, me dicos e ridicos ke tala sonjo ne esas vana; ke tala sonj= o esas posibla per la filozofio. Me finas per tua deziro komenca: la grupo= "postamundiarkivi" jam efacesis. Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasanovo Doming= o, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- = mesajo originala ----- Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia! Voluntez quik efaca= r tua "postamundiarkivi", nam la grupo posta_Mundi ne bezonas ol: pos nia 5= -yara vivo-tempo tilnuna, ni uzis nur 377% del arkivo-kapaceso (38%, pos tua= recenta dokumenti pri Intal ed Ikuso. La problemo do esis ne la poka kapa= ceso di nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), ma la ne-valideso o poka oportuneso d= i tua Ikusa materialo, e tua senmezuro. Por la kazo ke tu ne ja komprenis, = nia arkivo ne aceptas, exemple, dokumenti en lingui teritorial qual tua vor= taro Ikuso-Hispana, nam nia grupo esas ne por Hispane-'parlanti' (od "Angle= -'parlanti', edc.), ma por ni omna, qui interkomunikas ed interkomprenas nu= r per neutra helpo-lingui internaciona. Yen la chefa grupo, ube irga inter= esati en Ikuso,=B4supozeble, trovos omna tua Ikusa materialo, ka ne? http= ://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/ikuso/ Ho, amiko! Ante ke me saveskis pri tu= a "postamundiarkivi", me esis preske skribonta a tu, ke "kande tu subisez u= n ek tua epizodi (nacional), me preferas ke tu kreez paro de forumi kam ke = tu agez tal-maniere che l'arkivi dil grupo posta_Mundi". Tu nule suciez la= kapaceso di nia arkivi! Se ul-die posta_Mundi bezonos plus arkivo-kapaces= o, nia grupo ipsa solvos oportune la problemo. Ni durigez la kantado, kama= rado! :-) P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7777 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78229 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2011 10:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2011 10:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2011 10:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 10:12:16 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 10:12:16 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:12:14 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "Thomas" Subject: RE: Corectores por IE Munde 3! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=341519187; y=mjhCY94BJpHjSSK3ytKFrWTEQquBtkErFi0sLY5yyRkic-FJdA X-Yahoo-Profile: valodnieks Car Partaka! Yo mersia omni corectores! Quelc Occidentalistes e mem li che= fes del Interlingue Union, quel es li oficial organisation de Occidental-In= terlingue, Senior Plavec e Senior Werner ha auxiliat per corectiones. Ti c= omun efortie clarmen monstra que Occidental-Interlingue have un vivent comu= nit=E9 del usatores! Pro yo ne esset in hem durante li recent 10 dies yo a= ncor ne ha corectet li numer=F3 3 de IE Munde. Pos yo va har finit ti labor= e IE Munde 3 va esser publicat. Yo pensa que to va evenir certmen til li fi= ne del marte. Amicalmen Thomas --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "quale= vistandas" escribi=F3: > > Hola, Thomas! > > Me esper= as ke adminime un dominacanto > pri Occidental/Interlingue povos helpar tu = > korektigar tua texti por la nexta numero > dil revuo IE MUNDE, quan tu ed= itos marte. > > Ultre to, quankam me advere nule dominacas > ta helpo-lin= guo', se tu sendos a me private > omno skribita, me maxim volunte helpos t= u > per parlektar ol, ed informar tu pri irg anomalajo, > quan me trovos = en tua texti. > > Dume, me ja pregratulas tu por tua bona laboro. > > Sta= ndez bone! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > > --- En posta_Mu= ndi@yahoogroups.com, > "Thomas" skribis: > > Car amicos de = Occidental! > > Yo ha finit li textus por li triesim numer=F3 de IE Munde= (circa 12 p=E1gines). Nu yo sercha corectores por li textus! > > Yo proj= ecte publicar IE Munde 3 ancor in li marte 2011. > > Mers=ED pro vor auxi= lie! > > Thomas > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7779 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 48304 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2011 11:46:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2011 11:46:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2011 11:46:04 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 11:46:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 11:46:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:46:02 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: Harasho X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=eRZvZDtTUllQ08CV2QIsMNdn6Wm_zCmRG4bcqC6WvmuvZ2dZb24IMzOgc8hg X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Hiere mi ha skribav hike li mesaje "paroles-frates", pri nedependanta omofo= nes e pri li projekte de un lingua posim nominat "Sekay Til". In vesper mi = kun mei familia spektav un korean serial film, tale nominata dorama. Li fil= m esev sin sonik traduko, nur kun rusi subtitules. Anteim noi no spektav fi= lmes korean sin sonik traduko, nur spektav japonian tale. E noi tre admirav= , que por ke dicer "bone", in li sense, quale "bone, mi fecera to, quo tu d= ice" o "bone, tale mi agara" o simile, koreanes dice quaze in rusi lingua -= "harash=F3". Ili uza ista parol frequente. Nu, ili dice alquo meza inter "= harasho" e "haraso". Tale un koreane, quel parola in rusi lingua kun forta = korei akcente, pova pronunciar rusi parol "harasho". Yen, un certa nedepend= anta omofon! Tamen quande mi trovav li parol in li tradukator de Guglo, mi = komensav dubitar. Pro que in li latinik alfabete li korei parol es skribat = quale "geulsse". Li korei fonetika es plu komplikata quam exemplim japoni, = e latinik transliteracion ne tre bone spegula pronuncione. E plusim li prog= rama-sonator de Guglo pronuncia ne certe tale quale in li filme, forsan ist= e es un poke altra dialekte. In li filme li sujete es in Seul. Mi komensav = dubitar, esque nosi oreles forsan indukta nos in iluzie. Hodie matinim noi = spektav sequanta series. Yes, certe ili dice "harash=F3"! Sindubitable. E m= i anque tre admirav, que tu, Dmitri, anke rememorav "hao-horosho". ("horosh= o" - tale on skriba, fonetikale es "harasho" o "xarasho", quale on skriba c= he Wiktionari). Mi pensa, que iste es quale li Kolektiva Sinkonscialo dice= a me koncernu Sekay Til: "bone!" - "harash=F3!" Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7780 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97192 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2011 13:14:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2011 13:14:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2011 13:14:43 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 13:14:43 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 13:14:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:14:41 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Diskurso pri haiku e lingui. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=gB_jtJ08mYTmmMeZqu5K0amqILm0sAqiV5Y333vTylalxFv_fUsHe0g X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Tik-tak, Antonio! Me deziras ed esperas, ke l'amiko Ralph fine sendos a tu= la tradukuro del "haiku" da Basho aden Volap=FCk. Se ulu hike, che posta_M= undi, povas tradukar tal "haiku" aden plusa helpo-lingui qual Idiom Neutral= , Novial ed Occidental/Interlingue, adavane! Se ne, pos ke tu adjuntos en = tua listeto la versiono en ARIEL dal amiko Osmund, tu certe posedos la suf= icanta tradukuri por montrar al publiko quale aspektas ed agas certena LIA= -sistemi, lor interpretar la konkreta "haiku", quan ni tradukabas. Olda la= geto. Rano saltas aden ol. Aquo-bruiso. Kurajo, e sempre adavane, amiko! = * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoo= groups.com, "hispanahirundo" skribis: Kar amiki, kar= Partaka, quale me ja dicis, me dezirus havar la versioni di ca haiku en = omna l'artificiala lingui, nam tale l'asistanti povos konocar omna ca lingu= i. Vere, me dezirus la tradukajo di ca haiku en la lingui qui mankas. Me= kredas ke ne esas desfacila tasko nam esas nur tri versi. Pri la Volap=FCk= -ala tradukajo, me sendis personala mesaajo a nia anke Idala samideano Ralph= , ma lu ankore ne respondis me. Me deziras havar ca haiku en Volap=FCk nam = esis l'unesma linguo artificiala vere universala e lernata da multa homi. F= orsan multa asistanti nultempe audabos nek konocos Volap=FCk, nek Esperanto= , nek Ido, nek Occidental... Se ulu povos havar la tradukaji en Occidenta= l, Novial o Neutral anke esus bonega novajo. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7781 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=SatxffyJIn_uFur-lsXdyW3H6rhF0qS0_EX9rq9S4R4 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Novial: Oldi lagete. Rane salta en lu. Aque-bruiso. = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7782 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98770 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2011 15:36:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2011 15:36:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.204) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2011 15:36:49 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W31 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:36:49 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: posta_mundi Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:36:48 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3082686F-5F16-47D0-9F39-D4FDBF3AEA57@...> References: <223306.81413.qm@...>,<3082686F-5F16-47D0-9F39-D4FDBF3AEA57@...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2011 15:36:49.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[76563D10:01CBE64B] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: FW: Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=t2HFKis56hRPyT5NDDNxKvJyb2rY0aw45X918XOU0pw X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Ralph facis ta tradukuri pro demando mea. Nuntempe lu laboregas por tradu= kar 'L'Aventuri di Alice en Marvelia' aden e Volap=FCk e Neo, qui editesos = (maxim probable) ante la fino di 2011. Michael Everson = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7783 Return-Path: X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65873 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2011 16:13:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2011 16:13:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n5-vm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (67.195.135.101) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2011 16:13:00 -0000 X-Received: from [67.195.134.49] by n5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 16:12:59 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by t2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 16:12:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.73] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 16:12:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:12:58 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "lingwadeplaneta" Subject: RE: Harasho X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=yhl_KVBOvgIbXVlgCMD_RYRjQThxiDEX5lLO0nSlXoZ7fOn-izxq5Owi X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Ob "harasho" es i kwel-worda i komo-worda in SekayTil? Kompari yoshi "ha= san" (arabi), "hayir" (turk), "khauris" (Sambahsa). --- En posta_Mundi@y= ahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > Hiere mi = ha skribav hike li mesaje "paroles-frates", pri nedependanta omofones e pri= li projekte de un lingua posim nominat "Sekay Til". > In vesper mi kun mei= familia spektav un korean serial film, tale nominata dorama. Li film esev = sin sonik traduko, nur kun rusi subtitules. Anteim noi no spektav filmes ko= rean sin sonik traduko, nur spektav japonian tale. E noi tre admirav, que p= or ke dicer "bone", in li sense, quale "bone, mi fecera to, quo tu dice" o = "bone, tale mi agara" o simile, koreanes dice quaze in rusi lingua - "haras= h=F3". Ili uza ista parol frequente. Nu, ili dice alquo meza inter "harasho= " e "haraso". Tale un koreane, quel parola in rusi lingua kun forta korei a= kcente, pova pronunciar rusi parol "harasho". > Yen, un certa nedependanta = omofon! Tamen quande mi trovav li parol in li tradukator de Guglo, mi komen= sav dubitar. Pro que in li latinik alfabete li korei parol es skribat quale= "geulsse". Li korei fonetika es plu komplikata quam exemplim japoni, e lat= inik transliteracion ne tre bone spegula pronuncione. E plusim li programa-= sonator de Guglo pronuncia ne certe tale quale in li filme, forsan iste es = un poke altra dialekte. In li filme li sujete es in Seul. Mi komensav dubit= ar, esque nosi oreles forsan indukta nos in iluzie. > Hodie matinim noi spe= ktav sequanta series. Yes, certe ili dice "harash=F3"! Sindubitable. > E mi= anque tre admirav, que tu, Dmitri, anke rememorav "hao-horosho". ("horosho= " - tale on skriba, fonetikale es "harasho" o "xarasho", quale on skriba ch= e Wiktionari). > > Mi pensa, que iste es quale li Kolektiva Sinkonscialo d= ice a me koncernu Sekay Til: "bone!" - "harash=F3!" > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7784 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 54167 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2011 17:08:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Mar 2011 17:08:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2011 17:08:56 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 17:08:55 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.184] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2011 17:08:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:08:53 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Pri POSTA MUNDI #2 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=SPAutPcnFGukAB6nm6xfGE6qlO-o7nfVVq8pq1h4H_mynkCEo4XZYF0 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Per ica mesajo, me volas memorigar da vi,= ke, se vi havas artikli por publikigar en la jurnalo POSTA MUNDI, voluntez= sendar oli a nia chefa redaktero, Rosto, til la 25ma di marto, admaxime, k= ande la #2 di nia revuo inter-IAL mustas esar pronta editesar. Voluntez se= ndar via texti al sequant e-adreso: enioni@... Predanko por via kun= laboro, kara kun-redakteri! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En po= sta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribis: Kar= a amikes! Mi nun deve anunciar, que yes, POSTA MUNDI #2 esera editet in li= fine del ista monate, in li fine de mart. If vi vole publikar alquo in li = jurnale, sende a enioni@... Mi prega sender ne tre tarde, nu, forsan til 2= 0 de mart. Pro que noi esforcia prezentir posible plu kompleta kolekcion de= IALes, e if alquel linguas, precipue ex ENIONI, mankara, mi bezona tempo p= or facer alquo, forsan skribar alquo ipsa o trovar alquo ancien. Quankam if= vi no pova sender til 20 de mart, sende posim, til 25. Partaka, mi reciva= v tei letres. Iste omna es bona. Yen, noi ja have alquo por POSTA MUNDI #2.= Kara forumanes, skriba in li forum, quo vi pensa, quala li jurnal deve es= er. Mi pensa koncernu li "Anteparol del redaktor" skribar it por #2 in Esp= eranto, por #3 in Idiom Neutral, por #4 in Ido... Mi no vole trouzar ibe ku= n su propri lingua. Rosto --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "po= stamundi" escribi=F3: He, Rosto! Ka nos darfe send al reda= kterie de POSTA MUNDI nosi texte's ed artikle's por le numer 2 del jurnal? = Se ya, plez vizite le haney () por saveske ka le hana's facabe plu= s ove's ^ ^ (Yen du brove kel atencige, no du penis) :-) Abe bon di, amik= ! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7785 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=Hmsv7YzQAnhe9-5bpc7XmiaE4bH0cZsDRoBi8kncxeCBrrM X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------971C21A51236D114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lernar Ido. Hola, Partaka. Hodie, mea mesajo semblus = stranja. Ma me ne esas facile prediktebla. Mea chefa intenco hike, e= n la listo posta_Mundi, ne esas propagar Ikuso, ma lernar e praktikar altra= helpoplanlingui... precipue Ido. Esperanto (klasika) esas intelekta= proprajo da Zamenhof, nature, e Lingua Franca Nova esas intelekta proprajo= da George Boeree (Jorj Bure). Ma Ikuso ne esas intelekta proprajo da Alesh= andro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo. La nepersoneso cienca de Ikuso implikas ke= me ne aparus quale "guruo", nek teorie nek praktike, de ica helpoplanlingu= o sen akademio nek religiono interna. Do, hike, me sendus mikra arki= vo de texto kun adresi por lernanti ed observanti de Ikuso... e nulo plus. = La altra parolanti de Ikuso parolez hike Ikuso, se oli deziras parolar. = Nove, do, aden Ido. Kara Partaka, tu darfas demandar: pro quo tua inter= eso favore ad Ido? Baze, nam (pro ke?) inter la "granda" helpoplanli= ngui, Ido esas la plu cience bona e la plu senpersonista. La problem= o, lernante Ido, ne esas formacar la pluralo de la substantivi, nek konocar= la pronunco de la vokalo "e". La problemo esas facar korekte la difero int= er "nam" e "pro ke", od adaptar la ampla vortaro filozofia internaciona por= la homi qui, quale me, uzas ofte Ido por filozofiar. Onu parolis a = me pri forumi quale "Idolerneyo", "Idoskolo", ed cetere. Me pregas ke tu e = vu, idoparolanti ed idisti, konsilez me. La vero esas ke me bezonas precipu= e obtenar flueso en la uzo cienca, teknika e filozofia, nam mea uzo de Ido = esas precipue ciencoteknika o filozofia. Kad existas verko kam "Komp= leta Gramatiko Detaloza" od "Universala Metodo", ma plus moderna, verko de = Ido aden Ido pri la Ido de hodie, quo ne esas ja la Ido de la yaro 1905? = Me profitas ica mesajo por anuncar ke me preparas nova esayo mikra de = filozofio aplikata, por la revuo "Posta Mundi". Ica-foye la esayo, verkota = per komuna Ido, ne esus riedituro o riadapturo de antea verko, ma esayo une= sme skribita por la revuo "Posta_Mundi". Yen la afero: la energio atoma, pe= r vidpunto relative originala. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo= , posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). --= --- Mesajo originala ----- Bon jorno, Alexandre! Me probos= respondizar tua mesajo koncize e sen troa literaturo. Voluntez rest= ar tranquila, NAM me respektas tu, e me ya duras fidar a tu ed a tua bona i= ntenco, mem se tu eroris. Tamen, QUONIAM, segun semblo, tu mem ne le= ktis detaloze nek verifikis to, quon tu sendis amase aden la fako "Archivos= " (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, permisez a me lektar e verifikar antee tua dokum= enti. Dum ke me superflugis tua nun efacita dokumenti, me pensis ke,= forsan, esus bona, se tu kunigabus omno e facabus sorto di libro... Se tu = permisas a me la joko, la libro povus titulizesar MEA KUZO IKUSO = (La ne-volata slango) :-) Alternative, forsan esus interesant= a, se tu rezolvus apertar ula blogo o wiki (ne simpla forumo!) ube omnu pov= us facile acesar a tua tota Ikuso-materialo. Restez tranquila, Shand= ru! Nun me finas mea mesajo, PRO KE me fatigeskis. Me sendas = a tu kordial ed amikal embraco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * = * * ------------971C21A51236D114 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lernar Ido (ico esis: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi).</ti= tle> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-88= 59-1"> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Style-Type" content=3D"text/css"> <style= type=3D"text/css"><!-- body { margin: 5px 5px 5px 5px; background-colo= r: #ffffff; } /* =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Text Styles =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D */ hr { color: #000000} body, table /* Normal text */ { fo= nt-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-style: normal; font-weigh= t: normal; color: #000000; text-decoration: none; } span.rvts1 /* Heading= */ { font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; font-weight: bold; color: = #0000ff; } span.rvts2 /* Subheading */ { font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'A= rial'; font-weight: bold; color: #000080; } span.rvts3 /* Keywords */ { = font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; font-style: italic; color: #80000= 0; } a.rvts4, span.rvts4 /* Jump 1 */ { font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Ar= ial'; color: #008000; text-decoration: underline; } a.rvts5, span.rvts5 /= * Jump 2 */ { font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial'; color: #008000; te= xt-decoration: underline; } span.rvts6 { font-size: 12pt; font-family: 't= imes new roman'; } /* =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Para Styles =3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D */ p,ul,ol /* Paragraph Style */ { text-align: left;= text-indent: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px; } = .rvps1 /* Centered */ { text-align: center; } .rvps2 { text-align: justif= y; } --></style> </head> <body> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6> = ;      Lernar Ido.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class= =3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>   =    Hola, Partaka.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts= 6>       Hodie, mea mesajo semblus stranja. Ma me ne es= as facile prediktebla.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>&nbs= p;      Mea chefa intenco hike, en la listo posta_Mundi, ne = esas propagar Ikuso, ma lernar e praktikar altra helpoplanlingui... precipu= e Ido.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>     =  Esperanto (klasika) esas intelekta proprajo da Zamenhof, nature, e L= ingua Franca Nova esas intelekta proprajo da George Boeree (Jorj Bure). Ma = Ikuso ne esas intelekta proprajo da Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo. L= a nepersoneso cienca de Ikuso implikas ke me ne aparus quale "guruo", nek t= eorie nek praktike, de ica helpoplanlinguo sen akademio nek religiono inter= na.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>      &n= bsp;Do, hike, me sendus mikra arkivo de texto kun adresi por lernanti ed ob= servanti de Ikuso... e nulo plus. La altra parolanti de Ikuso parolez hike = Ikuso, se oli deziras parolar.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drv= ts6>       Nove, do, aden Ido. Kara Partaka, tu darfas = demandar: pro quo tua intereso favore ad Ido?</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><= span class=3Drvts6>       Baze, nam (pro ke?) inter la = "granda" helpoplanlingui, Ido esas la plu cience bona e la plu senpersonist= a.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>      &nb= sp;La problemo, lernante Ido, ne esas formacar la pluralo de la substantivi= , nek konocar la pronunco de la vokalo "e". La problemo esas facar korekte = la difero inter "nam" e "pro ke", od adaptar la ampla vortaro filozofia int= ernaciona por la homi qui, quale me, uzas ofte Ido por filozofiar.</span></= p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>       Onu paro= lis a me pri forumi quale "Idolerneyo", "Idoskolo", ed cetere. Me pregas ke= tu e vu, idoparolanti ed idisti, konsilez me. La vero esas ke me bezonas p= recipue obtenar flueso en la uzo cienca, teknika e filozofia, nam mea uzo d= e Ido esas precipue ciencoteknika o filozofia.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2>= <span class=3Drvts6>       Kad existas verko kam "Kompl= eta Gramatiko Detaloza" od "Universala Metodo", ma plus moderna, verko de I= do aden Ido pri la Ido de hodie, quo ne esas ja la Ido de la yaro 1905?</sp= an></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>       Me = profitas ica mesajo por anuncar ke me preparas nova esayo mikra de filozofi= o aplikata, por la revuo "Posta Mundi". Ica-foye la esayo, verkota per komu= na Ido, ne esus riedituro o riadapturo de antea verko, ma esayo unesme skri= bita por la revuo "Posta_Mundi". Yen la afero: la energio atoma, per vidpun= to relative originala.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6> &nb= sp;      Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto = elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).</span></p> <= p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span = class=3Drvts6>        ----- Mesajo originala -----</spa= n></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6><br></span></p> <p class=3Drvps= 2><br></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>       = Bon jorno, Alexandre!</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><br></p> <p class=3Drvps2= ><span class=3Drvts6>       Me probos respondizar tua m= esajo koncize e sen troa literaturo.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span clas= s=3Drvts6>       Voluntez restar tranquila, NAM me resp= ektas tu, e me ya duras fidar a tu ed a tua bona intenco, mem se tu eroris.= </span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>       = ;Tamen, QUONIAM, segun semblo, tu mem ne lektis detaloze nek verifikis to, = quon tu sendis amase aden la fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, permi= sez a me lektar e verifikar antee tua dokumenti.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps= 2><span class=3Drvts6>       Dum ke me superflugis tua = nun efacita dokumenti, me pensis ke, forsan, esus bona, se tu kunigabus omn= o e facabus sorto di libro... Se tu permisas a me la joko, la libro povus t= itulizesar</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><br></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span clas= s=3Drvts6>       MEA KUZO IKUSO </span></p> <p cla= ss=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>       (La ne-volata sla= ngo) :-)</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><br></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class= =3Drvts6>       Alternative, forsan esus interesanta, s= e tu rezolvus apertar ula blogo o wiki (ne simpla forumo!) ube omnu povus f= acile acesar a tua tota Ikuso-materialo.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span = class=3Drvts6>       Restez tranquila, Shandru!</span><= /p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>       Nun me = finas mea mesajo, PRO KE me fatigeskis.</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span c= lass=3Drvts6>       Me sendas a tu kordial ed amikal em= braco. </span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>    =    P A R T A K A</span></p> <p class=3Drvps2><span class=3Drvts6>=        * * * * * * * * * </span></p> <p class=3Drv= ps2><br></p> </body></html> ------------971C21A51236D114-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7787 Return-Path: <ila_mesajero@...> X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Me ankor-foye dankas tu pro transmisir aden nia forumo, posta_= Mundi, plusa sendajo dal signatinto dil suba mesajo, Michael Everson, ilqua= , segun semblo, demandis ipse del amiko Ralph tradukar nia frazo #28 aden = Volap=FCk e Neo. Do, me maxim volunte dankez ne nur James e Ralph, ma anke= Michael. Vi omna standez bone! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * = * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler <idojc@...> s= kribis: Ralph facis ta tradukuri pro demando mea. Nuntempe lu laboregas= por tradukar 'L'Aventuri di Alice en Marvelia' aden e Volap=FCk e Neo, qui= editesos (maxim probable) ante la fino di 2011. Michael Everson From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7789 Return-Path: <rostislav-levchenko@...> X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84405 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2011 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2011 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2011 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2011 05:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2011 05:24:17 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 05:24:15 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <im431v+dfpg@...> In-Reply-To: <SNT103-W1599EC054B866C667C682DA4B00@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" <rostislav-levchenko@...> Subject: RE: [GLOBALISMO] Mondala Guvernerio deklaras milito kontre Libia X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=U3uCob7P_xgcreI4Pimfk42QgKovbErVXbyzvtfHLCDo8_agzw2eUWUfs3R3 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Ili amba es mala, Kadafi e Mundiala Guvernerio. Kompatinda popule de Libia!= Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler <idojc@...>= escribi=F3: > > > NOVA MILITO: > > La Mondala Guvernerio, per la Unioni= ta Nacioni, deklaras milito kontre Libia. > > La Sekureso-Konsilistaro di= l UN votis por establisar "sen-aviaca zono" super Libia, tale invadonte la = aero-spaco libiana. > > Anke posibla esos de-aera ataki kontre libiana so= ldati surtera. > > Noto historiala: > La MG establisis "sen-aviaca zono" = super Irak dum la 1990a yari, ante invadar ol tote en 2003. > > > Globa= lista militema saluti > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7791 Return-Path: <qualevistandas@...> X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18203 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2011 13:19:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2011 13:19:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2011 13:18:28 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2011 13:11:04 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2011 13:10:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:10:34 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <im4uca+ldvm@...> In-Reply-To: <im1vhu+e4n0@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" <qualevistandas@...> Subject: RE: Corectores por IE Munde 3! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=tNlFb7WAOYIdkHBFgkDVYaqwetUxEd7lvigOTR6BIPj4ewFSy0iz9ho X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Bon jorno, Thomas! Me joyas ke l' numero 3 dil revuo IE MUNDE ja korektige= sis, e ke ol preske prontesas por publikigo. Ni vartos ne-paciente por lek= tar e juar ta nova edituro di IE MUNDE, revuo tote skribita en Occidental/I= nterlingue. Bona sundio, e til balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <valodnieks@...> skribis: C= ar Partaka! Yo mersia omni corectores! Quelc Occidentalistes e mem li che= fes del Interlingue Union, quel es li oficial organisation de Occidental-In= terlingue, Senior Plavec e Senior Werner ha auxiliat per corectiones. Ti = comun efortie clarmen monstra que Occidental-Interlingue have un vivent com= unit=E9 del usatores! Pro yo ne esset in hem durante li recent 10 dies yo= ancor ne ha corectet li numer=F3 3 de IE Munde. Pos yo va har finit ti lab= ore IE Munde 3 va esser publicat. Yo pensa que to va evenir certmen til li = fine del marte. Amicalmen Thomas --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "q= ualevistandas" <qualevistandas@> escribi=F3: Hola, Thomas! Me esperas ke= adminime un dominacanto pri Occidental/Interlingue povos helpar tu korekti= gar tua texti por la nexta numero dil revuo IE MUNDE, quan tu editos marte.= Ultre to, quankam me advere nule dominacas ta helpo-linguo', se tu send= os a me private omno skribita, me maxim volunte helpos tu per parlektar o= l, ed informar tu pri irg anomalajo, quan me trovos en tua texti. Dume, = me ja pregratulas tu por tua bona laboro. Standez bone! P A R T A K A= * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <valod= nieks@> skribis: Car amicos de Occidental! Yo ha finit li textus por l= i triesim numer=F3 de IE Munde (circa 12 p=E1gines). Nu yo sercha corectore= s por li textus! Yo projecte publicar IE Munde 3 ancor in li marte 2011.= Mers=ED pro vor auxilie! 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X-Received: (qmail 80408 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Mar 2011 13:34:46 -0000 Message-ID: <260566.49574.qm@...> X-YMail-OSG: 2I5eU2MVM1lAehrHrcRAkKsWrMmjWa8Tj41_JCOtFa9VxjX tHe18FRy6qEeud3foIYm4VbYUko2OUuzy2rXnVZsvKKkfb3vimAO_Bz.TyAO BrZcn21Ch9grcNo.Ixe9LTEcKDOW0hH0mt.mEz7yK.BsAjESovM1u4SdgRNY WwXSCkXpc0fCN.SYEAejkBjn9LMvRm2wigPN5ve6PdfsxLmWKgEKdHRWxV2H 8MNDffCjh73uhS2nlYO3PMHu.7hd3fpp5M1P6VczoenWmrMdshWonNwIK8kU sI4AWe.qzye.Quq4XFtAF X-Received: from [88.24.158.1] by web28203.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:34:46 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <im4831+39p4@...> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:34:46 +0000 (GMT) To: IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com, posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <im4831+39p4@...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1041907903-1300628086=:49574" From: Ila Mesajero <ila_mesajero@...> Subject: Kelka novajeti del unesma duimo di marto 2011 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=7D6eFeSS8uLI8VESxn8oKEqZH35zSfyU-d4hKGHqQciMLfw3zONe X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero --0-1041907903-1300628086=:49574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Da Gabriel Svoboda, che l' forumo Idolisto) Kar amiki, vi povas lekt= ar kelka novajeti fresha hike: http://linguoido.ning.com/profiles/blogs/201= 1-kelka-novajeti-del-unesma-2 Ed askoltar oli hike: http://www.box.net/sha= red/d1foln0sm0 Yen specimeno de est-Azia: - 15ma di marto 2011: La forteso= dil sismo eventinta en nord-Japonia ye quar dii antee revizesis a 9.0. La= sismo e la posa ondego marea o =C3=82=C2=ABtsunami=C3=82=C2=BB ocidis cir= kum duadekamil homi e nocis cirkum triamil. Triesma explozo en quar dii ev= entis en la elektriferio nukleara Fukushima I domajita dal sismo. Kordiale= Gabriel Svoboda --0-1041907903-1300628086=:49574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></he= ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, se= rif;font-size:8pt"><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, tim= es, serif;font-size:8pt"><div style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin:5px 0px 5px = 5px;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;font-family:times new roman, new york, ti= mes, serif;font-size:12pt">(Da Gabriel Svoboda, che l' forumo Idolisto)<br>= <font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span= " style=3D"font-size: 15px;"><br></span></font> <span style= =3D"display:none;"> </span> <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> = <p>Kar amiki,<br> <br> vi povas lektar kelka novajeti fresha hike:<= br> <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://linguoido.ning.com= /profiles/blogs/2011-kelka-novajeti-del-unesma-2">http://linguoido.ning.com= /profiles/blogs/2011-kelka-novajeti-del-unesma-2</a><br> <br> Ed askoltar o= li hike:<br> <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.box.n= et/shared/d1foln0sm0">http://www.box.net/shared/d1foln0sm0</a><br> <br> Yen= specimeno de est-Azia:<br> - 15ma di marto 2011: La forteso dil sismo even= tinta en nord-Japonia ye quar dii antee revizesis a 9.0. La sismo e la posa= ondego marea o =C3=82=C2=ABtsunami=C3=82=C2=BB ocidis cirkum duadekamil ho= mi e nocis cirkum triamil. Triesma explozo en quar dii eventis en la elektr= iferio nukleara Fukushima I domajita dal sismo.<br> <br> Kordiale<br> Gabri= el Svoboda<br> <br> </p> </div> </div></div><div style= =3D"position:fixed"></div> </div><br> </body></html> --0-1041907903-1300628086=:49574-- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7793 Return-Path: <chepartaka@...> X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98688 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2011 16:58:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Mar 2011 16:58:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2011 16:58:15 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2011 16:55:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2011 16:55:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:55:30 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <im5bi2+hs3u@...> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" <chepartaka@...> Subject: Frazo #28 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=SJO3tcgGgXcrVxzmccSYHCngQbUMwUquEcJOimWh0SL0CPS7GDUbRQc X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Voluntez ankor-foye atencar nia frazo #28= , ja tradukita en la 16 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, = Novial, Volap=FCk, Idiom Neutral, Ling, Mondlango/Ulango, Neo, Sambahsa, Si= belingua, ARIEL, Paqatyl, Eurikido, LdP, Populido. Esperanto: Li shatas s= tiri novajn autojn, kaj hierau li vendis sian malnovan. Ido: Il prizas duk= tar nov automobili, e hiere il vendis sua ancien automobilo. Interlingua: = Ille ama conducer autos nove, e heri ille vendeva su auto vetule. Novial: = Lo prisa dukte nov automobiles, e yer lo vendad sen ansien automobile. Vol= ap=FCk Plidom ad stir=F6n motoravabis nulik, ed =E4delo eselom vabi b=E4ldi= k oka. Idiom Neutral: Il am vehiklar automobili nov, e presidiurne il vend= av sue automobil ansian. Ling: Il am dukt nov auto, e jer il vend se old a= uto. Mondlango/Ulango: Hi aman drivi nova awtos, ay hiere hi vendin hia di= snova awto. Neo Il libar drivi nuva autos, e yer il vendir la olda. Samba= hsa: Is preiht wehghe nov autos, ed ghes is hat pohrnt sien veut auto. Sib= elingua: Il aprecia dukter nov automobiles, e hiere il vendav su old automo= bile. ARIEL: Ile se diverta guidar autos nove Ed heri ile vendeva su auto = vetule. Paqatyl: Xofmeket pa novai avto yle aimer. Noven avtot se sva yle = hertym antkavper. Eurikido: L=FCo laiket ducere novi autos, e =E4ier l=FCo= vendi le soi v=EBii auto. LdP: Lu pri dukti nove autos, e yeri lu vendi-t= e suy lao auto. Populido: Il priz dukte nov auto's, e yer il vende sui ans= ien auto. Se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #28 aden plusa LIA-sist= emi qual Occidental/Interlingue, Latino sine Flexione, Glosa, LFN, od irg a= ltra helpo-lingui neutra, quin vi konocas. Adavane, estimati! * * * * *= * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7794 Return-Path: <qualevistandas@...> X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=pUcDuVQ-ajhBCo72Xgi7_vKOaG4t-RzIDv8TGEbdqhp7KpD7wZZeLfU X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kar Alexandre: Me preske certesas, ke tu ja konocas ed uzas omna Ido-mater= iali disponebla gratuite en Internet, ma me rekomendas a tu la Radikaro da = Pesch (La dicionario di la 10.000 radiki di la linguo Ido), olqua, se me ju= ste memoras, editesis en 1964: http://idomondo.org/radikaro.pdf Ultre to,= quale tu bone savas, tu povas disponar l'ecelanta Ido-dicionarii da Dyer (= en Angla ed Ido), nia Ido-wikivortaro, Nova Vorti inter 1988 e 2002, e dive= rsa Ido-kursi en diferanta lingui teritorial. Tamen, lo maxim importanta e= d efikiva es uzar konstante la linguo sen tro multe pavorar pri posibla er= ori, nam on pokope lernas e plubonigas sua vortaro e sua Ido-stilo. Kurajo= ed adavane, Shandru! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * http://groups.yah= oo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan = - >>>>> Lernar Ido. Hola, Partaka. Hodie, mea mesajo semblus stra= nja. Ma me ne esas facile prediktebla. Mea chefa intenco hike, en la list= o posta_Mundi, ne esas propagar Ikuso, ma lernar e praktikar altra helpopl= anlingui... precipue Ido. Esperanto (klasika) esas intelekta proprajo da = Zamenhof, nature, e Lingua Franca Nova esas intelekta proprajo da George B= oeree (Jorj Bure). Ma Ikuso ne esas intelekta proprajo da Aleshandro Shavi= ero Kasanovo Domingo. La nepersoneso cienca de Ikuso implikas ke me ne apa= rus quale "guruo", nek teorie nek praktike, de ica helpoplanlinguo sen ak= ademio nek religiono interna. Do, hike, me sendus mikra arkivo de texto k= un adresi por lernanti ed observanti de Ikuso... e nulo plus. La altra par= olanti de Ikuso parolez hike Ikuso, se oli deziras parolar. Nove, do, ad= en Ido. Kara Partaka, tu darfas demandar: pro quo tua intereso favore ad I= do? Baze, nam (pro ke?) inter la "granda" helpoplanlingui, Ido esas la pl= u cience bona e la plu senpersonista. La problemo, lernante Ido, ne esas= formacar la pluralo de la substantivi, nek konocar la pronunco de la voka= lo "e". La problemo esas facar korekte la difero inter "nam" e "pro ke", o= d adaptar la ampla vortaro filozofia internaciona por la homi qui, quale m= e, uzas ofte Ido por filozofiar. Onu parolis a me pri forumi quale "Idole= rneyo", "Idoskolo", ed cetere. Me pregas ke tu e vu, idoparolanti ed idist= i, konsilez me. La vero esas ke me bezonas precipue obtenar flueso en la u= zo cienca, teknika e filozofia, nam mea uzo de Ido esas precipue ciencotek= nika o filozofia. Kad existas verko kam "Kompleta Gramatiko Detaloza" od = "Universala Metodo", ma plus moderna, verko de Ido aden Ido pri la Ido de = hodie, quo ne esas ja la Ido de la yaro 1905? Me profitas ica mesajo po= r anuncar ke me preparas nova esayo mikra de filozofio aplikata, por la re= vuo "Posta Mundi". Ica-foye la esayo, verkota per komuna Ido, ne esus ried= ituro o riadapturo de antea verko, ma esayo unesme skribita por la revuo "= Posta_Mundi". Yen la afero: la energio atoma, per vidpunto relative origin= ala. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trig= rupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7795 Return-Path: <ila_mesajero@...> X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Ho, ya! Oporte konsidere le vorts kel rezulte den onomatopeh. Nos abe "= ma" en ling de Chinia ed en nosi lings (ma, mama, matre). E me ankei vide k= lar relat onomatopeal de Chin "feng" kun Latin "vent". (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7797 Return-Path: <lingwadeplaneta@...> X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... 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Al n= au es evidente ke inter Bush e Obama farka yok. Hey Rosa, kwo yu dumi om t= al matematika: Obama=3DBush Obama-Bush=3D0 Obama+Bush=3D2Bush Obama/Bus= h=3D1 --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" <rostislav-levchenko@.= ..> escribi=F3: > > Ili amba es mala, Kadafi e Mundiala Guvernerio. Kompati= nda popule de Libia! > > Rosto. > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogrou= ps.com, James Chandler <idojc@> escribi=F3: > > > > > > NOVA MILITO: > > = > > La Mondala Guvernerio, per la Unionita Nacioni, deklaras milito kontre= Libia. > > > > La Sekureso-Konsilistaro dil UN votis por establisar "sen= -aviaca zono" super Libia, tale invadontte la aero-spaco libiana. > > > > = Anke posibla esos de-aera ataki kontre libiana soldati surtera. > > > > N= oto historiala: > > La MG establisis "sen-aviaca zono" super Irak dum la 19= 90a yari, ante invadar ol tote en 2003. > > > > > > Globalista militema= saluti > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7798 Return-Path: <rostislav-levchenko@...> X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Mi no savev li parol "onomatop", ma nun dank a te mi save= , que "tik-tak" es onomatop. Mi trovav un artikle in Wikipedia, "onomatopes= trans-linguale", ube es tre granda liste de onomatopes in multa linguas. S= emble, "niam-niam" (manjo) e "miau" (klamo kati) es tre universala. "Mama"= anque es tre universala. If iste es un onomatop, quale tu pova explikar, p= ro quo anque "papa" es tre universal? (Quankam hike variantes posibla - "ap= a", "tata", "baba", tamen ili es ne tre distanta de "papa") In Japoni lingu= a anque "mama" e "papa" es frequente uzat (segun multa anim=E9, quel mi spe= ktav e segun diktionari e wiktionari), e "otosan" e "okasan" es forsan qual= e "patre" e "matre", quankam anke frequente es uzat in neformal komunikacio= n. Yen, e in Hispania, e in Rusia, e in Japonia mama e papa es mama e papa= . Mi askoltav che Guglo e Wiktionaro, quale "feng" es pronunciat. It es pr= onunciat "fn", vokale "e" es tre kurta, praktikale no pronunciata. Por "ven= te" mi trovav un pare de homofones, quel sembla (if kreder Wiktionaro) plu = persuadiva, quankam certe ili no es onomatopes: Kartveli: "k'ari" (4 mln pa= rlantes); Tamil: "kaRRu" (70 mln parlantes). Do, Sekay Til: "karu". Tamen, = li pronuncione in Kartveli e Tamil deve eser precizigat, ka vere to sona si= mile, ma iste no es simpla facer. Ya, Sekay Til pova eser realizat nur quam= "intelektuala teknologia" de interlinguistika, e certe un sol hom no pova = developar it, mi save iste. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.c= om, "postamundi" <chepartaka@...> escribi=F3: > > Ka vorts kel aparten a di= ferant familie, > ma kel ese interkonektat ul-manierei? > Ho, ya! Oporte ko= nsidere le vorts kel > rezulte den onomatopeh. Nos abe "ma" > en ling de Ch= inia ed en nosi lings (ma, > mama, matre). E me ankei vide klar relat > ono= matopeal de Chin "feng" kun Latin "vent". > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7799 Return-Path: <qualevistandas@...> X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Yen chof del akua. = Forsan, plusa kompani deziros kunlaborar per tradukar ta "haiku" aden plus= a helpo-lingui. Bona chanco, Toniu! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7800 Return-Path: <trigrupo@...> X-Sender: trigrupo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=oFPT7ZwVyeGK-nW-A4a2xN-2uxVvqUPslx6M2rmeme-mp58 X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------E21812BDDECAA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saluti a nia redaktero Rosto de Posta Mundi ed a la altra idoparolan= ti od idokomprenanti. Yen nova mikra esayo filozofia por la revuo Po= sta Mundi. Kad irga idoparolanto povus indikar a me la plu granda kr= imi linguala quin me exekutis? Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo D= omingo. ---------- Pri la energio atoma Ante komenc= ar mea mikra esayo filozofia pri la energia atoma, mi devus citar klasika s= arkasmo Angla che la kritikuro literatura. Irga eminenta filozofo Britana s= kribis verko pri metafiziko (o pri psikologio) e la akra blamanto dicis pri= la verko da sua kunpatriano: "Ica verko de filozofio enhavas aserti intere= sa ed originala, Desfortunoze, la aserti interesa ne esas originala, e la a= serti originala ne esas interesa.". E la blamanto pravis... Yen, pri= nia afero: quale skribar irgo pri la energio atoma quo ne esus ja konocata= trivialajo o vera informo sciencoteknika ma ja facile konsultebla altralok= e, nek imbecileso ideologia pro o kontre la energio atoma? Ya la qualeso, h= ike, desfacilesas... Me, do, intencos nur dicar kelka aserti pri la = energio atoma qui, fakte, esas nula sekreto ed anke ne sensacia revelajo no= va, ma posible oli esas aserti nekonocata generale e kun grava konsequi pra= ktika. Unesme, me observos la recenta dizastro geologia, klimata ed = atoma en Japonia, en la yaro 2011. Eventis forta tertremo quo kauzis cunami= o* (frequa marinundeso Japonia), e la tertremo kombinata kun la cunamio* pr= oduktis katastrofo en plura fabrikerii de energio atoma che la bayo ube la = tertremo e la cunamio* eventis. Cience, nulu bezonas esar katedristo= pri energio atoma por komprenar ke la konstruktajo de fabrikerii por energ= io atoma en tereni apud la maro, dense populizita ed kun frequa tersismi e = cunamii*, esas enorma imbecileso. Ma, kad ica enorma imbecileso teor= ia esas anke imbecileso praktika, konkreta? Posible ne; posible la f= abrikerii de energio atoma esis, pos la duesma mondomilito, la unika solvur= o realigebla che lando teorie ne apta por tala fabrikerii kom Japonia. = Japonia ne posedas petrolo nek gazo natura, ed olua projeti de koloniar= landi Azia rika da petrolo, gazo natura ed altra materii prima frakasis po= s la duesma mondomilito. Do, la sola fonto precipua de energio por tradicio= na potenco industria kom Japonio esis la energio atoma. Sen energio ne exis= tus industrio nek vivmoyeni por mikra lando tro populigita quale Japonia. = Onu devas elektar: o lando ne tro populigita, kun ekonomio ekologie s= tabila, o lando tro populigita, kun ekonomio quo bezonas alta e kreskanta k= onsumo de energio. Ed ica-kaze, la uzo de energio atoma o de altra fonti de= energio danjeroza e kontaminanta (la petrolo o la karbono anke esas tre ko= ntaminanta) esas quaze ne-kareebla rezulto. Onu ne povas havar la "ideala" = kunjuntajo: lando rika, industrioza, dense populigita (posible, anke mikra = e mem kun kreskanta populozeso), kun energio chipa mem sen petrolo... e tre= neta, tre protektita kontre la kontaminuro o kontre la katastrofo industri= a ed ekologia. Nature, onu povas e darfas argumentar ke la futuro es= as en la energii neta e rinovebla; ke kun la energii neta e rinovebla desap= aros la limiti ekologia, ekonomia e demografia. E me dicos: ne. Kun = nuanci, ya, ma me dicos e ridicos: ne. Nula uzo masiva de un fonto d= e energio esas neta o sen klara noco por la ekosistemo* (ambiento ekologia)= . La uzo masiva de la energio eolika* (venta) destruktas la uceli e la inse= kti, tale provokante katastrofo ekologia, ekonomia e nutriva (sen abeli ne = existas polenado, do sen abeli ne existos planti nutriva por manjar). La uz= o masiva de la energio marmovanta destruktas la fishi e la algi. Mem la uzo= masiva de la plus "natura" energifonto, la lumo de la Suno, en la praktiko= kauzas povreso e hungro, nam la vasta agri destinita a la produkturo indus= tria de energio suna o de energio kalorifa ek la alkoholo per sukeroza plan= ti, substitucas la produkturo chipa de alimenti por la mizera habitanti lok= ala. Ne existas teknologio mirakloza. La precipua solvuro esas... la= equilibro ekologia, socia, politika e kultura. La "progreso" quaze neniand= e esis equilibrata. Exemple, la "miraklo ekonomia" japona sempre akompanesi= s per katastrofi ekologia, quale la katastrofo en la bayo Minamata, ube la = zaibacui* (tradiciona forta entraprezi monopolista japona) varsis masive me= rkurio aden la bayo, tale venenagante la fishi, la peskisti e la familii de= la peskisti (yaro 1975). Nula entraprezisto de un zaibacuo* iris longe ade= n karcero. La katastrofo produktis plus kam 100 homi morta, e nombroza homi= paralizita, blinda, surda ed cetere; specife en mulieri gravida e do pose = en elia bebei. Ekonomie, la tre laudata internacione "employi eterna e bone= pagata" esis nur por elito, pro ke la mulieri generale, o la laboranti de = origino stranjera, sempre subis employi male pagata e ne stabila. Hodie la = "employi eterna e bone pagata" esas quaze preterita mito o simbolo de (hipo= krita) evo oroza japona. Me ne facos apologio pro la energio atoma n= ek anatemo kontre la energio atoma. Vice ito, me sugestas ke ni konsiderez = ke irga teknologio generale havas avantaji e desavantaji. Exemple, la energ= io atoma havas rezidui radianta quin ne havas la energio petrola, ma la ene= rgio petrola sempre produktas gazi toxika, e la energio atoma ne. Ube esas,= do, la equilibro? La desfacila equilibro esas en la konsiderado generala d= e la situeso, de la interesi e de la autentika valori de la vivo. La= ciencisti e, nature! la politikisti ne havas, e devas ne havar, la lasta p= arolo. La lasta parolo devas esar en la populo, o plu precize en la individ= ui. Ma valorar objektive neniande esis specaleso de la homo meza, desfortun= oze. E la kapitalo ne esas che la manui de la populo. Sen la kapitalo, irga= propozo esas bagatelo. E se tu, lektanto, deziras dialogor pri la e= nergio atoma, yen mea posto elektronika: trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo = yahoo punto es). Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasanovo Domingo. ------------E21812BDDECAA8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html><head= ><title>Pri la energio atoma.

