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u=24528831; y=E4jghOUbCIEdZHUxXc0GeckT7EBLm1FnzCm476KD_xg X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_HE1PR10MB0074C7A62A2BDAC285A83ACDDA42F0HE1PR10MB0074EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rezumo di artikli kreita che Wikipedio dum la lasta semano: https://io.w= ikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flago_di_Ned= erlando https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirano_(Italia) https://io.wikipe= dia.org/wiki/Pescado_frito h= ttps://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crescent_City,_Kalifornia Kara Wikipediani, = esas necesa klarigar la senco di Citrono e Limono che Wikipedio e Wikivorta= ro. Li ne esas sinonimi, li esas diferanta frukti. La flava frukto esas L= imono (angle: Lemon); la kelke plu mikra verda frukto esas Citrono (angle: = Lime). Qua povas facar la necesa chanji? Predanko! Kordiale JC --_000_HE1PR10MB0074C7A62A2BDAC285A83ACDDA42F0HE1PR10MB0074EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rezumo di artikli kreita = che Wikipedio dum la lasta semano:=



<= p>https://io.wikipedia.org/wik= i/The_Prisoner

https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flago_di_Nederlando

=

https://io.wikiped= ia.org/wiki/Tirano_(Italia)

https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescado_frito

=

https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crescent_City,_Kalifornia

Kara Wikipediani, esas necesa klarigar la senco di Citrono e Limono c= he Wikipedio e Wikivortaro.  Li ne esas sinonimi, li esas diferanta fr= ukti.  La flava frukto esas Limono (angle: Lemon); la kelke plu mikra = verda frukto esas Citrono (angle: Lime).  Qua povas facar la necesa c= hanji?  Predanko!


Kordiale

JC


<= /p>


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Ka tu konsentas se me publikigas tua listi d= i artikli la precipua Ido-pagini di Facebook? Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifber= gen Amsterdam -- Wikipedio en Ido: https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontispic= o ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Datum : 22/03/20= 17 20:57 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp : [idolisto] Nova artikli= che Wikipedio Rezumo di artikli kreita che Wikipedio d= um la lasta semano: https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prison= er https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flago_di_Nederlando https://io.w= ikipedia.org/wiki/Tirano_(Italia) https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescad= o_frito https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crescent_City,_Kalifornia = Kara Wikipediani, esas necesa klarigar la senco di Citrono e Limono che= Wikipedio e Wikivortaro. Li ne esas sinonimi, li esas diferanta frukti. = La flava frukto esas Limono (angle: Lemon); la kelke plu mikra verda frukto= esas Citrono (angle: Lime). Qua povas facar la necesa chanji? 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Kara James,
 
Me transsendos la questiono a J= oao Xavier Santos, qua mantenas Wikipedio per nombroz artikli.
&n= bsp;
Ka tu konsentas se me publikigas tua listi di artikli la pre= cipua Ido-pagini di Facebook?
 
Saluti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
Amsterdam
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----Origineel Bericht----Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 22/03/2017 20:57
Aan : idolis= to@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp : [idolisto] Nova artikli che Wikipedio
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Rezumo di artikli kreita che Wi= kipedio dum la lasta semano:


https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prison= er

https://io.wikipedia= .org/wiki/Flago_di_Nederlando

https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirano_(Italia)

https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescado_frito

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https://io.wik= ipedia.org/wiki/Crescent_City,_Kalifornia

Kara Wikip= ediani, esas necesa klarigar la senco di Citrono e Limono che Wikipedio e W= ikivortaro.  Li ne esas sinonimi, li esas diferanta frukti.  La f= lava frukto esas Limono (angle: Lemon); la kelke plu mikra verda frukto esa= s Citrono (angle: Lime).  Qua povas facar la necesa chanji?  Pred= anko!


Kordiale

JC


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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara=C2=A0 Gilles-Philippe, Danko pro vua interesanta questiono ad ULI. = Probable la DK di ULI ne respondos rapide a vua questiono pro ke segun quon= me savas la nuna DK ne ankor respondis a tala questiono. Do=C2=A0 interna = diskuto esos necesa e=C2=A0 forsan=C2=A0 mem l'apliko di sequanta artiklo 2= 6 di la statuti di ULI : =C2=A7 26.=C2=A0 "Por esar diskutata, omna grava = questioni decidenda dal Direktanta Komitato es publikigenda en l'ofical org= ano adminime 3 monati ante la komenco dil voto." Vartante esus interesanta= savar=C2=A0 quo exemple povas pensigar a vu=C2=A0 ke la nuna Idomovado jon= glas kun du Ido diferanta, qui deskonkordas l'una kun l'altra? Mea person= ala opiniono esas lo sequanta: Pri la Akademio Interimala (1924-1930), la A= kademio Posa (1931-1933) decidis segun olua decido 1977 (1977-a segun J. Ro= ze) la ridiskuto ed eventuala modifiko di omna posmilita decidi de 1426 til= 1976 dil=C2=A0 Akademio Interimal. To=C2=A0 koncernis=C2=A0 nur la vortaro= =C2=A0 e=C2=A0 Janis Roze publikigis la listo di vorti grand parte steletiz= ita=C2=A0 en PROGRESO N=C2=B0 81-82-83-84-85 yaro 1931 e=C2=A0 N=C2=B0 88-9= 0 yaro 1932 . Depos me konstatis ke la 10 000 radiki da Marcel Pesch publik= igita en 1964 kontenis ca listo de vorti ma sen steleto.=C2=A0 Me ne savas = se oficala decido di ULI eventis pri to. Sendubite la respondo esas en PROG= RESO ma desfortune omna numeri di PROGRESO ne esas ankor disponebla ad omni= per interreto. On mustas anke konsiderar ke segun l'artiklo 1 di statuti= "La Uniono konsideras la linguo internaciona=C2=A0 Ido=C2=A0 ne kom perfek= ta e netushebla, ma kom sempre perfektigebla".=C2=A0=C2=A0 Do omna decido a= ntea povus ridiskutesar e chanjesar se necesa da la membri di ULI. Pri la= gramatiko esas altra afero plu grava ! Me ne konocas la diversa propozi di= l=C2=A0 Akademio Interimala (1924-1930) publigita en MONDO=C2=A0 qui duktis= a la skismo di 1929 kun migro di grand parto di Idisti reformema ad Occide= ntal e Novial. To interesus me konocar la detaloza propozi di ca-epoko.=C2= =A0 La propozi dil=C2=A0 Akademio Posa (1931-1933) esas plu facile acesebla= =C2=A0 pro ke oli esas en PROGRESO dil yari 1931-1933.=C2=A0=C2=A0 La reviz= o dil linguo facita da la Akademio Posa=C2=A0 komencis per generala diskuto= pri la fonetiko propozita da la sekretario Stefano Bakonyi e qua duktis al= provizora konkluzi publikigita en=C2=A0 PROGRESO N=C2=B0 85. Ma sequis des= konkordo inter la partisani di klasika Ido e la partisani di Stefano Bakony= i. En PROGRESO N=C2=B097 oktobro 1933=C2=A0 la nomo di Stefano Bakonyi ne p= lu aparas kom membro dil=C2=A0 Akademio. Forsan il ja migris ad Interlingua= ? E dum la prezidanteso di=C2=A0 S. Quarfood qua esis=C2=A0 partisano di k= lasika Ido, l'Akademio decidis periodo di stabileso duronta 5 yari de la 1.= 1. 1934. - 1. Dum ca periodo nula diskuti pri chanji darfas eventar en =C2= =ABProgreso=C2=BB. - 2. Nula chanji en la fundamentala strukturo di Ido fac= esos dum la sama tempo. - 3. Publikigeso di nova vorti eventos quale til n= un segun bezono. - 4. La tasko dil Akademio esas dum ca periodo examenar, = kad e quale Ido ev. devas modifikesar. - 5. Pos la fino dil periodo la Akad= emio publikigos la rezultajo e decidos segun olu. Ma pos la fino dil perio= do di stabileso=C2=A0 eventis la duesma milito ...=C2=A0 Me kredas ke la d= ecido 1 esis tre regretinda pro ke ol impedis omna progreso di la linguo. = Forsan ula diskuti dil Akademio Posa en PROGRESO povos denove fruktifikar e= d abutar a plubonigar Ido? Kordiale Lo=C3=AFc Landais =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Message du 21/03/17 05:17 > De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4= uobzdkud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]" > A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com > C= opie =C3=A0 : > Objet : [idolisto] Pri la ULI > > > > > Kara samideani= , > Me facas grava exploro di nia linguo, e quante plu me vidas klare, tan= te plu me vidas duople. > > > Semblas a me, ke la nuna Idomovado jongla= s kun du Ido diferanta, qui deskonkordas l'una kun l'altra. No, me ne parol= as pri la skismo kun Tiberio Madonna, ma pri skismo anteriora, qua ankore f= acas cikatro. > > > Me deziras savar, quo es la pozeso oficala di la nu= na Uniono por la Linguo Internaciona pri la Skismo di 1929. Ka lu aceptas l= a oficaleso di la Akademio Interimala (1924-1930) di la lora ULI (e dil Aka= demio Posa), o kad ol suportas la partiso di Marcelo Persiko e di Louis de = Beaufront kontre la lora ULI? Kad ol suportas amba? > > > Ta pozeso ofi= cala es tre grava, por decidar pri la nuna stando di nia linguo e pri la of= icaleso di la Dicionario de la 10.000 radiki da Marcelo Persiko. Pro manko = di klareso, la nuna dicionarii (e specale la Wikivortaro) sufras de granda = neklareso. Certe, ta bezono di klarigo postulas la laboro di futura Lingual= a Komitato (LK). > > > Me deziras ne perdar tro multa tempo neutile, do= me vartas oficala respondo da ULI pri lua pozeso pri la Skismo ante donar = plusa informi pri mea analizo. > > > Kun kordiala saluti, > Gilles-Phi= lippe > > =C2=A0 ------=_Part_21345_1785496717.14902283811123 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara=C2=A0 Gilles-Philippe,

=


Danko pro vua interesanta questiono ad ULI.
Probable la DK di ULI ne respondos rapide a vua q= uestiono pro ke segun quon me savas la nuna DK ne ankor respondis a tala qu= estiono. Do=C2=A0 interna diskuto esos necesa e=C2=A0 forsan=C2=A0 mem l'ap= liko di sequanta artiklo 26 di la statuti di ULI :
=C2=A7 26.=C2=A0 "Por esar diskutata, omna grava que= stioni decidenda dal Direktanta Komitato es publikigenda en
l'ofical organo adminime 3 monati ante la ko= menco dil voto."

Vartan= te esus interesanta savar=C2=A0 quo exemple povas pensigar a vu=C2=A0 ke la= nuna Idomovado jonglas kun du Ido diferanta, qui deskonkordas l'una kun l'= altra?


Mea personala opiniono esas lo sequanta:<= br />Pri la Akademio Interimala (1924-193= 0), la Akademio Posa (1931-1933) decidis segun olua decido 1977 (1977-a seg= un J. Roze) la ridiskuto ed eventuala modifiko di omna posmilita decidi de = 1426 til 1976 dil=C2=A0 Akademio Interimal. To=C2=A0 koncernis=C2=A0 nur la= vortaro=C2=A0 e=C2=A0 Janis Roze publikigis la listo di vorti grand parte = steletizita=C2=A0 en PROGRESO N=C2=B0 81-82-83-84-85 yaro 1931 e=C2=A0 N=C2= =B0 88-90 yaro 1932 .
Depos m= e konstatis ke la 10 000 radiki da Marcel Pesch publikigita en 1964 konteni= s ca listo de vorti ma sen steleto.=C2=A0 Me ne savas se oficala decido di = ULI eventis pri to. Sendubite la respondo esas en PROGRESO ma desfortune om= na numeri di PROGRESO ne esas ankor disponebla ad omni per interreto.


On mustas anke konsiderarr ke segun l'artiklo 1 di statuti "L= a Uniono konsideras la linguo internaciona=C2=A0 Ido=C2=A0 ne kom perfekta = e netushebla, ma kom sempre perfektigebla".=C2=A0=C2=A0 Do omna decido ante= a povus ridiskutesar e chanjesar se necesa da la membri di ULI.

=


Pri la gramatiko esas altra afero plu grava ! Me ne konocas la div= ersa propozi dil=C2=A0 Akademio Interimala (1924-1930) publigita en MONDO= =C2=A0 qui duktis a la skismo di 1929 kun migro di grand parto di Idisti re= formema ad Occidental e Novial. To interesus me konocar la detaloza propozi= di ca-epoko.=C2=A0 La propozi dil=C2=A0 Akademio Posa (1931-1933) esas plu= facile acesebla=C2=A0 pro ke oli esas en PROGRESO dil yari 1931-1933.=C2= =A0=C2=A0 La revizo dil linguo facita da la Akademio Posa=C2=A0 komencis pe= r generala diskuto pri la fonetiko propozita da la sekretario Stefano Bakon= yi e qua duktis al provizora konkluzi publikigita en=C2=A0 PROGRESO N=C2=B0= 85. Ma sequis deskonkordo inter la partisani di klasika Ido e la partisani= di Stefano Bakonyi. En PROGRESO N=C2=B097 oktobro 1933=C2=A0 la nomo di St= efano Bakonyi ne plu aparas kom membro dil=C2=A0 Akademio. Forsan il ja mig= ris ad Interlingua ? E dum la prezidanteso di=C2=A0 S. Quarfood qua esis=C2= =A0 partisano di klasika Ido, l'Akademio decidis periodo di stabileso duron= ta 5 yari de la 1. 1. 1934.
-= 1. Dum ca periodo nula diskuti pri chanji darfas eventar en =C2=ABProgreso= =C2=BB.
- 2. Nula chanji en l= a fundamentala strukturo di Ido facesos dum la sama tempo.
- 3. Publikigeso di nova vorti eventos quale= til nun segun bezono.
- 4. = La tasko dil Akademio esas dum ca periodo examenar, kad e quale Ido ev. dev= as modifikesar.
- 5. Pos la f= ino dil periodo la Akademio publikigos la rezultajo e decidos segun olu.

Ma pos la fino dil period= o di stabileso=C2=A0 eventis la duesma milito ...=C2=A0
Me kredas ke la decido 1 esis tre regretinda pr= o ke ol impedis omna progreso di la linguo.
Forsan ula diskuti dil Akademio Posa en PROGRESO povos deno= ve fruktifikar ed abutar a plubonigar Ido?


Kordiale
Lo=C3=AFc Landais

= =C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

> M= essage du 21/03/17 05:17
> De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6bl= kwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]"
> A := idolisto@yahoogroups.com
> Copie =C3=A0 :
> Objet : [idol= isto] Pri la ULI
>
>

> Kara samideani,<= /p>

> Me facas grava exploro di nia linguo, e quante plu me vid= as klare, tante plu me vidas duople.

>
>

> Semblas a me, ke la nuna Idomovado jonglas kun du Ido dif= eranta, qui deskonkordas l'una kun l'altra. No, me ne parolas pri la skismo= kun Tiberio Madonna, ma pri skismo anteriora, qua ankore facas cikatro.

>
>

> Me deziras savar, quo = es la pozeso oficala di la nuna Uniono por la Linguo Internaciona pri la Sk= ismo di 1929. Ka lu aceptas la oficaleso di la Akademio Interimala (1924-19= 30) di la lora ULI (e dil Akademio Posa), o kad ol suportas la partiso di M= arcelo Persiko e di Louis de Beaufront kontre la lora ULI? Kad ol suportas = amba?

>
>

> Ta poze= so oficala es tre grava, por decidar pri la nuna stando di nia linguo e pri= la oficaleso di la Dicionario de la 10= .000 radiki da Marcelo Persiko. Pro manko di klareso, la nuna dicion= arii (e specale la Wikivortaro) sufras de granda neklareso. Certe, ta bezon= o di klarigo postulas la laboro di futura Linguala Komitato (LK).

>
>

> Me deziras ne perdar t= ro multa tempo neutile, do me vartas oficala respondo da ULI pri lua pozeso= pri la Skismo ante donar plusa informi pri mea analizo.

>=
>

> Kun kordiala saluti,

=

> Gilles-Philippe

=C2=A0
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Predanko pro la transsendo.  Sro Santos ya multe laboras ch= e Wikipedio.  Vu darfas sendar la listo di artikli a Facebook.


Kordiale
JC

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Kara James,
 
Me transsendos la questiono a Joao Xavier Santos, qua mantenas Wikipedio p= er nombroz artikli.
 
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Saluti amikala,
 
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y=g-RQZdRDYSWzvCXdzV977E3mbAE2b2moDuZs7rMM-PM X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_HE1PR10MB0074B762404A138377BDEED11A43F0HE1PR10MB0074EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Gilles-Philippe Mea mesajo ne bezonas klarigo. Me nur citas Dyer Ido= -Angla: http://idolinguo.org.uk/idendyer.htm Intertempe me trovis anke li= meto: limet-o: (fruit) lime; -iero: lime tree (Citrus limetta). =97 DeFISL= Segun Wikivortaro ico esas "sweet lime". Citrono semblas esar ulo altra:= https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9dratier Qua povas klarigar ico omno= ? JC ________________________________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6blkwtil= b@yahoo.com [idolisto] Sent: 23 March 2017 00:15= To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com Subject: [idolisto] Re: Nova artikli che Wiki= pedio Kara James, Me volas klarigar vua mesajo. Vu skribis: =ABLa flava= frukto esas Limono (angle: Lemon); la kelke plu mikra verda frukto esas Ci= trono (angle: Lime).=BB Or ta distingo es tro neklara, e la du vorti venas= de la Franca. La Franca ne distingas la frukti samamaniere kam la Angla. L= a maxim bona nomi por distingar efikive la frukti es evidente la Latina nom= enklaturo. Yen mea precizigo: citrono es la Franca =ABcitron=BB: Citrus li= mon. (Dictionnaire International-Fran=E7ais, 29) limono es F. =ABlimon=BB: = C. latifolia e C. aurantiifolia. (D. I.-F., 103) limeto (olim =ABlimedo=BB)= es F. =ABlimette=BB: C. limetta e C. limettioides. (DIF, 102) cedrato es F= . =ABc=E9drat=BB: C. medica. (II, 708) --_000_HE1PR10MB0074B762404A138377BDEED11A43F0HE1PR10MB0074EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Gilles-Phili= ppe


Mea mesajo ne bezonas klarigo.  Me nur citas = Dyer Ido-Angla:


Inte= rtempe me trovis anke limeto:

limet-o: (fruit) lime; -iero: lime tree (Citrus limetta). =97 DeFISL

Segun Wikivortaro ico esas= "sweet lime".

Citrono semblas esar u= lo altra:


=
Qua povas klarigar ico omno?

JC

From: idolisto@= yahoogroups.com on behalf of ahzldxib2r5da= vfg53hvre4uobzdkud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]
Sent: 23 March 2017 00:15
To: idolisto@yahoogr= oups.com
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Kara James,
Me volas = klarigar vua mesajo.

Vu skribis:
=ABLa fla= va frukto esas Limono (angle: Lemon); la kelke plu mikra verda frukto esas = Citrono (angle: Lime).=BB

Or ta distingo es tro= neklara, e la du vorti venas de la Franca. La Franca ne distingas la frukt= i samamaniere kam la Angla. La maxim bona nomi por distingar efikive la fru= kti es evidente la Latina nomenklaturo.

Yen mea= precizigo:
citrono es l= a Franca =ABcitron=BB: Citrus limon<= /span>. (Dictionnaire International-Fran= =E7ais, 29)
limono es F. =ABlimon=BB: C. latifolia e C. aurantiifolia. (D. I.-F.= , 103)
limeto (olim =ABl= imedo=BB) es F. =ABlimette=BB: C. li= metta e C. limettioides.&nb= sp;(DIF, 102)
cedrato&nb= sp;es F. =ABc=E9drat=BB: C. medica. (II, 708)
<= /div>
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Oli esas trovebla tra frontispico, tra ”ciencala nomi”, tra ”C Ciencala nomi”, tra la ciencala nomi komencanta "Citrus". On povas krear plusa tala pagini se bezonesas. Amikale Arto James Chandler idojc@hotmail.com [idolisto] kirjoitti 22.3.2017 21:57: > > Kara Wikipediani, esas necesa klarigar la senco di Citrono e Limono > che Wikipedio e Wikivortaro. Li ne esas sinonimi, li esas diferanta > frukti. La flava frukto esas Limono (angle: Lemon); la kelke plu mikra > verda frukto esas Citrono (angle: Lime). Qua povas facar la necesa > chanji? 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Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:05:50 +0000; 1490443550.998 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:05:47 +0000 (UTC) To: "idolisto@yahoogroups.com" Message-ID: <403194505.3548485.1490443547984@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3548484_533316557.1490443547982" References: <403194505.3548485.1490443547984.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Length: 2162 Reply-To: Peter Totten Subject: Ni esas Europa X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=30053730; y=LBVhvn_rp7uYeo5sXJz7C5tIhzJkoNvseppyOvGcDRQoNQ X-Yahoo-Profile: tottenp From: Peter Totten ------=_Part_3548484_533316557.14904435447982 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Hans, En 2015 me voyajis kun la spozino a Chekia pos la Internaciona K= unsido en Berlin.=C2=A0Ni multe juis ta voyajo. Me maxim prizis la Sudenten= land (la lando furtita de Germania en 1945).Ibe esis tre bela monti e sapor= oza 'gulash' e 'nefiltrova' biro.=C2=A0Pluse, la preci es plu basa kam en o= cidental Europa.Ma me ne ja trovis chipa avion-bileto, e mea enspezo es plu= basa kam antee.Me esperas ke futurala Internaciona Kunsidi esos en chipa l= andi! Amikale salutas,Petroen Tokyo ------=_Part_3548484_533316557.14904435447982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kara Hans,