      &nb= sp;Saluti a nia redaktero Rosto de Posta Mundi ed a la altra idoparolanti o= d idokomprenanti.

      &n= bsp;Yen nova mikra esayo filozofia por la revuo Posta Mundi.

=        Kad irga idoparolanto povus = indikar a me la plu granda krimi linguala quin me exekutis?

<= span class=3Drvts6>       Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Ka= sanovo Domingo.


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&nbs= p;      Pri la energio atoma


       Ante komencar mea mikra esayo fil= ozofia pri la energia atoma, mi devus citar klasika sarkasmo Angla che la k= ritikuro literatura. Irga eminenta filozofo Britana skribis verko pri metaf= iziko (o pri psikologio) e la akra blamanto dicis pri la verko da sua kunpa= triano: "Ica verko de filozofio enhavas aserti interesa ed originala, Desfo= rtunoze, la aserti interesa ne esas originala, e la aserti originala ne esa= s interesa.". E la blamanto pravis...

&nb= sp;      Yen, pri nia afero: quale skribar irgo pri la energ= io atoma quo ne esus ja konocata trivialajo o vera informo sciencoteknika m= a ja facile konsultebla altraloke, nek imbecileso ideologia pro o kontre la= energio atoma? Ya la qualeso, hike, desfacilesas...

       Me, do, intencos nur dicar kelka ase= rti pri la energio atoma qui, fakte, esas nula sekreto ed anke ne sensacia = revelajo nova, ma posible oli esas aserti nekonocata generale e kun grava k= onsequi praktika.

      &n= bsp;Unesme, me observos la recenta dizastro geologia, klimata ed atoma en J= aponia, en la yaro 2011. Eventis forta tertremo quo kauzis cunamio* (frequa= marinundeso Japonia), e la tertremo kombinata kun la cunamio* produktis ka= tastrofo en plura fabrikerii de energio atoma che la bayo ube la tertremo e= la cunamio* eventis.

     = ;  Cience, nulu bezonas esar katedristo pri energio atoma por komprena= r ke la konstruktajo de fabrikerii por energio atoma en tereni apud la maro= , dense populizita ed kun frequa tersismi e cunamii*, esas enorma imbeciles= o.

       Ma, kad ica= enorma imbecileso teoria esas anke imbecileso praktika, konkreta?

       Posible ne; posible la= fabrikerii de energio atoma esis, pos la duesma mondomilito, la unika solv= uro realigebla che lando teorie ne apta por tala fabrikerii kom Japonia.

       Japonia  ne= posedas petrolo nek gazo natura, ed olua projeti de koloniar landi Azia ri= ka da petrolo, gazo natura ed altra materii prima frakasis pos la duesma mo= ndomilito. Do, la sola fonto precipua de energio por tradiciona potenco ind= ustria kom Japonio esis la energio atoma. Sen energio ne existus industrio = nek vivmoyeni por mikra lando tro populigita quale Japonia.

<= span class=3Drvts6>       Onu devas elektar: o lando ne= tro populigita, kun ekonomio ekologie stabila, o lando tro populigita, kun= ekonomio quo bezonas alta e kreskanta konsumo de energio. Ed ica-kaze, la = uzo de energio atoma o de altra fonti de energio danjeroza e kontaminanta (= la petrolo o la karbono anke esas tre kontaminanta) esas quaze ne-kareebla = rezulto. Onu ne povas havar la "ideala" kunjuntajo: lando rika, industrioza= , dense populigita (posible, anke mikra e mem kun kreskanta populozeso), ku= n energio chipa mem sen petrolo... e tre neta, tre protektita kontre la kon= taminuro o kontre la katastrofo industria ed ekologia.

       Nature, onu povas e darfas argumen= tar ke la futuro esas en la energii neta e rinovebla; ke kun la energii net= a e rinovebla desaparos la limiti ekologia, ekonomia e demografia.

       E me dicos: ne. Kun nu= anci, ya, ma me dicos e ridicos: ne.

&nbs= p;      Nula uzo masiva de un fonto de energio esas neta o s= en klara noco por la ekosistemo* (ambiento ekologia). La uzo masiva de la e= nergio eolika* (venta) destruktas la uceli e la insekti, tale provokante ka= tastrofo ekologia, ekonomia e nutriva (sen abeli ne existas polenado, do se= n abeli ne existos planti nutriva por manjar). La uzo masiva de la energio = marmovanta destruktas la fishi e la algi. Mem la uzo masiva de la plus "nat= ura" energifonto, la lumo de la Suno, en la praktiko kauzas povreso e hungr= o, nam la vasta agri destinita a la produkturo industria de energio suna o = de energio kalorifa ek la alkoholo per sukeroza planti, substitucas la prod= ukturo chipa de alimenti por la mizera habitanti lokala.

       Ne existas teknologio mirakloza.= La precipua solvuro esas... la equilibro ekologia, socia, politika e kultu= ra. La "progreso" quaze neniande esis equilibrata. Exemple, la "miraklo eko= nomia" japona sempre akompanesis per katastrofi ekologia, quale la katastro= fo en la bayo Minamata, ube la zaibacui* (tradiciona forta entraprezi monop= olista japona) varsis masive merkurio aden la bayo, tale venenagante la fis= hi, la peskisti e la familii de la peskisti (yaro 1975). Nula entraprezisto= de un zaibacuo* iris longe aden karcero. La katastrofo produktis plus kam = 100 homi morta, e nombroza homi paralizita, blinda, surda ed cetere; specif= e en mulieri gravida e do pose en elia bebei. Ekonomie, la tre laudata inte= rnacione "employi eterna e bone pagata" esis nur por elito, pro ke la mulie= ri generale, o la laboranti de origino stranjera, sempre subis employi male= pagata e ne stabila. Hodie la "employi eterna e bone pagata" esas quaze pr= eterita mito o simbolo de (hipokrita) evo oroza japona.

       Me ne facos apologio pro la energ= io atoma nek anatemo kontre la energio atoma. Vice ito, me sugestas ke ni k= onsiderez ke irga teknologio generale havas avantaji e desavantaji. Exemple= , la energio atoma havas rezidui radianta quin ne havas la energio petrola,= ma la energio petrola sempre produktas gazi toxika, e la energio atoma ne.= Ube esas, do, la equilibro? La desfacila equilibro esas en la konsiderado = generala de la situeso, de la interesi e de la autentika valori de la vivo.=

       La ciencisti = e, nature! la politikisti ne havas, e devas ne havar, la lasta parolo. La l= asta parolo devas esar en la populo, o plu precize en la individui. Ma valo= rar objektive neniande esis specaleso de la homo meza, desfortunoze. E la k= apitalo ne esas che la manui de la populo. Sen la kapitalo, irga propozo es= as bagatelo.

       E= se tu, lektanto, deziras dialogor pri la energio atoma, yen mea posto elek= tronika: trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).

<= span class=3Drvts6>       Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasa= novo Domingo.



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Sembl a me ke, che l' par "feng/vent" lo gravi no es le vok= al, ma le konsonats FN/VN. Posiblei, le "f" de "fair" ven den onomatopeh. K= a nos vol deskovre nosi unti ling sur le Ter? (Partaka) --- En posta_Mu= ndi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Tik-tak, = Partaka. Mi no savev li parol "onomatop", ma nun dank a te mi save, que "t= ik-tak" es onomatop. Mi trovav un artikle in Wikipedia, "onomatopes trans-l= inguale", ube es tre granda liste de onomatopes in multa linguas. Semble, "= niam-niam" (manjo) e "miau" (klamo kati) es tre universala. "Mama" anque = es tre universala. If iste es un onomatop, quale tu pova explikar, pro quo = anque "papa" es tre universal? (Quankam hike variantes posibla - "apa", "ta= ta", "baba", tamen ili es ne tre distanta de "papa") In Japoni lingua anqu= e "mama" e "papa" es frequente uzat (segun multa anim=E9, quel mi spektav e= segun diktionari e wiktionari), e "otosan" e "okasan" es forsan quale "pat= re" e "matre", quankam anke frequente es uzat in neformal komunikacion. Y= en, e in Hispania, e in Rusia, e in Japonia mama e papa es mama e papa. M= i askoltav che Guglo e Wiktionaro, quale "feng" es pronunciat. It es pronun= ciat "fn", vokale "e" es tre kurta, praktikale no pronunciata. Por "vente"= mi trovav un pare de homofones, quel sembla (if kreder Wiktionaro) plu per= suadiva, quankam certe ili no es onomatopes: Kartveli: "k'ari" (4 mln parl= antes); Tamil: "kaRRu" (70 mln parlantes). Do, Sekay Til: "karu". Tamen, l= i pronuncione in Kartveli e Tamil deve eser precizigat, ka vere to sona sim= ile, ma iste no es simpla facer. 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Yen ke recente editesis nova numero dil revuo PROGRE= SO, ofical organo di ULI (Uniono por la Linguo Internaciona Ido). PROGRES= O 347 (Septembro - Decembro 2010) Kontenajo: * Vorto dal redaktero * La M= andelieri da Albert Camus * Poemeto muzikal da Partaka * La revo-sufleri di= Soisy * Plago de Sireni da Frank Roger * Mea unesma voyajo ad Westala Germ= ania * Don Juan manjas kuketi dum la posdimezo da Brian E. Drake * Algebro = di la Logiko segun L. Couturat * La misterioza insulo segun Jules Verne S= aluti e til balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7804 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74897 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2011 13:02:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Mar 2011 13:02:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2011 13:02:12 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2011 13:02:12 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2011 13:02:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:02:12 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] Vorts interkonektat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=8tn4LBYaixaUggI1U3cyLmDHU9hpxDE_nlz7IDZPWrhdhiiKq0ZddVEx6JyY X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Mi trovav un parol, quel vere sona tre simil a vente in li Chini, a "feng".= Iste es li Germani parol "F=F6hn", un aparate por sekigar harare. It deven= a del parol "foehn", warma e seka vente suflanta che montes in central Euro= pa. "Foehn" devena del nome de un del Romani deos de vente, Favonius, e ist= a nome signifika "favorat". E, quo es maxim interesanta, aparate por sekig= ar harare in li Chini es "Di=E0n chuīfēng". "F=F6hn" e "fēng= " es ver nedependanta homofones (auskulta it exemplim che Guglo), quankam l= esi uzo no es komplete identa. Mi no save, quo on deve decider in ista kaze= por Sekay Til. Mi simple kontinuara kolektar tal kazes, quante es posibla,= tande forsan esera plu komprendebla, quale iste omna pova funkcionar. Ros= to. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" es= cribi=F3: > > Me supoze ke l' bebets, kel komense dice > "a" e "o", ankei = dice spontanei "ma-ma" e > "pa-pa/ba-ba" o simil koz, samei kam lus > dice= "akho", mem se "akho" es nul koz. > Sembl a me ke, che l' par "feng/vent" = lo > gravi no es le vokal, ma le konsonats FN/VN. > Posiblei, le "f" de "f= air" ven den onomatopeh. > Ka nos vol deskovre nosi unti ling sur le Ter? >= (Partaka) > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7805 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" escribi=F3: > > Mi trovav un parol, quel vere sona tre simil a ve= nte in li Chini, a "feng". Iste es li Germani parol "F=F6hn", un aparate po= r sekigar harare. It devena del parol "foehn", warma e seka vente suflanta = che montes in central Europa. "Foehn" devena del nome de un del Romani deos= de vente, Favonius, e ista nome signifika "favorat". > E, quo es maxim in= teresanta, aparate por sekigar harare in li Chini es "Di=E0n chuīf= 5;ng". > "F=F6hn" e "fēng" es ver nedependanta homofones (auskulta it = exemplim che Guglo), quankam lesi uzo no es komplete identa. Mi no save, qu= o on deve decider in ista kaze por Sekay Til. Mi simple kontinuara kolektar= tal kazes, quante es posibla, tande forsan esera plu komprendebla, quale i= ste omna pova funkcionar. > > Rosto. > > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7806 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * http://groups.yahoo= .com/group/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7810 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=Ko4DDaDjwmHVwNIXrQbSDLK_hRF5igEhqKjBFu6K0m_p4SxA3XXRwnAD7MBY X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Tik-tak, Alexandre. Mi parlektav tei verke. Pri lingua. Mi ipsa aprecia, q= uande alqui miksa artificial linguas, ma si tu zorga pri pureso de tei Ido,= yen quo mi videskav: 1) "pravis" ("E la blamanto pravis...") In Ido deve = eser "esis justa". Li radike "prav" es esperantismo, e quo anke es mal, sla= vismo. Yen du citates fro KGD (Kompleta Gramatiko Detaloza) koncernu slavis= mes: - "La slavi devas do atencar por ne falar en l'idiotismo di sua lingui= ..."; - "On vidas, ke tala sintaxo (Slavatra) esus adminime stranjera, e (p= recipue) ne klara...". 2) "neniande" Iste es mixuro de Ido e Espo. "Neni-"= es esperantismo, in Ido es "nul-", e vice "neniande" deve eser "nultempe" = (Esque "nulkande" darfa eser uzat, mi ipsa no save, semble, iste es un bebs= onisme :) E pro quo, Alexandre, tu no skriba artikles por li jurnalo in Ik= uso? Oblivia, quo mi dicev mala pri Ikuso, iste es nur mei personal opinion= e. Por li jurnalo plu multa interkomprenebla linguas esera plu bona. Yen, t= u ipsa skriba in Ido e posim dicera, que POSTA MUNDI es un komplot de idist= es. E anke mi pensa, que mi deve skribar ante li artikule in li jurnale: = "Li redakterie no es respondebla pri certa kritiko koncernu politikal e soc= ial sistema del certa lande, iste es nur li opinione del autore" Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7811 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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TAKATA" , Bebson Y.TAKATA (Idia), , , In-Reply-To: <24179445.105521300858657016.bebson@...> References: <24179445.105521300858657016.bebson@...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------A61A824A25912924" From: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Reply-To: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Subject: Re: Multa danki! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=CDjNzSPpdPIS09qN6taL6K3dVR6OMnHN3HGKSQ9LzvfaHcE X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------A61A824A25912924 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saluto, Bebson. Me, anke, joyas ke tu esas bone. Idale, me dicas a tu ke= nun me preparas mikra esayo filozofiala per Ido pri la energio atoma en Ja= ponia ed en la mondo; e me deziras filozofiar freque per Ido. Me intencos s= endar a tu la esayo, ma purigata de olua granda krimi linguala. Tu vivez e= standez bone! Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektron= ika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- Mesajo origi= nala ----- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= Kara Samideani: Japonia nun en profunda chagreno ya povas trans'vivor. = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Multa danki = pro via tre afabla sucio por Japonia ed anke me. Dum kelka semani me esis e= n loko ube me ne povis uzar komputori. Tamen nun itere me laboreskas en Idi= a pro ke me volas kun'vivor kun Ido til mea morto. Hodie' me joyoze recevi= s nova "Kuriero Internaciona" ecelanta por omna Idisti de Sro Jean MARTIGNO= N' ed anke privata letro, qua kurajigas me. Ido vivez, Vivez Ido! Ed Japon= ia vivez, Vivez Japonia! -----------------------------------------------= ----------- Sincere vua, Bebson HOCHFELD, Stradivari'isto sur la tekto ...= .. Ido-Kurso.: http://www.geocities.jp/hochfeld/ IdoLerneyo: http://group= s.yahoo.com/group/idolerneyo/ ******************************************= **************************** Populo dormas pacoze en sua lito dum la nokto= nur pro ke feroca viri stacas pronta violentar en la nomo di defenso por = la pacozi. (ORWELL) Pacifisti renuncas violento pro ke lin gardante, uli a= ltra olun uzas. **********************************************************= ************ ------------A61A824A25912924 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Multa danki!

      &nb= sp;Saluto, Bebson.

 =      Me, anke, joyas ke tu esas bone.

       Idale, me dicas a= tu ke nun me preparas mikra esayo filozofiala per Ido pri la energio atoma= en Japonia ed en la mondo; e me deziras filozofiar freque per Ido. Me inte= ncos sendar a tu la esayo, ma purigata de olua granda krimi linguala.

       Tu = vivez e standez bone!

&nb= sp;      Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto = elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).

<= p class=3Drvps2>

       ----- Mesajo originala -----


       =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

       Kara Samideani: Japonia nun en pr= ofunda chagreno ya povas trans'vivor.

       =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


    &nbs= p;  Multa danki pro via tre afabla sucio por Japonia ed anke me. Dum k= elka semani me esis en loko ube me ne povis uzar komputori. Tamen nun itere=

me laboreskas en Idia pro= ke me volas kun'vivor kun Ido til mea morto.

<= span class=3Drvts30>        Hodie' me joyoze recevis no= va "Kuriero Internaciona" ecelanta por omna Idisti de Sro Jean MARTIGNON' e= d anke privata letro, qua kurajigas me.

       Ido vivez, Vivez Ido! Ed Japonia = vivez, Vivez Japonia! 


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       Since= re vua, Bebson HOCHFELD, Stradivari'isto sur la tekto .....

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=bASmsu5IXTFX2FPdxDJREvGsiCqFB-ku__jtV5DPS_Jfib4 X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------FC10C3514B43797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Komencas la antologio. Saluto, Partaka. Yen la grava = evento literaturala: tua humurala, cienco-fiktiva e simbolala romano en Ido= pri la helpoplanlingui, la romano "Habemus LIA". Me pensas ke la pl= u granda laudo de un verko literaturala esas la laudo sobra. Do, me = laudos sobre tua verko: mi diros, simple, ke tua verko "Habemus LIA" esas t= am bona kam por konservar olua intereso tradukota aden lingui teritoria e l= ektota da homi nule interesita che la helpoplanlingui. Posible tu ja= konocas la existeso de un listo por antologio de tala verki, la listo "Kul= turafruto", kun adreso internetala http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kultura= fruto/. Deskripto de la listo Kulturafruto: la intenciono de la listo i= sa kulturafruto esan anpla ei anbiciona, ma esplikar pe kuesta intenciono r= esultan afero rapida. la intenciono de isa kulturafruto esan ke las mesajan= tos produktun bonas kulturafrutos, bonas frutos kulturas via helpoplanlingu= os, tanto bonas ke itos restun interesantas inkluso tradukatas ba linguos t= eritorias ei lekturatas fa uomos non interesatas por las helpoplanlinguos. = kuesta listo permesan kualkuna helpoplanlinguo, komo dentro las listos tesa= Bablo (http://groups.google.com/group/bablo/) ei tesa Posta Mundi (http://= es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_mundi), ma eto inoltre permesan las linguos= teritorias sinplatas ei regulatas; la limito inter linguo helpanta planata= ei linguo teritoria sinplata esan difusa, donke linguos komo tesa Basic En= glish fa tesula Ogden ou tesa romanico fa tesula Josu Lavin esan inoltre pe= rmesatas aki. naturamente, las helpoplanlinguos klasikas, komo la espo (Esp= eranto), la volapuko, la ido, la novialo, la ulango, la ikuso, la linguo fr= anka nova, la neo, ecetera, esan bonvenatas sibian. adreso interneta de kue= sta listo: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kulturafruto/ Ampl' et ambiti= oza es l'intentio dil Culturfructolist, ma xplicar pri tsa-intentio rezult = quic-afer: cel mesajanti productos bonculturfructi tra helpplanlingui, tale= -ce tsi rezultos interez=C3=A3 incluze tteritoriallinguitraduct=C3=A1 e lect= =C3=A1 da homi seninterez in helpoplanlingui. Tsa-list permez celca helppl= anlinguo, com inla listi Bablo (http://groups.google.com/group/bablo/) e Po= sta Mundi (http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_mundi), ma ance permezesa= s la teritoriallingui simpl=C3=A1 e regular=C3=A1; or la limit inter li es = difuza, pro-to lingui com beisicinglix o romanico inter altra esos ance per= mez=C3=A1 hice. Nature, la clasichelpplanlingui com esperanto, volapyc, ido= , novial, ulang, icuso, linguofrancanova, neo, etcetera, esos bonven=C3=A1.= tsa-listo-i-adres: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kulturafruto/ = E la unesma verko quan me selektis por la antologio kolektota en ita listo = esas tua verko, "Habemus LIA". Tua verko koincidas kun mea esayo fil= ozofiala en Ido, "Pri la energio atoma". Evidente, komparar tu e me Ido-lit= erature esas quale komparar Deo... ed un advokato. Ma tu darfas ques= tionar: Aleshandro, kad existas ula difero inter ita koruptero e tu? = Posible yes: la citita advokato ne volas lernar etiko da Dio, ma me volas = lernar gramatiko, literaturo ed altra valori idala da tu. Humile e s= hame me risalutas tu, maestro Partaka. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Ka= sanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo p= unto es). ----- Mesajo originala ----- Estimata samideani e= d amiki en la tota mondo: Per ica mesajo, me maxim volunte deziras i= nformar vi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi mea original Ido-verko, "H= abemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento, qua, segun semblo, esas ja disponebla, lekt= ebla e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kasper, qua enretigis ol: http:= //www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf Me deziras maxim bona e pro= fitoza lekto a vi omna, e sendas a vi mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto de= l urbo Barcelona. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.com= /group/IdoCatalaOccitan - ------------FC10C3514B43797 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Komencas la antologio (ico esis: Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA"= ). <= /style>

    =    Komencas la antologio.