En 2015 me voyajis kun la spozino a Chekia pos la Intern= aciona Kunsido en Berlin. 
Ni multe juis ta voyajo. Me maxim prizis la Sudentenland (la la= ndo furtita de Germania en 1945).
Ibe esis tre bela monti e saporoza 'gulash' e 'nefiltrova' bi= ro. 
Pluse, la = preci es plu basa kam en ocidental Europa.
Ma me ne ja trovis chipa avion-bileto, e mea enspezo= es plu basa kam antee.
Me esperas ke futurala Internaciona Kunsidi esos en chipa landi!
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Amikale salutas,
Petro
en Tokyo
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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Gilles-Phillipe, Itere, me respondas a vu ne nome di ULI ma kom simpla= membro di ULI. Me lektis atenceme vua longa mesajo ed aprobas vua 2 konkl= uzi. Pri la listo di vorti, me jus trovis la 2 erori sequanta: 1)=C2=A0 p= ri "monsinior-o (1984=C2=A0 IX-81)" : Ne povas esar la decido 1984 pro ke J= anis Roze raportis en 1937 : "Me atencigas, ke en la numerizo dil decidi di= l Akademio Posa semblas insinuir su eroro; nam l'anciena decidi extensis su= til 1981 inkl. " Do me verifikis en PROGRESO e trovis ke esas la decido 17= 94 : =C2=A0monsinior-o (1794, M. XVI): titulo di princi e prelati. D Hoheit= , E I Monsignore, F Monseigneur (M. XII 346) 2) pri dec. 1966: ignorar, abs= enta che Pesch : Yenla definuro da M. Pesch: ignorar : Refuzar saveskar, k= onoceskar; vole nesavar, vole nekonocar. =E2=80=93 AFGHIR Nun semblas a m= e necesa ke ULI inventarias omna Idala radiki (kun=C2=A0 defino e tradukuro= ) qui propozesis dal omna Ido-Akademii, da la sekretarii di linguala quest= ioni e da la Komitato Linguala di ULI e listizar oli en unika dokumento vid= ebla da omnu . Kordiale Lo=C3=AFc Landais =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= > Message du 23/03/17 23:56 > De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6blkwt= ilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]" > A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com > Copie =C3=A0 : = > Objet : re: [idolisto] Pri la ULI > > > > Kara Hans, Ka to ne es evi= denta? Nulu altra kam Tiberio ipsa audacus skribar tala mesajo. Il pruvis l= o per skribar la yena komento (o ka, segun uli, komenturo?) en la ret-situo= Parolez Ido: > http://linguoido.ning.com/profiles/blogs/pri-lo-c-landais = > Kara Tiberio, Nu, me ya demandis la opiniono oficala da ULI, ma to nule = impedas altri (tal quala Lo=C3=AFc Landais e, yes, anke vu) informar pri su= a opiniono pri la temo. Mea nura intenco esis dicar, ke me ne volas perdar = tempo per skribar mili de vorti pri la analizo ja temporiva, se to semblus = tote neefikiva e neutila (regretinde *ho-mesaje me ya skribis mili de vorti= =E2=80=A6). On ja tendencas, o mokar ti qui analizas la linguo, o propozar = senfina chanji teoriala=E2=80=94e me ne mem parolas pri la stando di la Lin= guala Komitato! Pro quo nia societo (o ka, segun altri, komuneso?) es tante= polarizita? Me ne vere serchas respondo (responduro) a ca questiono (quest= ionuro). > Honeste me plu prizus ne lektar kritiko da vu, ma vice lektar v= ua propra opiniono pri la temo (mem se vu ne es la ULI!). > Kara Lo=C3=AFc= , Danko pro la respondo. > Me ne volas skribar pri omna to, quon me analiz= is en la pasinta semani, sen serioza diskuto dal Uniono=E2=80=94e ne kun nu= r UN homo, o Tiberio Madonna, o vu, od irgu altra, mem kun me ipsa! Tamen, = yen kelka elementi, qui igis me sechar pri to, quo esas vera jonglo (e mem = junglo) nuntempa. > Nu, me komencez. > Unesme, semblas a me, ke la fundam= ento di la nuna Ido es quar verki: la vortolibri (o, segun l'Akademio Inter= imal, vortilibri) da Luther H. Dyer (1922-1924), la dicionario da Marcel Pe= sch (1964) e la Lexiki de Nova Vorti (Camiel de Cock, Robert Carnaghan). >= Or la quar verki deskonkordas pri plura punti. > Exemple, Dyer donas =C2= =ABcivila stando=C2=BB, dum ke Pesch donas =C2=ABcivila estado=C2=BB. > Pe= sch es anke tre konfuza pri la defino di =C2=ABcerta=C2=BB e =C2=ABcertena= =C2=BB. > Pesch skribas =C2=ABauspico=C2=BB, dum ke la Lexiko dicas, ke = =C2=ABauspicio=C2=BB es oficala de pos 1929. Ol anke ne indikas, ke =C2=ABa= nkore=C2=BB, =C2=ABapene=C2=BB, =C2=ABanke=C2=BB e =C2=ABkande=C2=BB darfas= elizionesar. > Serchante en Progreso, me komprenis, ke la klefo dil miste= rio es la Akademio Interimal. Ol es ta, qua adoptis la chanji gramatikala e= vortarala (delicio, auspicio, artilrio, ankor, ank, kand, apen, eliziono d= i -as). > Segun mea kompreno, omna decidi linguala dal Akademio Interimal = (o preske omna) transskribesis en Progreo. Yen listo de la decidi, quin me = notis: > *Nova vorti: abanik-o (1931, VIII-50) abis-o, -ala (1888, VIII-50= ) absters-ar (1522, VIII-48) abstinenc-ar (1635, VIII-49) acinezi-o (1655, = VIII-98) adenit-o (1932, VIII-50) adragant-o (1811, VIII-49) aerograf-o (19= 70, VIII-50) aer-pinsel-o (1971, VIII-50) alcedo (1533, VIII-48) [mayuskulo= ?] alcion-o (1532, VIII-48) alini-ar (1712, VIII-49) alkald-o (1664, VIII-4= 9) Amhar-a, -ana (1604, VIII-244) analgezi-o (1655, VIII-98) Andorra (1426,= VIII-48) Angora-kapro (1652, VIII-49) Angora-kato (1652, VIII-49) anti-cez= aro (1636, VIII-49) anti-imperiestro (1636, VIII-49) aktinik-a, -eso (1929,= VIII-50) anamnez-ar (1973, VIII-50) aproxim-ar (1800, VIII-49) Arame-a (16= 04, VIII-244) argalo (1608, VIII-48) [mayuskulo?] argan-o (1482, VIII-48) A= rieto (1511, IX-183) ariet-o (1510, VIII-48) Arkero (1511, IX-183) armoraci= -o (1637, VIII-49) asterisk-o (1977, VIII-50) aterom-o (1660, VIII-49) ausp= ici-o (1977, VIII-50) autobus-o (1719, VIII-49) avelan-gliro (1706, VIII-12= 8) Balanc-o (1511) bemol-o (1816, VIII-96) beriberi-o (1593, VIII-51) bin-a= r, -o, -eyo (1802, VIII-95) blokhaus-o (1639, VIII-51) blok-umar, -um-ajo, = des- -ar (1718, VIII-51) bodmeri-ar (1638, VIII-51) bon-jermoz-a (1892, IX-= 81) bosel-ar (1464, VIII-50) brechi-o (1651, VIII-51) buh-o (1809, VIII-95)= bukmaker-o (1640, VIII-51) bulin-o (1512, VIII-51) Bur-o, -i (1797, VIII-5= 1) Bushman-o, -i (1798, VIII-51) buz-o (1812, VIII-96) buzard-o (1813, VIII= -96) certifik-ar (1702, VIII-96) chaket-o (1546, VIII-96) champinion-o (165= 9, VIII-96) chant-o (1814, VIII-96) chap-o (1508, VIII-96) cikl-ismo (1684,= VIII-96) cirkond-ar (1555, VIII-96) dazl-ar (1513, VIII-96) debush-ar (183= 1, VIII-97) deflegm-ar (1792, VIII-97) dekalkomani-o, facar - (1714, VIII-9= 7) demotik-a (1832, VIII-97) deserv-ar (1833, VIII-97) detach-ar (1834, VII= I-97) diakilon-o (1895, VIII-98) diakonis-o (1515, VIII-97) Direktori-o (18= 35, VIII-97) distint-a (1702, VIII-97) dominikan-o (1836, VIII-98) dorso-sa= lto (1609, VIII-97) drezin-o (1707, VIII-97) dront-o (1547, VIII-97) dubit-= ar (1927, VIII-98) duplik-o (1810, VIII-97) eciz-ar, -o (1904, VIII-100) ef= icient-a (1933, VIII-124) eglefin-o (1912, VIII-124) egotism-o (1837, VIII-= 99) egotist-o (1837, VIII-99) elektrologi-o (1838, VIII-99) elektrometr-o (= 1851, VIII-100) elektrometri-o (1851, VIII-100) elektroskop-o (1851, VIII-1= 00; 1908, VIII-124) elektroskopi-o (1909, VIII-124) elevator-o (1907, VIII-= 124) Elize-o (1840, VIII-99) elongacion-o (1840, VIII-99) embalm-ar, -o, -i= gar, -ero, -isto, -ilo (1915, VIII-124) emetik-o (1910, VIII-124) enciklik-= o (1841, VIII-99) endokardi-o (1911, VIII-124) energi-ivora (1808, VIII-196= ) enorm-a (1544, VIII-98) enterit-o (1842, VIII-99) enukle-ar (1913, VIII-1= 24) envi-o (1642, VIII-98) Eoli-ana (1436, VIII-98) eozin-o (1843, VIII-99)= epicikl-o (1844, VIII-99) epicikloid-o (1845, VIII-99) epifit-a, -o (1846,= VIII-99) epiglot-o (1847, VIII-99) epigon-o (1848, VIII-100) epigrafi-o (1= 904, VIII-100) epulis-o (1904, VIII-100) equipol-ar (1848, VIII-100) erekt-= ar (1465, VIII-98) ekonomik-o (1633, VIII-98) endermik-a (1904, VIII-124) e= pigraf-o (1665, VIII-98) ering-o (1849, VIII-100) erod-ar (1622, VIII-98) e= rv-o (1853, VIII-100) eskarbil-o (1854, VIII-100) eshelon-o (172, VIII-99) = etalon-o (1928, VIII-124) etmoid-o (1855, VIII-100) eudiometri-o (1856, VII= I-100; 1856, VIII-195) exantem-tifo (1643, VIII-98) exark-o (1857, VIII-100= ) exasper-ar (1715, VIII-99) exkardin-ar (1796, VIII-195) exostos-o (1858, = VIII-100) exulcer-o (1817, VIII-99) faktitiv-a (1722, VIII-126) fakultativ-= a (1859, VIII-125) fanerogam-a, -o (1860, VIII-125) febro purpurea (1643, V= III-98) fenacetin-o (1861, VIII-125) Festo dil kristo-korpo (1771, VIII-126= ) fik-o (1862, VIII-125) fikari-o (1863, VIII-125) filament-o (1873, VIII-1= 25) finis-ar (1466, VIII-126) fioritur-o (1602, VIII-126) fish-ivora (1808,= VIII-196) Fishi (1511, IX-183) fiziognomoni-o (1864, VIII-125) flatulent-a= , -eso (1818, VIII-125) flundr-o (1779, VIII-126) folklor-o (1607, VIII-126= ) fonetism-o (1819, VIII-125) fong-o, -oza (1820, VIII-125) formulari-o (16= 98, VIII-126) foronomi-o (1815, VIII-125) fotel-o (1805, VIII-125) fot-o (1= 675, VIII-126) foto-terapio (1658, VIII-126; 1675, VIII-126) foxtrot-o (185= 2, VIII-125) Franciskan-o (1865, VIII-125) frist-o (1467, VIII-126) frukt-i= vora (1808, VIII-196) furnaz-o (1898, VIII-126) garden-gliro (1706, VIII-12= 8) gastralgi-o (1866, VIII-128) generator-o (1867, VIII-128) genitor-i (195= 9, VIII-129) geocentral-a (1868, VIII-128) Georg-ismo, -isto (1885, VIII-12= 8) gild-o (1490, VIII-128) glaukom-o (1869, VIII-128) gobelin-tapeto (1708,= VIII-128) gobelin-tapiso (1708, VIII-128) goniometr-o (1870, VIII-128) gon= iometri-o (1870, VIII-128) grafism-o (1917, VIII-129) grib-o, -i (1709, VII= I-128) Gruzi-a (1509, VIII-128) gulyash-o (1723, VIII-128) halogen-o (1871,= VIII-129) halon-o(1872, VIII-129) haltik-o (1899, VIII-130) halux-o (1874,= VIII-129) haptik-o, -ala (1673, VIII-129) hederace-o (1875, VIII-129) hekt= owatt (1724, VIII-129; 1788, VIII-127) heliantem-o nan-folia (1644, VIII-12= 9) heliocentral-a (1876, VIII-130) heliometr-o (1877, VIII-130) heliostat-o= (1878, VIII-130) hemiplegi-o (1879, VIII-130) hemoragi-o (1880, VIII-130) = hepatit-o (1880, VIII-130) heuristik-o (1780, VIII-129) hibern-ar (1893, VI= II-130) hidrocefal-a, -o (1882, VIII-130) hidroquinon-o (1883, VIII-130) hi= groskop-o, -a (1884, VIII-130) histerezometr-o (1887, VIII-130) hola! (1702= , VIII-129) hop! (1702, VIII-129) hu! (1702, VIII-129) hum! (1702, VIII-129= ) imaginar-a (1702, VIII-132) imens-a (1545, VIII-131) imol-ar (1702, VIII-= 132) inanicion-o (1432, VIII-130) incident-a frazo (1600, VIII-131) indicio= n-o (1780, VIII-133) indikator-o (1781, VIII-133) induktor-o (1725, VIII-13= 2) induljenc-o (1726, VIII-132) indult-o (1726, VIII-132) infinitezim-a, -o= (1728, VIII-132) infix-o (1729, VIII-132) infloresenc-o (1432, VIII-130) i= ngest-ar (1582, VIII-131) inkardin-ar (1795, VIII-195) inkarnac-ar, -o (173= 0, VIII-132) inkur-ar (1702, VIII-132) insekt-ivora (1731, VIII-196; 1808, = VIII-196) instil-ar (1732, VIII-132) intendanc-o (1784, VIII-196) internaci= onal-o, -ismo, -isto (1669, VIII-131) inul-o (1733, VIII-132) interogativ-a= , -o (1829, VIII-196) intumec-ar (1434, VIII-130) intusucepcion-o (1483, VI= II-131) invagin-ar (1435, VIII-130) iodoform-o (1734, VIII-132) ionik-a (14= 36, VIII-131) islam-o (1437, VIII-131) izocel-a (1735, VIII-132) izogon-a (= 1736, VIII-132) izografik-a (1737, VIII-133) izoklin-a (1738, VIII-133) izo= kron-a, -eso (1739, VIII-133) izometr-a (1740, VIII-133) izoperimetr-a (174= 1, VIII-133) izotop-a (1742, VIII-133) izotrop-a (1743, VIII-133) Jemeli (1= 511, IX-183) jenjivit-o (1744, VIII-196) joli-a (1981, VIII-196) jugular-a = (1745, VIII-196) juras-ala (1631, VIII-196) juri-o (1516, VIII-196) kachu-o= (1438, VIII-197) kafein-o (VIII-197) kafr-o (VIII-197) kagul-o (1439, VIII= -197) kak-ar (1524, VIII-199) kakexi-o (1748, VIII-197) kalam-o (1749, VIII= -197) kalcedon-o (1440, VIII-197) kalefakt-ar (1441, VIII-197) kalkane-o (1= 783, VIII-198) kalorimetr-o (1790, VIII-198) kalorimetri-ar, -o (1790, VIII= -198) kamali-o (1750, VIII-197) kamarili-o (1751, VIII-198) Kanaan, -ana (1= 604, VIII-244) kanetili-o (1442, VIII-197) Kankro (1511, IX-183) kantabil-o= (VIII-243) kapitul-o (1753, VIII-198) Kaprikorno (1511, IX-183) kaprimulg-= o (1443, VIII-197) kapuchin-o (1649, VIII-243) kapucino-simio (1754, VIII-1= 98) kardamin-o (1444, VIII-197) karn-ivora (1808, VIII-196) karpologi-o, -a= (1661, VIII-243) kartuzi-o (1484, VIII-198) karunkl-o (1446, VIII-197) kat= am-o (1445, VIII-197) katis-ar (1447, VIII-197) kaul-pierido (1786, VIII-24= 4) kenel-o (1449, VIII-198) kermes-o (1486, VIII-199) kilowatt (1755, VIII-= 198; 1788, VIII-127) klin-ar (1449, VIII-198) koit-ar (1617, VIII-243) kolu= mn-o (1429, VIII-197) koluzion-ar (1450, VIII-198) koma-o (1826, VIII-243) = komic-o (1451, VIII-198) kondomini-ar, -o (1487, VIII-199) konfluant-a (182= 7, VIII-243) konkupicenc-o (1921, VIII-244) konkusion-ar (1452, VIII-198) k= onquasant-a (1828, VIII-243) kordo-ponteto (1662, VIII-243) krateg-pierid-o= (1786, VIII-244) kupro-grabar (1950, IX-180) kurbatur-ar (1453, VIII-198) = kuret-o, -agar (1594, VIII-199; 1594, VIII-243) laktos-o (1756, IX-79) lal-= ar (1922, IX-79) latani-o, -bero (1526, VIII-244) Latv-a, -ia (1697, IX-79)= lem-o (1520, VIII-244) lemurian-o (1527, VIII-244) leng-o (1494, VIII-244)= Leono (1511, IX-183) lig-uro (1953, IX-79) lipotimi-o (1922, IX-79) lito-t= ableto (1773, IX-79) luciol-o (1528, VIII-244) ludion-o (1495, VIII-244) lu= d-sonali-o (1598, VIII-244) maish-ar (1677, IX-80) male-ar, -ebla (1529, IX= -79) mal-jermoz-a (1892, IX-81) mama, -i (1676, IX-83) Mamon-o (1645, IX-80= ) Mande-o, -a (1604, VIII-244) Mandjur-o (1717, IX-80) martin-peskero (1531= , IX-79) melon-kaktuso (1757, IX-80) menad-o (1496, IX-79) mens-o (1926, IX= -81) merko-vorto (1488, IX-79) meson-ar (1803, IX-81) metilen-o (1922, IX-8= 1) mezotint-o (1693, IX-80) miaul-ar (1606, IX-80) miliari-o (1666, IX-80) = Moab, -idi (1604, VIII-244; 1656, VIII-244) Moabi-a, -ani (1604, VIII-244; = 1657, VIII-244) molos-o (1535, IX-79) Mongol-o (1758, IX-81) monsinior-o (1= 984, IX-81) mulier-o (1572, IX-80) mulur-o (1463, IX-79) muskardin-o (1922,= IX-81) Nabate-i, a (1604, VIII-244) neofit-o (1972, IX-81) nigra anad-o (1= 530, IX-81) omn-ivoro (1808, VIII-196) On adoptis kom INTEGRA vorti medicin= ala -ezo (1655, VIII-98) On adoptis kom INTEGRA vorti medicinala anestezi-o= (ja existanta) ed altri -estezio (1655, VIII-98) On adoptis kom INTEGRA vo= rti medicinala analgezi-o ed altri -algezio (1655, VIII-99) onagr-o (1499, = IX-82) orelion-o (1540, IX-82) orvietan-o (1500, IX-82) osteotomi-o (1922, = IX-82) palisad-o (1501, IX-82) papa, -i (1676, IX-83) papay-o, -iero (1502,= IX-82) parezio (1655, VIII-98) parlement-ar (1624, IX-83) parotidit-o (153= 9, IX-82) parulis-o (1922, IX-84) patristik-o (1566, IX-83) patrologi-o (15= 65, IX-83) pederast-o (1503, IX-82) pili-o (1536, IX-82) pitagor-ala (1679,= IX-83) pitonis-o (1504, IX-82) plankton-o (1692, IX-83) pluvial-o (1542, I= X-83) pneumokok-o (1922, IX-83) pomer-hundo (1650, IX-83) produt-o (1923, I= X-84) proklitik-a, -o (1505, IX-82) proleps-o (1506, IX-82) pron-ar, -o (15= 38, IX-82) psikos-o (1702, IX-83) putativ-a (1923, IX-84; 1935, IX-84) quir= l-ar (1522, IX-176) radiac-ar (1807, IX-177) radiator-o (1938, IX-178) rali= -ar (1938, IX-178) recepcion-ar (1603, IX-177) redan-o (1937, IX-177) rektu= moptos-o (1937, IX-177) reminic-ar (1938, IX-178) renatur-ar (1793, IX-177)= repas-ar, -istino, -erio (1801, IX-177) resek-ar (1951, IX-178) reson-ar (= 1938, IX-178) revu-ar, -o (1940, IX-178) rezurekt-ar (1621, IX-177) risol-a= r (1548, IX-176) roler-o (1974, IX-178) rotol-ar (1585, IX-177) Sadism-o (1= 778, IX-180) salp-o (1759, IX-179) sani-o (1938, IX-180) santolin-o (1549, = IX-178) savori-o (1663, IX-179) sejorn-ar (1455, IX-178) seml-o (1627, IX-1= 79) shovin-o, -a, -ismo, -isto, -eso (1681, IX-179; 1682, IX-179) silen-o (= 1947, IX-180) silurian-a (1632, IX-179) sinkron-a (1947, IX-180) sintez-ar = (1916, IX-180) Siriaka (1604, VIII-244) sism-o (1760, IX-179) Skorpiono (15= 11, IX-183) skript-ar, -ero, -isto (1674, IX-179) spadic-o (1646, IX-179) s= pok-o (1806, IX-180) stafisagr-o (1550, IX-179) stativ-o (1702, IX-179) sta= tor-o (1777, IX-179) stenotip-ar, -isto, -istino (1955, IX-180) stigmat-o (= 1507, IX-178) stip-o (1946, IX-180) stipit-o (1947, IX-180) stipul-o (1570,= IX-179) streke-grab-ar, -ado, -uro, -isto (1950, IX-180) stren-ar (1551, I= X-179) streptokok-o (1955, IX-180) strop-o (1583, IX-179) strum-o (1938, IX= -180) submision-ar (1468, IX-178) suci-ar (1462, IX-178) sufraj-o (1949, IX= -180) sufuzion-o (1571, IX-179) sunros-o (1896, IX-180) tak-eto (1548, IX-1= 81) Tauro (1511, IX-183) temp-ivora (1808, VIII-196) Tigre-ana (1604, VIII-= 244) triplik-o (1937, IX-181) troglodit-o (1552, IX-181) tuberkulin-o (1955= , IX-181) Turkoman-o, -i (1799, IX-181) uf! (1943, IX-182) urbari-o, -ala (= 1955, IX-182) urso blanka (1647, IX-182) usher-o (1580, IX-182) valenc-o, -= a (1678, IX-182) Varsero (1511, IX-183) vendemi-ar (1804, IX-182) Venus-har= o (1752, IX-182) Venus-zono (1720, IX-182) vetiver-o (1553, IX-182) Virgino= (1511, IX-183) warp-o (1457, IX-183) xeroform-o (1761, IX-183) zodiakala s= telari (1511, IX-183) zoofit-o (1584, IX-183) > *Vorti stranjera: aethaliu= m (1964, VIII-50) alpari (1978, VIII-50) Ampelopsis (1980, IX-81) Apteryx (= 1980, IX-81) Boconia (1980, IX-81) Buddleia (1980, IX-81) Diplodocus (1980,= IX-81) edelweiss (1641, VIII-98) Elzevir (1905, VIII-124) fascia (1904, VI= II-126) iktus (1824, VIII-196) kalpak (1900, VIII-244) Lied (1952, IX-79) Q= uagga (1785, IX-176 > *Nova afixi: equi- (1904, VIII-100) -ivora, -ivoro (= 1808, VIII-196) mikro- (1922, IX-81) pseudo- (1629, IX-83) > *Radiki chanj= ita o precizigita: ank(e) (1969, VIII-50) ankor(e) (1969, VIII-50) apen(e) = (1969, VIII-50) ante (1611, VIII-49) auspic-o (1977, VIII-50) avan, -e (161= 1, VIII-49) bandaj-o (1599, VIII-51) bedel-o (1579, VIII-51) bi-ciklo (1685= , VIII-96) brac-o (1543, VIII-51) dop, -e (1611, VIII-49) dub-ar (1927, VII= I-98) etik-o, -oza, sen- -a (1965, VIII-124) flur-o (1686, VIII-126) foto-l= itografar (1675, VIII-126) foto-taktismo (1675, VIII-126) foto-tropismo (16= 75, VIII-126) foto-sfero (1675, VIII-126) grandanombra (1700, IX-80) gruz-o= (1690, VIII-128) ignor-ar (1966, VIII-196) iktus-o (1824, VIII-196) intele= kt-ar (VIII-131) irga (1699, VIII-131) kand(e) (1969, VIII-50) kaprikorn-o = (1648, VIII-243) konstat-ar (1574, VIII-199) mor-ala (1965, VIII-124) multa= (1700, IX-80) museron-o (1710, IX-80) nombroza (1700, IX-80) patro (VIII-1= 27) pos (1611, VIII-49) profesor-o (1665, IX-83) remark-ar (1573, IX-177) r= etrakt-ar (1694, IX-177) skalio (1517, IX-178) squamo (1517, IX-178) tandem= (1967, IX-181) termostat-o (1948, IX-181) tetras-o (1691, IX-181) tifon-o = (1955, IX-181) tipograf-ar, -(art)o, -isto, -erio, -ala (1948, IX-181) tisu= -o (1937, IX-181) told-o (1930, IX-181) trakom-o (1702, IX-181) trans-Atlan= tik-a (1683, IX-181) travertin-o (1955, IX-181) tri-ciklo (1685, VIII-96) w= ato (1788, VIII-127) yen, -a, -e, - ke (1687, IX-183; 1688, IX-183; 1689, I= X-183) > *Afixi chanjita o precizigita: -ajo (1630, VIII-49) > *Expresuri= : duople, duime granda kam (1634, VIII-97) duro sequos, fino sequos (1667, = VIII-97) edukar animali (1563, VIII-98) es la triesma kloko (1670, VIII-243= ) imprim-prob-ar, -uro (1672, VIII-131) La yari inter 40 e 50 (1469, IX-183= ) > *Gramatiko: baptonomi (1934, VIII-96) Derivuri per -um (1556, IX-182) = eliziono di -as (VIII-127) fizikal unaji (1788, VIII-127) irga (1699, VIII-= 131) mayuskuli, mayuskulo dil radiko (1713, IX-80) Ne devar..., devar ne...= (1456, IX-81) Nomi di planti o bestii (1980, IX-81) -o (1934, VIII-96) Plu= ralo di vorti stranjera (1578, IX-83) pluralo en kompozita vorti (1782, IX-= 83) su, -a (1968, IX-180) > *Vorti supresita: gepatri moralo (1965, VIII-1= 24) > Or Pesch misterioze mankas MULTA decidi dal Akademio. Yen exemplo kr= onologial: > dec. 1938: radiatoro, prezenta che Pesch; raliar, prezenta ch= e Pesch; reminicar, prezenta che Pesch; resonar, prezenta che Pesch; sanio,= prezenta che Pesch; strumo, prezenta che Pesch dec. 1940: revuar, prezenta= che Pesch; revuo, absenta che Pesch dec. 1943: uf!, prezenta che Pesch dec= . 1946: stipo, prezenta che Pesch dec. 1947: sileno, prezenta che Pesch dec= . 1948: termostato, prezenta che Pesch=E2=80=A6 kun asterisko! dec. 1949: s= ufrajo, absenta che Pesch dec. 1951: resekar, prezenta che Pesch dec. 1954:= stenotipar, prezenta che Pesch dec. 1959: genitori, prezenta che Pesch dec= . 1966: ignorar, absenta che Pesch dec. 1967: tandem, prezenta che Pesch de= c. 1968: su, absenta che Pesch (ma repulsita dal Akademio posa) dec. 1969: = ank, ankor, apen, kand, absenta che Pesch dec. 1970: aerografo, absenta che= Pesch dec. 1972: neofito, absenta che Pesch dec. 1973: anamnezar, absenta = che Pesch dec. 1974: rolero, prezenta che Pesch dec. 1977: asterisko, preze= nta che Pesch dec. 1978: =C2=ABalpari=C2=BB, prezenta che Pesch dec. 1980: = =C2=ABAmpelopsis=C2=BB, on trovas *ampelopso (sen asterisko) che Pesch dec.= 1981: jolia, absenta che Pesch dec. 1984: monsiniono, prezenta che Pesch = > Nu, quo eventis? Ka tanta vorti nultempe oficaleskis? To esus absurda, na= m plura vorti es ya bona e trovata en nia dicionarii (jolia, exemple). Li a= nke trovesas la la Lexiki de Nova Vorti. Do ka Pesch =C2=ABobliviis=C2=BB o= =C2=ABperdis=C2=BB la vorti sur karteti (o, segun il, fiji)? To anke sembl= as esar povra hipotezo, nam es tro multa =C2=ABperdita=C2=BB vorti. Me do k= onkluzas ke Pesch simple ne konsideris la Akademio kom autoritatoza=E2=80= =A6 > Ultre to, la Lexiko de Nova Vorti (Cock) es tre eroroza, exemple ol = indikas, ke =C2=ABenrejistrar=C2=BB adoptesis en 1931. Or es nula menciono = di ta oficaligo en la Raporto dil Akademio Interimal (trovebla en Progreso)= , ed ol mem mencionesas kom vorto propozita en la Raporto dil Akademio Posa= ! Simile =C2=ABajuna=C2=BB, =C2=ABekritar=C2=BB, =C2=ABelaborar=C2=BB, =C2= =ABparisilabika=C2=BB, =C2=ABrotoro=C2=BB, =C2=ABlineamento=C2=BB, =C2=ABko= ronero=C2=BB, edc. ne adoptesis dal Akademio Interimala, segun to quon me s= erchis. > Fakte, me mem trovis ta remarko en la Raporto da Roze pri la vor= to =C2=ABenrejistrar=C2=BB: =C2=ABpropozita B. F-I. 502; aceptesis, supozen= de, dal =C2=ABguideri=C2=BB, pag. 537=C2=BB > Per agnoskar la oficaleso di= =C2=ABenrejistrar=C2=BB en 1931, la Lexiko de Nova Vorti do suportas, part= e o komplete, la partiso di Marcel Pesch e di Louis de Beaufront. La dicion= ario da Pesch, evidente, anke reprezentas la Guideri kom autoritato. Or ka = la decidi dal Akademio di la lora ULI anke es oficala? > Meze di la listo,= quan me jus prizentis, yen la maxim kurioza kontredici inter la Akademio e= Pesch: > Pesch konsideras =C2=ABampelopso=C2=BB oficala. La lora Akademio= vice adoptis =C2=ABAmpelopsis=C2=BB (ed altri, tal quala =C2=ABDiplodocus= =C2=BB) kom stranjera vorti. > La lora Akademio donis nova defino a la vor= to =C2=ABignorar=C2=BB (nevole nesavar, ne konocar). Pesch kontenas nur la = olima defino. > La Akademio adoptis la darfo remplasigar -as, -is e -os en= propra nomi da -o (Andreas =3D Andreo). Me vidas nula menciono di ta darfo= altraloke. > Pesch konsideras =C2=ABwato=C2=BB, =C2=ABvolto=C2=BB, e.c. k= om oficala. La Akademio remplasigis li da stranjera vorti=E2=80=94=C2=ABwat= t=C2=BB, =C2=ABvolt=C2=BB=E2=80=94ed adoptis plusa stranjera vorti, tal qua= l =C2=ABhenry=C2=BB. > Pesch anke kontenas vorti tote misterioza, tal qual= =C2=ABfijo=C2=BB,=C2=A0sen steleto, dum ke nul altra fonto mencionas lia o= ficaligo. > Regretinde, me ne trovis la decido 1902 (por =C2=ABdodekaedro= =C2=BB, i.a.) en Progreso. > Yen do mea konkluzo: ni nun havas mixuro de d= u =C2=ABoficala=C2=BB Ido: la Ido dil Akademio Interimala, kun lua =C2=ABau= spicio=C2=BB, =C2=ABjolia=C2=BB edc., e la Ido dil =C2=ABguideri=C2=BB, kun= lia =C2=ABenrejistrar=C2=BB, =C2=ABestado=C2=BB, edc. Regretinde la Lexiki= de Nova Vorti semblas nule facir ta remarko. > Ho, e Lo=C3=AFc, vu skribi= s *denove, qua repulsesis en 1955, ka ne? > Kara samideani, Pos diskutir k= un Gon=C3=A7alo Neves, Brian Drake, ed olim kun Jean Martignon, me komprena= s, ke la pasinto di nia linguo ya es nekoheranta e nelogikala, e ke lua fut= uro necese esos ankore nekoheranta e nelogikala. Or ni ne perdez nia skopo!= La chefa skopo di nia linguo es: > La meilleure langue internationale est= celle qui pr=C3=A9sente la plus grande facilit=C3=A9 pour le plus grand no= mbre d'hommes. (Dictionnaire International-Fran=C3=A7ais, 1908, p. V) > Om= na konocas (e devas konocar) ta principo, qua tradukesas tale: > La maxim = bona linguo internaciona es ta, qua prizentas la maxim granda facileso a la= maxim multa homi. > Nia linguo, la linguo internaciona di la Delegitaro (= Ido), ya devas esar =C2=ABfacila pri lernar, facila pri uzar e facila pri k= omprenar=C2=BB (sama fonto, sama pagino). Kad es menciono di logiko en ta m= oto? No! Nam facileso plu importas kam logiko, e quale lon dicis Louis Cout= urat, ni ne esez pedanti. La logiko helpez la facileso, ne lo inversa! To e= s pro quo me kredas, ke ni devas adoptar la sequanta konduto por la futuro = di nia linguo: > 1. Ni devas konsidar la chanji pasinta di nia linguo, qui= ignoresis (malgre lia =C2=ABoficaleso=C2=BB) e ne es aplikata hodie dal ld= istaro, kom neoficala e rikonsiderenda da futura Linguala Komitato (od Akad= emio). To inkluzas la vorto =C2=ABignorar=C2=BB, la konjunciono =C2=ABvel= =C2=BB, la refuzo di chanjar =C2=ABcizelar=C2=BB ed altra verbi a =C2=ABciz= elagar=C2=BB e simile (refuzo qua facesis en 1951, segun mea kompreno), la = adopto di =C2=ABwatt=C2=BB vice =C2=ABwato=C2=BB, edc. > 2. Ni devas cesar= regardar omna =C2=ABerori=C2=BB kun arogo, ed abandonar la preskriptivista= atitudo quan nia pioniri havis (exemple pri =C2=ABnevrologio=C2=BB). Por i= gar nia linguo plu facila, ni analizez la maxim frequa erori vortarala di n= ia linguo (i.a. =C2=ABobskura=C2=BB, =C2=ABsuperba=C2=BB, =C2=ABmomento=C2= =BB, =C2=ABhola=C2=BB) e ni chanjez nia linguo por adaptar lu al komuna uza= do (ex., *superba signifikez =C2=ABbelega=C2=BB, e la nuna =C2=ABsuperba=C2= =BB divenez *orgolioza; *momento signifikez =C2=ABinstanto=C2=BB, *instanto= signifikez =C2=ABinstanteto=C2=BB, e =C2=ABmomento=C2=BB divenez *momentum= o; =C2=ABhola!=C2=BB signifikez =C2=ABsaluto!=C2=BB). Nia linguo esez lingu= o praktikala, ne teoriala. > Me nun judikas, ke me sat skribis. Me vartas = respondi. > Amikale, Gilles-Philippe > P.S. Certe, en tante longa mesajo,= me facis multa erori. Voluntez informar me pri irga erori o nekompletaji, = quin vi trovas! > > ---In idolisto@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > > Kara= =C2=A0 Gilles-Philippe, > > Danko pro vua interesanta questiono ad ULI. = > Probable la DK di ULI ne respondos rapide a vua questiono pro ke segun qu= on me savas la nuna DK ne ankor respondis a tala questiono. Do=C2=A0 intern= a diskuto esos necesa e=C2=A0 forsan=C2=A0 mem l'apliko di sequanta artiklo= 26 di la statuti di ULI : > =C2=A7 26.=C2=A0 "Por esar diskutata, omna gr= ava questioni decidenda dal Direktanta Komitato es publikigenda en > l'ofic= al organo adminime 3 monati ante la komenco dil voto." > > Vartante esus i= nteresanta savar=C2=A0 quo exemple povas pensigar a vu=C2=A0 ke la nuna Ido= movado jonglas kun du Ido diferanta, qui deskonkordas l'una kun l'altra? >= > Mea personala opiniono esas lo sequanta: > Pri la Akademio Interimala (= 1924-1930), la Akademio Posa (1931-1933) decidis segun olua decido 1977 (19= 77-a segun J. Roze) la ridiskuto ed eventuala modifiko di omna posmilita de= cidi de 1426 til 1976 dil=C2=A0 Akademio Interimal. To=C2=A0 koncernis=C2= =A0 nur la vortaro=C2=A0 e=C2=A0 Janis Roze publikigis la listo di vorti gr= and parte steletizita=C2=A0 en PROGRESO N=C2=B0 81-82-83-84-85 yaro 1931 e= =C2=A0 N=C2=B0 88-90 yaro 1932 . > Depos me konstatis ke la 10 000 radiki d= a Marcel Pesch publikigita en 1964 kontenis ca listo de vorti ma sen stelet= o.=C2=A0 Me ne savas se oficala decido di ULI eventis pri to. Sendubite la = respondo esas en PROGRESO ma desfortune omna numeri di PROGRESO ne esas ank= or disponebla ad omni per interreto. > > On mustas anke konsiderar ke seg= un l'artiklo 1 di statuti "La Uniono konsideras la linguo internaciona=C2= =A0 Ido=C2=A0 ne kom perfekta e netushebla, ma kom sempre perfektigebla".= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Do omna decido antea povus ridiskutesar e chanjesar se necesa = da la membri di ULI. > > Pri la gramatiko esas altra afero plu grava ! Me= ne konocas la diversa propozi dil=C2=A0 Akademio Interimala (1924-1930) pu= bligita en MONDO=C2=A0 qui duktis a la skismo di 1929 kun migro di grand pa= rto di Idisti reformema ad Occidental e Novial. To interesus me konocar la = detaloza propozi di ca-epoko.=C2=A0 La propozi dil=C2=A0 Akademio Posa (193= 1-1933) esas plu facile acesebla=C2=A0 pro ke oli esas en PROGRESO dil yari= 1931-1933.=C2=A0=C2=A0 La revizo dil linguo facita da la Akademio Posa=C2= =A0 komencis per generala diskuto pri la fonetiko propozita da la sekretari= o Stefano Bakonyi e qua duktis al provizora konkluzi publikigita en=C2=A0 P= ROGRESO N=C2=B0 85. Ma sequis deskonkordo inter la partisani di klasika Ido= e la partisani di Stefano Bakonyi. En PROGRESO N=C2=B097 oktobro 1933=C2= =A0 la nomo di Stefano Bakonyi ne plu aparas kom membro dil=C2=A0 Akademio.= Forsan il ja migris ad Interlingua ? E dum la prezidanteso di=C2=A0 S. Qua= rfood qua esis=C2=A0 partisano di klasika Ido, l'Akademio decidis periodo d= i stabileso duronta 5 yari de la 1. 1. 1934. > - 1. Dum ca periodo nula dis= kuti pri chanji darfas eventar en =C2=ABProgreso=C2=BB. > - 2. Nula chanji = en la fundamentala strukturo di Ido facesos dum la sama tempo. > - 3. Publ= ikigeso di nova vorti eventos quale til nun segun bezono. > - 4. La tasko = dil Akademio esas dum ca periodo examenar, kad e quale Ido ev. devas modifi= kesar. > - 5. Pos la fino dil periodo la Akademio publikigos la rezultajo e= decidos segun olu. > > Ma pos la fino dil periodo di stabileso=C2=A0 even= tis la duesma milito ...=C2=A0 > Me kredas ke la decido 1 esis tre regreti= nda pro ke ol impedis omna progreso di la linguo. > Forsan ula diskuti dil= Akademio Posa en PROGRESO povos denove fruktifikar ed abutar a plubonigar = Ido? > > Kordiale > Lo=C3=AFc Landais > =C2=A0 > =C2=A0 > =C2=A0 > = =C2=A0 > Message du 21/03/17 05:17 > > De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzd= kud6blkwtilb@... [idolisto]" > > A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com > > Copie = =C3=A0 : > > Objet : [idolisto] Pri la ULI > > > > > > Kara samideani, >= > Me facas grava exploro di nia linguo, e quante plu me vidas klare, tante= plu me vidas duople. > > > > > > Semblas a me, ke la nuna Idomovado jo= nglas kun du Ido diferanta, qui deskonkordas l'una kun l'altra. No, me ne p= arolas pri la skismo kun Tiberio Madonna, ma pri skismo anteriora, qua anko= re facas cikatro. > > > > > > Me deziras savar, quo es la pozeso ofical= a di la nuna Uniono por la Linguo Internaciona pri la Skismo di 1929. Ka lu= aceptas la oficaleso di la Akademio Interimala (1924-1930) di la lora ULI = (e dil Akademio Posa), o kad ol suportas la partiso di Marcelo Persiko e di= Louis de Beaufront kontre la lora ULI? Kad ol suportas amba? > > > > >= > Ta pozeso oficala es tre grava, por decidar pri la nuna stando di nia li= nguo e pri la oficaleso di la Dicionario de la 10.000 radiki da Marcelo Per= siko. Pro manko di klareso, la nuna dicionarii (e specale la Wikivortaro) s= ufras de granda neklareso. Certe, ta bezono di klarigo postulas la laboro d= i futura Linguala Komitato (LK). > > > > > > Me deziras ne perdar tro m= ulta tempo neutile, do me vartas oficala respondo da ULI pri lua pozeso pri= la Skismo ante donar plusa informi pri mea analizo. > > > > > > Kun ko= rdiala saluti, > > Gilles-Philippe =C2=A0 > > =C2=A0 ------=_Part_27710_1407085582.14905713800159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Gilles-Phillipe,
Itere, me respondas a vu ne nome di ULI ma ko= m simpla membro di ULI.
Me l= ektis atenceme vua longa mesajo ed aprobas vua 2 konkluzi.