   =    Saluto, Partaka.

       Yen la grava evento literaturala: tua humura= la, cienco-fiktiva e simbolala romano en Ido pri la helpoplanlingui, la rom= ano "Habemus LIA".

  &= nbsp;    Me pensas ke la plu granda laudo de un verko literatural= a esas la laudo sobra.

&nbs= p;      Do, me laudos sobre tua verko: mi diros, simple, ke = tua verko "Habemus LIA" esas tam bona kam por konservar olua intereso tradu= kota aden lingui teritoria e lektota da homi nule interesita che la helpopl= anlingui.

    &nb= sp;  Posible tu ja konocas la existeso de un listo por antologio de ta= la verki, la listo "Kulturafruto", kun adreso internetala http:= //es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kulturafruto/.


  =      Deskripto de la listo Kulturafruto:


       la intenciono de la listo isa kulturaf= ruto esan anpla ei anbiciona, ma esplikar pe kuesta intenciono resultan afe= ro rapida. la intenciono de isa kulturafruto esan ke las mesajantos produkt= un bonas kulturafrutos, bonas frutos kulturas via helpoplanlinguos, tanto b= onas ke itos restun interesantas inkluso tradukatas ba linguos teritorias e= i lekturatas fa uomos non interesatas por las helpoplanlinguos.
= kuesta listo permesan kualkuna helpoplanlinguo, komo de= ntro las listos tesa Bablo (http://groups.google.com/group/bablo/) ei tesa = Posta Mundi (http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_mundi), ma eto inoltre = permesan las linguos teritorias sinplatas ei regulatas; la limito inter lin= guo helpanta planata ei linguo teritoria sinplata esan difusa, donke linguo= s komo tesa Basic English fa tesula Ogden ou tesa romanico fa tesula Josu L= avin esan inoltre permesatas aki. naturamente, las helpoplanlinguos klasika= s, komo la espo (Esperanto), la volapuko, la ido, la novialo, la ulango, la= ikuso, la linguo franka nova, la neo, ecetera, esan bonvenatas sibian.
adreso interneta de kuesta listo: http://es.gro= ups.yahoo.com/group/kulturafruto/
       Ampl' et ambitioza es l'i= ntentio dil Culturfructolist, ma xplicar pri tsa-intentio rezult quic-afer:= cel mesajanti productos bonculturfructi tra helpplanlingui, tale-ce tsi re= zultos interez=C3=A3 incluze teritoriallinguitraduct=C3=A1 e lect=C3=A1 da = homi seninterez in helpoplanlingui.
  =      Tsa-list permez celca helpplanlinguo, com inla listi Ba= blo (http://groups.google.com/group/bablo/) e Posta Mundi (http://es.groups= .yahoo.com/group/posta_mundi), ma ance permezesas la teritoriallingui simpl= =C3=A1 e regular=C3=A1; or la limit inter li es difuza, pro-to lingui com b= eisicinglix o romanico inter altra esos ance permez=C3=A1 hice. Nature, la = clasichelpplanlingui com esperanto, volapyc, ido, novial, ulang, icuso, lin= guofrancanova, neo, etcetera, esos bonven=C3=A1.
tsa-listo-i-adres: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kulturafruto/


       E la unesma verko quan me = selektis por la antologio kolektota en ita listo esas tua verko, "Habemus L= IA".

      &= nbsp;Tua verko koincidas kun mea esayo filozofiala en Ido, "Pri la energio = atoma". Evidente, komparar tu e me Ido-literature esas quale komparar Deo..= . ed un advokato.

  &n= bsp;    Ma tu darfas questionar: Aleshandro, kad existas ula dife= ro inter ita koruptero e tu?

       Posible yes: la citita advokato ne volas lerna= r etiko da Dio, ma me volas lernar gramatiko, literaturo ed altra valori id= ala da tu.

    &n= bsp;  Humile e shame me risalutas tu, maestro Partaka.

       Amike, Aleshand= ro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo= arobo yahoo punto es).

      &nbs= p;----- Mesajo originala -----


    &nbs= p;  Estimata samideani ed amiki en la tota mondo:

       Per ica mesajo, me = maxim volunte deziras informar vi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi mea= original Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento, qua, segun semblo, e= sas ja disponebla, lektebla e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kasper, qua enret= igis ol: 


<= /p>

       = htt= p://www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf


  &nb= sp;    Me deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna, e senda= s a vi mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto del urbo Barcelona. <= /p>


<= span class=3Drvts6>       P A R T A K A

       * * * * * * * *= * 


       http://group= s.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 

       <= a class=3Drvts14 href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan">ht= tp://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -=


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=wWGObyn38wmasy4ucmRbtNA0i3nr3J0WmtUEq1NK4_3due-ytjMIsQE X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas --0-1524230824-1300996838=:53403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Estimat Alexandre: Danko pro tua komplimenti pri mea verko, "Habemus LIA",= recente enretigita kom pdf-o. Ma..., eska tu advere parlektis tante rapid= e la versiono kompleta e definitiva, qua jus enretigesis, od eska tu lektis= la tota romano, ma nur pazope, tal qual me sendis ol aden nia forumi dum t= ri yari? (Me kalkulis 4 o 5 hori por parlektar Habemus LIA) Nu, voluntez d= urar informar ni pri tua antologio! Me certesas ke, adminime en Esperanto k= lasika ed en Ido, tu trovos plura verki literatural original, qui meritos t= ua atenco ed aprobo. Danko ed adavane, amiko! P A R T A K A * * * * * * = * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.c= om/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - ________________________________ De: Alexan= dre Xavier Casanova Domingo A: Partaka Dato: Jovdie, la 24ma di marto 2011, 00:17 kl. Pri: Kome= ncas la antologio (ico esis: Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA"). = Komencas la antologio. Saluto, Partaka. Yen la grava event= o literaturala: tua humurala, cienco-fiktiva e simbolala romano en Ido pri= la helpoplanlingui, la romano "Habemus LIA". Me pensas ke la plu gr= anda laudo de un verko literaturala esas la laudo sobra. Do, me lau= dos sobre tua verko: mi diros, simple, ke tua verko "Habemus LIA" esas tam= bona kam por konservar olua intereso tradukota aden lingui teritoria e le= ktota da homi nule interesita che la helpoplanlingui. Posible tu ja = konocas la existeso de un listo por antologio de tala verki, la listo "Kul= turafruto", kun adreso internetala http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kultur= afruto/. E la unesma verko quan me selektis por la antologio kolekto= ta en ita listo esas tua verko, "Habemus LIA". Tua verko koincidas = kun mea esayo filozofiala en Ido, "Pri la energio atoma". Evidente, kompar= ar tu e me Ido-literature esas quale komparar Deo... ed un advokato. = Ma tu darfas questionar: Aleshandro, kad existas ula difero inter ita ko= ruptero e tu? Posible yes: la citita advokato ne volas lernar etiko = da Dio, ma me volas lernar gramatiko, literaturo ed altra valori idala da = tu. Humile e shame me risalutas tu, maestro Partaka. Amike, A= leshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (= trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- Mesajo originala ----- = Estimata samideani ed amiki en la tota mondo: Per ica mesajo, me m= axim volunte deziras informar vi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi mea= original Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento, qua, segun semblo, = esas ja disponebla, lektebla e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kasper, qua enr= etigis ol: http://www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf Me= deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna, e sendas a vi mea maxim k= ordial ed amikal saluto del urbo Barcelona. P A R T A K A *= * * * * * * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - --0-1524230824-1300996838=:53403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Estimat Alexandre:

Danko pro = tua komplimenti pri mea verko,
"Habemus LIA", recente enretigita = kom pdf-o.

Ma..., eska tu advere parlektis tante r= apide la
versiono kompleta e definitiva, qua jus enretigesis,
od eska tu lektis la tota romano, ma nur pazope,
tal qual = me sendis ol aden nia forumi dum tri yari?
(Me kalkulis 4 o 5 hor= i por parlektar Habemus LIA)

Nu, voluntez durar in= formar ni pri tua antologio!
Me certesas ke, adminime en Esperant= o klasika
ed en Ido, tu trovos plura verki literatural original,<= /div>
qui meritos tua atenco ed aprobo.

Danko = ed adavane, amiko!


P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * * 
 

http://gr= oups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoC= atalaOccitan -


=
De: Alexand= re Xavier Casanova Domingo
A: Partaka
Dato: Jovdi= e, la 24ma di marto 2011, 00:17 kl.
Pri: Komencas la antologio (ico esis: Enretigesis la ver= ko "Habemus LIA").

 

<= /p>

       Komencas la antologi= o.


      &nb= sp;Saluto, Partaka.

     = ;  Yen la grava evento literaturala: tua humurala, cienco-fiktiva e si= mbolala romano en Ido pri la helpoplanlingui, la romano "Habemus LIA".

       Me pensas ke la = plu granda laudo de un verko literaturala esas la laudo sobra.

<= p>       Do, me laudos sobre tua = verko: mi diros, simple, ke tua verko "Habemus LIA" esas tam bona kam por k= onservar olua intereso tradukota aden lingui teritoria e lektota da homi nu= le interesita che la helpoplanlingui.

&= nbsp;      Posible tu ja konocas la existeso de un listo por= antologio de tala verki, la listo "Kulturafruto", kun adreso internetala&n= bsp;http://es.groups.yahoo.com/= group/kulturafruto/.

      =  E la unesma verko quan me selektis por la antologio kolektota en ita = listo esas tua verko, "Habemus LIA".

&n= bsp;      Tua verko koincidas kun mea esayo filozofiala en I= do, "Pri la energio atoma". Evidente, komparar tu e me Ido-literature esas = quale komparar Deo... ed un advokato.

&= nbsp;      Ma tu darfas questionar: Aleshandro, kad existas = ula difero inter ita koruptero e tu?

&n= bsp;      Posible yes: la citita advokato ne volas lernar et= iko da Dio, ma me volas lernar gramatiko, literaturo ed altra valori idala = da tu.

       Humil= e e shame me risalutas tu, maestro Partaka.

       Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo= , posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).


       ----= - Mesajo originala -----


&n= bsp;      Estimata samideani ed amiki en la tota mondo:

       Per ica mesajo, = me maxim volunte deziras informar vi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi = mea original Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento, qua, segun semblo= , esas ja disponebla, lektebla e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kasper, qua en= retigis ol: 


  &n= bsp;    http://www.liter= aturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf


&= nbsp;      Me deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna= , e sendas a vi mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto del urbo Barcelona. = ;


      &nbs= p;P A R T A K A

      &n= bsp;* * * * * * * * * 


       http://gr= oups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - 

       http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccita= n -


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=rA-Bv1EO9A9y4MShUSr9Apgs3Gux9JnBalbofU8De5LrzK8 X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------9A1E42203439D29F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saluti a nia redaktero Rosto de Posta Mundi ed a la altra idoparolan= ti od idokomprenanti. Yen mea mikra esayo filozofia por la revuo Pos= ta Mundi, ja korektita kun via helpo. Danko! Me korektis erori grama= tikala od ortografiala, e me plulongigis kelka frazi por obtenar plus grand= a klareso. Me, do, ne chanjis la mesajo. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero = Kasanovo Domingo. ---------- Pri la energio atomala Ante komenc= ar mea mikra esayo filozofiala pri la energio atomala, mi devus citar klasi= ka sarkasmo Angla che la kritikuro literaturala. Ula eminenta filozofo Brit= ana skribis verko pri metafiziko (o pri psikologio) ed ula akra-humora blam= anto dicis pri la verko da sua kunpatriano: "Ica verko de filozofio enhavas= aserti interesiva ed originala, Desfortunoze, la aserti interesiva ne esas= originala, e la aserti originala ne esas interesiva.". E la blamanto esis = justa... Yen, pri nia afero: quale skribar ulo pri la energio atoma quo ne= esus ja konocata trivialajo o vera informo ciencoteknikala ma ja facile ko= nsultebla altraloke, nek imbecileso ideologiala pro o kontre la energio ato= ma? Ya la qualeso, hike, desfacilesas... Me, do, intencos nur dicar kelka = aserti pri la energio atomala qui, fakte, esas nula sekreto ed anke ne sens= acionala revelajo nova, ma posible oli esas aserti nekonocata generale e ku= n grava konsequi praktika. Unesme, me observos la recenta dizastro geologi= ala, klimatala ed atomala en Japonia, en la yaro 2011. Eventis forta tertre= mo quo kauzis cunamio* (frequa marinundeso Japona), e la tertremo kombinata= kun la cunamio* produktis katastrofo en plura fabrikerii de energio atomal= a che la bayo ube la tertremo e la cunamio* eventis. Cience, nulu bezonas = esar katedristo pri energio atoma por komprenar ke la konstruktajo de fabri= kerii por energio atoma en tereni apud la maro, dense populizita ed kun fre= qua tersismi e cunamii*, esas enorma imbecileso. Ma, kad ica enorma imbeci= leso teoriala esas anke imbecileso praktika, konkreta? Posible ne; posible= la fabrikerii de energio atomala esis, pos la duesma mondomilito, la unika= solvuro realigebla che lando teorie ne apta por tala fabrikerii kom Japoni= a. Japonia ne posedas petrolo nek gazo naturala, ed olua projeti de kolon= iar landi en Azia rika da petrolo, gazo naturala ed altra materii prima fra= kasis pos la duesma mondomilito. Do, la sola fonto precipua de energio por = tradicionala potenco industriala kom Japonia esis la energio atomala. Sen e= nergio ne existus industrio nek vivmoyeni por mikra lando tro populigita qu= ale Japonia. Onu devas elektar: sive lando ne tro populigita, kun ekonomio= ekologie stabila, sive lando tro populigita, kun ekonomio quo bezonas alta= e kreskanta konsumo de energio. Ed ica-kaze, la uzo de energio atomala o l= a uzo de altra fonti de energio danjeroza e kontaminanta (la petrolo o la k= arbono anke esas tre kontaminanta) esas quaze ne-kareebla rezulto. Onu ne p= ovas havar la "ideala" kunjuntajo: lando rika, industrioza, dense populigit= a (posible, anke mikra e mem kun kreskanta populozeso), kun energio chipa m= em sen petrolo... e tre neta, tre protektita kontre la kontaminuro o kontre= la katastrofo industriala ed ekologiala. Nature, onu povas e darfas argum= entar ke la futuro esas en la energii neta e rinovebla; ke kun la energii n= eta e rinovebla desaparos la limiti ekologiala, ekonomiala e demografiala. = E me dicos: ne. Kun nuanci, ya, ma me dicos e ridicos: ne. Nula uzo masiv= a de un fonto de energio esas neta o sen klara noco por la ekosistemo* (amb= iento ekologiala). La uzo masiva per vento-mueleyi de la energio eolika* (v= entala) destruktas la uceli e la insekti, tale provokante katastrofo ekolog= iala, ekonomiala e nutriva (sen abeli ne existas polenado, do sen abeli ne = existos planti nutriva por manjar). La uzo masiva per aquo-mueleyi de la en= ergio marmovanta destruktas la fishi e la algi. Mem la uzo masiva de la plu= s "naturala" energifonto, la lumo de la Suno, en la praktiko kauzas povreso= e hungro, nam la vasta agri destinita a la produkturo industriala de energ= io sunala per plaki sunorecevanta od a la produkturo industriala de energio= kalorifa ek la alkoholo per sukeroza planti, substitucas la produkturo chi= pa de alimenti por la mizera habitanti lokala. Rekte per la plaki sunorecev= anta o nerekte per la planti sukeroza (la suno produktas sukeroza planti, l= a sukero produktas alkoholo e la alkoholo produktas energio kalorifa) la en= ergio sunala okupas la vasta agri, vice la planti od animali nutriva. Ne e= xistas teknologio mirakloza. La precipua solvuro esas... la equilibro ekolo= giala, sociala, politikala e kulturala. La "progreso" quaze nultempe esis e= quilibrata. Exemple, la "miraklo ekonomiala" Japona sempre akompanesis per = katastrofi ekologiala, quale la katastrofo en la bayo Minamata, ube la zaib= acui* (tradicionala forta entraprezi monopolista Japona) varsis masive merk= urio aden la bayo, tale venenagante la fishi, la peskisti e la familii de l= a peskisti (yaro 1975). Nula entraprezisto de un zaibacuo* iris longe aden = karcero. La katastrofo produktis plus kam 100 homi mortita, e nombroza homi= paralizita, blinda, surda ed cetere; specife en mulieri gravida e do pose = en elia bebei. Ekonomie, la tre laudata internacione "employi eternala e bo= ne pagata" esis nur por elito, pro ke la mulieri generale, o la laboranti d= e origino stranjera, sempre subis employi male pagata e ne stabila. Hodie l= a "employi eternala e bone pagata" esas quaze preteritala mito o simbolo de= (hipokritala) evo oroza Japona. Me ne facos apologio pro la energio atoma= la nek anatemo kontre la energio atomala. Vice ito, me sugestas ke ni konsi= derez ke irga teknologio generale havas avantaji e desavantaji. Exemple, la= energio atomala havas rezidui radianta quin ne havas la energio petrolala,= ma la energio petrolala sempre produktas gazi toxikala, e la energio atoma= la ne. Ube esas, do, la equilibro? La desfacila equilibro esas en la konsid= erado generala de la situeso, de la interesi e de la autentika valori de la= vivo. La ciencisti e, nature! la politikisti ne havas, e devas ne havar, = la lasta parolo. La lasta parolo devas esar en la populo, o plu precize en = la individui. Ma valorar objektive nultempe esis specaleso de la homo meza,= desfortunoze. E la kapitalo ne esas che la manui de la populo. Sen la kapi= talo, irga propozo esas bagatelo. E se tu, lektanto, deziras dialogor pri = la energio atomala, yen mea posto elektronika: trigrupo@... (trigrupo = arobo yahoo punto es). Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasanovo Domingo. ------------9A1E42203439D29F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pri la energio atomala (texto korektita).

       Saluti a nia redaktero Rosto de Posta Mundi ed = a la altra idoparolanti od idokomprenanti.

       Yen mea mikra esayo filozofia po= r la revuo Posta Mundi, ja korektita kun via helpo. Danko!

       Me korektis eror= i gramatikala od ortografiala, e me plulongigis kelka frazi por obtenar plu= s granda klareso. Me, do, ne chanjis la mesajo.

       Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero = Kasanovo Domingo.


       ----= ------


       Pri la energio= atomala


       Ante komenca= r mea mikra esayo filozofiala pri la energio atomala, mi devus citar klasik= a sarkasmo Angla che la kritikuro literaturala. Ula eminenta filozofo Brita= na skribis verko pri metafiziko (o pri psikologio) ed ula akra-humora blama= nto dicis pri la verko da sua kunpatriano: "Ica verko de filozofio enhavas = aserti interesiva ed originala, Desfortunoze, la aserti interesiva ne esas = originala, e la aserti originala ne esas interesiva.". E la blamanto esis j= usta...

    &nbs= p;  Yen, pri nia afero: quale skribar ulo pri la energio atoma quo ne = esus ja konocata trivialajo o vera informo ciencoteknikala ma ja facile kon= sultebla altraloke, nek imbecileso ideologiala pro o kontre la energio atom= a? Ya la qualeso, hike, desfacilesas...

       Me, do, intencos nur dicar kelka a= serti pri la energio atomala qui, fakte, esas nula sekreto ed anke ne sensa= cionala revelajo nova, ma posible oli esas aserti nekonocata generale e kun= grava konsequi praktika.

=        Unesme, me observos la recenta dizastro geologia= la, klimatala ed atomala en Japonia, en la yaro 2011. Eventis forta tertrem= o quo kauzis cunamio* (frequa marinundeso Japona), e la tertremo kombinata = kun la cunamio* produktis katastrofo en plura fabrikerii de energio atomala= che la bayo ube la tertremo e la cunamio* eventis.

       Cience, nulu bezonas e= sar katedristo pri energio atoma por komprenar ke la konstruktajo de fabrik= erii por energio atoma en tereni apud la maro, dense populizita ed kun freq= ua tersismi e cunamii*, esas enorma imbecileso.

       Ma, kad ica enorma imbecil= eso teoriala esas anke imbecileso praktika, konkreta?

       Posible ne; posibl= e la fabrikerii de energio atomala esis, pos la duesma mondomilito, la unik= a solvuro realigebla che lando teorie ne apta por tala fabrikerii kom Japon= ia.

      &= nbsp;Japonia  ne posedas petrolo nek gazo naturala, ed olua projeti de= koloniar landi en Azia rika da petrolo, gazo naturala ed altra materii pri= ma frakasis pos la duesma mondomilito. Do, la sola fonto precipua de energi= o por tradicionala potenco industriala kom Japonia esis la energio atomala.= Sen energio ne existus industrio nek vivmoyeni por mikra lando tro populig= ita quale Japonia.

  =      Onu devas elektar: sive lando ne tro populigita, kun ek= onomio ekologie stabila, sive lando tro populigita, kun ekonomio quo bezona= s alta e kreskanta konsumo de energio. Ed ica-kaze, la uzo de energio atoma= la o la uzo de altra fonti de energio danjeroza e kontaminanta (la petrolo = o la karbono anke esas tre kontaminanta) esas quaze ne-kareebla rezulto. On= u ne povas havar la "ideala" kunjuntajo: lando rika, industrioza, dense pop= uligita (posible, anke mikra e mem kun kreskanta populozeso), kun energio c= hipa mem sen petrolo... e tre neta, tre protektita kontre la kontaminuro o = kontre la katastrofo industriala ed ekologiala.

       Nature, onu povas e darfas= argumentar ke la futuro esas en la energii neta e rinovebla; ke kun la ene= rgii neta e rinovebla desaparos la limiti ekologiala, ekonomiala e demograf= iala.

     =  E me dicos: ne. Kun nuanci, ya, ma me dicos e ridicos: ne.

       Nula uzo= masiva de un fonto de energio esas neta o sen klara noco por la ekosistemo= * (ambiento ekologiala). La uzo masiva per vento-mueleyi de la energio eoli= ka* (ventala) destruktas la uceli e la insekti, tale provokante katastrofo = ekologiala, ekonomiala e nutriva (sen abeli ne existas polenado, do sen abe= li ne existos planti nutriva por manjar). La uzo masiva per aquo-mueleyi de= la energio marmovanta destruktas la fishi e la algi. Mem la uzo masiva de = la plus "naturala" energifonto, la lumo de la Suno, en la praktiko kauzas p= ovreso e hungro, nam la vasta agri destinita a la produkturo industriala de= energio sunala per plaki sunorecevanta od a la produkturo industriala de e= nergio kalorifa ek la alkoholo per sukeroza planti, substitucas la produktu= ro chipa de alimenti por la mizera habitanti lokala. Rekte per la plaki sun= orecevanta o nerekte per la planti sukeroza (la suno produktas sukeroza pla= nti, la sukero produktas alkoholo e la alkoholo produktas energio kalorifa)= la energio sunala okupas la vasta agri, vice la planti od animali nutriva.=

      &nbs= p;Ne existas teknologio mirakloza. La precipua solvuro esas... la equilibro= ekologiala, sociala, politikala e kulturala. La "progreso" quaze nultempe = esis equilibrata. Exemple, la "miraklo ekonomiala" Japona sempre akompanesi= s per katastrofi ekologiala, quale la katastrofo en la bayo Minamata, ube l= a zaibacui* (tradicionala forta entraprezi monopolista Japona) varsis masiv= e merkurio aden la bayo, tale venenagante la fishi, la peskisti e la famili= i de la peskisti (yaro 1975). Nula entraprezisto de un zaibacuo* iris longe= aden karcero. La katastrofo produktis plus kam 100 homi mortita, e nombroz= a homi paralizita, blinda, surda ed cetere; specife en mulieri gravida e do= pose en elia bebei. Ekonomie, la tre laudata internacione "employi eternal= a e bone pagata" esis nur por elito, pro ke la mulieri generale, o la labor= anti de origino stranjera, sempre subis employi male pagata e ne stabila. H= odie la "employi eternala e bone pagata" esas quaze preteritala mito o simb= olo de (hipokritala) evo oroza Japona.

       Me ne facos apologio pro la energio= atomala nek anatemo kontre la energio atomala. Vice ito, me sugestas ke ni= konsiderez ke irga teknologio generale havas avantaji e desavantaji. Exemp= le, la energio atomala havas rezidui radianta quin ne havas la energio petr= olala, ma la energio petrolala sempre produktas gazi toxikala, e la energio= atomala ne. Ube esas, do, la equilibro? La desfacila equilibro esas en la = konsiderado generala de la situeso, de la interesi e de la autentika valori= de la vivo.

   =    La ciencisti e, nature! la politikisti ne havas, e devas ne h= avar, la lasta parolo. La lasta parolo devas esar en la populo, o plu preci= ze en la individui. Ma valorar objektive nultempe esis specaleso de la homo= meza, desfortunoze. E la kapitalo ne esas che la manui de la populo. Sen l= a kapitalo, irga propozo esas bagatelo.

       E se tu, lektanto, deziras dialogo= r pri la energio atomala, yen mea posto elektronika: trigrupo@... (tri= grupo arobo yahoo punto es).

       Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasanovo Domingo.


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Me kurajigas tu durar publikigar ol = periodale kun nova ed interesiva Ido-artikli. To quo advere men shokis e s= urprizis es la nomo, quan tu selektis por la revuo, Gazuyi, nam tu kustuma= s dis-sekar certena vorti en Ido, mem se li esas tote internaciona e, quank= am tu ja komentis quon tu intencas per "Gazuyi", irgu povus unesmavide inte= rpretar tal nomo tale: gaz.uy.i (kontenuyi di gazo) :-) Adavane tua nova I= do-projeto, amiko! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * ---= En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "lenadi_moucina" skr= ibis: Postamundani, Me editis "Gazuyi", nova revu-edituro en Ido (proba= ble kun kelka erori linguala). La pre-unesma publikigajo ne es plus kam pr= ototipo kun texti prenita hike o ibe. La kuriozi povas deskargar la dokumen= to .pdf ye la adreso : http://panglosa.chez.com/gazuyi/gazuyi.html Amika= le Lenadi From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7824 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=fSrn0FiSg4HtxdVShzB-46p7qOA2MYkpyygV-GPCgU4uVYx8rxxItJM X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Saluto, Alexandre! Ka tu advere uzas "Vorteko" por korektigar tua Ido-text= i? Me preferas pensar, ke ne tote, nam esas sat multa anomalaji en tua arti= klo. Me maxim volunte "korektigos" NUR KELKA ek tua "krimini", ma kondicio= ne ke tu ne plus sendez tua texto aden nia forumi. Suficos ke tu ipsa o l'a= miko Rosto emendez nur lo necesa por la balda publikigo dil artiklo en la j= urnalo POSTA MUNDI. Se vi deziras lo. - atoma (plura-foye) -> atomala - ga= zo, gazi (plura-foye) -> gaso, gasi - rika (plura-foye) -> richa - sukero, = sukeroza (plura-foye) -> sukro, sukroza - "subis" employi -> ka "subisis" e= mployi? (Pri tua "kauzar" e "frakasar", konsultez Ido-vortaro!) Kurajo ed = adavane, Shandru! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@y= ahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo skribis: = Saluti a nia redaktero Rosto de Posta Mundi ed a la altra idoparolanti od = idokomprenanti. Yen mea mikra esayo filozofia por la revuo Posta Mundi, ja= korektita kun via helpo. Danko! Me korektis erori gramatikala od ortograf= iala, e me plulongigis kelka frazi por obtenar plus granda klareso. Me, do,= ne chanjis la mesajo. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo. ----= ------ Pri la energio atomala Ante komencar mea mikra esayo filozofiala= pri la energio atomala, mi devus citar klasika sarkasmo Angla che la kriti= kuro literaturala. Ula eminenta filozofo Britana skribis verko pri metafizi= ko (o pri psikologio) ed ula akra-humora blamanto dicis pri la verko da sua= kunpatriano: "Ica verko de filozofio enhavas aserti interesiva ed original= a, Desfortunoze, la aserti interesiva ne esas originala, e la aserti origin= ala ne esas interesiva.". E la blamanto esis justa... Yen, pri nia afero: = quale skribar ulo pri la energio atoma quo ne esus ja konocata trivialajo o= vera informo ciencoteknikala ma ja facile konsultebla altraloke, nek imbec= ileso ideologiala pro o kontre la energio atoma? Ya la qualeso, hike, desfa= cilesas... [...] From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7825 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=164060897; y=b3xoiJwj__p2JKwa1F_kdOnTI7byPVOBlCd8mrC-p4Aq1jU X-Yahoo-Profile: trigrupo ------------ABD3271143FC2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola, Partaka. Vorteko esas nula mirakloza softwaro* (programo por komput= oro) e falias freque. Existas bona Ido-vorti markizita kom mala, ed inverse= , che Vorteko. Vorteko esas nur helpilo kontre mea krimini linguala. Yes, = me parkorektis mea texto pri la energio atomala (e plura foyi) per Vorteko.= Me rikorektis mea esayo segun tua afabla indikuri ed olun me sendos (priv= ate) a tu ed a Rosto. Filozofionte freque per Ido (e ne nur en la jurnalo = Posta Mundi) me emendos mea Ido. Mine: plu mala Ido mealatere, neposible! = Ridanko, Partaka! Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasanovo Domingo. ----- Mesaj= o originala ----- Saluto, Alexandre! Ka tu advere uzas "Vorteko" por ko= rektigar tua Ido-texti? Me preferas pensar, ke ne tote, nam esas sat multa = anomalaji en tua artiklo. Me maxim volunte "korektigos" NUR KELKA ek tua "= krimini", ma kondicione ke tu ne plus sendez tua texto aden nia forumi. Suf= icos ke tu ipsa o l'amiko Rosto emendez nur lo necesa por la balda publikig= o dil artiklo en la jurnalo POSTA MUNDI. Se vi deziras lo. - atoma (plura= -foye) -> atomala - gazo, gazi (plura-foye) -> gaso, gasi - rika (plura-f= oye) -> richa - sukero, sukeroza (plura-foye) -> sukro, sukroza - "subis"= employi -> ka "subisis" employi? (Pri tua "kauzar" e "frakasar", konsulte= z Ido-vortaro!) Kurajo ed adavane, Shandru! P A R T A K A ------------ABD3271143FC2F Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Pri la energio atomala (texto korektita).

       Hola, Partaka.

       Vortek= o esas nula mirakloza softwaro* (programo por komputoro) e falias freque. E= xistas bona Ido-vorti markizita kom mala, ed inverse, che Vorteko.

       Vortek= o esas nur helpilo kontre mea krimini linguala. Yes, me parkorektis mea tex= to pri la energio atomala (e plura foyi) per Vorteko.

       Me rikorektis mea= esayo segun tua afabla indikuri ed olun me sendos (private) a tu ed a Rost= o.

      &= nbsp;Filozofionte freque per Ido (e ne nur en la jurnalo Posta Mundi) me em= endos mea Ido. Mine: plu mala Ido mealatere, neposible!

       Ridanko, Partaka!=

      &nb= sp;Amike, Alexandro Xaviero Kasanovo Domingo.

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=        ----- Mesajo originala -----


       Saluto, Alexandre!


       Ka tu advere uzas "Vorteko" por korek= tigar tua Ido-texti? Me preferas pensar, ke ne tote, nam esas sat multa ano= malaji en tua artiklo.

&n= bsp;      Me maxim volunte "korektigos" NUR KELKA ek tua "kr= imini", ma kondicione ke tu ne plus sendez tua texto aden nia forumi. Sufic= os ke tu ipsa o l'amiko Rosto emendez nur lo necesa por la balda publikigo = dil artiklo en la jurnalo POSTA MUNDI. Se vi deziras lo.


       - atoma (plura-foye) -> atomala

       = - gazo, gazi (plura-foye) -> gaso, gasi<

       - rika (plura-foye) -> rich= a

      &n= bsp;- sukero, sukeroza (plura-foye) -> sukro, sukroza

       - "subis" employ= i -> ka "subisis" employi?