Pri la listo di vorti, me jus trovis la 2 erori sequanta:
<= span style=3D"font-size: small;">1)=C2=A0 pri "monsinior-o (1984=C2=A0 IX-8= 1)" :
Ne povas esar la decido= 1984 pro ke Janis Roze raportis en 1937 : "Me atencigas, ke en la numerizo= dil decidi dil Akademio Posa semblas insinuir su eroro; nam l'anciena deci= di extensis su til 1981 inkl. "
Do me verifikis en PROGRESO e trovis ke esas la decido 1794 :
=C2=A0monsinior-o (1794, M. XVI): titul= o di princi e prelati. D Hoheit, E I Monsignore, F Monseigneur (M. XII 346)=
2) pri dec. 1966: ignorar, a= bsenta che Pesch :
Yenla def= inuro da M. Pesch:
ignorar : = Refuzar saveskar, konoceskar; vole nesavar, vole nekonocar. =E2=80=93 AFGHI= R


Nun semblas a me necesa ke ULI inventarias omna Idal= a radiki (kun=C2=A0 defino e tradukuro ) qui propozesis dal omna Ido-Akadem= ii, da la sekretarii di linguala questioni e da la Komitato Linguala di ULI= e listizar oli en unika dokumento videbla da omnu .


Ko= rdiale
Lo=C3=AFc Landais

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> Message du 23/03/17 23:56
> De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4u= obzdkud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]"
> A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
> Copie =C3=A0 :
> Obj= et : re: [idolisto] Pri la ULI
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>
Kara Hans,
<= div>Ka to ne es evidenta? Nulu altra kam Tiberio ipsa audacus skribar tala = mesajo. Il pruvis lo per skribar la yena komento (o ka, segun uli, komentur= o?) en la ret-situo Parolez Ido:

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http://li= nguoido.ning.com/profiles/blogs/pri-lo-c-landais

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Kara Tiberio,
Nu, me ya demandis la opiniono oficala da U= LI, ma to nule impedas altri (tal quala Lo=C3=AFc Landais e, yes, anke vu) = informar pri sua opiniono pri la temo. Mea nura intenco esis dicar, ke me n= e volas perdar tempo per skribar mili de vorti pri la analizo ja temporiva,= se to semblus tote neefikiva e neutila (regretinde *ho-mesaje me ya skribi= s mili de vorti=E2=80=A6). On ja tendencas, o mokar ti qui analizas la ling= uo, o propozar senfina chanji teoriala=E2=80=94e me ne mem parolas pri la s= tando di la Linguala Komitato! Pro quo nia societo (o ka, segun altri, komuneso?) es tante polarizita? Me n= e vere serchas respondo (responduro) a ca questiono (questionuro= ).

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Honeste me plu prizus ne lektar kritiko= da vu, ma vice lektar vua propra opiniono pri la temo (mem se vu ne es la = ULI!).

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Kara Lo=C3=AFc,
Danko pr= o la respondo.

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Me ne volas skribar pri omn= a to, quon me analizis en la pasinta semani, sen serioza diskuto dal Uniono= =E2=80=94e ne kun nur UN homo, o Tiberio Madonna, o vu, od irgu altra, mem = kun me ipsa! Tamen, yen kelka elementi, qui igis me sechar pri to, quo esas= vera jonglo (e mem junglo) nuntempa.

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Nu, = me komencez.

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Unesme, semblas a me, ke la f= undamento di la nuna Ido es quar verki: la vortolibri (o, segun l'Akademio = Interimal, vortilibri) da Luther= H. Dyer (1922-1924), la dicionario da Marcel Pesch (1964) e la Lexiki de N= ova Vorti (Camiel de Cock, Robert Carnaghan).

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<= div>Or la quar verki deskonkordas pri plura punti.

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Exemple, Dyer donas =C2=ABcivila stando=C2=BB, dum ke Pesch donas = =C2=ABcivila estado=C2=BB.

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Pesch es anke t= re konfuza pri la defino di =C2=ABcerta=C2=BB e =C2=ABcertena=C2=BB.
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Pesch skribas =C2=ABauspico=C2=BB, dum ke la Lex= iko dicas, ke =C2=ABauspicio=C2=BB es oficala de pos 1929. Ol anke ne indik= as, ke =C2=ABankore=C2=BB, =C2=ABapene=C2=BB, =C2=ABanke=C2=BB e =C2=ABkand= e=C2=BB darfas elizionesar.

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Serchante en P= rogreso, me komprenis, ke la klefo dil misterio es la Akademio Interimal. O= l es ta, qua adoptis la chanji gramatikala e vortarala (delicio, auspicio, = artilrio, ankor, ank, kand, apen, eliziono di -as).

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Segun mea kompreno, omna decidi linguala dal Akademio Interimal (= o preske omna) transskribesis en Progreo. Yen listo de la decidi, quin me n= otis:

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*Nova vorti:
abanik-o (19= 31, VIII-50)
abis-o, -ala (1888, VIII-50)
absters-ar = (1522, VIII-48)
abstinenc-ar (1635, VIII-49)
acinezi-= o (1655, VIII-98)
adenit-o (1932, VIII-50)
adragant-o= (1811, VIII-49)
aerograf-o (1970, VIII-50)
aer-pinse= l-o (1971, VIII-50)
alcedo (1533, VIII-48) [mayuskulo?]
alcion-o (1532, VIII-48)
alini-ar (1712, VIII-49)
= alkald-o (1664, VIII-49)
Amhar-a, -ana (1604, VIII-244)
analgezi-o (1655, VIII-98)
Andorra (1426, VIII-48)
Angora-kapro (1652, VIII-49)
Angora-kato (1652, VIII-49)
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anti-cezaro (1636, VIII-49)
anti-imperiestro (1636, VIII-49= )
aktinik-a, -eso (1929, VIII-50)
anamnez-ar (1973, V= III-50)
aproxim-ar (1800, VIII-49)
Arame-a (1604, VII= I-244)
argalo (1608, VIII-48) [mayuskulo?]
argan-o (1= 482, VIII-48)
Arieto (1511, IX-183)
ariet-o (1510, VI= II-48)
Arkero (1511, IX-183)
armoraci-o (1637, VIII-4= 9)
asterisk-o (1977, VIII-50)
aterom-o (1660, VIII-49= )
auspici-o (1977, VIII-50)
autobus-o (1719, VIII-49)=
avelan-gliro (1706, VIII-128)
Balanc-o (1511)
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bemol-o (1816, VIII-96)
beriberi-o (1593, VIII-51)
bin-ar, -o, -eyo (1802, VIII-95)
blokhaus-o (1639, VIII-51)
blok-umar, -um-ajo, des- -ar (1718, VIII-51)
bodmeri-a= r (1638, VIII-51)
bon-jermoz-a (1892, IX-81)
bosel-ar= (1464, VIII-50)
brechi-o (1651, VIII-51)
buh-o (1809= , VIII-95)
bukmaker-o (1640, VIII-51)
bulin-o (1512, = VIII-51)
Bur-o, -i (1797, VIII-51)
Bushman-o, -i (179= 8, VIII-51)
buz-o (1812, VIII-96)
buzard-o (1813, VII= I-96)
certifik-ar (1702, VIII-96)
chaket-o (1546, VII= I-96)
champinion-o (1659, VIII-96)
chant-o (1814, VII= I-96)
chap-o (1508, VIII-96)
cikl-ismo (1684, VIII-96= )
cirkond-ar (1555, VIII-96)
dazl-ar (1513, VIII-96)<= /div>
debush-ar (1831, VIII-97)
deflegm-ar (1792, VIII-97)<= /div>
dekalkomani-o, facar - (1714, VIII-97)
demotik-a (183= 2, VIII-97)
deserv-ar (1833, VIII-97)
detach-ar (1834= , VIII-97)
diakilon-o (1895, VIII-98)
diakonis-o (151= 5, VIII-97)
Direktori-o (1835, VIII-97)
distint-a (17= 02, VIII-97)
dominikan-o (1836, VIII-98)
dorso-salto = (1609, VIII-97)
drezin-o (1707, VIII-97)
dront-o (154= 7, VIII-97)
dubit-ar (1927, VIII-98)
duplik-o (1810, = VIII-97)
eciz-ar, -o (1904, VIII-100)
eficient-a (193= 3, VIII-124)
eglefin-o (1912, VIII-124)
egotism-o (18= 37, VIII-99)
egotist-o (1837, VIII-99)
elektrologi-o = (1838, VIII-99)
elektrometr-o (1851, VIII-100)
elektr= ometri-o (1851, VIII-100)
elektroskop-o (1851, VIII-100; 1908, V= III-124)
elektroskopi-o (1909, VIII-124)
elevator-o (= 1907, VIII-124)
Elize-o (1840, VIII-99)
elongacion-o = (1840, VIII-99)
embalm-ar, -o, -igar, -ero, -isto, -ilo (1915, V= III-124)
emetik-o (1910, VIII-124)
enciklik-o (1841, = VIII-99)
endokardi-o (1911, VIII-124)
energi-ivora (1= 808, VIII-196)
enorm-a (1544, VIII-98)
enterit-o (184= 2, VIII-99)
enukle-ar (1913, VIII-124)
envi-o (1642, = VIII-98)
Eoli-ana (1436, VIII-98)
eozin-o (1843, VIII= -99)
epicikl-o (1844, VIII-99)
epicikloid-o (1845, VI= II-99)
epifit-a, -o (1846, VIII-99)
epiglot-o (1847, = VIII-99)
epigon-o (1848, VIII-100)
epigrafi-o (1904, = VIII-100)
epulis-o (1904, VIII-100)
equipol-ar (1848,= VIII-100)
erekt-ar (1465, VIII-98)
ekonomik-o (1633,= VIII-98)
endermik-a (1904, VIII-124)
epigraf-o (1665= , VIII-98)
ering-o (1849, VIII-100)
erod-ar (1622, VI= II-98)
erv-o (1853, VIII-100)
eskarbil-o (1854, VIII-= 100)
eshelon-o (172, VIII-99)
etalon-o (1928, VIII-12= 4)
etmoid-o (1855, VIII-100)
eudiometri-o (1856, VIII= -100; 1856, VIII-195)
exantem-tifo (1643, VIII-98)
ex= ark-o (1857, VIII-100)
exasper-ar (1715, VIII-99)
exk= ardin-ar (1796, VIII-195)
exostos-o (1858, VIII-100)
= exulcer-o (1817, VIII-99)
faktitiv-a (1722, VIII-126)
fakultativ-a (1859, VIII-125)
fanerogam-a, -o (1860, VIII-125)<= /div>
febro purpurea (1643, VIII-98)
fenacetin-o (1861, VII= I-125)
Festo dil kristo-korpo (1771, VIII-126)
fik-o = (1862, VIII-125)
fikari-o (1863, VIII-125)
filament-o= (1873, VIII-125)
finis-ar (1466, VIII-126)
fioritur-= o (1602, VIII-126)
fish-ivora (1808, VIII-196)
Fishi = (1511, IX-183)
fiziognomoni-o (1864, VIII-125)
flatul= ent-a, -eso (1818, VIII-125)
flundr-o (1779, VIII-126)
folklor-o (1607, VIII-126)
fonetism-o (1819, VIII-125)
<= div>fong-o, -oza (1820, VIII-125)
formulari-o (1698, VIII-126)
foronomi-o (1815, VIII-125)
fotel-o (1805, VIII-125)
fot-o (1675, VIII-126)
foto-terapio (1658, VIII-126; 1= 675, VIII-126)
foxtrot-o (1852, VIII-125)
Franciskan-= o (1865, VIII-125)
frist-o (1467, VIII-126)
frukt-ivo= ra (1808, VIII-196)
furnaz-o (1898, VIII-126)
garden-= gliro (1706, VIII-128)
gastralgi-o (1866, VIII-128)
g= enerator-o (1867, VIII-128)
genitor-i (1959, VIII-129)
geocentral-a (1868, VIII-128)
Georg-ismo, -isto (1885, VIII-12= 8)
gild-o (1490, VIII-128)
glaukom-o (1869, VIII-128)=
gobelin-tapeto (1708, VIII-128)
gobelin-tapiso (1708= , VIII-128)
goniometr-o (1870, VIII-128)
goniometri-o= (1870, VIII-128)
grafism-o (1917, VIII-129)
grib-o, = -i (1709, VIII-128)
Gruzi-a (1509, VIII-128)
gulyash-= o (1723, VIII-128)
halogen-o (1871, VIII-129)
halon-o= (1872, VIII-129)
haltik-o (1899, VIII-130)
halux-o (1= 874, VIII-129)
haptik-o, -ala (1673, VIII-129)
hedera= ce-o (1875, VIII-129)
hektowatt (1724, VIII-129; 1788, VIII-127)=
heliantem-o nan-folia (1644, VIII-129)
heliocentral-= a (1876, VIII-130)
heliometr-o (1877, VIII-130)
helio= stat-o (1878, VIII-130)
hemiplegi-o (1879, VIII-130)
= hemoragi-o (1880, VIII-130)
hepatit-o (1880, VIII-130)
heuristik-o (1780, VIII-129)
hibern-ar (1893, VIII-130)
=
hidrocefal-a, -o (1882, VIII-130)
hidroquinon-o (1883, VIII= -130)
higroskop-o, -a (1884, VIII-130)
histerezometr-= o (1887, VIII-130)
hola! (1702, VIII-129)
hop! (1702,= VIII-129)
hu! (1702, VIII-129)
hum! (1702, VIII-129)=
imaginar-a (1702, VIII-132)
imens-a (1545, VIII-131)=
imol-ar (1702, VIII-132)
inanicion-o (1432, VIII-130= )
incident-a frazo (1600, VIII-131)
indicion-o (1780,= VIII-133)
indikator-o (1781, VIII-133)
induktor-o (1= 725, VIII-132)
induljenc-o (1726, VIII-132)
indult-o = (1726, VIII-132)
infinitezim-a, -o (1728, VIII-132)
i= nfix-o (1729, VIII-132)
infloresenc-o (1432, VIII-130)
ingest-ar (1582, VIII-131)
inkardin-ar (1795, VIII-195)
=
inkarnac-ar, -o (1730, VIII-132)
inkur-ar (1702, VIII-132)<= /div>
insekt-ivora (1731, VIII-196; 1808, VIII-196)
instil-= ar (1732, VIII-132)
intendanc-o (1784, VIII-196)
inte= rnacional-o, -ismo, -isto (1669, VIII-131)
inul-o (1733, VIII-13= 2)
interogativ-a, -o (1829, VIII-196)
intumec-ar (143= 4, VIII-130)
intusucepcion-o (1483, VIII-131)
invagin= -ar (1435, VIII-130)
iodoform-o (1734, VIII-132)
ioni= k-a (1436, VIII-131)
islam-o (1437, VIII-131)
izocel-= a (1735, VIII-132)
izogon-a (1736, VIII-132)
izografi= k-a (1737, VIII-133)
izoklin-a (1738, VIII-133)
izokr= on-a, -eso (1739, VIII-133)
izometr-a (1740, VIII-133)
izoperimetr-a (1741, VIII-133)
izotop-a (1742, VIII-133)
=
izotrop-a (1743, VIII-133)
Jemeli (1511, IX-183)
jenjivit-o (1744, VIII-196)
joli-a (1981, VIII-196)
jugular-a (1745, VIII-196)
juras-ala (1631, VIII-196)
juri-o (1516, VIII-196)
kachu-o (1438, VIII-197)
ka= fein-o (VIII-197)
kafr-o (VIII-197)
kagul-o (1439, VI= II-197)
kak-ar (1524, VIII-199)
kakexi-o (1748, VIII-= 197)
kalam-o (1749, VIII-197)
kalcedon-o (1440, VIII-= 197)
kalefakt-ar (1441, VIII-197)
kalkane-o (1783, VI= II-198)
kalorimetr-o (1790, VIII-198)
kalorimetri-ar,= -o (1790, VIII-198)
kamali-o (1750, VIII-197)
kamari= li-o (1751, VIII-198)
Kanaan, -ana (1604, VIII-244)
k= anetili-o (1442, VIII-197)
Kankro (1511, IX-183)
kant= abil-o (VIII-243)
kapitul-o (1753, VIII-198)
Kaprikor= no (1511, IX-183)
kaprimulg-o (1443, VIII-197)
kapuch= in-o (1649, VIII-243)
kapucino-simio (1754, VIII-198)
kardamin-o (1444, VIII-197)
karn-ivora (1808, VIII-196)
<= div>karpologi-o, -a (1661, VIII-243)
kartuzi-o (1484, VIII-198)<= /div>
karunkl-o (1446, VIII-197)
katam-o (1445, VIII-197)
katis-ar (1447, VIII-197)
kaul-pierido (1786, VIII-244= )
kenel-o (1449, VIII-198)
kermes-o (1486, VIII-199)<= /div>
kilowatt (1755, VIII-198; 1788, VIII-127)
klin-ar (14= 49, VIII-198)
koit-ar (1617, VIII-243)
kolumn-o (1429= , VIII-197)
koluzion-ar (1450, VIII-198)
koma-o (1826= , VIII-243)
komic-o (1451, VIII-198)
kondomini-ar, -o= (1487, VIII-199)
konfluant-a (1827, VIII-243)
konkup= icenc-o (1921, VIII-244)
konkusion-ar (1452, VIII-198)
konquasant-a (1828, VIII-243)
kordo-ponteto (1662, VIII-243)
krateg-pierid-o (1786, VIII-244)
kupro-grabar (1950, I= X-180)
kurbatur-ar (1453, VIII-198)
kuret-o, -agar (1= 594, VIII-199; 1594, VIII-243)
laktos-o (1756, IX-79)
lal-ar (1922, IX-79)
latani-o, -bero (1526, VIII-244)
Latv-a, -ia (1697, IX-79)
lem-o (1520, VIII-244)
le= murian-o (1527, VIII-244)
leng-o (1494, VIII-244)
Leo= no (1511, IX-183)
lig-uro (1953, IX-79)
lipotimi-o (1= 922, IX-79)
lito-tableto (1773, IX-79)
luciol-o (1528= , VIII-244)
ludion-o (1495, VIII-244)
lud-sonali-o (1= 598, VIII-244)
maish-ar (1677, IX-80)
male-ar, -ebla = (1529, IX-79)
mal-jermoz-a (1892, IX-81)
mama, -i (16= 76, IX-83)
Mamon-o (1645, IX-80)
Mande-o, -a (1604, V= III-244)
Mandjur-o (1717, IX-80)
martin-peskero (1531= , IX-79)
melon-kaktuso (1757, IX-80)
menad-o (1496, I= X-79)
mens-o (1926, IX-81)
merko-vorto (1488, IX-79)<= /div>
meson-ar (1803, IX-81)
metilen-o (1922, IX-81)
=
mezotint-o (1693, IX-80)
miaul-ar (1606, IX-80)
= miliari-o (1666, IX-80)
Moab, -idi (1604, VIII-244; 1656, VIII-2= 44)
Moabi-a, -ani (1604, VIII-244; 1657, VIII-244)
mo= los-o (1535, IX-79)
Mongol-o (1758, IX-81)
monsinior-= o (1984, IX-81)
mulier-o (1572, IX-80)
mulur-o (1463,= IX-79)
muskardin-o (1922, IX-81)
Nabate-i, a (1604, = VIII-244)
neofit-o (1972, IX-81)
nigra anad-o (1530, = IX-81)
omn-ivoro (1808, VIII-196)
On adoptis kom INTE= GRA vorti medicinala -ezo (1655, VIII-98)
On adoptis kom INTEGRA= vorti medicinala anestezi-o (ja existanta) ed altri -estezio (1655, VIII-9= 8)
On adoptis kom INTEGRA vorti medicinala analgezi-o ed altri -= algezio (1655, VIII-99)
onagr-o (1499, IX-82)
orelion= -o (1540, IX-82)
orvietan-o (1500, IX-82)
osteotomi-o= (1922, IX-82)
palisad-o (1501, IX-82)
papa, -i (1676= , IX-83)
papay-o, -iero (1502, IX-82)
parezio (1655, = VIII-98)
parlement-ar (1624, IX-83)
parotidit-o (1539= , IX-82)
parulis-o (1922, IX-84)
patristik-o (1566, I= X-83)
patrologi-o (1565, IX-83)
pederast-o (1503, IX-= 82)
pili-o (1536, IX-82)
pitagor-ala (1679, IX-83)
pitonis-o (1504, IX-82)
plankton-o (1692, IX-83)
=
pluvial-o (1542, IX-83)
pneumokok-o (1922, IX-83)
pomer-hundo (1650, IX-83)
produt-o (1923, IX-84)
pr= oklitik-a, -o (1505, IX-82)
proleps-o (1506, IX-82)
p= ron-ar, -o (1538, IX-82)
psikos-o (1702, IX-83)
putat= iv-a (1923, IX-84; 1935, IX-84)
quirl-ar (1522, IX-176)
radiac-ar (1807, IX-177)
radiator-o (1938, IX-178)
rali-ar (1938, IX-178)
recepcion-ar (1603, IX-177)
r= edan-o (1937, IX-177)
rektumoptos-o (1937, IX-177)
re= minic-ar (1938, IX-178)
renatur-ar (1793, IX-177)
rep= as-ar, -istino, -erio (1801, IX-177)
resek-ar (1951, IX-178)
reson-ar (1938, IX-178)
revu-ar, -o (1940, IX-178)
=
rezurekt-ar (1621, IX-177)
risol-ar (1548, IX-176)
<= div>roler-o (1974, IX-178)
rotol-ar (1585, IX-177)
Sa= dism-o (1778, IX-180)
salp-o (1759, IX-179)
sani-o (1= 938, IX-180)
santolin-o (1549, IX-178)
savori-o (1663= , IX-179)
sejorn-ar (1455, IX-178)
seml-o (1627, IX-1= 79)
shovin-o, -a, -ismo, -isto, -eso (1681, IX-179; 1682, IX-179= )
silen-o (1947, IX-180)
silurian-a (1632, IX-179)
sinkron-a (1947, IX-180)
sintez-ar (1916, IX-180)
=
Siriaka (1604, VIII-244)
sism-o (1760, IX-179)
= Skorpiono (1511, IX-183)
skript-ar, -ero, -isto (1674, IX-179)
spadic-o (1646, IX-179)
spok-o (1806, IX-180)
stafisagr-o (1550, IX-179)
stativ-o (1702, IX-179)
stator-o (1777, IX-179)
stenotip-ar, -isto, -istino (1955, IX-1= 80)
stigmat-o (1507, IX-178)
stip-o (1946, IX-180)
stipit-o (1947, IX-180)
stipul-o (1570, IX-179)
<= div>streke-grab-ar, -ado, -uro, -isto (1950, IX-180)
stren-ar (1= 551, IX-179)
streptokok-o (1955, IX-180)
strop-o (158= 3, IX-179)
strum-o (1938, IX-180)
submision-ar (1468,= IX-178)
suci-ar (1462, IX-178)
sufraj-o (1949, IX-18= 0)
sufuzion-o (1571, IX-179)
sunros-o (1896, IX-180)<= /div>
tak-eto (1548, IX-181)
Tauro (1511, IX-183)
temp-ivora (1808, VIII-196)
Tigre-ana (1604, VIII-244)
<= div>triplik-o (1937, IX-181)
troglodit-o (1552, IX-181)
tuberkulin-o (1955, IX-181)
Turkoman-o, -i (1799, IX-181)
uf! (1943, IX-182)
urbari-o, -ala (1955, IX-182)
<= div>urso blanka (1647, IX-182)
usher-o (1580, IX-182)
valenc-o, -a (1678, IX-182)
Varsero (1511, IX-183)
v= endemi-ar (1804, IX-182)
Venus-haro (1752, IX-182)
Ve= nus-zono (1720, IX-182)
vetiver-o (1553, IX-182)
Virg= ino (1511, IX-183)
warp-o (1457, IX-183)
xeroform-o (= 1761, IX-183)
zodiakala stelari (1511, IX-183)
zoofit= -o (1584, IX-183)