       (Pri tua "kauzar" e "frakasar", konsultez I= do-vortaro!)


       Kurajo= ed adavane, Shandru!


=

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Me ja komputorigis aden un arkivo= en disko harda la tota verko *ILA PROFETO, tradukita de tu. Tua tradukuro= havas granda intereso filozofiala por Ido ed altra eurokloni, do me intenc= as sendar la arkivo (pos korektigor tipografe, ma ne texte, la 58 parti glu= tinata) aden listi de filozofio per helpoplanlingui. Se tu estimas ke opor= tas la depozo de la tota verko aden la fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) de la listi= posta_Mundi ed Ido Catala Occitan, me anke sendos la arkivo aden amba list= i. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo= @... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). ----- Mesajo originala ----- = *ILA PROFETO, da Khalil Jibran Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Ye plura yari= ante nun, me pokope tradukis aden Ido, che posta_Mundi, la tota verko titu= lizita *ILA PROFETO (La Profetulo), da Khalil Jibran. De mea tradukuro mem = konservesas mikra parto, che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), jentileso da Alex= andre. Nun, me volunte deziras invitar vi tradukar, aden plusa LIA-sistemi= , kurta fragmento di la starto-punto di ta verko, quan me riproduktos sube,= ma quan ca-kaze vi darfas tradukar sive de mea Ido-versiono, sive de irg a= ltra versiono, quan vi facile povas trovar irga-loke, mem en Internet. La = fragmento tradukenda korespondas al chapitro titulizita "LA NAVO-ARIVO", qu= an vi renkontros che l' komenco dil verko: ***** Dum ke il esis decensan= ta la kolino, il tristeskis e pensis en sua kordio: Quale me departos pace= e sen tristeso? No, me ne sucesos livar ica urbo, sen ke mea spirito rest= ez lacerata. Senfina esis la jorni di chagreno, quin me ya travivis interne= di olua muraro, ed esis senfina la nokti di soleso; e qua povas forigar su= ipsa de sua chagreno e soleso sen tristigar sua anmo? Esas nombrozega la = fragmenti di mea spirito en ica stradi, e nombrozega esas la filii di mea a= nhelo, qui marchas nuda ibe, ye la kolini; e quale' me povas forigar me ips= a de li, sen experiencar profunda angoro e doloro? Esas ne nura vesto, to = quon me renuncas hodie, ma anke pelo, quan me ipsa ektiras per mea propra m= anui. Esas anke ne nura pensajo, to quo restas ye mea dorso, ma kordio dol= cigita per hungro e dursto. Tamen, me ne darfas ajornar por plusa tempo me= a departo. La maro, qua postulas omno por su, advokas me, e me devas embark= ar. Nam restadar hike, mem se la hori brulas en la nokto, equivalas glacie= skar, kristaleskar e restar kaptita en mulduro. Volunte me kunportus omno = quo esas hike, ma quale agar? La voco ne povas sustenar la lango e la labi= i, qui alizis ol. Ol mustas, sole, durar serchar la etero. Ya sola e sen s= ua nesto, l'aglo flugos defiante l' suno. ***** Se posibla, voluntez tr= adukar ta bela texto aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Esperanto klasika, Interli= ngua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Latino sine Flexione, = ed irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas, mem se li esas ne tam ko= nocata kam le mencionita. Se vi advere kapablesas e prontesas..., Adavane= , amiki! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * ------------78B612C197421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: *ILA PROFETO, da Khalil Jibran

       Estima Partaka (ed altra idoparolanti).

       = Me ja komputorigis aden un arkivo en disko harda la tota verko *ILA PROFETO= , tradukita de tu.

 =      Tua tradukuro havas granda intereso filozofiala por Id= o ed altra eurokloni, do me intencas sendar la arkivo (pos korektigor tipog= rafe, ma ne texte, la 58 parti glutinata) aden listi de filozofio per helpo= planlingui.

   =    Se tu estimas ke oportas la depozo de la tota verko aden la f= ako "Archivos" (Arkivi) de la listi posta_Mundi ed Ido Catala Occitan, me a= nke sendos la arkivo aden amba listi.

       Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo= Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto e= s).


       ----- Mesajo or= iginala -----


<= /p>

       *ILA = PROFETO, da Khalil Jibran 


    =    Estimata posta_Mundi-ani:

       Ye plura yari ante nun, me pokope = tradukis aden Ido, che posta_Mundi, la tota verko titulizita *ILA PROFETO (= La Profetulo), da Khalil Jibran. De mea tradukuro mem konservesas mikra par= to, che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), jentileso da Alexandre.

       Nun, me volu= nte deziras invitar vi tradukar, aden plusa LIA-sistemi, kurta fragmento di= la starto-punto di ta verko, quan me riproduktos sube, ma quan ca-kaze vi = darfas tradukar sive de mea Ido-versiono, sive de irg altra versiono, quan = vi facile povas trovar irga-loke, mem en Internet.

       La fragmento tradukend= a korespondas al chapitro titulizita "LA NAVO-ARIVO", quan vi renkontros ch= e l' komenco dil verko:

      &= nbsp;*****

       D= um ke il esis decensanta la kolino, il tristeskis e pensis en sua kordio:

       Quale me depa= rtos pace e sen tristeso?

   =    No, me ne sucesos livar ica urbo, sen ke mea spirito restez l= acerata. Senfina esis la jorni di chagreno, quin me ya travivis interne di = olua muraro, ed esis senfina la nokti di soleso; e qua povas forigar su ips= a de sua chagreno e soleso sen tristigar sua anmo?

       Esas nombrozega la fragmenti di mea = spirito en ica stradi, e nombrozega esas la filii di mea anhelo, qui marcha= s nuda ibe, ye la kolini; e quale' me povas forigar me ipsa de li, sen expe= riencar profunda angoro e doloro?

 = ;      Esas ne nura vesto, to quon me renuncas hodie, ma ank= e pelo, quan me ipsa ektiras per mea propra manui.

       Esas anke ne nura pensajo, to quo re= stas ye mea dorso, ma kordio dolcigita per hungro e dursto.

<= span class=3Drvts24>        Tamen, me ne darfas ajornar= por plusa tempo mea departo. La maro, qua postulas omno por su, advokas me= , e me devas embarkar.

    &n= bsp;  Nam restadar hike, mem se la hori brulas en la nokto, equivalas = glacieskar, kristaleskar e restar kaptita en mulduro.

       Volunte me kunportus omno quo esa= s hike, ma quale agar?

    &n= bsp;  La voco ne povas sustenar la lango e la labii, qui alizis ol. Ol= mustas, sole, durar serchar la etero.

=        Ya sola e sen sua nesto, l'aglo flugos defiante = l' suno.


       *****


       Se = posibla, voluntez tradukar ta bela texto aden altra LIA-sistemi qual Espera= nto klasika, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, La= tino sine Flexione, ed irg altra neutra helpo-lingui,

quin vi konocas, mem se li esas ne tam konocata kam le mencio= nita.

       Se vi = advere kapablesas e prontesas...,

 = ;      Adavane, amiki!

       * * * * *= * * *

       p a r= t a k a

       * *= * * * * * *


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Unesme, voluntez sendar a me private tua laboruro po= r ke me povez vidar quon exakte tu facis. E pose, se omno esas en ordino, f= orsan tu ipsa povos kargar tua kompleta kompiluro dil verko *ILA PROFETO, i= .a., en la fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) dil forumi posta_Mundi ed IdoCatalaOc= citan. Danko e predanko pri tua laboro relatanta ica temo. P A R T A K A= * * * * * * * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http://g= roups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - ________________________________ = De: Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo Che: postamundi <= posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com>; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com Dato: Sundie= , la 27ma di marto 2011, 23:25 kl. Pri: Re: *ILA PROFETO, da Khalil Jibran = Estima Partaka (ed altra idoparolanti). Me ja komputorigis aden = un arkivo en disko harda la tota verko *ILA PROFETO, tradukita de tu. 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Joyoze me brodkastas per Ido Sonoras mea maxim recenta= Idala Podkasto, la numero 41, ube me naracas altra (10ma) chapitro di la= fiktivajo Habemus LIA da nia amiko Partaka, quan me gratulas pro la recen= ta enretigo e publikigo di ilua verko en PDF formato, materialo utila, lek= tinda ed amuziva por la idista publiko. Yen la retadreso che Ido Sonora= ! http://www.ipernity.com/blog/64880/317076 Yen la deskargoligilo: http:= //www.box.net/shared/dcuy6ove9a Durado: 7 minuti 15 sekundi. Til la rivid= o! Jose Cossio -- From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7834 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Me jus sendis private mea laboruro a tu. Amike, Aleshandr= o Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo = arobo yahoo punto es). ----- Mesajo originala ----- Bon jorno, Alexandr= e! Unesme, voluntez sendar a me private tua laboruro por ke me povez vida= r quon exakte tu facis. E pose, se omno esas en ordino, forsan tu ipsa povo= s kargar tua kompleta kompiluro dil verko *ILA PROFETO, i.a., en la fako "= Archivos" (Arkivi) dil forumi posta_Mundi ed IdoCatalaOccitan. Danko e pre= danko pri tua laboro relatanta ica temo. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * ------------97136B23BC286DA Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: *ILA PROFETO, da Khalil Jibran

       Hola, Partaka.

       Me jus sendis= private mea laboruro a tu.

       Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, = posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo ya= hoo punto es).


 = ;      ----- Mesajo originala -----


&n= bsp;      Bon jorno, Alexandre!

=

=        Unesme, voluntez sendar a me private tua laboru= ro por ke me povez vidar quon exakte tu facis. E pose, se omno esas en ordi= no, forsan tu ipsa povos kargar tua kompleta kompiluro dil verko *ILA PROFE= TO, i.a., 

en la fako= "Archivos" (Arkivi) dil forumi posta_Mundi ed IdoCatalaOccitan.

=

       Danko e = predanko pri tua laboro relatanta ica temo.

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    &nb= sp;  Hola ad omna idoparolanti ed idisti.

=        Me jus kargis la tradukuro = kompleta de la verko *ILA PROFETO, originale verkita da Khalil Jibran, maes= trale tradukita da Partaka ed aranjita tipografe da me, che la fako "Archiv= os" (Arkivi) de ica forumo. Nomo de la arkivo: Ila Profeto.txt (Tradukuro k= ompleta da Partaka).

 = ;      Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto el= ektronika = trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto = es).


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Dokumento: /pos= ta_mundi_2.pdf Responsanto: r0st0 Deskrip= turo: #2, mart, 2011, del jurnal "POSTA MUNDI" Por lektar e juar tal doku= mento, yen la e-adreso: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/files= /posta_mundi_2.pdf Danko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * = * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7849 Return-Path: X-Sender: valodnieks@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=341519187; y=dx4gT-grlYvJrwh_l5LMWoyP3JStPYiteH9R4SQEUwNj4miANA X-Yahoo-Profile: valodnieks Car amicos del lingues international! Yo joya me presentar vos li triesim = numer=F3 del jurnale IE MUNDE in li lingue Occidental-Interlingue. It es pu= blicat gratuitmen in li internet in li formate PDF. Yo mettet it ci in li = section "Archivos". Si hay problemas leer it o si Vu ne es un membre de ti = gruppe ples scrir a me un e-posta a valodnieks@... Talmen yo posse ini= viar it directmen a Vu! Yo vell joyar me anc pro comentaries, opiniones e = propositiones pri IE MUNDE. Yo mersia Senior Gabriel Svoboda pro su articu= l pri li futur del munde. Yo anc mersia Ian Nils e Olivier Simon e li senio= res Bedrich Plavec e Erich Werner del Interlingue-Union, qui corectet li te= xtus del numer=F3 3. Si hay ancor errores in li textus, ergo tis es certmen= in mi personal responsibilit=E1. 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Yen ke kargesis nov arkivo che l' fako "Archivos" (Arkivi) di post= a_Mundi. Arkivo: /Ila Profeto.txt Responsanto: trigrupo Deskripturo: Tradukuro kompleta da Partaka Voluntez acesar ol per en= irar la sequanta e-adreso: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/fi= les/Ila%20Profeto.txt Til balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7851 Return-Path: X-Sender: hispanahirundo@... 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Me quik deskargos ol! Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifbergen VO= YAJEZ TRA LA MONDO PER IDO-DICIONARII: - Plur-linguala dicionarii 1ma tomo = Germana/Angla/Franca/Hispana/Italiana/Rusa 12,69 euro 2ma tomo Ido-Portugal= ana/Nederlandana/Finlandana/Ukrainiana/Esperanto/Koreana 8,70 euro 3ma tom= o Ido-Poloniana/Rumaniana/Japoniana 10,74 euro ***** REKOMENDATA: PEKUNIO S= EN INTERESTI ED INFLACIONO (M. KENNEDY): 8,75 EURO CITAJI, di famozi di la = mondo: 7,-- -- http://www.angelfire.com/id/Avance/TiaListo1.html -----Oo= rspronkelijk bericht----- Van: idolisto@yahoogroups.com namens Partaka Verz= onden: wo 23-3-2011 3:00 Aan: idocatalaoccitan@yahoogroups.com; idolisto@ya= hoogroups.com; idoespanyol@yahoogroups.com; ido-angla@yahoogroups.com; id= o-portugues@yahoogroups.com; ido-italiano@yahoogroups.com; francidol@group= esyahoo.ca; posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: [idolisto] [NOVAJI] Enre= tigesis la verko "Habemus LIA" Estimata samideani ed amiki en la tota mond= o: Per ica mesajo, me maxim volunte deziras informar vi omna, ke me fine p= ovas prizentar a vi mea original Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokument= o, qua, segun semblo, esas ja disponebla, lektebla e juebla, danke l'amiko = Frank Kasper, qua enretigis ol: http://www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.p= df Me deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna, e sendas a vi mea ma= xim kordial ed amikal saluto del urbo Barcelona. P A R T A K A * * * * * = * * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.co= m/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - --0-178374171-1301609725=:84523 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Mesajo da Hans Stuifbergen, che Idolisto)

 
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Tre bona novajo, Danko Partaka (e Fran= k)! Me quik deskargos ol!

Saluti amikala,

Hans Stuifberge= n

VOYAJEZ TRA LA MONDO PER IDO-DICIONARII:
- Plur-linguala dic= ionarii
1ma tomo Germana/Angla/Franca/Hispana/Italiana/Rusa 12,69 euro<= br> 2ma tomo Ido-Portugalana/Nederlandana/Finlandana/Ukrainiana/Esperanto/K= oreana 8,70 euro
3ma tomo Ido-Poloniana/Rumaniana/Japoniana 10,74 euro<= br> *****
REKOMENDATA:
PEKUNIO SEN INTERESTI ED INFLACIONO (M. KENN= EDY): 8,75 EURO
CITAJI, di famozi di la mondo: 7,--
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http://www.angelfire.com/id/Avance/TiaListo1.html
<= br>

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: idolisto@yahoogroup= s.com namens Partaka
Verzonden: wo 23-3-2011 3:00
Aan: idocatalaocc= itan@yahoogroups.com; idolisto@yahoogroups.com; idoespanyol@yahoogroups.com= ; ido-angla@yahoogroups.com; ido-portugues@yahoogroups.com; ido-italiano@ya= hoogroups.com; francidol@...; posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com
O= nderwerp: [idolisto] [NOVAJI] Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA"

E= stimata samideani ed amiki en la tota mondo:

Per ica mesajo, me ma= xim volunte deziras informar
vi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi m= ea original
Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento,
qua, segun= semblo, esas ja disponebla, lektebla
e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kas= per, qua enretigis ol:

http://www.literaturo.ido= .li/Habemus_LIA.pdf

Me deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a = vi omna,
e sendas a vi mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto
del urbo = Barcelona.


P A R T A K A
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Es possibile illo signiffica "verso le Nord" "towards the= North" "that-a-way (indicating the North)"? _________________________= _______ From: Osmund Aukland To: "posta_Mundi@yahoogrou= ps.com" Sent: Tue, 15 March, 2011 19:29:06 Su= bject: Re: [posta_Mundi] RE: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi Ca= r Partaka! Pardona me que io non completemente comprende lo que tu scribe r= e Norvegia e Norway. Como tu sape le prime parola es interlingua e le secu= nde es anglese. In Norvegia nos ha duo versiones de nostre lingua, le nyno= rsk e le bokm=C3=A5l, con su duo manieras a nominar nostre pais: Noreg e N= orge. Io crede que istos son derivate de Nord Rike, que in Germanic voleva= esser Nort Reich, i.e. le Regno del Nord, in contrasto de Danmark in le s= ud. Ambes le Norwegen e Norway indica un via al nord, ma io crede que isto= es un mal interpretation del nomine original. Probabilemente lo que io sc= ribe hic non es un responsa actual de tu message, ma il es un essayo pro r= esponder. Con salutes amical! Osmund Sendt fra min iPad Den 15. mars 2011= kl. 02:54 skrev "qualevistandas" : >Tik-tak,= Alexandre! > >Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" esas partakalajo; >ol esas mea humorajo= por tradukar "Norway", >tal qual ol dicesas Angla-lingue... > >Kande ulu k= elke reprimendesas en l'Angla >pro agar poke saje, on dicas a lu ulo simile= santa >"Norway", lando-nomo quan me uzas jokatre en >tal kazi, e quan hike= me tradukis aden "Norvegia!" > >Do, quoniam cafoye tu trouzis e misuzis la= voyo... > >+ Norway, Shandru! Norway! :-) > >P A R T A K A >* * * * * * * = * * > >--- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, >Alexandre Xavier Casanova Dom= ingo skribis: > >Hola, Partaka. > >Quo esas, hike, "Norvegia= "? > >Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanova Domingo, posto elektronika trigru= po@... >(trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es). > >----- mesajo originala ----- >= > >Hola, Alexandre! > >Me ipsa jus eliminabas 7 ek tua 9 recenta >dokument= i, che nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi), >sive pro ke li esis ne-valida por pos= ta_Mundi, >sive pro ke li esis ecesiva e tote ne-oportuna. > >Voluntez kons= tatar tu ipsa quo restis, adminime >provizore, en nia arkivo: tua dokumento= pri Intal, >e plusa dokumento, ma ca-kaze pri (ed en) Ikuso. > >Se tu dezi= ras kargar ulo altra en la fako "Archivos" >(Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, oporto= s ke tu sendez a me, >private, la konkreta dokumento, e ke me povez durar >= fidar a tu ed a tua bona intenco. > >Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia! > >P A = R T A K A >* * * * * * * * * > > --0-1201029370-1301683503=:95928 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Norwegen, Norway.
Es possibile illo signiffica "verso = le Nord" "towards the North" "that-a-way (indicating the North)"?
=


From: Osmund Aukland &l= t;aukland@...>
To:= "posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com"
<= b>Sent: Tue, 15 March, 2011 1= 9:29:06
Subject: Re: [p= osta_Mundi] RE: Kargesis nova dokumento en posta_Mundi

 
=

Car Partaka!
Pardona me que io non completem= ente comprende lo que tu scribe re Norvegia e Norway. Como tu sape le prime= parola es interlingua e le secunde es anglese. In Norvegia nos ha duo vers= iones de nostre lingua, le nynorsk e le bokm=C3=A5l, con su duo manieras a = nominar nostre pais: Noreg e Norge. Io crede que istos son derivate de Nord= Rike, que in Germanic voleva esser Nort Reich, i.e. le Regno del Nord, in = contrasto de Danmark in le sud. Ambes le Norwegen e Norway indica un via al= nord, ma io crede que isto es un mal interpretation del nomine original.
Probabilemente lo que io scribe hic non es un responsa actual de t= u message, ma il es un essayo pro responder.
Con salutes amical!<= /div>
Osmund

Sendt fra min iPad

Den 15. mars 2011 = kl. 02:54 skrev "qualevistandas" <qualevistandas@...>:

 

Tik-tak, Alexandre!

Ca-kaze, "Norvegia!" = esas partakalajo;
ol esas mea humorajo por tradukar "Norway",
tal q= ual ol dicesas Angla-lingue...

Kande ulu kelke reprimendesas en l'= Angla
pro agar poke saje, on dicas a lu ulo similesanta
"Norway", l= ando-nomo quan me uzas jokatre en
tal kazi, e quan hike me tradukis ad= en "Norvegia!"

Do, quoniam cafoye tu trouzis e misuzis la voyo...<= br>
+ Norway, Shandru! Norway! :-)

P A R T A K A
* * * * = * * * * *

--- En posta_M= undi@yahoogroups.com,
Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo skribis:

Hola, Partaka.

Quo esas, hike, "Norve= gia"?

Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanova Domingo, posto elektroni= ka trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es).

----- mesajo ori= ginala -----


Hola, Alexandre!

Me ipsa jus elimina= bas 7 ek tua 9 recenta
dokumenti, che nia fako "Archivos" (Arkivi),
= sive pro ke li esis ne-valida por posta_Mundi,
sive pro ke li esis ece= siva e tote ne-oportuna.

Voluntez konstatar tu ipsa quo restis, a= dminime
provizore, en nia arkivo: tua dokumento pri Intal,
e plusa = dokumento, ma ca-kaze pri (ed en) Ikuso.

Se tu deziras kargar ulo= altra en la fako "Archivos"
(Arkivi) di posta_Mundi, oportos ke tu sen= dez a me,
private, la konkreta dokumento, e ke me povez durar
fidar= a tu ed a tua bona intenco.

Norvegia, Shandru! Norvegia!
=
P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * *

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Esas granda ve= ro ke la verko bona sempre formacesas ek inspirata individuo, ma ita inspir= ado sempre divenas da la maxim plusolidigata kulturo populala. Che la kultu= ro, onu devas kontinue sintezar la individuismo e la komunismo, du ideologi= i semble nekonciliebla. Ma me esas komunisto ed radikala individuisto. Qua= le ni konkretez tala konsideraji filozofiala por nia antologio? Facile. Me= ne deziras esar nek esor privata proprietero de la listo "Kulturafruto", e= me aceptas donar la kategorio de listoproprietero ad omna membro quo dezir= us tala kategorio. La kriterio de la antologio, do, esas e ne esas mea. Qu= ale solvesas la kontredicajo? Anke facile. Se irgu deziras sendar verko su= a (o da altru) aden la listo "Kulturafruto", kom arkivo o kom mesajo da tex= to, ed olu konsideras ke tala verko per irga helpoplanlinguo (originalajo, = ne tradukuro!) konservas sua intereso tradukota aden lingui teritoria e le= ktota da homi nule interesita che la helpoplanlingui, olu darfas sendar la = verko o verki sen mea permiso. Mea aplikajo de la kriterio ne esas do mea p= ersonala kontrolajo de la listo, ma nur inspireso generala por omna membri.= E me ne darfas efacar un verko sendota pro ke me estimas ke ita verko hava= s mediokreso* (miboneso) literaturala. Me, do, esperas via kontribuaji ant= ologiala aden la listo "Kulturafruto", e ne nur per eurokloni, ma anke per = helpoplanlingui plu "obskura" kom Ro, Volap=C3=BCk, Esata, Kotava, Usik, ed= cetere. Me lektos omna verki per irga helpoplanlinguo. Me repetas la adre= so internetala de la listo: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kulturafruto/.= Danko ed adavane a la antologieri. Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo D= omingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es)= . ----- Mesajo originala ----- Estimat Alexandre: Danko pro tua kompli= menti pri mea verko, "Habemus LIA", recente enretigita kom pdf-o. Ma..., e= ska tu advere parlektis tante rapide la versiono kompleta e definitiva, qua= jus enretigesis, od eska tu lektis la tota romano, ma nur pazope, tal qual= me sendis ol aden nia forumi dum tri yari? (Me kalkulis 4 o 5 hori por par= lektar Habemus LIA) Nu, voluntez durar informar ni pri tua antologio! Me c= ertesas ke, adminime en Esperanto klasika ed en Ido, tu trovos plura verki = literatural original, qui meritos tua atenco ed aprobo. Danko ed adavane, = amiko! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * http://groups.yahoo.com/grou= p/posta_Mundi - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - ------------1A7412410FB3818 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Komencas la antologio.

       = ;Saluto, Partaka.

  =      Me lektis nur la provizora versiono pazope, tale quale = tu sendis olu aden nia forumi dum tri yari. Ma, nature, me preferas lektar = la versiono kompleta e definitiva. Altralatere me, lektero fanatika o muso = de biblioteko, sempre preferar lektar la verko kompleta (nultempe un rezumo= !) delore la komenco til la fino. Por ni, musi devoranta multa libri dum un= horo, la problemo tradicione esis la (manko de) mono, ma nun kun interneto= ... la situeso chanjis, felice.

       Do me parlektos e riparlektos kun plezuro= tua romano kompleta.

&nb= sp;      Nun mi devus parolar pri mea antologio... ne, nia! = Efektive, la kulturo autentika, la kulturo solida, nulmaniere esas afero pe= rsonista. Nek la beleso nek la vereso esas "proprieto privata". Esas granda= vero ke la verko bona sempre formacesas ek inspirata individuo, ma ita ins= pirado sempre divenas da la maxim plusolidigata kulturo populala. Che la ku= lturo, onu devas kontinue sintezar la individuismo e la komunismo, du ideol= ogii semble nekonciliebla. Ma me esas komunisto ed radikala individuisto.

       = ;Quale ni konkretez tala konsideraji filozofiala por nia antologio? Facile.=

      &nb= sp;Me ne deziras esar nek esor privata proprietero de la listo "Kulturafrut= o", e me aceptas donar la kategorio de listoproprietero ad omna membro quo = dezirus tala kategorio.

&= nbsp;      La kriterio de la antologio, do, esas e ne esas m= ea. Quale solvesas la kontredicajo? Anke facile.

       Se irgu deziras sendar v= erko sua (o da altru) aden la listo "Kulturafruto", kom arkivo o kom mesajo= da texto, ed olu konsideras ke tala verko per irga helpoplanlinguo (origin= alajo, ne tradukuro!) 

konservas sua intereso tradukota aden lingui teritoria e lektota da homi = nule interesita che la helpoplanlingui, olu darfas sendar la verko o verki = sen mea permiso. Mea aplikajo de la kriterio ne esas do mea personala kontr= olajo de la listo, ma nur inspireso generala por omna membri. E me ne darfa= s efacar un verko sendota pro ke me estimas ke ita verko havas mediokreso* = (miboneso) literaturala.

=        Me, do, esperas via kontribuaji antologiala aden= la listo "Kulturafruto", e ne nur per eurokloni, ma anke per helpoplanling= ui plu "obskura" kom Ro, Volap=C3=BCk, Esata, Kotava, Usik, ed cetere. Me l= ektos omna verki per irga helpoplanlinguo.

       Me repetas la adreso interneta= la de la listo: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/kulturafruto/.=

       = Danko ed adavane a la antologieri.

       Amike, Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo D= omingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigrupo arobo yahoo punto es)= .


       ----- Mesajo orig= inala -----


       Estimat= Alexandre:

   =    Danko pro tua komplimenti pri mea verko, "Habemus LIA", recen= te enretigita kom pdf-o.

=        Ma..., eska tu advere parlektis tante rapide la = versiono kompleta e definitiva, qua jus enretigesis, od eska tu lektis la t= ota romano, ma nur pazope, tal qual me sendis ol aden nia forumi dum tri ya= ri?

(Me kalkulis 4 o 5 hor= i por parlektar Habemus LIA)

       Nu, voluntez durar informar ni pri tua antol= ogio! Me certesas ke, adminime en Esperanto klasika ed en Ido, tu trovos pl= ura verki literatural original, qui meritos tua atenco ed aprobo.

       Danko e= d adavane, amiko!



       P A R T A K A

       * * * = * * * * * * 

 

       = ;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -=  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -


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Sen mei voyajade e sen le= printempe, me perdabere ti ci jorneske. Me maxim volunte invitas nia s= amforumani tradukar ta tri "haiku"-i aden plusa LIA-sistemi qual Esperanto = klasika, Occidental/Interlingue, Interlingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Neo, G= losa, LFN, od irg altra helpo-lingui, mem se mine konocata. Adavane! = * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yaho= ogroups.com, "hispanahirundo" skribis: Kar amiki, p= or la somerala kurso pri haiku ye mea provinco, me dezirus havar la traduk= aji en la plu nombroza lingui. Yen la haiku-i: Kande onu ne povas manja= r, la fresheso dil aquo. Sur ica voyo nula homo promenas. Autunal vesper= o. Sen mea voyajado e sen la printempo me perdabus ca jornesko. Me pr= edankas omni pro via helpo e via esforci. Amikale e predankema, Antonio.= From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7872 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=9tja-iQFMlHZm-_9PcQqt5Sqjczmf5tIW74rmStlq_MMrJOKgfXHcjQ0gC1N X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Alexandre, ta "kulturafruto" es interesanta idea. Ma forsan to esud plu opo= rtuna, if it vud realizat in alkel Wikia, o alko simila? Por ke esud plu fa= cila atingo al tekstes, e facila posibleso inkargar su tekstes. Sembla, ke = arkives in yahu-grup's es un sistema tro klozat por tal afere. "Glasnost" n= o es suficianta :) Che tei "kulturofruto" mi videv "Vokabulario di Sintezo= ". Semble, it es un probo miksar Esperanto e Ido? Tal kazes es interesanta = por enionilogia. Ki save alko pri ta Sintezo? Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@= yahoogroups.com, Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo escribi= =F3: > > Saluto, Partaka. > Me lektis nur la provizora versiono pazope, t= ale quale tu sendis olu aden nia forumi dum tri yari. Ma, nature, me prefer= as lektar la versiono kompleta e definitiva. Altralatere me, lektero fanati= ka o muso de biblioteko, sempre preferar lektar la verko kompleta (nultempe= un rezumo!) delore la komenco til la fino. Por ni, musi devoranta multa li= bri dum un horo, la problemo tradicione esis la (manko de) mono, ma nun kun= interneto... la situeso chanjis, felice. > Do me parlektos e riparlektos = kun plezuro tua romano kompleta. > Nun mi devus parolar pri mea antologio.= .. ne, nia! Efektive, la kulturo autentika, la kulturo solida, nulmaniere e= sas afero personista. Nek la beleso nek la vereso esas "proprieto privata".= Esas granda vero ke la verko bona sempre formacesas ek inspirata individuo= , ma ita inspirado sempre divenas da la maxim plusolidigata kulturo populal= a. Che la kulturo, onu devas kontinue sintezar la individuismo e la komunis= mo, du ideologii semble nekonciliebla. Ma me esas komunisto ed radikala ind= ividuisto. > Quale ni konkretez tala konsideraji filozofiala por nia antol= ogio? Facile. > Me ne deziras esar nek esor privata proprietero de la list= o "Kulturafruto", e me aceptas donar la kategorio de listoproprietero ad om= na membro quo dezirus tala kategorio. > La kriterio de la antologio, do, e= sas e ne esas mea. Quale solvesas la kontredicajo? Anke facile. > Se irgu = deziras sendar verko sua (o da altru) aden la listo "Kulturafruto", kom ark= ivo o kom mesajo da texto, ed olu konsideras ke tala verko per irga helpopl= anlinguo (originalajo, ne tradukuro!) > konservas sua intereso tradukota a= den lingui teritoria e lektota da homi nule interesita che la helpoplanling= ui, olu darfas sendar la verko o verki sen mea permiso. Mea aplikajo de la = kriterio ne esas do mea personala kontrolajo de la listo, ma nur inspireso = generala por omna membri. E me ne darfas efacar un verko sendota pro ke me = estimas ke ita verko havas mediokreso* (miboneso) literaturala. > Me, do, = esperas via kontribuaji antologiala aden la listo "Kulturafruto", e ne nur = per eurokloni, ma anke per helpoplanlingui plu "obskura" kom Ro, Volap=FCk,= Esata, Kotava, Usik, ed cetere. Me lektos omna verki per irga helpoplanlin= guo. > Me repetas la adreso internetala de la listo: http://es.groups.yaho= o.com/group/kulturafruto/. > Danko ed adavane a la antologieri. > Amike, = Aleshandro Shaviero Kasanovo Domingo, posto elektronika trigrupo@... (trigr= upo arobo yahoo punto es). > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7873 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Mi trovav, ube la lingua Sintezo es, o esev: http://es.groups.yahoo.co= m/group/sintezo/ Miksure eks Esperanto, Ido e Interlingua! Yaro 2006. Iste= es astonanta! Mi nun studiara li tema, forsan esud bona skribar pri iste i= n POSTA MUNDI #3. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7874 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71049 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2011 07:33:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2011 07:33:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2011 07:33:13 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 07:33:13 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 07:33:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 07:33:11 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] Ka "Tigran"? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=PuCZcPJ8k9V1DODLmkyI26ivS79AgQfoGtWGig2isiHYvVmxPsjYM7B9MP1l X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Li nome Tigran versimile es plu konosat in Rusia kam in Hispania, pro to fo= rsan es plu oportuna por me, kom un rusiano, responder, nam es facile trova= r li informacione pri li tema in ruslingui fontes. Nu, faktim, un hom kun = tal nome maksim versimile apartena al popule Armen. Mi personale save nul h= om kun tal nome. Tamen li maksim proksima mental asociuro - li nome de un r= usian rejisore de filmes, Tigran Keosayan. Ta nome frequente sona che radio= e TV. Mi ipsa tamen memora nul filmes, quel il facev, e pos regardar lei s= itue, mi videskav, ke mi vere no spektav alko de lei filmes. Li nome, segun= un fonte, es de greki deveno e signifika "havent inflamabla temperamente",= segun altri fonte it es de nekonosat deveno armeni. In li ruslingui libre= kun priskribaciones de temperamentes de nomes es skribat, ke Tigranes lor = su puereso apecia interogar multe, e adoltes frequente no save, quo respond= er a lesi kuestiones. Tigran tre ama su matre, e lei marita versimile es si= mila a lei matre. Li temperamente es ekstraverta. Il es toleranta, ma no es= rekomendebla trouzar lei toleranteso. Anke mi videskav un informacione, ke= in Francia 270'000 armenes habita, ergo tei Tigran tre versimile es de Fra= ncia. Li prim pajine de Guglo dona sekuanta Tigranes: Tigran Keosayan; Tig= ran Hudaverdyan; Tigran Sarkisyan; Tigran Karlenovich Arutyunyan. -yan es = li kustumal finale de armeni familian nomes. Rosto. --- En posta_Mund= i@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Salut, kom= pans! Preyer, me konose viro > stranjer, keli nome me nul-temp audabe: > Ti= gran. Me no save u ti hom naskabe, > ma, pro lui nom, acent ed aspekte, me= > kuik baptab ilu: Tigran Khalil Tigran :-) > Ka vus konose ul Tigran en c= erten land? > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7875 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64555 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2011 12:05:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2011 12:05:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2011 12:05:05 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 12:05:05 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 12:05:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:05:03 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Lingua Sintezo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=AziB1qvQ26BlTqLrUNYSi0K7ohU_ps6waH21hiB1tM_8MwFReCYkgEE X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Hola, Rosto! Me bone memoras la kurta periodo, kande l' projeto Sintezo es= is funcionanta. E me anke memoras certena pria komento da Goncalo Neves, p= ublikigita ula-loke: "Probar mixar Esperanto, Ido ed Interlingua es quale p= robar mixar aqua kun oleo." Irga-kaze, on sempre povas irga-loke lernar u= lo interesanta, ka ne? + Til balda=F9, amico! :-) P A R T A K A * * * * = * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribis: Ho! Mi trovav, ube la lingua Sintezo es, o esev: http= ://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/sintezo/ Miksure eks Esperanto, Ido e Interl= ingua! Yaro 2006. Iste es astonanta! Mi nun studiara li tema, forsan esud b= ona skribar pri iste in POSTA MUNDI #3. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7876 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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To: posta_mundi Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:25:04 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2011 12:25:05.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF6E1600:01CBF130] From: James Chandler Subject: Aceso a PDF-revui X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=OgrAadkeabL1tEH7tDoRcc6QiONzj-BxNj82yjHIMYY X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kara samforumani, Me prizas la recente editita revui, IE Munde e POSTA= MUNDI, do me opinionas ke li devas esar lektebla da omna interesati, ne nu= r da membri di ca grupo. Ultre kargar sua revui al arkivi di posta_Mundi, = me pregas la editeri di amba revui publikigar oli anke reguloze e samtempe = che reto-situo acesebla da interesati qui ne adheras ica grupo, e tale ne p= ovas acesar l'arkivi. Predanko. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7877 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=s5WM64ufGjb5zSL_1blHo954ekjQOb7fO27CV4twKOQ X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kara Partaka, Me volunte, quale antee, tradukos ica "haiku"-i aden Nov= ial, ma pro la simileso inter Ido e Novial, me timas ke me povos nur litera= le a tre automate tradukar la bela poemeti. Nam me nule esas poeto, kontre= ke altri (exemple vu) tendencas tradukar libere tala texteti, kreive produ= ktante ulo nova. Se, tamen, literala e repetiva tradukuri esas aceptebla = e mem dezirinda, me volunte provizos oli. Kordiale = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7878 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36419 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2011 12:32:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2011 12:32:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2011 12:32:41 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 12:32:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 12:32:41 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:32:41 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [MM] Ka "Tigran"? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=G8nz4gLEV4tX31lsH-U1FJIrABIiXkN3wRLOe8cRyffd8yyCWBCw6SY X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Ho, ya, kar kompan! Finei, ank me konkluzabab, ke max probablei nosi amiko = Tigran es armen, pos ke me saveskab ke, che Armenia, existab rejo Tigran II= le Grand, e ke nom Tigran semble relate max apartei ti land en Kaukazia: A= rmenia. Me danke tui mesaj ed interes. Plen danke, Rostu! (Tigran Partakasy= an) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Li nome Tigran versimile es plu konosat in Rusia kam in Hispani= a, pro to forsan es plu oportuna por me, kom un rusiano, responder, nam es = facile trovar li informacione pri li tema in ruslingui fontes. Nu, faktim= , un hom kun tal nome maksim versimile apartena al popule Armen. Mi person= ale save nul hom kun tal nome. Tamen li maksim proksima mental asociuro - l= i nome de un rusian rejisore de filmes, Tigran Keosayan. Ta nome frequente = sona che radio e TV. Mi ipsa tamen memora nul filmes, quel il facev, e pos = regardar lei situe, mi videskav, ke mi vere no spektav alko de lei filmes. = Li nome, segun un fonte, es de greki deveno e signifika "havent inflamabla= temperamente", segun altri fonte it es de nekonosat deveno armeni. In li= ruslingui libre kun priskribaciones de temperamentes de nomes es skribat, = ke Tigranes lor su puereso apecia interogar multe, e adoltes frequente no s= ave, quo responder a lesi kuestiones. Tigran tre ama su matre, e lei marita= versimile es simila a lei matre. Li temperamente es ekstraverta. Il es tol= eranta, ma no es rekomendebla trouzar lei toleranteso. Anke mi videskav un= informacione, ke in Francia 270'000 armenes habita, ergo tei Tigran tre ve= rsimile es de Francia. Li prim pajine de Guglo dona sekuanta Tigranes: T= igran Keosayan; Tigran Hudaverdyan; Tigran Sarkisyan; Tigran Karlenovich Ar= utyunyan. -yan es li kustumal finale de armeni familian nomes. Rosto. = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escr= ibi=F3: Salut, kompans! Preyer, me konose viro stranjer, keli nome me nul-= temp audabe: Tigran. Me no save u ti hom naskabe, ma, pro lui nom, acent e= d aspekte, me kuik baptab ilu: Tigran Khalil Tigran :-) Ka vus konose ul Ti= gran en certen land? (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7879 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Ibe, vi ya povos juar, i.a., la splendideso di= l plura novaji publikigita pasinta-marte: http://www.ido.li/index.php Ido= vivez! Vivez Ido! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * [p_M] http://groups= .yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7880 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42172 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2011 14:09:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2011 14:09:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc2-s10.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.85) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2011 14:09:02 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W30 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s10.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 2 Apr 2011 07:09:01 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:09:01 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2011 14:09:02.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[849D8320:01CBF13F] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: Pastel de nata X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=IF62H8gSXIB3YKKtFw_EfKiymSbv19epR_6xn18cShE X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kar amiki Dum la lasta semano, che kafeerio me manjis saporoza portuga= lana kuketo kun la nomo 'Pastel de nata'. Hodie me kreis nova artiklo 'Pa= stel de nata' che la Ido-Wikipedio: http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastel_d= e_nata Bon apetito! From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7881 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64001 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2011 15:24:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2011 15:24:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.160) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2011 15:24:47 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 15:24:47 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 15:24:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 15:24:46 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Diskurso pri haiku e lingui. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=AO1QZx5SrP43z-1M2JPBzRSe-Q4SNLc09fC_FLc7pfZarZrQFYwGuJ_OTp5L X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 IDIOM NEUTRAL: Palud ansian. Ran saltav in akua ko bruad sonor. Rosto. = --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" = escribi=F3: > > Amiko Antonio: > > Me ne savas kande exakte tu montros > = publike tal "haiku" da Basho tradukita > en plura LIA-sistemi, ma me volunt= e > sendas a tu, enlistizite, omna to, quon > ni sucesabas prikolektar ent= ote: > > > ESPERANTO: > Malnov-lageto. > Rano tien ensaltas > Akvo-brueto= . > > IDO: > Olda lageto. > Enirigesas rano. > Bruiso dil aquo. > > INTER= LINGUA: > Le vetule stagno. > Un rana salta intro. > Ruito del aqua. > > N= OVIAL: > Oldi lagete. > Rane salta en lu. > Aque-bruiso. > > SLOVIO: > Sta= rju malozero. > Zxaba vskacxijt. > Sxum om voda. > > LFN: > Un vea stange.= > Un rana salta. > Ruido de acua. > > EUROLINGU: > Olda pulu, > froshu in= salte, > strepanju da vodu. > > ARIEL: > Vetule stagne. > In salta rane. >= Ruite acua la. > > SAMBAHSA: > Un veut vivair > Un batrac merct > Blosk i= os wed > > LdP: > Lao chitan. > Hama plunji. > Akwa pleski. > > POPULIDO:= > Yen laget old. > Yen ke ran plunj en ol. > Yen chof del akua. > > > Fo= rsan, plusa kompani deziros kunlaborar > per tradukar ta "haiku" aden plusa= helpo-lingui. > > Bona chanco, Toniu! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * *= * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7882 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55287 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2011 16:20:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2011 16:20:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2011 16:20:16 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 16:20:14 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Apr 2011 16:20:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:20:14 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Haiku-i bezonata. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=AHYEbxZBCH-q_w-JA0UWfIdF8SQ3Xvzt9J4lq1e-hhTljstclTCevBo X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi He, James! Ecepte se l'amiko Antonio indikos a ni lo kontrea, semblas a me= ke ni simple invitesas tradukar la tri "haiku"-i, quin il prizentis en Id= o, aden plusa helpo-lingui. Me ipsa tradukabas oli tote literale aden Popu= lido, sen ne mem atencar la tipa silabaro, nam Antonio anke ne egardabas ol= ca en Ido. Do, adavane sensucie tua tradukuri en Novial! Standez bone! *= * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogro= ups.com, James Chandler skribis: Kara Partaka, Me vol= unte, quale antee, tradukos ica "haiku"-i aden Novial, ma pro la simileso i= nter Ido e Novial, me timas ke me povos nur literale a tre automate traduka= r la bela poemeti. Nam me nule esas poeto, kontre ke altri (exemple vu) te= ndencas tradukar libere tala texteti, kreive produktante ulo nova. Se, t= amen, literala e repetiva tradukuri esas aceptebla e mem dezirinda, me volu= nte provizos oli. Kordiale From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7883 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Iste es to, ko es faci= la por me facer, "narod.ru" es un parte del servise "yandex.ru", pro to mi = uza por li jurnal li ret-post-adrese "enioni@...", iste es partes de = un servise. Rusi parol "narod" signifika "popule", if it es interesanta. = E anke li jurnal es distributebla libere, kuale mi komprende, on darfa met= er li numeres del jurnal anke in altra lokes, if on vole. Rosto. --- En= posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler escribi=F3: > > >= Kara samforumani, > > > Me prizas la recente editita revui, IE Munde e= POSTA MUNDI, do me opinionas ke li devas esar lektebla da omna interesati,= ne nur da membri di ca grupo. Ultre kargar sua revui al arkivi di posta_M= undi, me pregas la editeri di amba revui publikigar oli anke reguloze e sam= tempe che reto-situo acesebla da interesati qui ne adheras ica grupo, e tal= e ne povas acesar l'arkivi. > > > Predanko. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7885 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=Jp3OFWdjt6iP2k73NufHYR4MYJYAUNbVzxyHA3Yu0wKXRRhJOSBaY4A X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Tik-tak, Antonio! Pos la recenta tradukuro en Idiom Neutral dal amiko Ros= to, yen omno quon ni havas pri la famoza "haiku" da Basho (plus versiono e= n Volap=FCk, kaze ke tu tandem obtenabas ol). ESPERANTO: Malnov-lageto. R= ano tien ensaltas Akvo-brueto. IDO: Olda lageto. Enirigesas rano. Bruiso d= il aquo. INTERLINGUA: Le vetule stagno. Un rana salta intro. Ruito del aqu= a. NOVIAL: Oldi lagete. Rane salta en lu. Aque-bruiso. IDIOM NEUTRAL: Pal= ud ansian. Ran saltav in akua ko bruad sonor. SLOVIO: Starju malozero. Zxa= ba vskacxijt. Sxum om voda. LFN: Un vea stange. Un rana salta. Ruido de ac= ua. EUROLINGU: Olda pulu, froshu insalte, strepanju da vodu. ARIEL: Vetul= e stagne. In salta rane. Ruite acua la. SAMBAHSA: Un veut vivair Un batrac= merct Blosk ios wed LdP: Lao chitan. Hama plunji. Akwa pleski. POPULIDO:= Yen laget old. Yen ke ran plunj en ol. Yen chof del akua. Maxim kordial = saluto! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7886 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=mzK770uIwcAFzzIIlFyvweinOt22bfoPPb4NaZ1pH_-BuzATO9QagkHY X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta In un ofis she nu, bli un dwar, me oftem vidi un nam-planka kun sekwi-she= nam: "Tigran Leonovich Kamishan". Es drole nam bikos it es totem kota-ney:= Tigran simili "tigra", Leonovich signifi "Leon-ney son", e Kamishan simili= "kamishovi kot" (kana-kota). --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postam= undi" escribi=F3: > > Ho, ya, kar kompan! Finei, ank me ko= nkluzabab, > ke max probablei nosi amiko Tigran es armen, > pos ke me saves= kab ke, che Armenia, existab > rejo Tigran II le Grand, e ke nom Tigran sem= ble > relate max apartei ti land en Kaukazia: Armenia. > Me danke tui mesaj= ed interes. Plen danke, Rostu! > (Tigran Partakasyan) > > > --- En posta= _Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "r0st0" skribab: > > Li = nome Tigran versimile es plu konosat in Rusia kam in Hispania, pro to forsa= n es plu oportuna por me, kom un rusiano, responder, nam es facile trovar l= i informacione pri li tema in ruslingui fontes. > > Nu, faktim, un hom ku= n tal nome maksim versimile apartena al popule Armen. > > Mi personale sav= e nul hom kun tal nome. Tamen li maksim proksima mental asociuro - li nome = de un rusian rejisore de filmes, Tigran Keosayan. Ta nome frequente sona ch= e radio e TV. Mi ipsa tamen memora nul filmes, quel il facev, e pos regarda= r lei situe, mi videskav, ke mi vere no spektav alko de lei filmes. > > Li= nome, segun un fonte, es de greki deveno e signifika "havent inflamabla te= mperamente", segun altri fonte it es de nekonosat deveno armeni. > > In l= i ruslingui libre kun priskribaciones de temperamentes de nomes es skribat,= ke Tigranes lor su puereso apecia interogar multe, e adoltes frequente no = save, quo responder a lesi kuestiones. Tigran tre ama su matre, e lei marit= a versimile es simila a lei matre. Li temperamente es ekstraverta. Il es to= leranta, ma no es rekomendebla trouzar lei toleranteso. > > Anke mi videsk= av un informacione, ke in Francia 270'000 armenes habita, ergo tei Tigran t= re versimile es de Francia. > > Li prim pajine de Guglo dona sekuanta Tigr= anes: > > Tigran Keosayan; > Tigran Hudaverdyan; > Tigran Sarkisyan; > Ti= gran Karlenovich Arutyunyan. > > -yan es li kustumal finale de armeni fam= ilian nomes. > > Rosto. > > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups= .com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Salut, kompans! Preyer, m= e konose viro > stranjer, keli nome me nul-temp audabe: > Tigran. Me no sav= e u ti hom naskabe, > ma, pro lui nom, acent ed aspekte, me > kuik baptab = ilu: Tigran Khalil Tigran :-) > Ka vus konose ul Tigran en certen land? > (= Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7888 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:49:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2011 10:49:28.0353 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE288910:01CBF1EC] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [idolisto] Pastel de nata X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=UUPddDmc9uqiaZSxlQSo_nwZ7_6FfABvukX1mcRXJRU X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Do me kelke plubonigis e netigis ica artikleto, per korektigar kelka erori= e diminutar la nombro de "reda ligili" per chanjar kelka lando-nomi qui ne= exakte korespondis kun l'existanta land-artikli che Wikipedio (Brazilia, S= ao Tome e Principe, Kabo Verda, Makau). Kelkafoye la justa lando-nomo esas= desfacile trovebla! http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastel_de_nata = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7889 Return-Path: X-Sender: hispanahirundo@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=358636004; y=MpB3e9-bHCjk8Lrb2dPXpAoAIXJ80sxkKijnh2OWuOVOVCbfwBoFNKU X-Yahoo-Profile: hispanahirundo Kar amiki, me vere dankas vi omna la traduki. Me anke ja havas la quar hai= ku-i quin me deziras montrar al asistanti en Volap=FCk, ma nun me ne havas = li che ica komputilo, tale me sendos li cavespere. Amikale, Antonio. ---= En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escr= ibi=F3: > > Tik-tak, Antonio! > > Pos la recenta tradukuro en Idiom Neutra= l > dal amiko Rosto, yen omno quon ni havas > pri la famoza "haiku" da Bas= ho (plus versiono > en Volap=FCk, kaze ke tu tandem obtenabas ol). > > >= ESPERANTO: > Malnov-lageto. > Rano tien ensaltas > Akvo-brueto. > > IDO: = > Olda lageto. > Enirigesas rano. > Bruiso dil aquo. > > INTERLINGUA: > Le= vetule stagno. > Un rana salta intro. > Ruito del aqua. > > NOVIAL: > Old= i lagete. > Rane salta en lu. > Aque-bruiso. > > IDIOM NEUTRAL: > Palud an= sian. > Ran saltav in akua > ko bruad sonor. > > SLOVIO: > Starju malozero= . > Zxaba vskacxijt. > Sxum om voda. > > LFN: > Un vea stange. > Un rana s= alta. > Ruido de acua. > > EUROLINGU: > Olda pulu, > froshu insalte, > str= epanju da vodu. > > ARIEL: > Vetule stagne. > In salta rane. > Ruite acua = la. > > SAMBAHSA: > Un veut vivair > Un batrac merct > Blosk ios wed > > = LdP: > Lao chitan. > Hama plunji. > Akwa pleski. > > POPULIDO: > Yen laget= old. > Yen ke ran plunj en ol. > Yen chof del akua. > > > Maxim kordial = saluto! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7890 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=k6tRkawwQihVScl1vn64qfr_yjZ2JpjZJtTj_shgsKU X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kara Rosto, Me jus ri-lektis vua artiklo pri ENIONI en PM#2 kun mem pl= u granda intereso. To quo atraktas me esas precipue vua diagramo. Tamen e= n l'artiklo vu ne explikas omna detali, pri quale funcionus ica skemo. Sem= blas a me ke vua metodo esus aranjar la ENIONI-lingui per spektro segun nat= uralatreso: Esp - Ido - IN - Nov - Occ - Ia Lore tri intersequanta ling= ui darfas aliancesar por krear "intersistema linguo". Ni do obtenus quar I= S-lingui: Esp-Ido-IN (EIN) IS1 Ido-IN-Nov (INN) IS2 IN-Nov-Occ (NNO) IS3 = Nov-Occ-Ia (NOI) IS4 Plusa posibleso esus probar aplikar la reguli qui pr= oduktis la ENIONI-lingui ek la DEFIRS-lingui, al ENIONI-lingui ipsa. Tale = ni obtenus la "Esperanto di ENIONI", "Ido di ENIONI" ec., sis IS-lingui ent= ote. Ni povus nomizar li 2Esperanto, 2Ido ec. Pose ni ri-aplikus la sama = regulari al 2ENIONI-lingui, obtenante 3ENIONI. Ni repetus ica procedo til = ke la diferi inter la nENIONI-lingui esus minima. Lore la ensemblo nENIONI= esus quaze un linguo (teoriale). ENIONI-ala saluti = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7891 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56148 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2011 11:34:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Apr 2011 11:34:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc4-s48.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.54.51.99) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2011 11:34:49 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W54 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s48.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 3 Apr 2011 04:34:31 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: posta_mundi Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:34:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2011 11:34:31.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[19A3C020:01CBF1F3] From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] Haiku-i bezonata. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=kgmOZKmlFE6p7BkvImef-gGgxNRxc-54kGI_WGAH-0g X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Novial: Kand on non pove manja, li fresheso del aque. Sur dis vie nul = home promena. Autumnal vespre. Sin men voyajado e sin li printempe me vud= ha perda dis jornesko. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7892 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=iZRpBLppic7dv7lrAh-AYJMDZmcOXapSATP84haekYdDNVw_Qgit65DZzaxx X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Yes, James, mi ipsa senta, ke mi no explikav iste suficiante detaloze. Iste= es pro ke mi vere no imagina omna detales. Mi no pensav aranjar ta lingua= s segun naturalatreso. Forsan iste es bona ed=E9a. Pri Esperanto de ENIONI,= Ido de ENIONI etc - forsan, mi pensav pri alko simila, ma pose obliviav. E= pro ko no? On kustumale negative regarda probes reformar linguas artificia= l. Iste sembla eser mem plu mal, kam konstruktar propra linguas. Ya, hereti= kes frequente es regardat plu mal kam altra-kredanes. Versimile, iste es p= ro ke reformistes have fantazie no limitizat, unu ofra un koze, altru ofra = altra koze, e ili nulkuande konsentira. Plu facila es sekuar un certa stand= arte. De altra latere, if nosi reformes sekua certa plane e skope, tande is= te esera tote altra kaze. Es interesanta eksperementar in ista direkcione.= Skribar eksperemental tekstes in Esperanto de ENIONI, Interlingua de ENION= I etc. Forsan mi facera iste. Pri sekunda o triesma generacione de tal refo= rmes forsan es ankor temporan dicer. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogro= ups.com, James Chandler escribi=F3: > > > Kara Rosto, > > = > Me jus ri-lektis vua artiklo pri ENIONI en PM#2 kun mem plu granda intere= so. To quo atraktas me esas precipue vua diagramo. Tamen en l'artiklo vu = ne explikas omna detali, pri quale funcionus ica skemo. Semblas a me ke vu= a metodo esus aranjar la ENIONI-lingui per spektro segun naturalatreso: > = > Esp - Ido - IN - Nov - Occ - Ia > > Lore tri intersequanta lingui darf= as aliancesar por krear "intersistema linguo". Ni do obtenus quar IS-lingu= i: > > Esp-Ido-IN (EIN) IS1 > Ido-IN-Nov (INN) IS2 > IN-Nov-Occ (NNO) IS3= > Nov-Occ-Ia (NOI) IS4 > > Plusa posibleso esus probar aplikar la reguli= qui produktis la ENIONI-lingui ek la DEFIRS-lingui, al ENIONI-lingui ipsa.= Tale ni obtenus la "Esperanto di ENIONI", "Ido di ENIONI" ec., sis IS-lin= gui entote. Ni povus nomizar li 2Esperanto, 2Ido ec. Pose ni ri-aplikus l= a sama regulari al 2ENIONI-lingui, obtenante 3ENIONI. Ni repetus ica proce= do til ke la diferi inter la nENIONI-lingui esus minima. Lore la ensemblo = nENIONI esus quaze un linguo (teoriale). > > > ENIONI-ala saluti > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7893 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=358636004; y=lt7r2pTY0s4-_k0RDvafIXH2W7xMadacTsfdYil1OU74xKifVIwUzco X-Yahoo-Profile: hispanahirundo Kar amiki, yen la haiku-i tradukita da Ralph Midgley aden Volap=FCk e Neo.= Vere esas importantega traduko, nam esas bonega kozo havar la tradukajo ad= en un dil unesma internaciona lingui. VOLAP=DCK Lakil b=E4ldik. Pinin=FC= kon frog: tonod vata. Ven no kanoy fid=F6n, kold=FCl vata. Ve veg at me= n nonik spaton. Soar fluk=FCpa. Nen t=E4vs oba e nen flor=FCp eperob=F6v = delaprim at. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NEO Olda laket= o. So inir ran: rum del ak. Van so no par edi, lo freskeso del ak. Long= ale et veg nul om promenar. Ersa ser. Sen mas travelos e sen lo primaver = mi ur perdat et aubo. Yen mea haiku-ala blogo en la Hispana: http://vistas= alyelmo.blogspot.com/ Amikale, Antonio. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7895 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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La ligilo titulesas "Jurnal POSTA MUNDI", ed ol permisas direte acesar = omna numeri di nia nova jurnalo inter IAL per aparta e-adreso: http://es.g= roups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/links Me certesas ke ta ligilo esos adve= re utila. Til balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7896 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58255 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2011 00:58:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2011 00:58:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2011 00:58:30 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2011 00:58:30 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2011 00:58:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 00:58:29 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: Haiku-i bezonata. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=5BcPvW79nEHdbn_MRJmiHe1kM-2L4SQi0vrbzop4WvTjM529XRP5dQ8 X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Yen nia trio de "haiku"-i, qui tradukesis= , provizore, aden la 5 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Volapuk, Ido, Novial, Neo, Pop= ulido. VOLAP=DCK: Ven no kanoy fid=F6n, kold=FCl vata. Ve veg at men no= nik spaton. Soar fluk=FCpa. Nen t=E4vs oba e nen flor=FCp eperob=F6v delap= rim at. IDO: Kande onu ne povas manjar, la fresheso dil aquo. Sur ic= a voyo nula homo promenas. Autunal vespero. Sen mea voyajado e sen la p= rintempo me perdabus ca jornesko. NOVIAL: Kand on non pove manja, li f= resheso del aque. Sur dis vie nul home promena. Autumnal vespre. Sin = men voyajado e sin li printempe me vud ha perda dis jornesko. NEO: Van s= o no par edi, lo freskeso del ak. Longale et veg nul om promenar. Ersa ser= . Sen mas travelos e sen lo primaver mi ur perdat et aubo. POPULIDO: Ku= an on no pove manje, le freshes del akua. Sur ti ci voy nul hom promen. = Autunal vespre. Sen mei voyajade e sen le printempe, me perdabere ti ci = jorneske. Se posibla, voluntez tradukar oli aden plusa helpo-lingui qual = Esperanto klasika, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Idiom Neutral, Glos= a, LFN, od irg altra neutra LIA-sistemi, quin vi konocas. Predanko por via= kunlaboro, estimati! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7898 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80664 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2011 16:00:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2011 16:00:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2011 16:00:59 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2011 16:00:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2011 16:00:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 16:00:57 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Ka nENIONI? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=GL8h8Raoi8pr7H7Ct6FT9gg3ZKxWnF1mYEBPQ1M_5eIiw223GGN2PIQ X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kordial saluto, kar kolegi! Me devas agnoskar, ke anke me ne tote kompreni= s l'artiklo dal amiko Rosto en PM#2, ma ke anke me konsideris ol esar inter= esiva. Me ne mem parkomprenas nun, pos lektir la du suba mesaji... Semblas= a me, ke la sis lingui reprezentanta ENIONI povos divenar absolute interko= mprenebla, ma me pensas, ke nula ek oli modifikos sua bazo, ecepte, forsan,= nur kelka vorti, tale ke me tre 'dubtas', ke omna sis povas kunfluar a sol= a linguo. Se nula ek oli chanjos sua bazo, anke ne posiblesos facar un sola= helpo-linguo ek trio de oli, ka yes? Quo esus Espo od Ido de ENIONI? Ka c= hanjar "paroli" e "parolar" a "parli" e "parlar" rispektive? Ka chanjar Esp= o "mateno" a "matino"? Kande me lektis l'artiklo, semblis a me komprenar, = ke, ni dicez, "la nova linguo neutra e natural" formacesus ne per kontakto = inter la sis rigida ENIONI-reprezentanti, ma per altra helpo-lingui ENIONI-= atra, qui povas e darfas movar, adaptesar e quik evolucionar: Sibelingua, P= opulido, Komunikando, Medilingua, Eurikido, Omnial, Eurana, Ikuso, ARIEL, A= tlango, Mondlango/Ulango, LFN, edc. Ni durigez la kantado! P A R T A K A= * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribis: Yes, James, mi ipsa senta, ke mi no explikav is= te suficiante detaloze. Iste es pro ke mi vere no imagina omna detales. Mi= no pensav aranjar ta linguas segun naturalatreso. Forsan iste es bona ed= =E9a. Pri Esperanto de ENIONI, Ido de ENIONI etc - forsan, mi pensav pri al= ko simila, ma pose obliviav. E pro ko no? On kustumale negative regarda pro= bes reformar linguas artificial. Iste sembla eser mem plu mal, kam konstruk= tar propra linguas. Ya, heretikes frequente es regardat plu mal kam altra-k= redanes. Versimile, iste es pro ke reformistes have fantazie no limitizat,= unu ofra un koze, altru ofra altra koze, e ili nulkuande konsentira. Plu f= acila es sekuar un certa standarte. De altra latere, if nosi reformes sekua= certa plane e skope, tande iste esera tote altra kaze. Es interesanta eks= perementar in ista direkcione. Skribar eksperemental tekstes in Esperanto d= e ENIONI, Interlingua de ENIONI etc. Forsan mi facera iste. Pri sekunda o t= riesma generacione de tal reformes forsan es ankor temporan dicer. Rosto.= --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler escribi= =F3: Kara Rosto, Me jus ri-lektis vua artiklo pri ENIONI en PM#2 k= un mem plu granda intereso. To quo atraktas me esas precipue vua diagramo.= Tamen en l'artiklo vu ne explikas omna detali, pri quale funcionus ica sk= emo. Semblas a me ke vua metodo esus aranjar la ENIONI-lingui per spektro = segun naturalatreso: Esp - Ido - IN - Nov - Occ - Ia Lore tri interse= quanta lingui darfas aliancesar por krear "intersistema linguo". Ni do obt= enus quar IS-lingui: Esp-Ido-IN (EIN) IS1 Ido-IN-Nov (INN) IS2 IN-Nov-Oc= c (NNO) IS3 Nov-Occ-Ia (NOI) IS4 Plusa posibleso esus probar aplikar la = reguli qui produktis la ENIONI-lingui ek la DEFIRS-lingui, al ENIONI-lingui= ipsa. Tale ni obtenus la "Esperanto di ENIONI", "Ido di ENIONI" ec., sis = IS-lingui entote. Ni povus nomizar li 2Esperanto, 2Ido ec. Pose ni ri-apl= ikus la sama regulari al 2ENIONI-lingui, obtenante 3ENIONI. Ni repetus ica= procedo til ke la diferi inter la nENIONI-lingui esus minima. Lore la ens= emblo nENIONI esus quaze un linguo (teoriale). ENIONI-ala saluti From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7899 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=QBvr6GbLFtljBIPj2avUybUNJXG45pkomhCvJqzFvPQoU8GWXj3EYDA X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Me jus lekte stult inkeste, segun olkel virs italian no pardon le rugs che = sui fiancata's ed spoza's, nam ils pense, ke le rugs ese le max mal defekt = en els. Ils pardon le rugs, ma nur de sui matra's ed ava's. Tal inkest es f= acat da entrapezey kosmetikal. e me lektab tal notisie che Yahoo Hispania, = u on ofrabe plur koment de lektors, kual ti ci da Paula, olkel adverei ridi= gabe me: "Nu, ke ils mariaj kun sui matra's o sui ava's!" Tre bon, Paula! = Tre bon! (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7901 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=LPkH8xjPcQ_UiCpiaVyEEw33Glq63h40ZC1uiS9zEby-F0bnSGyebfs X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Bon jorno, Antonio! Dum ke ni expektas plusa tradukuri de nia trio de "hai= ku"-i, yen la listo montranta la "haiku" maxim anciena, quan tu sendis a ni= , nome olta da Basho, pos adjuntir la versioni en Volap=FCk e Neo. VOLAP= =DCK Lakil b=E4ldik. Pinin=FCkon frog: tonod vata. ESPERANTO Malnov-la= geto. Rano tien ensaltas Akvo-brueto. IDIOM NEUTRAL Palud ansian. Ran sa= ltav in akua ko bruad sonor. IDO Olda lageto. Enirigesas rano. Bruiso di= l aquo. NOVIAL Oldi lagete. Rane salta en lu. Aque-bruiso. INTERLINGUA= Le vetule stagno. Un rana salta intro. Ruito del aqua. NEO Olda laketo= . So inir ran: rum del ak. SLOVIO Starju malozero. Zxaba vskacxijt. Sxum= om voda. LFN Un vea stange. Un rana salta. Ruido de acua. EUROLINGU = Olda pulu, froshu insalte, strepanju da vodu. ARIEL Vetule stagne. In sa= lta rane. Ruite acua la. SAMBAHSA Un veut vivair Un batrac merct Blosk i= os wed LdP Lao chitan. Hama plunji. Akwa pleski. POPULIDO Yen laget o= ld. Yen ke ran plunj en ol. Yen chof del akua. Ka plusa tradukuri, kar am= iki? Bona chanco, ed standez bone, Toniu! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * = * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7902 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Predanko por tua komprenemeso. P A R= T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7905 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=j0uRNgBm1tdlcBSGspv_cSxdLGTjo4Eeg06B3Iub4TRA3RKAbmbT_m8pjLA3 X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Ho, mi pensa, ke nulki vere intentav reformar ta respektinda linguas, e ist= e mem no es posibla. Anke un recepte, kuale krear li naturala neutrala eur= oklon, no pova exister, nam if tal recepte vud existe, ti hipotetik euroklo= n no esud naturala, ma esud nur un plusi artificiala lingua. Ma noi deve pe= nsar, kuale krear kondiciones maxim konduktiva a ke li naturala euroklon fi= n-finale aparara. Lingual experimentes es un de ta utila kondiciones. Mi h= ave mei id=E9as, ko darfa eser exemplim Esperanto 1ENIONI: "Vi demandas mi= , kio esas Esperanto 1ENIONI. Ghi ne tante diferas de Esperanto klasika, ku= ante Esperanto 2ENIONI. Nur si 5 alia linguoy uzas un simila elemento au re= gulo, kiu diferas de tiu elemento uzata en Esperanto, nur tiam tiu elemento= esos chanjata. Anstatau "est-" - "es-", anstatau "kaj" - "e", e tale simil= e. En Esperanto 2ENIONI si 4 alia linguoy uzas simila elemento, ghi tiam es= os uzata ankau en Esperanto 2ENIONI Chi tio esas kurta teksto en Esperanto = 1ENIONI, atendu kiam mi skribos pli longa teksto." Rosto. --- En posta_M= undi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > >= Kordial saluto, kar kolegi! > > Me devas agnoskar, ke anke me ne tote > k= omprenis l'artiklo dal amiko Rosto en PM#2, > ma ke anke me konsideris ol e= sar interesiva. > Me ne mem parkomprenas nun, pos lektir la > du suba mesaj= i... > > Semblas a me, ke la sis lingui reprezentanta > ENIONI povos diven= ar absolute interkomprenebla, > ma me pensas, ke nula ek oli modifikos sua = bazo, > ecepte, forsan, nur kelka vorti, tale ke me tre > 'dubtas', ke omna= sis povas kunfluar a sola linguo. > Se nula ek oli chanjos sua bazo, anke = ne posiblesos > facar un sola helpo-linguo ek trio de oli, ka yes? > > Quo= esus Espo od Ido de ENIONI? > Ka chanjar "paroli" e "parolar" a "parli" e = "parlar" > rispektive? Ka chanjar Espo "mateno" a "matino"? > > Kande me l= ektis l'artiklo, semblis a me komprenar, > ke, ni dicez, "la nova linguo ne= utra e natural" formacesus > ne per kontakto inter la sis rigida ENIONI-rep= rezentanti, > ma per altra helpo-lingui ENIONI-atra, qui povas e darfas > m= ovar, adaptesar e quik evolucionar: Sibelingua, Populido, > Komunikando, Me= dilingua, Eurikido, Omnial, Eurana, Ikuso, > ARIEL, Atlango, Mondlango/Ulan= go, LFN, edc. > > Ni durigez la kantado! > > > P A R T A K A > * * * * *= * * * * > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "r0st0" skribis: > > Yes, James, mi ipsa senta, ke mi no explikav ist= e suficiante detaloze. Iste es pro ke mi vere no imagina omna detales. > M= i no pensav aranjar ta linguas segun naturalatreso. Forsan iste es bona ed= =E9a. > Pri Esperanto de ENIONI, Ido de ENIONI etc - forsan, mi pensav pri = alko simila, ma pose obliviav. > E pro ko no? > On kustumale negative regar= da probes reformar linguas artificial. Iste sembla eser mem plu mal, kam ko= nstruktar propra linguas. Ya, heretikes frequente es regardat plu mal kam a= ltra-kredanes. > Versimile, iste es pro ke reformistes have fantazie no li= mitizat, unu ofra un koze, altru ofra altra koze, e ili nulkuande konsentir= a. Plu facila es sekuar un certa standarte. > De altra latere, if nosi refo= rmes sekua certa plane e skope, tande iste esera tote altra kaze. > Es int= eresanta eksperementar in ista direkcione. Skribar eksperemental tekstes in= Esperanto de ENIONI, Interlingua de ENIONI etc. Forsan mi facera iste. > P= ri sekunda o triesma generacione de tal reformes forsan es ankor temporan d= icer. > > Rosto. > > > > --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James = Chandler escribi=F3: > > > Kara Rosto, > > > Me jus ri-le= ktis vua artiklo pri ENIONI en PM#2 kun mem plu granda intereso. To quo at= raktas me esas precipue vua diagramo. Tamen en l'artiklo vu ne explikas om= na detali, pri quale funcionus ica skemo. Semblas a me ke vua metodo esus = aranjar la ENIONI-lingui per spektro segun naturalatreso: > > Esp - Ido = - IN - Nov - Occ - Ia > > Lore tri intersequanta lingui darfas aliancesa= r por krear "intersistema linguo". Ni do obtenus quar IS-lingui: > > Es= p-Ido-IN (EIN) IS1 > Ido-IN-Nov (INN) IS2 > IN-Nov-Occ (NNO) IS3 > Nov-Occ-= Ia (NOI) IS4 > > Plusa posibleso esus probar aplikar la reguli qui produ= ktis la ENIONI-lingui ek la DEFIRS-lingui, al ENIONI-lingui ipsa. Tale ni = obtenus la "Esperanto di ENIONI", "Ido di ENIONI" ec., sis IS-lingui entote= . Ni povus nomizar li 2Esperanto, 2Ido ec. Pose ni ri-aplikus la sama reg= ulari al 2ENIONI-lingui, obtenante 3ENIONI. Ni repetus ica procedo til ke = la diferi inter la nENIONI-lingui esus minima. Lore la ensemblo nENIONI es= us quaze un linguo (teoriale). > > > ENIONI-ala saluti > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7906 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49310 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2011 14:51:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2011 14:51:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2011 14:51:24 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2011 14:51:24 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2011 14:51:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:51:23 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: Enrique Iglesias e Grigori Rasputin X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=PTovRre7mudoY3qZb1IPSMJKBJXyA7lyeUfMkJQXhDWcxqtU-fAAfZyiocWY X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Hodie e hiere mi che mei laboreyo askoltav "lav-radio", un radio-stacione d= e populara muzika. Durante tota die de tempe a tempe ili anuncia, ke in Mos= kva vena kun koncerte Enrique Iglesias - "maxim sexuala hispano del planeta= ". Pos ke mi dekesma o dudekesma foye audiav, ke Enrique Iglesias es maxim = sexuala hispano del planeta, in mei kapo komensav aparar stulta penses. Mi = pensa: e ki es maxim sexuala ruso? Certe iste es Grigori Rasputin, kel es b= one konosat in li munde koncernu su enorma sexualeso, e pri kel mem ancien = Boney M kantav su kansone. Tale, on pova trovar komuna trates inter Enrique= Iglesias e Grigori Rasputin. ...Morge mi no plu askoltara "lav-radio", ser= chara alkel altra onde. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7907 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 293 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2011 16:05:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2011 16:05:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n4-vm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (67.195.135.100) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2011 16:05:55 -0000 X-Received: from [67.195.134.238] by n4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2011 16:05:55 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by t3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2011 16:05:54 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2011 16:05:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:05:53 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Enrique Iglesias e Grigori Rasputin X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=oeDUBHCSjbIOU7qqJCBK-qPWT5HaXoObQkoy7I0b9aEz0ULBzKZCDLU X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Salut, kompans! Yen ke ci, posiblei, eventab enigmatal fenomen, mem se me d= eve no eskarte, ke me ya povere agir no-konsiantei. Dum ke me lektab le mes= aj, me atingab le fraz, kel refere al "max sexual ruso", e lorei, me ips re= spondab jokozei le kestion per kuik dice: Putin. E nur plu tardei, me konsi= ab e konstatab, ke me pensab a "Putin", e ke l' mesaj refer a "Rasputin". = Ka hazard? Ka me pensab no-konsiantei a "Putin" nur pro ke me lektabab "Ra= sputin" en le titul del mesaj? Kad enigmatal fenomen? Kad ul altri koz? (Pa= rtaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Hodie e hiere mi che mei laboreyo askoltav "lav-radio", un r= adio-stacione de populara muzika. Durante tota die de tempe a tempe ili anu= ncia, ke in Moskva vena kun koncerte Enrique Iglesias - "maxim sexuala hisp= ano del planeta". Pos ke mi dekesma o dudekesma foye audiav, ke Enrique Igl= esias es maxim sexuala hispano del planeta, in mei kapo komensav aparar stu= lta penses. Mi pensa: e ki es maxim sexuala ruso? Certe iste es Grigori Ras= putin, kel es bone konosat in li munde koncernu su enorma sexualeso, e pri = kel mem ancien Boney M kantav su kansone. Tale, on pova trovar komuna trate= s inter Enrique Iglesias e Grigori Rasputin. ...Morge mi no plu askoltara "= lav-radio", serchara alkel altra onde. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7908 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64641 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2011 16:39:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2011 16:39:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc4-s43.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.54.51.94) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2011 16:39:42 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W4 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s43.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:39:42 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: posta_mundi Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 16:39:41 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2011 16:39:42.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[104FF3E0:01CBF3B0] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] RE: Ka nENIONI? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=sGGZIqCQLbTehyE7pUn4wqabWr5fMfrrSKS_HLgeeps X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kara Partaka Me ipsa ne povas imaginar, quale aspektas 2Esperanto, 2Id= o ec., e certe ne 3Esperanto ec., ma mea pensado vizas evitar omna arbitria= leso en la produktado di nova lingui. Ni adoptas ENIONI, la sis lingui, s= amtempe ni adoptez >ENIONI, la metodi qui produktas ENIONI ek la DEFIRS-lin= gui. Do nek la lingui, nek la metodi esas arbitriala. La unesma problemo= , esas ke ula ENIONI-lingui ne tote konsequeme cherpas del fonto-lingui. C= hefe kulpoza ca-relate esas Esperanto. Do >Esperanto esas min klare defini= ta kam >Interlingua. Ico omno esas nur fantaziala revo nun, ma forsan ulu= havos tempo por *reserchar pluse.. ENIONI-ala saluti = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7909 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=YI03hzLhAbpA3phU1-If28paW41yphpOsAi2CoS8zCCdVG1SVkV51l0 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Hola, James! Yen, kom exemplo, l'experimento, quan Rosto sugestas, e quan= povas esar interesiva, adminime kom probo. Ni videz quale aspektus ENIONI= -Espo, kaze ke ol adaptigesus al 4 o 5 cetera LIA-sistemi, qui reprezentas = ENIONI: - acheti: kompri - aperi: apari - arbo: arboro - beda=F9ri: regret= i - bildo: pikturo - blovi: sufli - bombono: bonbono - bremso: freno - brus= to: pektoro - busho: boko - cerbo: cerebro - ci: tu - char: pro ke - chemiz= o: kamizo - cheno: kateno - cherko: sarko - chevalo: kavalo - chiam: sempre= - danci: dansi - Dio, dio: Deo, deo Nu, Esperanto klasika ne darfas chanj= ar, ma, se me juste memoras, ol ya darfas adjuntar nova vorti samsignifikan= ta kam olti anciena por ke l'uzado decidez favore di olci o di olti, ka ne?= Dume, ENIONI-Espo, forsan povas montrar la justa voyo trairenda. E same= pri la 5 cetera lingui dil grupo ENIONI, mem se li esas, segun semblo, plu= intersimila. Standez bone! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En p= osta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler skribis: Kara Pa= rtaka Me ipsa ne povas imaginar, quale aspektas 2Esperanto, 2Ido ec.,= e certe ne 3Esperanto ec., ma mea pensado vizas evitar omna arbitrialeso e= n la produktado di nova lingui. Ni adoptas ENIONI, la sis lingui, samtem= pe ni adoptez >ENIONI, la metodi qui produktas ENIONI ek la DEFIRS-lingui. = Do nek la lingui, nek la metodi esas arbitriala. La unesma problemo, es= as ke ula ENIONI-lingui ne tote konsequeme cherpas del fonto-lingui. Chefe= kulpoza ca-relate esas Esperanto. Do >Esperanto esas min klare definita k= am >Interlingua. Ico omno esas nur fantaziala revo nun, ma forsan ulu ha= vos tempo por *reserchar pluse.. ENIONI-ala saluti From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7911 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=HffZFZBAEqjubseWgXBg0ShZaAM7VoyfP686R-iOyG0 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kara Partaka Semble vu plu klare komprenas kam me la reguli qui produk= tas Esp ek la DEFIRS-lingui. Exemple, quala regulo selektas la vorto BILDO= ? Ka: Cherpez la vorto ek la germana, segun skribo ne pronunco, ed igno= rez la cetera kin EFIRS-lingui. ? Unesme oportas klare dokumentizar la = regularo >Esperanto. La regulo >Interlingua, kontree, esas ja klare dokum= entizita, ma oportas verifikar ke ol esas aplikebla al ENIONI-lingui. Ico= voyo esas preske infinite longa e bezonas profunda *reserchado. Kordia= le From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7913 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Partaka Subject: Wikivortari-LIA (statistiki) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=AhJLjgxWQZnGnaX2TpKI2_EetU2YYBHGmcg9lQMKyStEqhf_QyBTv4c X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Honorinda samplanetani: Yen la prezenta stando di omna wikivortari-LIA (qu= i esas ofical che Wikipedia), relate lia nuna pozicioni, e la nombro de pag= ini publikigita, til hodie, per singla helpo-linguo: 12. Ido: 179.597 40= . Volapuk: 23.429 54. Esperanto: 10.664 85. Interlingua: 1.684 121. Interli= ngue: 184 143. Lojban: 40 Saluti e til balde! P A R T A K A * * * * * *= * * * [p_M] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7916 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=IqHg19bXDlNw--MY41uBXCIyEOrD3fbdtFK6cO05apftP7xLm29kvLs X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kara James: Me sincere ne savas qual metodo sequis l'amiko Zamenhof por s= elektar la radikaro di ilua Esperanto klasika; tamen, oportas konsiderar, k= e Espo preiris la cetera lingui dil grupo ENIONI, e ke Espo certe sucesis p= lubonigar ed igar plu internaciona la til lore sola helpo-linguo sucesoza: = Volap=FCk. Pluse, plu tarde, Zamenhof ipsa prizentis en 1894 sua famoza ref= ormo-projeto, ma olca regretinde refuzesis dal plumulto del Esperantistaro= , qua preferis chanjar nulo. Me simple montris en mea preirinta mesajo kel= ka exempli, quin me prenis del ret-situo ENIONI (da Rosto), e qui semblis a= me igar evidenta l'existo di plu multa intersimileso en la selekto dil rad= ikaro del cetera lingui ENIONI (li omna naskinta plu tarde kam Esperanto kl= asika) kam inter oli ed Espo ipsa. Tamen, malgre omno, Esperanto klasika kl= are apartenas al grupo ENIONI, kontre ke Volap=FCk, por exemplo, ne povus a= partenar. Maxim kordial saluto! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- = En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler skribis: Kar= a Partaka Semble vu plu klare komprenas kam me la reguli qui produkta= s Esp ek la DEFIRS-lingui. Exemple, quala regulo selektas la vorto BILDO ?= Ka: Cherpez la vorto ek la germana, segun skribo ne pronunco, ed ignor= ez la cetera kin EFIRS-lingui. ? Unesme oportas klare dokumentizar la= regularo >Esperanto. La regulo >Interlingua, kontree, esas ja klare dok= umentizita, ma oportas verifikar ke ol esas aplikebla al ENIONI-lingui. = Ico voyo esas preske infinite longa e bezonas profunda *reserchado. K= ordiale From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7918 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=Samx9tJM7GN7eRR26hhDkhcEJiEqHw4_BW6iYccYXYg X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kara Partaka Koncernas ne Esperanto, ma >Esperanto. Esperanto divenas= nur fonto-linguo dil procedo, quale la rusa. Quale vu certe savas, la cet= era kin ENIONI sequas klar e konsequema (*konsequenta) regulari por selekta= r sua vorti ek la DEFIRS-lingui. Unesme ulu mustas formulizar la reguli qu= i produktis Esperanto. Lore la kantado povos durar! Kordiale = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7920 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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Se tu ne ja posedas propra ret-situo en olqua prizen= tar la revuo IE-MUNDE por ke omna interesati povez lektar ol (ultre ti qui = membresas nia kara forumi, "Occidental" e "posta_Mundi"), me pensas ke on p= ovus kargar ol che l' ret-situo di ENIONI, inter la cetera materiali pri Oc= cidental/Interlingue, quin on trovas ibe, same kam trovesas ibe du plusa re= vui dijital: "VOK NEUTRAL" e "POSTA MUNDI". Do, kara Thomas, se tu konkord= us kun l'amiko Rosto pri tal posiblajo, me certesas ke IE-MUNDE ganus plusa= lekteri ed interesati pri Occidental/Interlingue. Yen la komuna ret-situo= di ENIONI-linguaro: http://enioni.narod.ru/ Maxim bona fortuno! P A R = T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7924 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Me pensab ke nosi mikri reklam por le jurnal POSTA MUNDI= esere publikigat singli-monatei nur en Sibelingua (od Intal), ma, segun se= mble, ol aparabe ja, adminimei, ank en Idiom Neutral e Populido, do, se vus= vol, vus ya pove traduk ol ad en Esperanto klasik, Interlingua, Occidental= , Novial, Neo, LFN, od irg altri LIA-sistem, por ke tal reklam ese publikig= at per diferant auxlings. Yen le text (en Ido), kel oport ese tradukat: *= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [p_M] posta_Mu= ndi Se vi deziras lektar singla-die plusa inter IAL-aji, voluntez vizitar = posta_Mundi, nia komuna forumo! Maxim kordial bonveno a vi omna, IAL-uzanti= ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Adavan posta_Mundi e POSTA MUNDI, estimats= ! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7926 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 32204 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 12:47:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 12:47:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 12:47:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 12:42:45 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 12:42:45 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 12:42:43 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [AUDIO] Esperanto - La prifosoj de Badik (Kvara chapitro) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=g2L-UwzfJAZEByNVpMf__rDxWARZ6uGbExPHg-M5iSRRyllNDXfdrL4 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Quoniam, de tre multa tempo ante nun, ni savis = nulo da nia samforumano Roberto, me joyas saveskar adminime pri ilua verko = en Esperanto klasika, "La prifosoj de Badik", quale me anke joyas povar ask= oltar ilua voco naracanta tal romano, danke ilua pria enrejistruri. Gratul= i, Roberto! Maxim kordial saluto ed omno bona! P A R T A K A * * * * * *= * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "ila_mesajero" skribis: & & & & & & & & & & & & Esperanto - La prifosoj de= Badik (Kvara chapitro) (3' 35'') http://www.ipernity.com/doc/34456/17721= 76 & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7928 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3687 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 14:15:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 14:15:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc4-s9.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.212) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 14:15:46 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W33 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s9.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 9 Apr 2011 07:15:46 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: posta_mundi Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:15:46 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2011 14:15:46.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[9EB273C0:01CBF6C0] From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] RE: Ka nENIONI? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=V4TCpXOdK7WHcbgvVgbnzKAxwzc7vJYuycQ1i4QTrWY X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kar amiki Segun ula bone informita membri dil forumo Auxlang, >Esperan= to ne existas. To esas, la metodo di Zamenhof esas esence arbitriala. Al= tre expresata, >Esperanto =3D Esperanto. To implikas, ke 2Esperanto =3D Es= peranto, e generale nEsperanto =3D Esperanto. Tale Esperanto ne helpos ni= ultre servar kom fonto-linguo dil procedo, e ni darfas eskartar >Esperanto= ek >ENIONI. Kordiala saluti From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7929 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4246 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 14:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 14:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 14:55:21 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 14:55:20 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 14:55:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 14:55:18 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Ka nENIONI? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=kkGQzQWF-U9PJZ7vMk-OlCXgY3xIXKhurTBxOJ2tOFRmwrPYmXiM_Qdrv75G X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Saluto. Mi pensav pri to, ko vi, James e Partaka, skribav pri ENIONI. Sembl= e, li tema es granda, e on pova generar multa id=E9as koncernu it. Maxim im= portanta es existo ipsa del koncepte ENIONI analogia al koncepte DEFIRS. On= pova inkluzar in DEFIRS anke li Latina, o Otto Jespersen inkluzav anke ska= ndinavi linguas (DEFIRSSc), Zamenhof forsan uzav DEFIRS no suficiante regul= oze, e on darfa skribar it altre - kom AFGHIR, ma li central id=E9a resta. = Analogie on darfa libere traktar ENIONI: forsan inkluzar altra linguas, fo= rsan regardar Esperanto kom "nur fonto-linguo dil procedo, quale la rusa", = o alkel altra nuances darfa eser. Nur existo del central id=E9a es importan= ta. Mi kreda, ke fin-finale isto konduktara a alkel utila. Rosto. --- En= posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler escribi=F3: > > >= Kara Partaka > > > Koncernas ne Esperanto, ma >Esperanto. Esperanto d= ivenas nur fonto-linguo dil procedo, quale la rusa. Quale vu certe savas, = la cetera kin ENIONI sequas klar e konsequema (*konsequenta) regulari por s= elektar sua vorti ek la DEFIRS-lingui. Unesme ulu mustas formulizar la reg= uli qui produktis Esperanto. Lore la kantado povos durar! > > > Kordia= le > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7930 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99370 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 15:18:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 15:18:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 15:18:02 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 15:18:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 15:18:00 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 15:18:00 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Ka nENIONI? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=D0sF92Wgcd9Whe3bH5jxWEA1ZlsJo4pLny2Z-My0SF3oadeWLSxUEBqZvwAH X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Kara James, mi jus lektav vosi letre pos ke mi enviav mei letre. Yes, mi ko= nsenta, ke vu darfa regardar ENIONI sin Esperanto, do, semble forsan NIONI.= Kuale mi skribav, variantes posibla, nur bazi id=E9a es importanta. If li = majoritate de homes, kel agnoska li koncepte, preferara dicer pri, exemplim= , NIONI, sin Esperanto, tande isto esera precipue NIONI. If dicer sincere, = mi inkluza Esperanto precipue por eser politkorekta, no pro sciental verita= te. Ma forsan in interlinguistika politkorekteso es no min importanta kam s= ciental veritate. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chan= dler escribi=F3: > > > Kar amiki > > > Segun ula bone info= rmita membri dil forumo Auxlang, >Esperanto ne existas. To esas, la metodo= di Zamenhof esas esence arbitriala. > > Altre expresata, >Esperanto =3D = Esperanto. To implikas, ke 2Esperanto =3D Esperanto, e generale nEsperanto= =3D Esperanto. > > Tale Esperanto ne helpos ni ultre servar kom fonto-li= nguo dil procedo, e ni darfas eskartar >Esperanto ek >ENIONI. > > > Kor= diala saluti > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7931 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25333 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 16:04:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 16:04:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 16:04:51 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.171] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 16:04:51 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 16:04:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:04:50 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Enrique Iglesias e Grigori Rasputin X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=zfmqbyW-Ij_W0iz3lVGb3D3NZo1ReYver7OXUVd8lbGMoZ3XqOzWsqtViiTI X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Prehiere mi askoltav "ruskoye radio", e audiv, ke G=E9rard Depardieu ludev = li role de Grigori Rasputin in li kunlabori francian-rusian filme. Ili dice= v, ke il aspekta tre simile. Koncernu nosi premier-ministro Putin, mi pensa= , ke il apereskav in tei mente, Partaka, nur pro simileso del nome, faktim = il aspekta tre modeste komparu exemplim a tal sexual giganto kam Silvio Ber= luskoni. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Salut, kompans! Yen ke ci, posiblei, eventab > en= igmatal fenomen, mem se me deve no > eskarte, ke me ya povere agir no-konsi= antei. > Dum ke me lektab le mesaj, me atingab le fraz, > kel refere al "ma= x sexual ruso", e lorei, me ips > respondab jokozei le kestion per kuik dic= e: Putin. > E nur plu tardei, me konsiab e konstatab, ke me > pensab a "Pu= tin", e ke l' mesaj refer a "Rasputin". > Ka hazard? Ka me pensab no-konsia= ntei a "Putin" > nur pro ke me lektabab "Rasputin" en le titul del > mesaj= ? Kad enigmatal fenomen? Kad ul altri koz? > (Partaka) > > > --- En posta= _Mundi@yahoogroups.com, > "r0st0" skribab: > > Hod= ie e hiere mi che mei laboreyo askoltav "lav-radio", un radio-stacione de p= opulara muzika. Durante tota die de tempe a tempe ili anuncia, ke in Moskva= vena kun koncerte Enrique Iglesias - "maxim sexuala hispano del planeta". = Pos ke mi dekesma o dudekesma foye audiav, ke Enrique Iglesias es maxim sex= uala hispano del planeta, in mei kapo komensav aparar stulta penses. Mi pen= sa: e ki es maxim sexuala ruso? Certe iste es Grigori Rasputin, kel es bone= konosat in li munde koncernu su enorma sexualeso, e pri kel mem ancien Bon= ey M kantav su kansone. Tale, on pova trovar komuna trates inter Enrique Ig= lesias e Grigori Rasputin. > ...Morge mi no plu askoltara "lav-radio", serc= hara alkel altra onde. > > Rosto. > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7932 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63709 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 17:55:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 17:55:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 17:55:27 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 17:55:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 17:55:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:55:24 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "ila_mesajero" Subject: [VIDEO] Lojban - xekri je blanu nicte **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=kL5WseMJypLEfkSe2c2u29FnSzVzdX357ID_87NqD6uTm7M2kwAD X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero & & & & & & & & & & & & Lojban - xekri je blanu nicte (1' 08'') **** h= ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyXazUC11vvI & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7933 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 28985 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 19:36:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 19:36:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 19:36:04 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 19:36:04 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 19:36:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 19:36:02 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: Enrique Iglesias e Grigori Rasputin X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=Tg05Ph0--HHB8CMY7cYS4OE35hcV2AZYqBlPJy5vMP6dFbGG-XPndJo X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi He, Rosto! Mem se me certei agnoskab tal posiblaj (nam me ya priz konsider= e omni koz), es adverei nulei klar, ke me pensab a Putin e kuik dicab lui n= om jokozei nur pro ke me, no-konsiantei, lektabab le nom Rasputin. Segun me= , le fenomen eventab enigmatozei: se no, me sincerei skribabere nul koz pri= ol. Ma, me danke tu pro tui responde rationoz. (Partaka) --- En posta_M= undi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Prehiere= mi askoltav "ruskoye radio", e audiv, ke G=E9rard Depardieu ludev li role = de Grigori Rasputin in li kunlabori francian-rusian filme. Ili dicev, ke il= aspekta tre simile. Koncernu nosi premier-ministro Putin, mi pensa, ke il= apereskav in tei mente, Partaka, nur pro simileso del nome, faktim il aspe= kta tre modeste komparu exemplim a tal sexual giganto kam Silvio Berluskoni= . Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: Salut, kompans! Yen ke ci, posiblei, eventab enigmatal feno= men, mem se me deve no eskarte, ke me ya povere agir no-konsiantei. Dum ke = me lektab le mesaj, me atingab le fraz, kel refere al "max sexual ruso", e = lorei, me ips respondab jokozei le kestion per kuik dice: Putin. E nur plu = tardei, me konsiab e konstatab, ke me pensab a "Putin", e ke l' mesaj refe= r a "Rasputin". Ka hazard? Ka me pensab no-konsiantei a "Putin" nur pro ke= me lektabab "Rasputin" en le titul del mesaj? Kad enigmatal fenomen? Kad u= l altri koz? (Partaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Hodie e hiere mi che mei laboreyo askoltav "= lav-radio", un radio-stacione de populara muzika. Durante tota die de tempe= a tempe ili anuncia, ke in Moskva vena kun koncerte Enrique Iglesias - "ma= xim sexuala hispano del planeta". Pos ke mi dekesma o dudekesma foye audiav= , ke Enrique Iglesias es maxim sexuala hispano del planeta, in mei kapo kom= ensav aparar stulta penses. Mi pensa: e ki es maxim sexuala ruso? Certe ist= e es Grigori Rasputin, kel es bone konosat in li munde koncernu su enorma s= exualeso, e pri kel mem ancien Boney M kantav su kansone. Tale, on pova tro= var komuna trates inter Enrique Iglesias e Grigori Rasputin. ...Morge mi n= o plu askoltara "lav-radio", serchara alkel altra onde. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7934 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50213 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2011 20:16:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2011 20:16:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2011 20:16:04 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 20:16:03 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2011 20:16:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 20:16:03 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Ka nENIONI? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=dP7vxyu_pEMEd7-BRscRs4RTJKCKIRz1h5UDfnhqP4tAlqxiT1rexwo X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Kordial saluto, amiki! Meajudike, ENIONI esas to quon ol esas, ed oportas = permanigar Esperanto klasika en ol' kom l'unesma granda helpo-linguo pasabl= e interkomprenebla kun le 5 cetera ENIONI-uni, ne tante importas olua metod= o. Espo nule devas adoresar, ma on anke ne darfas diskriminacar ol, nek t= ote refuzar ol, konsiderante ke ol apertis voyo kom unesmo. Irga-kaze, s= e 4 o 5 dil cetera ENIONI-lingui konfirmesas kom advere plu multe intersimi= la kam relate Esperanto klasika, lore evidentesos ke, maxim probable, olti = agis plu juste kam olca. Adavane plena e kompleta ENIONI-linguaro! P A R= T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0"= skribis: Kara James, mi jus lektav vosi letre p= os ke mi enviav mei letre. Yes, mi konsenta, ke vu darfa regardar ENIONI si= n Esperanto, do, semble forsan NIONI. Kuale mi skribav, variantes posibla, = nur bazi id=E9a es importanta. If li majoritate de homes, kel agnoska li ko= ncepte, preferara dicer pri, exemplim, NIONI, sin Esperanto, tande isto ese= ra precipue NIONI. If dicer sincere, mi inkluza Esperanto precipue por eser= politkorekta, no pro sciental veritate. Ma forsan in interlinguistika poli= tkorekteso es no min importanta kam sciental veritate. Rosto. --- E= n posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, James Chandler escribi=F3: Kar a= miki Segun ula bone informita membri dil forumo Auxlang, >Esperanto n= e existas. To esas, la metodo di Zamenhof esas esence arbitriala. Altre= expresata, >Esperanto =3D Esperanto. To implikas, ke 2Esperanto =3D Esper= anto, e generale nEsperanto =3D Esperanto. Tale Esperanto ne helpos ni u= ltre servar kom fonto-linguo dil procedo, e ni darfas eskartar >Esperanto e= k >ENIONI. Kordiala saluti From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7935 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Mi no trovav alko certa. In un artikle li autor = nara pri pseudo-linguistes. Kuanto de sones in linguas del munde es ne tre = granda, e kuanto de lesi kombinacies have su limites. Sempre alko in un lin= gua es hazarde simila a alko in altra lingua. Hike mi rememora un kansone d= e The Beatles, ube ili kanta in li angli: "Oh dear, what can I do?", ko in = li rusi sona tre simile a: "O, gde ya vodki naydu?", ko signifika: "O, ube = mi trovara vodka?" Kompreneble, nul rus-linguane pova askoltar ti kanson si= n ridete. Analogie es pri li kansone de Smokie, ube ili exklama kun granda = pasione: "What can I do!" - "Vodki naydu!" - "Mi trovara vodka!". Tale, ne = nur paroles, ma mem integra frazes pova eser hazarde simila in du diferanta= linguas, e signifikar diferanta kozes. Pseudo-linguistes no vole komprende= r, ke simileso pova eser hazarda, e in omna kazes ube ili vide simileso ili= preta vider anke etimologiala ligo. Frekuente ili uza isto por pruvar su p= seudo-sciental historik teories. E in ta artikle pri pseudo-linguistes li a= utor skriba, ke tal kazes pova eser, kande du paroles in du diferanta lingu= as hazarde sona simile e hazarde anke have identa signifiko. E yen un aston= anta exemple ex ta artikle: - "strano"-m., "strana"-f. de itali lingua - "s= trani"-m., "stranaya"- f. de rusi lingua (bulgari - "stranen"-m., "strana"-= f.) Amba es adjektives kel signifika un koze: stranja. If mi no lektav pri = to in li artikle, mi nulkande vud suspekta, ke ista du es etimologiale nede= pendanta. Certe, mi vud pensa ke ista du paroles have un komun deveno de pr= a-hind-europan lingua. Ma etimologia dice altro: Itali "strano" (same kuale= angli "strange", hispani "extra=F1o", etc.) devena de latini "extraneus". = Rusi "strani" es parenta a latini "sterno", ma no a "extraneus". Dekomense = isto es alkel area, pose latero (loko in distanta parte de un area), pose i= sto es stranja, o alko venant de latero, de altra loko e ko no es normala p= or ista loko. Yen, "strana" in li sense "stranja" es un kaze por Sekay Til= . Ma kuale tal kaze es nominat scientale? Mi no trovav. Por serioza scient= al linguistika tal kazes no have sciental valore, isto es nur hazarda fenom= ene, kel signifika nulko. (E isto es tote yuste!) E forsan ista fenomene m= em no have sciental nome. Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7937 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56426 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2011 18:00:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2011 18:00:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2011 18:00:08 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2011 18:00:08 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2011 18:00:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:00:08 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #29 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=b6xhGIXI52gozxDbzOwwkuKzDPaLjogwMJqGaX_OVW_EcJHZ3K0HYtk X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Karega posta_Mundi-ani: Ca-foye, me volunte deziras prizentar a vi texto e= n Intal, por ke ni povez tradukar ol aden plusa LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #= 29. Intal: Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta ti vorte's kel j= a es international. Plusim le lingua international mus atinga le maksimum = de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. Me supozas ke vi omna povas = facile komprenar la citita Intal-texto, ka ne? Se yes, me pregas vi traduka= r ol aden Esperanto klasika, Ido, Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novi= al, Idiom Neutral, Neo, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, od irg altra LIA-sist= emi. Adavane nia frazo #29, e predanko por via kunlaboro! * * * * * * * = * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7938 Return-Path: X-Sender: philippe.cousson@... 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Message-ID: <4DA1FCB2.2070808@...> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:53:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050601030106080609010101" From: Philippe Cousson Reply-To: philippe.cousson@... Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Frazo #29 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=386199761; y=Bhk3Nd-_XUK8vc6ogy5mtmr0QFIv3s2rchwABZTsTDIy6IyYidUACmTh X-Yahoo-Profile: philippecousson --------------050601030106080609010101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Esperanto Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, la internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon. Kore Philippe Cousson 10/04/2011 20:00, postamundi a �crit : > > Karega posta_Mundi-ani: > > Ca-foye, me volunte deziras prizentar a vi > texto en Intal, por ke ni povez tradukar ol > aden plusa LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #29. > > Intal: > Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta > ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim le lingua > international mus atinga le maksimum de fasilit�, > regularit� e naturalit�. > > Me supozas ke vi omna povas facile komprenar > la citita Intal-texto, ka ne? Se yes, me pregas vi > tradukar ol aden Esperanto klasika, Ido, Interlingua, > Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Neo, > Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, od irg altra LIA-sistemi. > > Adavane nia frazo #29, e predanko por via kunlaboro! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > > --------------050601030106080609010101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Esperanto

Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, la internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon.

Kore
Philippe Cousson

 10/04/2011 20:00, postamundi a écrit :
 

Karega posta_Mundi-ani:

Ca-foye, me volunte deziras prizentar a vi
texto en Intal, por ke ni povez tradukar ol
aden plusa LIA-sistemi kom nia frazo #29.

Intal:
Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta
ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim le lingua
international mus atinga le maksimum de fasilité,
regularité e naturalité.

Me supozas ke vi omna povas facile komprenar
la citita Intal-texto, ka ne? Se yes, me pregas vi
tradukar ol aden Esperanto klasika, Ido, Interlingua,
Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Neo,
Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, od irg altra LIA-sistemi.

Adavane nia frazo #29, e predanko por via kunlaboro!

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 22765 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2011 15:50:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2011 15:50:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2011 15:50:48 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2011 15:50:48 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2011 15:50:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:50:46 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=JUvomYVdPCQ7IfE9bJFEGKyf0G1HqCvb7GQAfGVP77eduMnvImOa4hI X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Maxim kordial saluto, p_M-ani! Yen nia frazo #29, ja tradukita en la 3 seq= uanta LIA-sistemi: Intal, Esperanto, Ido. Intal: Un lingue konstruktat a = posteriori dev adopta ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim, le lingu= a international mus atinga le maksimum de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e natur= alit=E9. Esperanto: Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti tiujn vort= ojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, la internacia lingvo devas atingi la= plej grandajn facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon. Ido: Linguo konstru= ktita aposteriorie devas adoptar ti vorti, qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse,= la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la maxima facileso, regulozeso e nat= uraleso. E nun, se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #29 aden plusa LI= A-sistemi por ke ni povez pokope plugrandigar nia listo relatanta til kompl= etigar olca. Adavane, kolegaro! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * = * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7943 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 48152 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2011 18:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2011 18:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2011 18:00:46 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.150] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2011 18:00:44 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t7.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2011 18:00:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:00:43 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "qualevistandas" Subject: [MM] Simiatri virs X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=ZEcbHliCEoPyDaF8dMAF_R37gAs6DfJXh2Zx7V46_5KnH8dPwqYFWDY X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas En mei teritorie, existe virs, kel aspekte simiatri, no nur fizikei, ma mem= kondutei. 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Bon, yo ha mettet li 3 numer=F3s del rev=FAe IE-MUNDE al ret-loc e= nioni.narod.ru : http://enioni.narod.ru/occidental/iemunde01.pdf ; http://e= nioni.narod.ru/occidental/iemunde02.pdf ; http://enioni.narod.ru/occidental= /iemunde03.pdf . Anc li referenties a ti documentes es mettet al frontal pa= gine del ret-loc. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" escribi=F3: > > Kara Partaka! > > Til nun me ne havas ret-s= ituo por IE Munde. To certe esas problemo. Me anke reflektabas pri to. > >= Me konkordas pri tua propozo kargar IE Munde sur la ret-situo ENIONI. Me d= ankas pro ica bona ideo. > > Amikale > Thomas > > --- En posta_Mundi@yaho= ogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > > > Bona ve= spero, Thomas! > > > > Se tu ne ja posedas propra ret-situo > > en olqua p= rizentar la revuo IE-MUNDE > > por ke omna interesati povez lektar ol > > (= ultre ti qui membresas nia kara forumi, > > "Occidental" e "posta_Mundi"), = me pensas > > ke on povus kargar ol che l' ret-situo di ENIONI, > > inter l= a cetera materiali pri Occidental/Interlingue, > > quin on trovas ibe, same= kam trovesas ibe du plusa > > revui dijital: "VOK NEUTRAL" e "POSTA MUNDI"= . > > > > Do, kara Thomas, se tu konkordus kun l'amiko Rosto > > pri tal p= osiblajo, me certesas ke IE-MUNDE ganus > > plusa lekteri ed interesati pri= Occidental/Interlingue. > > > > Yen la komuna ret-situo di ENIONI-linguar= o: > > > > http://enioni.narod.ru/ > > > > Maxim bona fortuno! > > > > = > > P A R T A K A > > * * * * * * * * * > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7946 Return-Path: X-Sender: csolisr@... 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Subject: Re: [posta_Mundi] Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=417836819; y=UrhzTMvKrREU42KlRADo1u6B-r5hZrVXNrp07Sm_vzd2mRNmtXs X-Yahoo-Profile: csolisr_azk --000e0cd2deb405c55704a0abb0d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LdP: Afte-konstrukti-ney lingwas majbur adopti toy wordas kel yo es interna= sion-ney. Yoshi, internasion-ney lingwa mus ateni maximale fasilitaa, regul= aritaa e naturalitaa. - Carlos Sol=EDs 2011/4/11 postamundi > > > Maxim kordial saluto, p_M-ani! > > Yen nia frazo #29, j= a tradukita > en la 3 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > Intal, Esperanto, Ido. > > In= tal: > Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta > ti vorte's kel ja es= international. Plusim, > le lingua international mus atinga le maksimum > = de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. > > Esperanto: > Lingvo konstru= ita aposteriore devas elekti > tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Pl= ie, > la internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn > facilecon, regul= arecon kaj naturecon. > > Ido: > Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas ado= ptar > ti vorti, qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, > la linguo internaciona = mustas atingar la maxima > facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso. > > E nun, se= posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #29 > aden plusa LIA-sistemi por ke n= i povez pokope > plugrandigar nia listo relatanta til kompletigar olca. > >= Adavane, kolegaro! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * >= > > --000e0cd2deb405c55704a0abb0d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LdP:
Afte-konstrukti-ney lingwas majbur adopti
toy wordas kel yo es i= nternasion-ney. Yoshi,
internasion-ney lingwa mus ateni maximale
fasi= litaa, regularitaa e naturalitaa.

- Carlos Sol=EDs
=

2011/4/11 postamundi = <chepartaka@...>= ;
=A0
=

Maxim kordial saluto, p_M-ani!

Yen nia frazo #29, = ja tradukita
en la 3 sequanta LIA-sistemi:
Intal, Esperanto, Ido.
Intal:
Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta
ti vor= te's kel ja es international. Plusim,
le lingua international mus = atinga le maksimum
de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9.
Esperanto:
Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti
tiujn vort= ojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie,
la internacia lingvo devas ating= i la plej grandajn
facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon.

Ido:=
Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas adoptar
ti vorti, qui ja e= sas internaciona. Pluse,
la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la maxim= a
facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso.

E nun, se posibla, volunt= ez tradukar nia frazo #29
aden plusa LIA-sistemi por ke ni povez pokope=
plugrandigar nia listo relatanta til kompletigar olca.

Adavan= e, kolegaro!

* * * * * * * *
p a r t a k a
* * * * * * *= *


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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 28160 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2011 01:12:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2011 01:12:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2011 01:12:15 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 01:12:15 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.35] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 01:12:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:12:13 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "ila_mesajero" Subject: [VIDEO] Ido - Idala Podkasto 30 **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=cPyNUekWjsiDlnV7nFaV-YYGzdxFkDsiT2Py_FEghBC6T1haYxAp X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero & & & & & & & & & & & & Ido - Idala Podkasto 30 (10' 39'') **** http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DssWQ9RbFjig & & & & & & & & & & & & From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7948 Return-Path: X-Sender: lingwadeplaneta@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65335 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2011 11:23:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2011 11:23:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2011 11:23:59 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 11:23:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 11:23:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:23:57 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "lingwadeplaneta" Subject: RE: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=319355022; y=nK5nw28TmxmKcfyf9wa2ME0rSF6QYmT5Lm_ABBt05rsf7F9Y7mX0At1q X-Yahoo-Profile: lingwadeplaneta Shukran, Carlos! Ga hao. Sol dwa syao remarka. =3D=3D Afte-konstrukti-n= ey lingwas In teoria es posible, bat fo pyu-ney klaritaa me wud yusi worda= "aposteriori", dan oli tuy samaji, om kwo temi. Aposteriori-lingwa =3D li= ngwa konstrukten aposteriori. Apriori-lingwa =3D lingwa konstrukten aprior= i. =3D=3D majbur "majbur" maini "mus, bikos otre varianta yok" (Eo "esti= devigita") Exampla: Me lai a pisina dabe swimi, bat poy merki ke me he f= ogeti swimi-panta. Diabla! Majbur go a dom. Dmitri --- En posta_Mundi@= yahoogroups.com, "csolisr@..." escribi=F3: > > LdP: > Afte-ko= nstrukti-ney lingwas majbur adopti > toy wordas kel yo es internasion-ney. = Yoshi, > internasion-ney lingwa mus ateni maximale > fasilitaa, regularitaa= e naturalitaa. > > - Carlos Sol=EDs > > > 2011/4/11 postamundi > > > > > > > Maxim kordial saluto, p_M-ani! > > > > Yen nia fraz= o #29, ja tradukita > > en la 3 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > > Intal, Esperanto,= Ido. > > > > Intal: > > Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta > > = ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim, > > le lingua international mus= atinga le maksimum > > de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. > > > >= Esperanto: > > Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti > > tiujn vortoj= n kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, > > la internacia lingvo devas atingi l= a plej grandajn > > facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon. > > > > Ido: > > = Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas adoptar > > ti vorti, qui ja esas in= ternaciona. Pluse, > > la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la maxima > > = facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso. > > > > E nun, se posibla, voluntez trad= ukar nia frazo #29 > > aden plusa LIA-sistemi por ke ni povez pokope > > pl= ugrandigar nia listo relatanta til kompletigar olca. > > > > Adavane, koleg= aro! > > > > * * * * * * * * > > p a r t a k a > > * * * * * * * * > > > > = > > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7949 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76181 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2011 13:49:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2011 13:49:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2011 13:49:41 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 13:49:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 13:49:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:49:40 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] Simiatri virs X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=ylwsUUzckLsmZzdrgfkr_vh_S8Ab5SCcuja624mP6xJnlpjH-DOliBMcCYYo X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Hodie mi audiav un joke pri Barcelona fro "Radio Rekord", radio de dansi kl= ubi muzika. Es drola, ke on pova askoltar che laboreyo o in heme ta muzika,= kel deve segun id=E9a sonar che nokti klubes. "Radio Rekord" es un radio d= e Peterburg, e Peterburg es agnoskat kom kultural chef-urbe de Rusia (kuale= mi memora, Dmitri habita ibe). Do, li joke es poke in stile peterburgi: "= In Barcelona du yun homes esev arestat pro ke ili vulnerav anima de un taxi= ste per su vidpunkte a kreativeso de tarda Picasso." Yen, tale in Peterbu= rg on imagina habitantes de Barcelona kom tre kulturoza e delikata homes. E= ko skriba tu, Partaka? Nu, forsan ta sovajules es alkual imigrantes? O for= san on deve konstruktar plu multa monkeries, pro ke forsan quanto de monker= ies no es suficianta e pro to potencial matres de tal specie no have posibl= eso devenar monkas? O forsan Popo no suficante informa popule pri tala beat= a metode de kontracepcione. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "= qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > En mei teritorie, exis= te virs, kel aspekte > simiatri, no nur fizikei, ma mem kondutei. > Ils par= le tro lautei, krie, e frape violentozei, > per sui manue ringozi, le table= an olkel > ils side por lude karte's. Ils aspekte kualei > gorils adulti (= plez le ver gorils pardon me!). > Ho, kual pavor! Kual horor! Se me esere = fem, > me preferere diven monka kam bestio-spoza. > (Ela Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7950 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71794 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2011 16:16:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2011 16:16:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2011 16:15:59 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 16:15:59 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2011 16:15:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:15:58 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=AAz1s8oImtjFRYseu9vPxQlZMPENsOv5xLRj0xVXr6CLA-Mk27yFgoM X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Voluntez atencar nia frazo #29, qua ja tr= adukesis aden la 5 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Intal, Esperanto, Ido, LdP, Populi= do. Intal: Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta ti vorte's kel j= a es international. Plusim, le lingua international mus atinga le maksimum = de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. Esperanto: Lingvo konstruita a= posteriore devas elekti tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, la = internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn facilecon, regularecon kaj = naturecon. Ido: Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas adoptar ti vorti, q= ui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la ma= xima facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso. LdP: Lingwa konstrukten aposterior= i majbur adopti toy wordas kel yo es internasion-ney. Yoshi, internasion-ne= y lingwa mus ateni maximale fasilitaa, regularitaa e naturalitaa. Populido= : Ling konstruktat aposteriori dev adopte ti vorts, kel ja ese internationi= . Plusei, le ling internationi must atinge le maxim faciles, regulozes e na= turales. Se vi povas e deziras lo, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo #29 ad= en plusa LIA-sistemi: Interlingua, Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Ne= utral, Neo, Volap=FCk, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, edc. Danko e predanko= pri via intereso e kunlaboro. * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * *= * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7951 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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En grand urbe kual Barc= elona on ya pove trove irgi koz, ka no? Mem "le (katen-)mash(o) mankanta". = E mem taxi-konduktor sentivi pri Picasso (bon jok!). (To ko no revelab le j= ok de "Radio Rekord" es, ke tal konduktor esab, pre le prezent krize, le = direktor del muzeh Picasso en Barcelona) :-) (Partaka) --- En posta_Mun= di@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Hodie mi a= udiav un joke pri Barcelona fro "Radio Rekord", radio de dansi klubi muzika= . Es drola, ke on pova askoltar che laboreyo o in heme ta muzika, kel deve = segun id=E9a sonar che nokti klubes. "Radio Rekord" es un radio de Peterbur= g, e Peterburg es agnoskat kom kultural chef-urbe de Rusia (kuale mi memora= , Dmitri habita ibe). Do, li joke es poke in stile peterburgi: "In Barcel= ona du yun homes esev arestat pro ke ili vulnerav anima de un taxiste per s= u vidpunkte a kreativeso de tarda Picasso." Yen, tale in Peterburg on im= agina habitantes de Barcelona kom tre kulturoza e delikata homes. E ko skri= ba tu, Partaka? Nu, forsan ta sovajules es alkual imigrantes? O forsan on = deve konstruktar plu multa monkeries, pro ke forsan quanto de monkeries no = es suficianta e pro to potencial matres de tal specie no have posibleso dev= enar monkas? O forsan Popo no suficante informa popule pri tala beata metod= e de kontracepcione. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qual= evistandas" escribi=F3: En mei teritorie, existe virs, k= el aspekte simiatri, no nur fizikei, ma mem kondutei. Ils parle tro lautei,= krie, e frape violentozei, per sui manue ringozi, le table an olkel ils si= de por lude karte's. Ils aspekte kualei gorils adulti (plez le ver gorils p= ardon me!). Ho, kual pavor! Kual horor! Se me esere fem, me preferere dive= n monka kam bestio-spoza. (Ela Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7952 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:42:28 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2011 18:42:29.0043 (UTC) FILETIME=[6015E830:01CBF941] From: James Chandler Subject: Nova tradukuro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=Mgg4L04T0yeBzxQ5rSxU3llndrDeqD82-SICTCrBts8 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Kar amiki Recente me kelke tacas che Idolisto, ne plus sendante SKOLO-= mesaji, novajeti e cetere. Tamen me ne esis tote ne-aktiva, nam me dum rec= enta semani tradukis plusa esayo ek la verko 'Somero' da Albert Camus. La= nova (quaresma) esayo esas 'Kurta Guidilo pri Urbi sen Pasinto'. Ol esas = lejera voyajala naraco. Me esperas ke vi juos ol. La unesma parto sequos= . Kordiale From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7953 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:10:22 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2011 19:10:23.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[4637C1F0:01CBF945] From: James Chandler Subject: Kurta Guidilo pri Urbi sen Pasinto (1) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=YLM_x02Q5gqj8FHolECMlQeGNHxmeae73kPQEeKyHZs X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc KURTA GUIDILO PRI URBI SEN PASINTO da Albert Camus (1947) La dolceso= di Aljer es kelke italiana. La kruela brilego di Oran plu multe similesas= Hispania. Perchanta alte sur roko super la Rummel-ravini, Constantine pens= igas pri Toledo. Ma en Hispania ed Italia memori, verki artala e ruinaji e= dukiva abundegas. E Toledo havis sua Greco e sua Barre`s. L'urbi quin me = diskutos hike es, kontree, urbi sen pasinto. Urbi qui ofras nek repozo nek= tenereso. Kande la siesto-hori adportas sua tedo, esas nek kompato nek me= lankolio en lia tristeso. En la matin-lumo, o en la naturala luxo dil vesp= eri, lia delekti es, kontree, sen dolceso. Ica urbi donas nulo al mento ed= omno al pasioni. Li fitas nek sajeso nek la rafinaji di gusto. Barre`s e= simili aplastesus tilpece. (Duronta) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7954 Return-Path: X-Sender: aukland@... 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De plus, le lingue internasional debe atinger un grade de fasil= itate, regularitate e naturalitate macsimal. Sendt fra min iPad Den 11. a= pr. 2011 kl. 17:50 skrev "postamundi" : > Maxim ko= rdial saluto, p_M-ani! > > Yen nia frazo #29, ja tradukita > en la 3 sequa= nta LIA-sistemi: > Intal, Esperanto, Ido. > > Intal: > Un lingue konstrukt= at a posteriori dev adopta > ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim, >= le lingua international mus atinga le maksimum > de fasilit=C3=A9, regula= rit=C3=A9 e naturalit=C3=A9. > > Esperanto: > Lingvo konstruita aposterior= e devas elekti > tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, > la int= ernacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn > facilecon, regularecon kaj = naturecon. > > Ido: > Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas adoptar > ti= vorti, qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, > la linguo internaciona mustas at= ingar la maxima > facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso. > > E nun, se posibla= , voluntez tradukar nia frazo #29 > aden plusa LIA-sistemi por ke ni povez = pokope > plugrandigar nia listo relatanta til kompletigar olca. > > Adavan= e, kolegaro! > > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > >= --Apple-Mail-15-59465805 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
ARIEL:
Un lingue construite = a posterior debe adoptar paroles ce jam son internasional. De plus, le ling= ue internasional debe atinger un grade de fasilitate, regularitate e natura= litate macsimal.

Sendt fra min iPad

Den 11. apr. 2011 = kl. 17:50 skrev "postamundi" <= chepartaka@...>:

 

Maxim kordial saluto, p_M-ani!
<= br> Yen nia frazo #29, ja tradukita
en la 3 sequanta LIA-sistemi:
I= ntal, Esperanto, Ido.

Intal:
Un lingue konstruktat a posterior= i dev adopta
ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim,
le lingua= international mus atinga le maksimum
de fasilit=C3=A9, regularit=C3= =A9 e naturalit=C3=A9.

Esperanto:
Lingvo konstruita aposterior= e devas elekti
tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie,
la= internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn
facilecon, regulareco= n kaj naturecon.

Ido:
Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas = adoptar
ti vorti, qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse,
la linguo intern= aciona mustas atingar la maxima
facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso.
=
E nun, se posibla, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #29
aden plusa LIA-= sistemi por ke ni povez pokope
plugrandigar nia listo relatanta til kom= pletigar olca.

Adavane, kolegaro!

* * * * * * * *
p= a r t a k a
* * * * * * * *

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Ci es li traduction del frase 29 in Interlingue (Occ= idental): Un lingue constructet a posteriori deve adopter ti paroles quele= s ja es international. Adplu li lingue international deve atinger li max po= ssibil facilit=E1, regularit=E1 e naturalit=E1. Amicalmen Thomas --- En= posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > >= Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: > > Voluntez atencar nia frazo #29, qua = ja > tradukesis aden la 5 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > Intal, Esperanto, Ido, Ld= P, Populido. > > > Intal: > Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta= > ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim, > le lingua international mu= s atinga le maksimum > de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. > > Esp= eranto: > Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti > tiujn vortojn kiuj j= am estas internaciaj. Plie, > la internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej gra= ndajn > facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon. > > Ido: > Linguo konstrukti= ta aposteriorie devas adoptar > ti vorti, qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, = > la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la maxima > facileso, regulozeso e = naturaleso. > > LdP: > Lingwa konstrukten aposteriori majbur adopti > toy = wordas kel yo es internasion-ney. Yoshi, > internasion-ney lingwa mus ateni= maximale > fasilitaa, regularitaa e naturalitaa. > > Populido: > Ling kon= struktat aposteriori dev adopte > ti vorts, kel ja ese internationi. Plusei= , > le ling internationi must atinge le maxim > faciles, regulozes e natura= les. > > > Se vi povas e deziras lo, me pregas vi tradukar > nia frazo #2= 9 aden plusa LIA-sistemi: Interlingua, > Occidental/Interlingue, Novial, Id= iom Neutral, Neo, > Volap=FCk, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, edc. > > Dank= o e predanko pri via intereso e kunlaboro. > > > * * * * * * * * > p a r= t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7957 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Intal: Un lingue konstruktat a posterio= ri dev adopta ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim, le lingua interna= tional mus atinga le maksimum de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. = Esperanto: Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti tiujn vortojn kiuj ja= m estas internaciaj. Plie, la internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej granda= jn facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon. Ido: Linguo konstruktita aposteri= orie devas adoptar ti vorti, qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, la linguo int= ernaciona mustas atingar la maxima facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso. Occi= dental/Interlingue: Un lingue constructet a posteriori deve adopter ti par= oles queles ja es international. Adplu li lingue international deve atinge= r li max possibil facilit=E1, regularit=E1 e naturalit=E1. ARIEL: Un ling= ue construite a posterior debe adoptar paroles ce jam son internasional. D= e plus, le lingue internasional debe atinger un grade de fasilitate, regu= laritate e naturalitate macsimal. LdP: Lingwa konstrukten aposteriori majb= ur adopti toy wordas kel yo es internasion-ney. Yoshi, internasion-ney ling= wa mus ateni maximale fasilitaa, regularitaa e naturalitaa. Populido: Ling= konstruktat aposteriori dev adopte ti vorts, kel ja ese internationi. Plus= ei, le ling internationi must atinge le maxim faciles, regulozes e naturale= s. Se vi povas e deziras lo, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo #29 aden plu= sa LIA-sistemi: Interlingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Neo, Volap=FCk, Glosa, = LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, edc. Danko ed adavane, amiki! * * * * * * * * p = a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7959 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:20:49 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2011 18:20:51.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[84D41E00:01CBFA07] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: Kurta Guidilo pri Urbi sen Pasinto (2) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=wLMRl_K9Gy6G2kTCkkZYo5rC44OvIUHndPcac3P-XmQ X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc KURTA GUIDILO PRI URBI SEN PASINTO da Albert Camus (1947) Pasionoza = voyajeri (dil pasioni di altri), tro-sentiva menti, asteti e nove mariajati= ganos nulo per vizitar Aljer. Ed ecepte a ta qua havas vokeso absoluta, e= sas rekomendinda a nulu retretar e lojar ibe por sempre. Kelkafoye en Pari= s, kande homi quin me estimas questionas me pri Aljer, me volas klamar: "Ne= irez ad-ibe." Tala joko kontenas kelka vereso. Nam me vidas to quon li e= xpektas e me savas ke li ne obtenos ol. E, samtempe, me konocas la charmi = e la subtila povo di ca lando, lua insinuanta teno ye ti qui restas hike, q= uale ol senmovigas li, unesme per senquestionigar li, e fine per bersar li = tildorme en la omnadiala vivo. (Duronta) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7960 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40854 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2011 19:41:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2011 19:41:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc2-s39.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.54.61.90) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2011 19:41:25 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W52 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s39.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:41:24 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:41:24 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2011 19:41:24.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5ECFFF0:01CBFA12] From: James Chandler Subject: Eroro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=rmMciD1EGAxbJpilYzao2XfZRpOMjLx0-fI_tJDC-zo X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc > Pasionoza voyajeri (dil pasioni di altri), tro-sentiva menti, asteti as= teti -> *esteti (Ido ne havas apta vorto, do me propozas *esteto) = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7961 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41389 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2011 13:34:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2011 13:34:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2011 13:34:33 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 13:34:33 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 13:34:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:34:33 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] Simiatri virs X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=L3l8RPJRsEG7G4IsqlRoScYBmmkDWzYZjQGwJ5JG4KwNIYaCxF84rYWC9XZc X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Ho, versimile Radio Rekord (e mi kunim) audiav parlo, ma no save, kuale tra= ktar lo. Nun, kande mi saveskav, ke li taxiste esev direktoro del muzeum an= te li krize, li joke no plu sembla drola, nam isto es trista. Rosto. ---= En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escr= ibi=F3: > > Bon, me no referabe precizei a Barcelona, > ma ank en Barcelona= me spektab le simiaje's > da ti sorte de homs, kel semble reprezente > le = famoz "(katen-)mash mankanti" en le feld > evolutional den simie a hom. En = grand urbe > kual Barcelona on ya pove trove irgi koz, ka no? > Mem "le (ka= ten-)mash(o) mankanta". E mem > taxi-konduktor sentivi pri Picasso (bon jok= !). > (To ko no revelab le jok de "Radio Rekord" es, > ke tal konduktor esa= b, pre le prezent krize, > le direktor del muzeh Picasso en Barcelona) :-= ) > (Partaka) > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7964 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 31822 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2011 15:01:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m17.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2011 15:01:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2011 15:01:05 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 15:01:05 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 15:01:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:01:04 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=imXR9GQMURJjaE6APJJTv9ePQsYvJTsffOKAZYjylDl68QZohZshNJ02_56k X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Sibelingua: Un lingua konstruktat a posteriori deve adoptar ta paroles kel = ja es internacional. Plusim, li lingua internacional deve atingar li maximu= m de facilitate, regularitate e naturalitate. Tamen, homes, imagina ke vi = uzav un temporal mashine e nun vi in 2030 yare. E vi vide ke omna-loke in l= i munde on uza un konstruktat a posteriori neutral internacional auxilara l= ingua. On studia it in skoles e uza it in radio e televizione. Ma ta lingua= es ne tre facila e ne tre regulara. Eske vi komensara kriar: "Cesa uzar is= ta nekorekta lingua! No uza it! Vi deve uzar un altra lingua, kel es maxim = facila e regulara!" Yen ke, vice ista longa fraze #29 mi prefere un altra,= plu kurta e justa: "Habemus LIA!" Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroup= s.com, "postamundi" escribi=F3: > > Estimata posta_Mundi-a= ni: > > Voluntez itere admirar nia frazo #29, qua ja > tradukesis aden la = 7 sequanta LIA-sistemi: > Intal, Esperanto, Ido, Occidental/Interlingue, > = ARIEL, LdP, Populido. > > > Intal: > Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori d= ev adopta > ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim, > le lingua interna= tional mus atinga le maksimum > de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9.= > > Esperanto: > Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti > tiujn vorto= jn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, > la internacia lingvo devas atingi la= plej grandajn > facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon. > > Ido: > Linguo k= onstruktita aposteriorie devas adoptar > ti vorti, qui ja esas internaciona= . Pluse, > la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la maxima > facileso, regu= lozeso e naturaleso. > > Occidental/Interlingue: > Un lingue constructet a= posteriori deve adopter > ti paroles queles ja es international. Adplu >= li lingue international deve atinger li max possibil > facilit=E1, regula= rit=E1 e naturalit=E1. > > ARIEL: > Un lingue construite a posterior debe = adoptar > paroles ce jam son internasional. De plus, > le lingue internas= ional debe atinger un grade > de fasilitate, regularitate e naturalitate m= acsimal. > > LdP: > Lingwa konstrukten aposteriori majbur adopti > toy wor= das kel yo es internasion-ney. Yoshi, > internasion-ney lingwa mus ateni ma= ximale > fasilitaa, regularitaa e naturalitaa. > > Populido: > Ling konstr= uktat aposteriori dev adopte > ti vorts, kel ja ese internationi. Plusei, >= le ling internationi must atinge le maxim > faciles, regulozes e naturales= . > > > Se vi povas e deziras lo, me pregas vi tradukar > nia frazo #29 a= den plusa LIA-sistemi: Interlingua, > Novial, Idiom Neutral, Neo, Volap=FCk= , Glosa, LFN, > Mondlango/Ulango, edc. > > Danko ed adavane, amiki! > > = > * * * * * * * * > p a r t a k a > * * * * * * * * > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7965 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61443 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2011 18:34:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2011 18:34:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n4-vm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (67.195.135.100) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2011 18:34:00 -0000 X-Received: from [67.195.134.49] by n4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 18:34:00 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by t2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 18:34:00 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.72] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 18:34:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:33:59 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: [MM] Simiatri virs X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=MZX8-H_iqIsV7On99L18Xy_BYit_wqKWgyu6gskRJvScTDtfXP50Nmc X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Me ya pove kompren, ke l' jok no plus es drol, se l' taxi-konduktor sentiv= i pri Picasso esab ex-direktor del muzeh Picasso en Barcelona; ma, pro ko t= o esere trist? Lu simplei chanjab sui labor, mem se koaktat per le krize. P= osei, kom taxi-konduktora, nam lu esab direktora, lu povere deskovre, ke lu= es plu felis kam pre. Ka no posibli? Pro ko labor per taxi esere trist? (P= artaka) --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribab: Ho, versimile Radio Rekord (e mi kunim) audiav parlo, ma n= o save, kuale traktar lo. Nun, kande mi saveskav, ke li taxiste esev direkt= oro del muzeum ante li krize, li joke no plu sembla drola, nam isto es tris= ta. Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: Bon, me no referabe precizei a Barcelona, ma ank= en Barcelona me spektab le simiaje's da ti sorte de homs, kel semble repre= zente le famoz "(katen-)mash mankanti" en le feld evolutional den simie a h= om. En grand urbe kual Barcelona on ya pove trove irgi koz, ka no? Mem "le = (katen-)mash(o) mankanta". E mem taxi-konduktor sentivi pri Picasso (bon jo= k!). (To ko no revelab le jok de "Radio Rekord" es, ke tal konduktor esab, = pre le prezent krize, le direktor del muzeh Picasso en Barcelona) :-) (Pa= rtaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7966 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... X-Apparently-To: posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43093 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2011 19:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2011 19:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO snt0-omc2-s12.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.87) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2011 19:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from SNT103-W28 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s12.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:41:06 -0700 Message-ID: Return-Path: idojc@... To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:41:05 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Apr 2011 19:41:06.0931 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5BC8430:01CBFADB] From: James Chandler Subject: Kurta Guidilo pri Urbi sen Pasinto (3) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=GP1PTuTfxmmXDFZxyW0lmGcaPPQMAzbMughe_isDkJU X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc KURTA GUIDILO PRI URBI SEN PASINTO da Albert Camus (1947) Kande la l= umo frapas on, tante brileganta ke ol divenas nigra-e-blanka, on preske ces= as respirar. On cedas ad ol, repozas en ol, e lore on konstatas ke ca tro = longa splendideso ofras nulo al anmo ed es nur ecesiva delekto. On lore de= zirus retroturnar al mento. Ma la homi di ca lando, e to es lia forteso, s= emblas plu forta kordie kam mente. Li povas esar onua amiki (e quala amiki= !), ma on povas nultempe dicar a li onua sekreti. To povus konsideresar ko= m timiganta hike en Paris, ube on ekvarsas sua anmo tante prodige ed ube l'= aquo de sekreti fluas mole e senfine inter la fonteni, statui e gardeni. = (Duronta) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7967 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6047 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2011 21:45:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m4.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Apr 2011 21:45:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2011 21:45:28 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 21:45:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.32] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2011 21:45:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:45:28 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "ila_mesajero" Subject: [VIDEO] Latina - Destructio Destructionum **** X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=kfDgvy49TUBl1et2bZIVbZy07Bu7lfDzbsnTmXprbTahzGE-Nt6h X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero & & & & & & & & & & & & Latina - Destructio Destructionum (5' 10'') ***= * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTZwFVG3CHA4 & & & & & & & & & & & & = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7968 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99483 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2011 01:00:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.106) by m15.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2011 01:00:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2011 01:00:47 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2011 01:00:45 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2011 01:00:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 01:00:44 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=lOtPS9ZW5Mno-nFA2DGMjtIZirx4gMvb80-PWQ2rPojgy0nXqE3pCOo X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Bon jorno, p_M-ani! Yen ankor-foye nia frazo #29, qua, til nun, tradukesis= aden la 8 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Intal, Esperanto, Ido, Occidental/Interlin= gue, Sibelingua, ARIEL, LdP, Populido. Intal: Un lingue konstruktat a pos= teriori dev adopta ti vorte's kel ja es international. Plusim, le lingua in= ternational mus atinga le maksimum de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit= =E9. Esperanto: Lingvo konstruita aposteriore devas elekti tiujn vortojn k= iuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, la internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej = grandajn facilecon, regularecon kaj naturecon. Ido: Linguo konstruktita ap= osteriorie devas adoptar ta vorti, qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, la ling= uo internaciona mustas atingar la maxima facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso.= Occidental/Interlingue: Un lingue constructet a posteriori deve adopter t= i paroles queles ja es international. Adplu li lingue international deve at= inger li max possibil facilit=E1, regularit=E1 e naturalit=E1. Sibelingua:= Un lingua konstruktat a posteriori deve adoptar ta paroles kel ja es inter= nacional. Plusim, li lingua internacional deve atingar li maximum de facili= tate, regularitate e naturalitate. ARIEL: Un lingue construite a posterior= debe adoptar paroles ce jam son internasional. De plus, le lingue internas= ional debe atinger un grade de fasilitate, regularitate e naturalitate macs= imal. LdP: Lingwa konstrukten aposteriori majbur adopti toy wordas kel yo = es internasion-ney. Yoshi, internasion-ney lingwa mus ateni maximale fasili= taa, regularitaa e naturalitaa. Populido: Ling konstruktat aposteriori dev= adopte ti vorts, kel ja ese internationi. Plusei, le ling internationi mus= t atinge le maxim faciles, regulozes e naturales. Se vi povas e deziras l= o, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #29 aden plusa LIA-sistemi: Interlingua, Nov= ial, Idiom Neutral, Neo, Volap=FCk, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, od irg al= tra neutra helpo-lingui. Danko, predanko ed adavane, estimati! * * * * *= * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7970 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79485 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2011 10:20:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2011 10:20:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2011 10:20:32 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2011 10:20:32 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2011 10:20:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:20:32 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: [MM] Piscin e kantin X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=KRrLk1sL5TNeIx_IQGymiNDcze6nh5hKiZYaq6_tzioWf2P14guEjcg X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Le piscin esabe proxim le kantin. Pos balne, me irab ek le piscin, e pos vi= she me subsunei, me irab al kantin. Ibei, me lektab afishe: "No permisat ir= en le kantin ped-nudi, sen kamiz o kun balne-vest". Me kuik reaktab respek= tozei: me metabe mei bots, metabe mei kamiz, desmetabe mei mikri balne-vest= , ed enirabe le kantin. Ho-la-la! Ka to adver eventab a me od a Nasrudin? := -) (Partaka) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7971 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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Quar angu= li, quar homi. Tri posh-telefonili. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= * * * * * * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7973 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92221 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2011 04:40:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2011 04:40:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2011 04:40:49 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.172] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2011 04:40:48 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t14.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2011 04:40:48 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 04:40:47 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "r0st0" Subject: RE: [MM] Simiatri virs X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=420419030; y=9gxVVcQ4otAxj5paqo2XgxGT8s8ai4Wa0HNKJaiiyDN7D-Djbl3KGFoqOO_Z X-Yahoo-Profile: r0st0 Mi nun vizitav oficial ret-sit=FAe del muzeum de Picasso. E vere, lei tarda= ovres es tante leda! Pos ke mi videv to, nul tristeso plu mi senta. If li = muzeum de Salvador Dali havud problemas, isto esud trista. E pri Picasso mi= no senta kompato. Kun surrealisti salutes - Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@= yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" escribi=F3: > > Me y= a pove kompren, ke l' jok no plus es drol, > se l' taxi-konduktor sentivi = pri Picasso esab > ex-direktor del muzeh Picasso en Barcelona; > ma, pro ko= to esere trist? Lu simplei chanjab > sui labor, mem se koaktat per le kriz= e. Posei, > kom taxi-konduktora, nam lu esab direktora, > lu povere deskovr= e, ke lu es plu felis kam pre. > Ka no posibli? Pro ko labor per taxi esere= trist? > (Partaka) > > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7976 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Ibei, me lektab afishe: = > "No permisat ir en le kantin ped-nudi, > sen kamiz o kun balne-vest". Me = kuik > reaktab respektozei: me metabe mei bots, > metabe mei kamiz, desmeta= be mei mikri > balne-vest, ed enirabe le kantin. Ho-la-la! > Ka to adver ev= entab a me od a Nasrudin? :-) > (Partaka) > From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7977 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55144 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2011 10:10:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m8.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2011 10:10:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n37b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.151) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2011 10:10:18 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n37.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2011 10:10:18 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2011 10:10:18 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:10:18 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: [NOVAJI] Nova inquesto en posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=PCRjORO_9AA7rcDOeWLDksgaSWiQ4SQHHKNBIg3-1xTAVb-GNcfEj1E X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Bon jorno, amiki! Yen ke kreesis nova inquesto en posta_Mundi: Kel piktor= ex ista du vu plu aprecia? o Salvador Dali o Pablo Picasso o Aprecia a= mba egale o Amba no es interesanta por me Por votar, voluntez vizitar la= sequanta e-adreso http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/polls Da= nko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7978 Return-Path: X-Sender: chepartaka@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98025 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2011 17:18:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2011 17:18:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2011 17:18:29 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.148] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2011 17:18:27 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.35.12] by t11.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2011 17:18:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:18:26 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=vMilExSJ_fAFYj5C0JGczDQHjmh4c74biNserG0rM-nT82NKJswe8hI X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Hola, Rosto! On tre facile povas intelektar la pro quo dil frazo del amiko= Weferling en Intal, nam ilu skribas pri to quon il konsideras esar advere = lo maxim bona por obtenar la suceso. Tamen, me certesas ke l'amiko Weferli= ng joyus mem se la neutra helpo-linguo internaciona triumfonta esus difikul= ta (quale la Vietnamana), desreguloza e desnatural, nam lo maxim grava esus= , ke neutra helpo-linguo tandem aceptesis ed uzesas kom komuna idiomo dil t= ota mondo. Do, anke Weferling joyegus, ke ni "Habemus LIA". Danko pro tu= a tradukuro de nia frazo #29 aden Sibelingua, quan me quik adjuntis en mea = maxim recenta listo. Ni expektez plusa versioni en altra LIA-sistemi, qui n= e ja reprezentesis en la suba listo, qua montras omna tradukuri tilnuna. A= davane nia frazo #29! P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mun= di@yahoogroups.com, "r0st0" skribis: Sibelingua= : Un lingua konstruktat a posteriori deve adoptar ta paroles kel ja es inte= rnacional. Plusim, li lingua internacional deve atingar li maximum de facil= itate, regularitate e naturalitate. Tamen, homes, imagina ke vi uzav un t= emporal mashine e nun vi in 2030 yare. E vi vide ke omna-loke in li munde o= n uza un konstruktat a posteriori neutral internacional auxilara lingua. On= studia it in skoles e uza it in radio e televizione. Ma ta lingua es ne tr= e facila e ne tre regulara. Eske vi komensara kriar: "Cesa uzar ista nekore= kta lingua! No uza it! Vi deve uzar un altra lingua, kel es maxim facila e = regulara!" Yen ke, vice ista longa fraze #29 mi prefere un altra, plu kur= ta e justa: "Habemus LIA!" Rosto. --- En posta_Mundi@...= m, "postamundi" escribi=F3: Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Volu= ntez itere admirar nia frazo #29, qua ja tradukesis aden la 7 sequanta LIA-= sistemi: Intal, Esperanto, Ido, Occidental/Interlingue, ARIEL, LdP, Populid= o. Intal: Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta ti vorte's kel = ja es international. Plusim, le lingua international mus atinga le maksimum= de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. Esperanto: Lingvo konstruita= aposteriore devas elekti tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, l= a internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn facilecon, regularecon ka= j naturecon. Ido: Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas adoptar ta vorti= , qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la= maxima facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso. Occidental/Interlingue: Un lin= gue constructet a posteriori deve adopter ti paroles queles ja es internat= ional. Adplu li lingue international deve atinger li max possibil facilit= =E1, regularit=E1 e naturalit=E1. ARIEL: Un lingue construite a posterior= debe adoptar paroles ce jam son internasional. De plus, le lingue intern= asional debe atinger un grade de fasilitate, regularitate e naturalitate m= acsimal. LdP: Lingwa konstrukten aposteriori majbur adopti toy wordas kel= yo es internasion-ney. Yoshi, internasion-ney lingwa mus ateni maximale fa= silitaa, regularitaa e naturalitaa. Populido: Ling konstruktat aposterior= i dev adopte ti vorts, kel ja ese internationi. Plusei, le ling internation= i must atinge le maxim faciles, regulozes e naturales. Se vi povas e dez= iras lo, me pregas vi tradukar nia frazo #29 aden plusa LIA-sistemi: Interl= ingua, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Neo, Volap=FCk, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango= , edc. Danko ed adavane, amiki! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * *= * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7980 Return-Path: X-Sender: rostislav-levchenko@... 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Mi krede, ke forumanes = pova skribar multe in ista pajine in diversa IALes irga-speci. (If vi in to= te no es kontre tal afere) Rosto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7981 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35748 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2011 00:22:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m16.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2011 00:22:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2011 00:22:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 00:22:41 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 00:22:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:22:41 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: RE: [NOVAJI] Nova inquesto en posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=q5dcJmG_TDXETnbAhKC3ta-TngHc8s5Of9zLXGiM62wb5vZCYUXU8JM X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Karega posta_Mundi-ani: Ni omna invitesas partoprenar nova inquesto, kreit= a dal amiko Rosto, per votar pri du piktisti: 1) Ka ni preferas Salvador D= al=ED? 2) Ka ni preferas Pablo Picasso? 3) Ka ni prizas amba piktisti same?= 4) Kad amba piktisti ne esas interesanta por ni? Voluntez partoprenar nia= inquesto per simple indikar via prefero, tote anonime, che l' fako "Sondeo= s" (Inquesti) dil forumo posta_Mundi, ube vi anke trovos du plusa inquesti = apertita, quin vi (maxim aparte nia maxim nova membri) anke povas partopren= ar, se vi ne ja votis: 1) Voluntez indikar via preferata LIA (inquesto q= ua ja partoprenesis da 31 membri) 2) Voluntez indikar via yuna/nova LIA (= inquesto qua ja partoprenesis da 14 membri) Yen la ligilo qua duktas a nia= trio de inquesti: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/polls Max= im kordial saluto a vi omna, kamaradi! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * *= * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: Bon jorno, amiki! Yen ke kreesis nova inquesto e= n posta_Mundi: Kel piktor ex ista du vu plu aprecia? o Salvador Dali = o Pablo Picasso o Aprecia amba egale o Amba no es interesanta por me P= or votar, voluntez vizitar la sequanta e-adreso http://es.groups.yahoo.co= m/group/posta_Mundi/polls Danko pro via atenco. P A R T A K A * * * = * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7984 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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To: Idolisto , ido-angla , posta_mundi Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:00:39 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2011 11:00:40.0545 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0996510:01CBFCEE] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: Kurta Guidilo pri Urbi sen Pasinto (4) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=cvKzG2efNuqLjyaDkTn5dS34h9wXCDk8pp_8QL-62k8 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc KURTA GUIDILO PRI URBI SEN PASINTO da Albert Camus (1947) Ica lando = maxime similesas Hispania. Ma sen tradicioni, Hispania esus nur bela dezer= to. Ed ecepte se li naskis ibe, esas nur un hom-raso qui povas konsiderar = retretar por sempre al dezerto. Nam me naskis en ca dezerto, me omnakaze n= e povas konsiderar pridiskutar ol kom vizitanto. Kad on povas kontar la ch= armi di kare amorata muliero? No, on amoras el integre, se me darfas expre= sar lo tale, kun un o du preciza motivi por tenereso, exemple favorata muze= lo, o partikulara maniero sukusar la kapo. Me tale havas longe-duranta amo= r-afero kun Aljeria, quo sendubite nultempe finos, e quo preventas me esar = tote lucida. Talkaze on povas nur, perservere, facar abstrakta listo di to= quon on amoras pri to quon on amoras. Esas ica akademial exerco quan me p= ovas entraprezar hike pri Aljeria. (Duronta) From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7986 Return-Path: X-Sender: idojc@... 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To: posta_mundi Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:50:10 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2011 11:50:10.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AD0E6C0:01CBFCF5] X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: James Chandler Subject: RE: [posta_Mundi] Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=Az8dZKUGcitLOog5HzojmZYUNX0Lm1tuZl4VnVwkAkc X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc Novial: Lingue konstruktet aposteriorim deve adopta ti vordes, kel ja es i= nternational. Plusim, li lingue international mus atene li maximi fasilita= te, reglaritate e naturaleso. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7987 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42266 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2011 12:10:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m7.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2011 12:10:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.158) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2011 12:10:44 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.151] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 12:10:44 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t5.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 12:10:43 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:10:41 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "qualevistandas" Subject: RE: Nova ligilo che posta_Mundi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=bfgL9jG8mLDOj4xh4BeMpCynfmXDybWsMT2XyFQ_uRGKu8y9mpTDji0 X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas Bon jorno, kolegaro! E yen ke l'amiko Rosto jus kreabas plusa ligilo che l= ' fako "Marcadores" (Ligili) dil forumo posta_Mundi. La ligilo precize titu= lizesas "posta_Mundi.ial.wikia", ed ol permisas diret aceso ad artiklo info= rmanta pri nia posta_Mundi, publikigita en Wikia: http://es.groups.yahoo.= com/group/posta_Mundi/links Vi omna standez bone! P A R T A K A * * * * = * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: Estimata posta_Mundi-ani: Por ti qui ne ja saveski= s, yen ke l'amiko Rosto kreabas nova ligilo che l' fako "Marcadores" (Ligi= li) dil grupo posta_Mundi. La ligilo titulizesas "Jurnal POSTA MUNDI", ed= ol permisas direte acesar omna numeri di nia nova jurnalo inter IAL per ap= arta e-adreso: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/links Me ce= rtesas ke ta ligilo esos advere utila. Til balde! P A R T A K A * * *= * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7988 Return-Path: X-Sender: andoromeda83@... X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75556 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2011 16:25:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44) by m6.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2011 16:25:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2011 16:25:49 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.149] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 16:25:49 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.33] by t9.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 16:25:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:25:48 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: "Dorothea" Subject: RE: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=297638457; y=AgMol71kEGVzPPy8r4tbtASDaJAwdf8s-woPIiLgH1wwkI0-ZwGy X-Yahoo-Profile: andoromeda83 Amiki kar amiki de lingui internasional! Mi av traduked fras 29 in lingu I= diom Neutral: Idiom Neutral: Lingu konstrued a posterior deb adoptar el p= aroli, keli ya es internasional. Ekstr it lingu internasional deb atinar le= plu posibl fasilitet, regularitet e naturalitet. Ko saluti kordial Doro = From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7989 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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Semblas a me bona ed interesiva ideo, ke tu adjuntis = artiklo pri posta_Mundi che "ial.wikia", e ke tu invitas ni omna skribar e = kunlaborar ibe per nia diversa LIA-sistemi. (Parenteze: en tua artiklo, tu = obliviabas inkluzar kelka helpo-lingui, qui anke uzesis ed/od uzesas en nia= forumo: Glosa, Ikuso, Latino sine Flexione, LFN, Mondlango, Neo, Omnial, = Romanica, Romanova, Sambahsa, edc). Quale tu kreis iba ligilo aden la foru= mo posta_Mundi, tale anke, forsan, tu povus krear ligilo duktant a nia jurn= alo inter-IAL, POSTA MUNDI, quan tu mencionas. Gratuli ed adavane, Rostu! = P A R T A K A * * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com, = "r0st0" skribis: Mi komensav http://ial.wikia.co= m/wiki/Posta_Mundi . Mi krede, ke forumanes pova skribar multe in ista paj= ine in diversa IALes irga-speci.(If vi in tote no es kontre tal afere) R= osto. From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7990 Return-Path: X-Sender: ila_mesajero@... 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X-Apparently-To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40678 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2011 23:20:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.107) by m13.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2011 23:20:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.154) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2011 23:20:29 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.147] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 23:20:28 -0000 X-Received: from [98.137.34.36] by t10.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 23:20:28 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 23:20:27 -0000 To: posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose From: "postamundi" Subject: Frazo #29 (tradukuri) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211083072; y=uTepw33L3Rgx8WfGWiRFMzjEYYlyGK5up_HNke1KL_ES2hJMT3uLmzU X-Yahoo-Profile: postamundi Kar amiki dil grupo posta_Mundi: Voluntez ankor-foye admirar nia frazo #29= , til nun tradukita en la 10 sequanta LIA-sistemi: Intal, Esperanto, Ido, O= ccidental/Interlingue, Novial, Idiom Neutral, Sibelingua, ARIEL, LdP, Popul= ido. Intal: Un lingue konstruktat a posteriori dev adopta ti vorte's kel = ja es international. Plusim, le lingua international mus atinga le maksimum= de fasilit=E9, regularit=E9 e naturalit=E9. Esperanto: Lingvo konstruita = aposteriore devas elekti tiujn vortojn kiuj jam estas internaciaj. Plie, la= internacia lingvo devas atingi la plej grandajn facilecon, regularecon kaj= naturecon. Ido: Linguo konstruktita aposteriorie devas adoptar ta vorti, = qui ja esas internaciona. Pluse, la linguo internaciona mustas atingar la m= axima facileso, regulozeso e naturaleso. Occidental/Interlingue: Un lingue= constructet a posteriori deve adopter ti paroles queles ja es internationa= l. Adplu li lingue international deve atinger li max possibil facilit=E1, r= egularit=E1 e naturalit=E1. Novial: Lingue konstruktet aposteriorim deve a= dopta ti vordes, kel ja es international. Plusim, li lingue international = mus atene li maximi fasilitate, reglaritate e naturaleso. Idiom Neutral: L= ingu konstrued a posterior deb adoptar el paroli, keli ya es internasional= . Ekstr it lingu internasional deb atinar leplu posibl fasilitet, regular= itet e naturalitet. Sibelingua: Un lingua konstruktat a posteriori deve ad= optar ta paroles kel ja es internacional. Plusim, li lingua internacional d= eve atingar li maximum de facilitate, regularitate e naturalitate. ARIEL: = Un lingue construite a posterior debe adoptar paroles ce jam son internasio= nal. De plus, le lingue internasional debe atinger un grade de fasilitate, = regularitate e naturalitate macsimal. LdP: Lingwa konstrukten aposteriori = majbur adopti toy wordas kel yo es internasion-ney. Yoshi, internasion-ney = lingwa mus ateni maximale fasilitaa, regularitaa e naturalitaa. Populido: = Ling konstruktat aposteriori dev adopte ti vorts, kel ja ese internationi. = Plusei, le ling internationi must atinge le maxim faciles, regulozes e natu= rales. Se vi povas e deziras lo, voluntez tradukar nia frazo #29 aden plu= sa LIA-sistemi: Interlingua, Neo, Volap=FCk, Glosa, LFN, Mondlango/Ulango, = od irg altra neutra helpo-lingui, quin vi konocas. Adavane, posta_Mundi-a= ni! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 7992 Return-Path: X-Sender: qualevistandas@... 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(e instruktiva?)= Me deziras adjuntar, ke me tre juis ta verko. Gratulas Ralph. = ----- Original Message ----- >From: Partaka >To: idocatalaoccitan@yaho= ogroups.com ; idolisto@yahoogroups.com ; >posta_mundi@yahoogroups.com > >= Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:40 AM >Subject: [idolisto] Re: [NOVAJI] = Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA" > > >Respektinda kolegaro: > >Yen ke "= Habemus LIA" enretigesis preske un monato >ante nun, e me prizus realiga= r mikra inquesto inter vi >pri ta verko cienco-fiktiva, quan me skriptis= originale >per Ido, e quan me erste recente povis prizentar bloke. >Se = posibla, voluntez respondizar la sequanta questioni: > >1) Ka vi lektis = "Habemus LIA" mesajope che nia forumi? >2) Ka vi parlektis la versiono d= il romano "Habemus LIA", >recente enretigita kom PDF-dokumento? >3) Ka v= i projetas lektar ol dum ica Pasko-tempo (o pose)? > >Se vi ja lektis la= tota verko, me pregas vi respondar a me: > >1) Quanta horin vi spensis = por parlektar "Habemus LIA"? >2) Ka vi bone komprenis mea Ido e la konte= najo dil verko? >3) Kad ulo remarkinda, quon vi deziras adjuntar? > >Me = predankas vi omna por via grava kunlaboro. > >Standez bone! > >P A R T A= K A >* * * * * * * * * > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - >ht= tp://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - > >>>>>>>> > >Estimata samid= eani ed amiki en la tota mondo: > >Per ica mesajo, me maxim volunte dezi= ras informar >vi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi mea original >Ido= -verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumeento, >qua, segun semblo, esas ja di= sponebla, lektebla >e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kasper, qua enretigis = ol: > >http://www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf > >Me deziras maxim = bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna, >e sendas a vi mea maxim kordial ed am= ikal saluto >del urbo Barcelona. > >P A R T A K A >* * * * * * * * * > >= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi - >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/= IdoCatalaOccitan - > > --0-1450628296-1303139908=:65614 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Mesajo da Ralph Midgley, che Idolisto)

 
=

=EF=BB=BF

1a)  &nb= sp; Yes;
2a)  &= nbsp; Yes;
3a)  = ;  Ne
 <= /div>
1b)    Proxime ki= n;
2b)    = Yes;
3b)   = ; La karaktarizi di la Volap=C3=BCkisto e la Esperantisto esis bona; = forsan la enpozo anke di adheranti di altra lingui internaciona esabus am= uziva? (e instruktiva?)   
 
Me deziras adjuntar, ke me tre juis ta verko. 
 
Gratulas Ralph.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Partaka
= Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:40 AM
Subject: [idolisto] Re: [NOVAJ= I] Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA"

 = ;

Respektinda kolegaro:

Yen ke= "Habemus LIA" enretigesis preske un monato
ante nun, e me prizus rea= ligar mikra inquesto inter vi
pri ta verko cienco-fiktiva, quan me sk= riptis originale
per Ido, e quan me erste recente povis prizentar blo= ke.
Se posibla, voluntez respondizar la sequanta questioni:

1)= Ka vi lektis "Habemus LIA" mesajope che nia forumi?
2) Ka vi parlekt= is la versiono dil romano "Habemus LIA",
recente enretigita kom PDF-d= okumento?
3) Ka vi projetas lektar ol dum ica Pasko-tempo (o pose)?
Se vi ja lektis la tota verko, me pregas vi respondar a me:
1) Quanta horin vi spensis por parlektar "Habemus LIA"?
2) Ka vi bon= e komprenis mea Ido e la kontenajo dil verko?
3) Kad ulo remarkinda, = quon vi deziras adjuntar?

Me predankas vi omna por via grava kunl= aboro.

Standez bone!

P A R T A K A
* * * * * * * * *
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
<= a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/= IdoCatalaOccitan">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
>>>>>>>

Estimata samideani ed amiki en la= tota mondo:

Per ica mesajo, me maxim volunte deziras informarvi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi mea original
Ido-verko, "Ha= bemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento,
qua, segun semblo, esas ja disponebla,= lektebla
e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kasper, qua enretigis ol:
=
http://www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf
Me deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna,
e sendas a vi me= a maxim kordial ed amikal saluto
del urbo Barcelona.

P A R T A= K A
* * * * * * * * *

http://groups.yahoo.com/g= roup/posta_Mundi -
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(Mesajo da Hermann Philipps, che Idolisto)

 
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Kara Partaka,

me okazionale lektis singla sequaji di 'Habem= us LIA', ma me intencas
lektar la toto ye ul tempo plu tarda, forsan d= um la venonta pasko-dii,
se la vetero ne luras me ad fore. Do (3).
=
Certe me ne neglijos to.

Saluti kordiala,
Hermann
Partaka schrieb:
>
>
> Respektinda kolegaro:
= >
> Yen ke "Habemus LIA" enretigesis preske un monato
> = ante nun, e me prizus realigar mikra inquesto inter vi
> pri ta verk= o cienco-fiktiva, quan me skriptis originale
> per Ido, e quan me er= ste recente povis prizentar bloke.
> Se posibla, voluntez respondiza= r la sequanta questioni:
>
> 1) Ka vi lektis "Habemus LIA" m= esajope che nia forumi?
> 2) Ka vi parlektis la versiono dil romano = "Habemus LIA",
> recente enretigita kom PDF-dokumento?
> 3) K= a vi projetas lektar ol dum ica Pasko-tempo (o pose)?
>
> Se= vi ja lektis la tota verko, me pregas vi respondar a me:
>
>= ; 1) Quanta horin vi spensis por parlektar "Habemus LIA"?
> 2) Ka vi= bone komprenis mea Ido e la kontenajo dil verko?
> 3) Kad ulo remar= kinda, quon vi deziras adjuntar?
>
> Me predankas vi omna po= r via grava kunlaboro.
>
> Standez bone!
>
> = P A R T A K A
> * * * * * * * * *
>
> h= ttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
>
> &g= t;>>>>>>
>
> Estimata samideani ed amiki e= n la tota mondo:
>
> Per ica mesajo, me maxim volunte dezira= s informar
> vi omna, ke me fine povas prizentar a vi mea original > Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento,
> qua, segun se= mblo, esas ja disponebla, lektebla
> e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank K= asper, qua enretigis ol:
>
> http://www.lit= eraturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf
>
> Me deziras maxim bona= e profitoza lekto a vi omna,
> e sendas a vi mea maxim kordial ed a= mikal saluto
> del urbo Barcelona.
>
> P A R T A K A<= br> > * * * * * * * * *
>
> http://groups.y= ahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> http://groups.= yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
>
>

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Se vi advere preferas Dal=ED kam Pica= sso, o Picasso kam Dal=ED, me rekomendas a vi votar por un ek ta du piktist= i universal. Ma, kompreneble, se vi prizas amba piktisti same, od amba pikt= isti ne esas interesanta por vi, voluntez anke partoprenar nia inquesto ed= audigar via voco. Me memorigas da vi, ke via voto restos tote anonima, e= ke vi vidos la cetera voti nur pos ke vi votabos. Me esperas ke adminime = 10 o 12 membri dil grupo posta_Mundi partoprenos nia inquesto, ka ne? 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Voluntez partoprenar nia inquesto per simple indikar via prefero, = tote anonime, che l' fako "Sondeos" (Inquesti) dil forumo posta_Mundi, ube = vi anke trovos du plusa inquesti apertita, quin vi (maxim aparte nia maxim = nova membri) anke povas partoprenar, se vi ne ja votis: 1) Voluntez indi= kar via preferata LIA (inquesto qua ja partoprenesis da 31 membri) 2) V= oluntez indikar via yuna/nova LIA (inquesto qua ja partoprenesis da 14 memb= ri) Yen la ligilo qua duktas a nia trio de inquesti: http://es.groups.y= ahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi/polls Maxim kordial saluto a vi omna, kamaradi= ! * * * * * * * * p a r t a k a * * * * * * * * --- En posta_Mundi@= yahoogroups.com, "qualevistandas" skribis: Bon jorno, = amiki! 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X-Received: (qmail 2701 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Apr 2011 01:15:40 -0000 Message-ID: <831602.96738.qm@...> X-YMail-OSG: 10ASLqAVM1kTeleDLGyxvNXl.Up1eNAUjvveOLRANsZAri7 9Cj2fafUe.gd_1YH0DR5u4mIyZwt.v9zrQsgi3_feSbkuX5YSYv9ns_kT4Z9 vVtfFRKSt_9kEqD.6KaaiXOIaF5cORGOEzUn3an4OeL0huOHhVLsGuu6MDjO aPNhB_bTgbdVYqkaqnvH5v8Jl8AHa.8B8VHbEWNa52DE7Df7PfjUbywpmLWL bDPglaFgQz33ye9lkREfAVwgNfAsOEMxEe.4jIMzWA7t19CQCaG7yIOD2j69 D9txYCy6.n42.L.CfN6xQbzefi.jpK4wk4K6ITJbMMJxvkRsp_YcZSQFyFw- - X-Received: from [79.150.194.87] by web28214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:15:40 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <161957.75799.qm@...> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:15:40 +0100 (BST) To: IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com, posta_Mundi@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <161957.75799.qm@...> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-321076910-1303175740=:96738" From: Ila Mesajero Subject: Re: [NOVAJI] Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=286983961; y=plCs8CRTBc91Ers4pVdjX1oneI5keg_m22uM4835ZUv1AETD65qk X-Yahoo-Profile: ila_mesajero --0-321076910-1303175740=:96738 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Mesajo da Antonio Martinez, che Idolisto) Kara amiki, dum kelka dii = me esis repozanta pro fringala rupto e tale me povos tranquile lektar la g= randega (en omna sensi) verko da nia samideano Partaka. Vere esis amuziva= e rapide lektebla, quankam me ne konocis multa personi quin ja ne esas Id= isti. Me ipsa vidis me en la lektajo...danko! Amikale, Antonio. --- El lu= n, 18/4/11, Hermann Philipps escribi=C3=B3: >De= : Hermann Philipps >Asunto: Re: [idolisto] Re: [N= OVAJI] Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA" >Para: idolisto@yahoogroups.com >= Fecha: lunes, 18 de abril, 2011 10:28 > > > >Kara Partaka, > >me okaziona= le lektis singla sequaji di 'Habemus LIA', ma me intencas >lektar la toto = ye ul tempo plu tarda, forsan dum la venonta pasko-dii, >se la vetero ne l= uras me ad fore. Do (3). > >Certe me ne neglijos to. > >Saluti kordiala, >H= ermann > >Partaka schrieb: >> >> >> Respektinda kolegaro: >> >> Yen ke "= Habemus LIA" enretigesis preske un monato >> ante nun, e me prizus realigar= mikra inquesto inter vi >> pri ta verko cienco-fiktiva, quan me skriptis o= riginale >> per Ido, e quan me erste recente povis prizentar bloke. >> Se p= osibla, voluntez respondizar la sequanta questioni: >> >> 1) Ka vi lektis = "Habemus LIA" mesajope che nia forumi? >> 2) Ka vi parlektis la versiono di= l romano "Habemus LIA", >> recente enretigita kom PDF-dokumento? >> 3) Ka v= i projetas lektar ol dum ica Pasko-tempo (o pose)? >> >> Se vi ja lektis l= a tota verko, me pregas vi respondar a me: >> >> 1) Quanta horin vi spensi= s por parlektar "Habemus LIA"? >> 2) Ka vi bone komprenis mea Ido e la kont= enajo dil verko? >> 3) Kad ulo remarkinda, quon vi deziras adjuntar? >> >>= Me predankas vi omna por via grava kunlaboro. >> >> Standez bone! >> >> = P A R T A K A >> * * * * * * * * * >> >> http://groups,yahoo.com/group/pos= ta_Mundi - >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - >> >> >>>>= >>> >> >> Estimata samideani ed amiki en la tota mondo: >> >> Per ica mes= ajo, me maxim volunte deziras informar >> vi omna, ke me fine povas prizent= ar a vi mea original >> Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-dokumento, >> qua= , segun semblo, esas ja disponebla, lektebla >> e juebla, danke l'amiko Fra= nk Kasper, qua enretigis ol: >> >> http://www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LI= A.pdf >> >> Me deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna, >> e sendas= a vi mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto >> del urbo Barcelona. >> >> P A = R T A K A >> * * * * * * * * * >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_M= undi - >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan - >> >> > --0-321076910-1303175740=:96738 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<= td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font:inherit;">Kara amiki,

du= m kelka dii me esis repozanta pro fringala rupto e tale me povos tranquile = lektar la grandega (en omna sensi) verko da nia samideano Partaka. 

Vere esis amuziva e rapide lektebla, quankam me ne k= onocis multa personi quin ja ne esas Idisti. Me ipsa vidis me en la lektajo= ...danko!

Amikale, Antonio.

--- El lun, = 18/4/11, Hermann Philipps escrib= i=C3=B3:
<= br>De: Hermann Philipps
Asunto: Re: [ido= listo] Re: [NOVAJI] Enretigesis la verko "Habemus LIA"
Para: idolisto@ya= hoogroups.com
Fecha: lunes, 18 de abril, 2011 10:28

 

Kara Partaka,

me okazionale = lektis singla sequaji di 'Habemus LIA', ma me intencas
lektar la toto = ye ul tempo plu tarda, forsan dum la venonta pasko-dii,
se la vetero n= e luras me ad fore. Do (3).

Certe me ne neglijos to.

Salu= ti kordiala,
Hermann

Partaka schrieb:
>
>
= > Respektinda kolegaro:
>
> Yen ke "Habemus LIA" enretig= esis preske un monato
> ante nun, e me prizus realigar mikra inquest= o inter vi
> pri ta verko cienco-fiktiva, quan me skriptis originale=
> per Ido, e quan me erste recente povis prizentar bloke.
> = Se posibla, voluntez respondizar la sequanta questioni:
>
> = 1) Ka vi lektis "Habemus LIA" mesajope che nia forumi?
> 2) Ka vi pa= rlektis la versiono dil romano "Habemus LIA",
> recente enretigita k= om PDF-dokumento?
> 3) Ka vi projetas lektar ol dum ica Pasko-tempo = (o pose)?
>
> Se vi ja lektis la tota verko, me pregas vi re= spondar a me:
>
> 1) Quanta horin vi spensis por parlektar "= Habemus LIA"?
> 2) Ka vi bone komprenis mea Ido e la kontenajo dil v= erko?
> 3) Kad ulo remarkinda, quon vi deziras adjuntar?
> > Me predankas vi omna por via grava kunlaboro.
>
> St= andez bone!
>
> P A R T A K A
> * * * * * * * * *
= >
> http://groups,yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi= -
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccit= an -
>
> >>>>>>>
>
>= ; Estimata samideani ed amiki en la tota mondo:
>
> Per ica = mesajo, me maxim volunte deziras informar
> vi omna, ke me fine pova= s prizentar a vi mea original
> Ido-verko, "Habemus LIA", kom PDF-do= kumento,
> qua, segun semblo, esas ja disponebla, lektebla
> = e juebla, danke l'amiko Frank Kasper, qua enretigis ol:
>
> = http://www.literaturo.ido.li/Habemus_LIA.pdf
> =
> Me deziras maxim bona e profitoza lekto a vi omna,
> e sen= das a vi mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto
> del urbo Barcelona. >
> P A R T A K A
> * * * * * * * * *
>
>= ; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi -
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan -
&= gt;
>

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