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*Vorti stranjera:
=
aethalium (1964, VIII-50)
alpari (1978, VIII-50)
Ampelopsis (1980, IX-81)
Apteryx (1980, IX-81)
Bocon= ia (1980, IX-81)
Buddleia (1980, IX-81)
Diplodocus (1= 980, IX-81)
edelweiss (1641, VIII-98)
Elzevir (1905, = VIII-124)
fascia (1904, VIII-126)
iktus (1824, VIII-1= 96)
kalpak (1900, VIII-244)
Lied (1952, IX-79)
=
Quagga (1785, IX-176

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*Nova afixi:
equi- (1904, VIII-100)
-ivora, -ivoro (1808, VIII-196)
mikro- (1922, IX-81)
pseudo- (1629, IX-83)
=
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*Radiki chanjita o precizigita:
ank(e) (19= 69, VIII-50)
ankor(e) (1969, VIII-50)
apen(e) (1969, = VIII-50)
ante (1611, VIII-49)
auspic-o (1977, VIII-50= )
avan, -e (1611, VIII-49)
bandaj-o (1599, VIII-51)
bedel-o (1579, VIII-51)
bi-ciklo (1685, VIII-96)
=
brac-o (1543, VIII-51)
dop, -e (1611, VIII-49)
= dub-ar (1927, VIII-98)
etik-o, -oza, sen- -a (1965, VIII-124)
flur-o (1686, VIII-126)
foto-litografar (1675, VIII-126= )
foto-taktismo (1675, VIII-126)
foto-tropismo (1675,= VIII-126)
foto-sfero (1675, VIII-126)
grandanombra (= 1700, IX-80)
gruz-o (1690, VIII-128)
ignor-ar (1966, = VIII-196)
iktus-o (1824, VIII-196)
intelekt-ar (VIII-= 131)
irga (1699, VIII-131)
kand(e) (1969, VIII-50)
kaprikorn-o (1648, VIII-243)
konstat-ar (1574, VIII-199= )
mor-ala (1965, VIII-124)
multa (1700, IX-80)
=
museron-o (1710, IX-80)
nombroza (1700, IX-80)
p= atro (VIII-127)
pos (1611, VIII-49)
profesor-o (1665,= IX-83)
remark-ar (1573, IX-177)
retrakt-ar (1694, IX= -177)
skalio (1517, IX-178)
squamo (1517, IX-178)
tandem (1967, IX-181)
termostat-o (1948, IX-181)
<= div>tetras-o (1691, IX-181)
tifon-o (1955, IX-181)
ti= pograf-ar, -(art)o, -isto, -erio, -ala (1948, IX-181)
tisu-o (19= 37, IX-181)
told-o (1930, IX-181)
trakom-o (1702, IX-= 181)
trans-Atlantik-a (1683, IX-181)
travertin-o (195= 5, IX-181)
tri-ciklo (1685, VIII-96)
wato (1788, VIII= -127)
yen, -a, -e, - ke (1687, IX-183; 1688, IX-183; 1689, IX-18= 3)

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*Afixi chanjita o precizigita:
-ajo (1630, VIII-49)

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*Expresuri:
=
duople, duime granda kam (1634, VIII-97)
duro sequos, fino = sequos (1667, VIII-97)
edukar animali (1563, VIII-98)
es la triesma kloko (1670, VIII-243)
imprim-prob-ar, -uro (1672= , VIII-131)
La yari inter 40 e 50 (1469, IX-183)

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*Gramatiko:
baptonomi (1934, VIII-96)
Derivuri per -um (1556, IX-182)
eliziono di -as (VIII-127)
fizikal unaji (1788, VIII-127)
irga (1699, VIII-131)
mayuskuli, mayuskulo dil radiko (1713, IX-80)
Ne devar.= .., devar ne... (1456, IX-81)
Nomi di planti o bestii (1980, IX-= 81)
-o (1934, VIII-96)
Pluralo di vorti stranjera (15= 78, IX-83)
pluralo en kompozita vorti (1782, IX-83)
s= u, -a (1968, IX-180)

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*Vorti supresita:
gepatri
moralo (1965, VIII-124)

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Or Pesch misterioze mankas MULTA decidi dal Akademio. Yen exemplo = kronologial:

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dec. 1938: radiatoro, prezent= a che Pesch; raliar, prezenta che Pesch; reminicar, prezenta che Pesch; res= onar, prezenta che Pesch; sanio, prezenta che Pesch; strumo, prezenta che P= esch
dec. 1940: revuar, prezenta che Pesch; revuo, absenta che P= esch
dec. 1943: uf!, prezenta che Pesch
dec. 1946: st= ipo, prezenta che Pesch
dec. 1947: sileno, prezenta che Pesch
dec. 1948: termostato, prezenta che Pesch=E2=80=A6 kun asterisko!<= /div>
dec. 1949: sufrajo, absenta che Pesch
dec. 1951: rese= kar, prezenta che Pesch
dec. 1954: stenotipar, prezenta che Pesc= h
dec. 1959: genitori, prezenta che Pesch
dec. 1966: = ignorar, absenta che Pesch
dec. 1967: tandem, prezenta che Pesch=
dec. 1968: su, absenta che Pesch (ma repulsita dal Akademio pos= a)
dec. 1969: ank, ankor, apen, kand, absenta che Pesch
dec. 1970: aerografo, absenta che Pesch
dec. 1972: neofito, a= bsenta che Pesch
dec. 1973: anamnezar, absenta che Pesch
<= div>dec. 1974: rolero, prezenta che Pesch
dec. 1977: asterisko, = prezenta che Pesch
dec. 1978: =C2=ABalpari=C2=BB, prezenta che P= esch
dec. 1980: =C2=ABAmpelopsis=C2=BB, on trovas *ampelopso (se= n asterisko) che Pesch
dec. 1981: jolia, absenta che Pesch
=
dec. 1984: monsiniono, prezenta che Pesch

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Nu, quo eventis? Ka tanta vorti nultempe oficaleskis? To esus absurda= , nam plura vorti es ya bona e trovata en nia dicionarii (jolia, exemple). = Li anke trovesas la la Lexiki de Nova Vorti. Do ka Pesch =C2=ABobliviis=C2= =BB o =C2=ABperdis=C2=BB la vorti sur karteti (o, segun il, fiji)? To anke semblas esar povra hipotezo, nam= es tro multa =C2=ABperdita=C2=BB vorti. Me do konkluzas ke Pesch simple ne= konsideris la Akademio kom autoritatoza=E2=80=A6

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Ultre to, la Lexiko de Nova Vorti (Cock) es tre eroroza, exemple ol= indikas, ke =C2=ABenrejistrar=C2=BB adoptesis en 1931. Or es nula menciono= di ta oficaligo en la Raporto dil Akademio Interimal (trovebla en Progreso= ), ed ol mem mencionesas kom vorto propozita en la Raporto dil Akademio Pos= a! Simile =C2=ABajuna=C2=BB, =C2=ABekritar=C2=BB, =C2=ABelaborar=C2=BB, =C2= =ABparisilabika=C2=BB, =C2=ABrotoro=C2=BB, =C2=ABlineamento=C2=BB, =C2=ABko= ronero=C2=BB, edc. ne adoptesis dal Akademio Interimala, segun to quon me s= erchis.

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Fakte, me mem trovis ta remarko en= la Raporto da Roze pri la vorto =C2=ABenrejistrar=C2=BB:
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Thread-Index: AQHSp7ZlYkKXEbpLe0i6wAaTRRkMcg== Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:36:47 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: yahoogroups.com; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;yahoogroups.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=hotmail.com; x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:7AB7F5F5903341F5540900B0000534D600CEFDB020BE4FC3D4D593DA4774696E;UpperCasedChecksum:E8F02008EB0ADA5F4C00196F72EC14579B0FDD1D0E275D2C9485BF7DFF3708AA;SizeAsReceived:7894;Count:40 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [62xs4kWi1PwmfT04LAEMMW1WHS7oeNSO] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;DB5EUR03HT082;5:YGWzWRkVXNeIwHp4DmRwyfTOwto2FGEJxxGrWZeAfyoSjDAY0HP53+GXiu0xWy1YGDU3zYgYjwynSYx26/TcuBj2Kjj8kh1ghA0Cxo0jskqw9k4JW7Eazz4q7Lk5BJILUqtAfDhIxaWpwPQVftHpRA==;24:9KErFWMUDsexs47cPU07i1LqAzeQrJGF1Kozu1gq9PQs9mc0OmW+9HHzZns/sEDDdTt0UtECHKpxhqgW0h6LscT5LhPpoIdA1Rwpvxral5w=;7:h+y5qWW2Vy2jsa+XAuU/cuwS/Rivcn6vlEuqONWddNHx9M23c09bgJ3ce23txbmSZaS4PAqP0N6P2dyF32GjaDdNeH6WT10vatb68z9J1HsafCf5F5gvJhmMRAVimlQ3q26XQ8GukZKdsPfxyarMrRNw8j4hD5m69YxCwEloLK+YVtlG2n6Kfu/sIIr6WvZiojaf2ctL3uDddJGk01FkHjPtIGqxvjm8IewwrDNMIjvBO590hBDeGXxeODIIZyrRCCPh9GD8QNszQ/Y5dYfRJbb/8jkbGZOPYEgdNGan2UdKCQNxe/IMqJdNcrEaINRr x-incomingheadercount: 40 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: EFV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(98901004);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:DB5EUR03HT082;H:DB6PR10MB1672.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM;FPR:;SPF:None;LANG:; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 022e6d84-9448-4289-b672-08d475ceb7c8 x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(22001)(201702061074)(5061506573)(5061507331)(1603103135)(2017031320274)(2017031322274)(1603101448)(1601125374)(1701031045);SRVR:DB5EUR03HT082; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(432015281)(444000031);SRVR:DB5EUR03HT082;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DB5EUR03HT082; x-forefront-prvs: 0260457E99 spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DB6PR10MB1672AA743C3582E1636DED9AA4320DB6PR10MB1672EURP_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hotmail.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 28 Mar 2017 11:36:47.2479 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB5EUR03HT082 X-Original-Return-Path: idojc@hotmail.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2017 11:36:56.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AAA1FE0:01D2A7B7] Subject: Ka nova aspekto por nia Wikipedio? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=Xmkau7LswzkNHwwEnW-SMYyY6pIqZsUQw5N1egouG8c X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB1672AA743C3582E1636DED9AAA4320DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara amiki Me opinionas ke ni devas kelke ridesegnar la frontispico dil I= do-Wikipedio: - La "bonveno-texto" esas en literi tro granda ed okupas tr= o multa spaco, aparte che plu mikra skreno. Ni devas konservar la texto ma= mingrandigar ol, tale enfokigante la suba rubriki. - La rubriko "Kun o se= n nombri" esas bona ma segun me okupas nejusta loko. En ca spaco me dezira= s vidar "enfokigita artiklo", prefere kun imajo (e diferanta artiklo de tem= po a tempo, por diverseso). Komparez du frontispici quin me prizas, la wal= sana e la nederlandana: https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan https://nl.= wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina (stranje me nun povas lektar la duesma, me= ne la unesma!). Ni devas movar "Kun o sen nombri" adinfre, probable anke = sub la rubriko da DGW. Quon opinionas altri? Nun esus bona tempo por nov= a, fresha printempala aspekto, anke por festar nia balda 27000ma artiklo. = Kordiale JC --_000_DB6PR10MB1672AA743C3582E1636DED9AAA4320DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara amiki

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Me opinionas ke ni devas kelke ridesegnar la frontispico dil Ido-Wikipedio:


=

- La "bonveno-texto" esas en literi tro granda ed okupas tro m= ulta spaco, aparte che plu mikra skreno.  Ni devas konservar la texto = ma mingrandigar ol, tale enfokigante la suba rubriki.

- La rubriko &= quot;Kun o sen nombri" esas bona ma segun me okupas nejusta loko. &nbs= p;En ca spaco me deziras vidar "enfokigita artiklo", prefere kun = imajo (e diferanta artiklo de tempo a tempo, por diverseso).  Komparez= du frontispici quin me prizas, la walsana e la nederlandana:


=

https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki= /Hafan

htt= ps://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina


(stranje me = nun povas lektar la duesma, me ne la unesma!).  Ni devas movar "K= un o sen nombri" adinfre, probable anke sub la rubriko da DGW.

=

Quon opinionas altri?  Nun esus bona tempo por nova, fres= ha printempala aspekto, anke por festar nia balda 27000ma artiklo.

<= br>

Kordiale

JC




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korektigo= :

me ne la unesmma!   ->   mA ne la une= sma!


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Sent: 28 March 2017 12:36
To:= Idolisto
Subject: [idolisto] Ka nova aspekto por nia Wikipe= dio?
 


Kara amiki


Me op= inionas ke ni devas kelke ridesegnar la= frontispico dil Ido-Wikipedio:

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La wikiala sistemo funcionas anke pos tala chanjo. Ma la Metawiki, qua igas omno funcionar, uzas nun la vortoformi ”Wikipedio”, ”Wikivortaro”, ”Frontispico” ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Frontispico ). Se la rinomizo eventus tote korekte, la nomi mustus chanjar anke en Metawiki. Amikale, Arto ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto] kirjoitti 28.3.2017 19:48: > Yen plusa sugesto: > > Me posedas la Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, dicionario > qua tre utile gradizas la frequeso (skribala e parolala) di singla > vorto Angla hoepoke. Or «frontispiece» (frontispico) ne mem esas un > de la 9000 maxim ofta vorti. Pro quo on uzus ta rara vorto por nomizar > pagino tante grava e tante uzata da mem tre nova e fresha lernanti? Me > sugestas, ke «chef-pagino» esus plu apta. > > Wikipedio semblas konsiderir ta ideo, ma nur en la sinistra menuo, ne > en la nomo ipsa di la pagino. 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Tiberio Madonna, sekretario di= Linguala Komitato (LK) til la 26ma di mayo 2013, propozis en 2011 a la 9 m= embri di LK=C2=A0 la vorto "bebeo" segun l'exakta propozo di la privata ver= ko SIL (edituro 2008) da Goncalo Neves . *bebe/o. Tre yuna infanto [A ba= by | F b=C3=A9b=C3=A9 | G Baby | H ni=C3=B1o, beb=C3=A9 | I bambino, beb=C3= =A8 | R =D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B1=D1=91=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=BA | E bebo]. =01 ROZE (p. = 75), STUIFBERGEN (La spegulo granda, p. 13, 17), STEVENSON (Progreso 332, p= . 27), NEVES (Mia kuzo Ido, p. 22). - Voluntez sendar via opinioni e voti. = Semblas ke ol aprobesis da nur 8 membri qui votis, ma Tiberio Madonna ne = raportis a la lora sekretario di Direktanta Komito, Dr. Thomas Schmidt, la = detaloza rezulto di la LK-aprobo. Pose la=C2=A0 Direktanta Komito adoptis (= 8 YES-voti;=C2=A0 0 NO-voto)=C2=A0 la vorto "bebeo" ek la 8 nova vorti priz= entita da la LK. Do fine la vorto "bebeo" aprobesis da 16 membri di ULI qui= havis la yuro votar. Tiberio Madonna e Goncalo Neves qua propozis ca nov= a vorto, konsideris sendubite la fakto ke ca vorto esis uzata en diversa ve= rki malgre olua ne-oficaleso dal Akademio en 1952 e ke mankis specala vorto= por nomizar=C2=A0 la tre yuna infanto. Ka decido dil Akademii povas riko= nsideresar? Me kredas lo se existas bona argumenti por facar lo !.La linguo= =C2=A0 Ido esas produktajo di sociala cienco ma ne di exakta cienco. La hom= ala judiko povas evolucionar segun l'epoko. Exemple vice "bebeo"=C2=A0 hodi= e me preferus "bebio" qua anke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952 ! > Kad= oportas reformar omno? Certe NO ! Kordiale Loic Landais =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 > Message du 27/03/17 16:16 > De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6bl= kwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]" > A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com > Copie =C3=A0= : > Objet : [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, =C2=ABbebeo=C2=BB ed oranji > > = > > Aparta komento: Pro quo la Linguala Komitato adoptis bebeo en 2012, du= m ke ca=C2=A0ja repulsesis en 1952 (Progreso XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 27= ) per sep (7) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre du (2) =C2=AByes=C2=BB? Ka la nuna ULI = konsideras, ke la lora ULI esis nekompetenta? Kad on devas rivotar omnavort= i adoptita e repulsita en ta periodo? Quanta homi votis lor la adopto en 20= 12? > Se la lora sep =C2=ABno=C2=BB valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas riko= nsiderar *baro apud drinkeyo=C2=A0vice la lore konsilita stranjera vorto ba= r? Nam *baro repulsesis per nur sis (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Su= plemento 27) kontre ne min kam quar (4) =C2=AByes=C2=BB! Hodie, uli ya semb= las odiar stranjera vorti en nia komuneso=E2=80=A6 > Se la lora sep =C2=AB= no=C2=BB valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *biskuito vice bisq= uito, qua repulsesis per sis (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre quar (4) =C2=AByes= =C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29)? To es mina =C2=ABno=C2=BB e plua = =C2=AByes=C2=BB kam por bebeo! Hodie, pluri (inkluzite me) semblas preferar= ta formo=E2=80=A6 > To igas me parolar pri konvenanta deskovro, quan me j= us facis: on repulsis *bigarado=C2=A0(Citrus aurantium) per sep (7) =C2=ABn= o=C2=BB kontre tri (3) =C2=AByes=C2=BB (plua =C2=AByes=C2=BB kam bebeo, ho = ve!). On vice deklaris: =C2=ABKomune on darfas: bitra, akr oranjo.=C2=BB (X= XVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29). Ka to anke bezonas nova voto? > Kad oporta= s reformar omno? > Skeptike, Gilles-Philippe > > =C2=A0 ------=_Part_1675_392411003.14907691242336 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Quanta homi votis lor la adopto e= n 2012?


Tiberio Madon= na, sekretario di Linguala Komitato (LK) til la 26ma di mayo 2013, propozis= en 2011 a la 9 membri di LK=C2=A0 la vorto "bebeo" segun l'exakta propozo = di la privata verko SIL (edituro 2008) da Goncalo Neves .


*bebe/o. Tre yuna infanto [A baby | F b=C3=A9b=C3=A9 | G Baby | H ni=C3= =B1o, beb=C3=A9 | I bambino,
= beb=C3=A8 | R ребён&#= 1086;к | E bebo]. =01 ROZE (p.
75), STUIFBERGEN (La spegulo granda, p. 13, 17), STEVENSON (Pro= greso 332, p.
27), NEVES (Mia= kuzo Ido, p. 22). - Voluntez sendar via opinioni e voti.


Semblas ke ol aprobesis da nur 8 membri qui votis, ma Tiberio Madonna ne= raportis a la lora sekretario di Direktanta Komito, Dr. Thomas Schmidt, la= detaloza rezulto di la LK-aprobo. Pose la=C2=A0 Direktanta Komito adoptis = (8 YES-voti;=C2=A0 0 NO-voto)=C2=A0 la vorto "bebeo" ek la 8 nova vorti pri= zentita da la LK.
Do fine la = vorto "bebeo" aprobesis da 16 membri di ULI qui havis la yuro votar.=


Tiberio Madonna e Goncalo Neves qua propozis ca nova vorto, k= onsideris sendubite la fakto ke ca vorto esis uzata en diversa verki malgre= olua ne-oficaleso dal Akademio en 1952 e ke mankis specala vorto por nomiz= ar=C2=A0 la tre yuna infanto.


Ka decido dil Akademii po= vas rikonsideresar? Me kredas lo se existas bona argumenti por facar lo !.L= a linguo=C2=A0 Ido esas produktajo di sociala cienco ma ne di exakta cienco= . La homala judiko povas evolucionar segun l'epoko. Exemple vice "bebeo"=C2= =A0 hodie me preferus "bebio" qua anke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952 !=


> Kad oportas reformar omno?


Certe NO !


Kordiale
Loic Landais

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=C2=A0

&= gt; Message du 27/03/17 16:16
> De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdk= ud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]"
>= ; A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
> Copie =C3=A0 :
> Objet : = [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, =C2=ABbebeo=C2=BB ed oranji
>
>= Aparta komento: Pro quo la Linguala Komitato adoptis bebeo en 2012, dum ke ca=C2=A0ja repulsesis en 1952 (Progreso XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 27) per sep (7) =C2=ABno=C2= =BB kontre du (2) =C2=AByes=C2=BB? Ka la nuna ULI konsideras, ke la lora UL= I esis nekompetenta? Kad on devas rivotar omnavorti adoptita e repulsita en ta periodo? Quanta= homi votis lor la adopto en 2012?

>
Se la lora se= p =C2=ABno=C2=BB valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *baro apud bar? Nam *baro repulsesis per nur= sis (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 27) kontre ne min kam = quar (4) =C2=AByes=C2=BB! Hodie, uli ya semblas odiar stranjera vorti en ni= a komuneso=E2=80=A6

>
Se la lora sep =C2=ABn= o=C2=BB valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *biskuito vice bis= quito, qua repulsesis per sis (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre quar (4) =C2= =AByes=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29)? To es mina =C2=ABno=C2=BB e = plua =C2=AByes=C2=BB kam por bebeo! Hodie, pluri (inkluzite me) semblas preferar ta formo=E2=80=A6

>
To igas me parolar pri konvenanta deskovro, quan me= jus facis: on repulsis *bigarado= =C2=A0(Citrus aurantium) per sep= (7) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre tri (3) =C2=AByes=C2=BB (plua =C2=AByes=C2=BB ka= m bebeo, ho ve!). On vice deklari= s: =C2=ABKomune on darfas: bitra, akr oranjo.=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suple= mento 29). Ka to anke bezonas nova voto?

>
K= ad oportas reformar omno?

>
Skeptike,
=
Gilles-Philippe
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=Y_7aZie0nRvQ_RSX2tKvZBWMY2i7KJ5hnNBm_RuAb1A X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB1672077C6E82D73D784D9ACDDA4350DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Arto Me remarkas ke vu respondis la ideo da Gilles-Philippe, ma ne me= a sugesti. To kredigas me ke me ne recevos respondo. Me komprenas ke vu n= untempe preferas laborar che Wikivortaro kam che Wikipedio. Qua do respons= as pri nia Wikipedio? Che la pagino-informo por la frontispico, asertesas = ke nur administranti darfas redaktar (do modifikar) la frontispico. Per la= helpo-pagino on lernas ke esar quar administranti: vu, Fafnir, Joao Xavier= e Mithridates: https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specala:UzantoListo/sysop K= a ca administranti prisorgas la desegno di Wikipedio? Semblas ke la idala = versiono esas ecepto, nam omna altra versiono quan me kontrolis, havas rubr= iko "enfokigata artiklo", generale sinistre en la loko ube ni havas "kun o = sen nombri". Me ne dezirus ke omna versiono esus identa, ma semblas a me k= e ni perdas ulo pro ne havar ica rubriko. Kordiale JC ___________________= _____________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on = behalf of arto.moisio2@saunalahti.fi [idolisto] = Sent: 28 March 2017 19:56 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolis= to] Re: Ka nova aspekto por nia Wikipedio? Kar amiki Ni povas ya lokale r= inomizar la nomo =94frontispico=94 per =94chef-pagino=94 uzante ridirektili= . La wikiala sistemo funcionas anke pos tala chanjo. --_000_DB6PR10MB1672077C6E82D73D784D9ACDDA4350DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Arto

Me remarkas ke vu respondis la ideo da Gilles-Philippe, ma ne mea sugesti= .  To kredigas me ke me ne recevos respondo.  Me komprenas ke vu = nuntempe preferas laborar che Wikivortaro kam che Wikipedio.  Qua do r= esponsas pri nia Wikipedio?

Che la pagino-informo por= la frontispico, asertesas ke nur administranti darfas redaktar (do modifik= ar) la frontispico.  Per la helpo-pagino on lernas ke esar quar admini= stranti: vu, Fafnir, Joao Xavier e Mithridates:

https://io.wiki= pedia.org/wiki/Specala:UzantoListo/sysop

Ka= ca administranti prisorgas la desegno di Wikipedio?

=
Semblas ke la idala versiono esas ecepto, nam omna altra versiono qua= n me kontrolis, havas rubriko "enfokigata artiklo", generale sini= stre en la loko ube ni havas "kun o sen nombri".  Me ne dezi= rus ke omna versiono esus identa, ma semblas a me ke ni perdas ulo pro ne = havar ica rubriko.

Kordiale
JC
<= br>
= From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com o= n behalf of arto.moisio2@saunalahti.fi [idolisto]
Sent: 28 March 2017 19:56
To: idolisto@yahoog= roups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Re: Ka nova aspekto por nia Wi= kipedio?
 
Kar amiki

Ni povas= ya lokale rinomizar la nomo =94frontispico=94 per =94chef-pagino=94
u= zante ridirektili. La wikiala sistemo funcionas anke pos tala chanjo.
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u=347562246 From: "Robert C." Kara Gilles-Philippe, Esas bona ke vu obtenis, e facas facile obtenebla, la Dictionnaire Français-Ido. Se ulu povas facar listo di Idala libri tale havebla, e lia loki (adresi), esus tre utila. La Lexiko di Nova Vorti, kompilita da Camiel de Cock ya esas eroroza. Mem lua nono esas skribita erore sur la kovrilo (Camiel De cock vice Camiel de Cock). La verbo "odorar" esas uzata netransitive tante generale ke lexiko-kompilanti probable supozis ke ol esas nur netransitiva. Tamen vua deskovro esas nur un exemplo di sat multa verbi qui esas transitiva segun un lexiko ma ne segun altra, regretinde. La chanjo dil radiko "cizel" de verbala a substantivala eventis probable en la yari 1950-1990. Se ulu havas tempo ed energio, e povas regardar la numeri di "Progreso" dum recenta yardeki, esus tre utila trovar decidi linguala (precipue pri nova vorti) qui jacas ibe. Kordiale, Robert C. ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto] - 29 Mar 2017 18:14:03 +0000: Danke la biblioteko Bibliothèque municipale de Lyon, la skanuro di la libro Dictionnaire Français-Ido da Louis Couturat et Louis de Beaufront (1915) esas nun disponebla en mea ret-situo: https://bovino-lakto.rhcloud.com/biblioteko/ Yen la situeso di la originala dokumento: http://numelyo.bm-lyon.fr/f_view/BML:BML_00GOO0100137001104871491 Yen kelka interesiva detali pri ta dicionario: La verbo odorar esas transitiva: videz caque e sentir; On trovas cizelo e cizel-agar vice cizel-ilo e cizelar (forsan la maxim frua exemplo di ta aparante sekreta chanjo, nam me trovis nula menciono pri to en Progreso I-VII: videz ciseler e ciseau; La verbo copartager, qua tradukesas parto-prenar (ex. on partoprenas heridajo kun sua familio). On trovas alpako, aloo e altisto sen asterisko, dum ke la Lexiko di Nova Vorti (Camiel de Cock) dicas, ke li «adoptesis» en... 1964?! (Same pri alpako e aloo en la English-Ido Dictionary da Dyer.) videz alpaca, aloès e altiste. La Idala deskonkordo es granda e misterioza... 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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=23339976; y=9dFuDfmizuTnJZdsnLV8Bq9SANASQFjZbKTbOgEjcQEtproku2CZ X-Yahoo-Profile: e_scholz2002 From: Eberhard Scholz Me opinionas, ke difero esas inter frontispico e chefpagino. Cetere, me prizus ke linguala diskuti esez en la linguolisto. Amikale, Eberhard Am 28.03.2017 um 20:56 schrieb arto.moisio2@saunalahti.fi [idolisto]: > Kar amiki > > Ni povas ya lokale rinomizar la nomo ”frontispico” per ”chef-pagino” > uzante ridirektili. La wikiala sistemo funcionas anke pos tala chanjo. > > Ma la Metawiki, qua igas omno funcionar, uzas nun la vortoformi > ”Wikipedio”, ”Wikivortaro”, ”Frontispico” ( > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Frontispico ). Se la rinomizo eventus > tote korekte, la nomi mustus chanjar anke en Metawiki. > > Amikale, Arto > > > > ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto] kirjoitti > 28.3.2017 19:48: >> Yen plusa sugesto: >> >> Me posedas la Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, dicionario >> qua tre utile gradizas la frequeso (skribala e parolala) di singla >> vorto Angla hoepoke. Or «frontispiece» (frontispico) ne mem esas un >> de la 9000 maxim ofta vorti. Pro quo on uzus ta rara vorto por nomizar >> pagino tante grava e tante uzata da mem tre nova e fresha lernanti? Me >> sugestas, ke «chef-pagino» esus plu apta. >> >> Wikipedio semblas konsiderir ta ideo, ma nur en la sinistra menuo, ne >> en la nomo ipsa di la pagino. 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Sat, 01 Apr 2017 07:26:02 +0000; 1491031562.312 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 07:25:01 +0000 (UTC) To: Idolisto Message-ID: <1568260875.12738043.1491031501338@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12738042_243213454.1491031501337" References: <1568260875.12738043.1491031501338.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Length: 4784 Reply-To: David Weston Subject: Aprilo: tri historiala eventi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=485859959; y=FQBU0lJZoKNg8DTU48SPPXSatBxd_4V1fTVl_XVKrtb0gF1XdosDqCxNbKJj X-Yahoo-Profile: davidweston.staffs From: David Weston ------=_Part_12738042_243213454.14910315501337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aprilo en historio: 50, 100 e 150 yari ante nun... 17 di aprilo 1967. Surveyor 3, kosmosondilo di Usa, esis lansata. Ol esis la triesma de la Surveyor-projeto, por demonstrar la praktikebleso di dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno. Surveyor 1 atingis la surfaco e fotografis la tereno; Surveyor 2 faliis, kolizionante kun la luno. Ye 20 di aprilo Surveyor 3 atingis la surfaco. Ol havis instrumento por exkavar specimeno di sulo de la surfaco, qua esis fotografita; to sucesoze funcionis. Surveyor 3 esis vizitata dum la misiono di Apollo 12 en novembro 1969, e parti de la sondilo esis prenata e retro-portata a Tero por exameneso. 16 di aprilo 1917. Vladimir Lenin arivis per treno ye Petrograd en Rusia, ube il esis tumultoze recevata. Pos la Rusa revoluciono di februaro, il deziris retrovoyajar a Rusia de ilua exileyo en Suisia. La voyajo esis desfacila pro la duranta milito; il pasis tra Germania en specala treno aranjita kun la Germana guvernerio, e pose tra Skandinavia. 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Aprilo en historio: 50, 100 e 150 yari ante nun...

17 di aprilo 1967. Surveyor 3, kosmosondilo di = Usa, esis lansata. Ol esis la triesma de la Surveyor-projeto, por demonstra= r la praktikebleso di dolce atingar la surfaco di la luno. Surveyor 1 ating= is la surfaco e fotografis la tereno; Surveyor 2 faliis, kolizionante kun l= a luno. Ye 20 di aprilo Surveyor 3 atingis la surfaco. Ol havis instrumento= por exkavar specimeno di sulo de la surfaco, qua esis fotografita; to suce= soze funcionis. Surveyor 3 esis vizitata dum la misiono di Apollo 12 en nov= embro 1969, e parti de la sondilo esis prenata e retro-portata a Tero por e= xameneso.

16 di aprilo 1917. Vladimir Lenin arivis per treno ye Petrograd en Rusia= , ube il esis tumultoze recevata. Pos la Rusa revoluciono di februaro, il d= eziris retrovoyajar a Rusia de ilua exileyo en Suisia. La voyajo esis desfa= cila pro la duranta milito; il pasis tra Germania en specala treno aranjita= kun la Germana guvernerio, e pose tra Skandinavia. Balde pos ilua arivo il= publikigis la Tezi di Aprilo, qui esis direktivaji lektenda da kamaradi.

16 di aprilo 1867. En Millville, Indiana Usa, Wilbur Wright naskis.= Dum la 1890-yardeko il ed ilua fratulo Orville komencis experimentar pri a= viacado, influite da la experimenti di Otto Lilienthal. Pos la suceso de 19= 03 til 1905 di lia probala flugi, Wilbur multe voyajis por traktar komercal= a e legala aferi, esforcante preservar la patento por lia aeroplano kontre = rivali. Esas supozata ke ta exhaustiva laboro relatis ilua morto en 1912 pr= o tifoido.

Kordiale DGW
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Me= kredas lo se existas bona argumenti por facar lo !.La linguo Ido esas pro= duktajo di sociala cienco ma ne di exakta cienco. La homala judiko povas ev= olucionar segun l'epoko. Exemple vice "bebeo" hodie me preferus "bebio" qu= a anke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952!< Danko Lo=C3=AFc, tu min o plu= expresis anke mea opiniono. Tamen, me questionas me kad on povas desofical= igar vorti olime oficaligita? Exemple, me propozas desoficaligar la vorto "= kruo". Saluti amikala, Hans Stuifbergen -- Wikipedio en Ido: https://io.w= ikipedia.org/wiki/Frontispico ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : idolisto@yaho= ogroups.com Datum : 29/03/2017 08:32 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwe= rp : re: [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, =C2=ABbebeo=C2=BB ed oranji = > Quanta homi votis lor la adopto en 2012? Tiberio Madonna, sekreta= rio di Linguala Komitato (LK) til la 26ma di mayo 2013, propozis en 2011 a = la 9 membri di LK la vorto "bebeo" segun l'exakta propozo di la privata ve= rko SIL (edituro 2008) da Goncalo Neves . *bebe/o. Tre yuna infanto [A= baby | F b=C3=A9b=C3=A9 | G Baby | H ni=C3=B1o, beb=C3=A9 | I bambino, beb= =C3=A8 | R ребёнок | E bebo]. =01= ROZE (p. 75), STUIFBERGEN (La spegulo granda, p. 13, 17), STEVENSON (Progr= eso 332, p. 27), NEVES (Mia kuzo Ido, p. 22). - Voluntez sendar via opinion= i e voti. Semblas ke ol aprobesis da nur 8 membri qui votis, ma Tiberio= Madonna ne raportis a la lora sekretario di Direktanta Komito, Dr. Thomas = Schmidt, la detaloza rezulto di la LK-aprobo. Pose la Direktanta Komito ad= optis (8 YES-voti; 0 NO-voto) la vorto "bebeo" ek la 8 nova vorti prizent= ita da la LK. Do fine la vorto "bebeo" aprobesis da 16 membri di ULI qui ha= vis la yuro votar. Tiberio Madonna e Goncalo Neves qua propozis ca nova= vorto, konsideris sendubite la fakto ke ca vorto esis uzata en diversa ver= ki malgre olua ne-oficaleso dal Akademio en 1952 e ke mankis specala vorto = por nomizar la tre yuna infanto. Ka decido dil Akademii povas rikonsid= eresar? Me kredas lo se existas bona argumenti por facar lo !.La linguo Id= o esas produktajo di sociala cienco ma ne di exakta cienco. La homala judik= o povas evolucionar segun l'epoko. Exemple vice "bebeo" hodie me preferus = "bebio" qua anke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952 ! > Kad oportas ref= ormar omno? Certe NO ! Kordiale Loic Landais >= Message du 27/03/17 16:16 > De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg53hvre4uobzdkud6blk= wtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]" > A : idolisto@= yahoogroups.com > Copie =C3=A0 : > Objet : [idolisto] Re: Pri la= ULI, =C2=ABbebeo=C2=BB ed oranji > > Aparta komento: Pro quo la= Linguala Komitato adoptis bebeo en 2012, dum ke ca ja repulsesis= en 1952 ( Progreso XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 27) per sep (7) =C2=ABn= o=C2=BB kontre du (2) =C2=AByes=C2=BB? Ka la nuna ULI konsideras, ke la lor= a ULI esis nekompetenta? Kad on devas rivotar omnavorti adoptita = e repulsita en ta periodo? Quanta homi votis lor la adopto en 2012? = > Se la lora sep =C2=ABno=C2=BB valoras nulo nun, kad o= n do devas rikonsiderar *baro apud drinkeyo vice la lore konsil= ita stranjera vorto bar? Nam *baro repulsesis per nur sis= (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 27) kontre ne min kam quar= (4) =C2=AByes=C2=BB! Hodie, uli ya semblas odiar stranjera vorti en nia ko= muneso=E2=80=A6 > Se la lora sep =C2=ABno=C2= =BB valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *biskuito vice = bisquito, qua repulsesis per sis (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre quar (4) =C2= =AByes=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29)? To es mina =C2=ABno=C2=BB e = plua =C2=AByes=C2=BB kam por bebeo! Hodie, pluri (inkluzite me) sembl= as preferar ta formo=E2=80=A6 > To igas me p= arolar pri konvenanta deskovro, quan me jus facis: on repulsis *bigar= ado ( Citrus aurantium) per sep (7) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre tri (3) =C2= =AByes=C2=BB (plua =C2=AByes=C2=BB kam bebeo, ho ve!). On vice deklar= is: =C2=ABKomune on darfas: bitra, akr oranjo.=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Supl= emento 29). 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Lo=C3=AFc Landais skribis:
 
>Ka decido dil Akademii povas rikonsideresar? Me = kredas lo se existas bona argumenti por facar lo !.La linguo  Ido esas= produktajo di sociala cienco ma ne di exakta cienco. La homala judiko pova= s evolucionar segun l'epoko. Exemple vice "bebeo"  hodie me preferus "= bebio" qua anke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952!<
 
Danko Lo=C3=AFc, ttu min o plu expresis anke mea opini= ono.
 
Tamen, me questionas me kad on povas desofi= caligar vorti olime oficaligita? Exemple, me propozas desoficaligar la vort= o "kruo".
 
Saluti amikala,
 
=
Hans Stuifbergen

 
--

----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idolisto@= yahoogroups.com
Datum : 29/03/2017 08:32
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.c= om
Onderwerp : re: [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, =C2=ABbebeo=C2=BB ed oranj= i

 

> Quanta homi votis lor la adopto en 2012?


Tiberio Madonna, sekretario di Linguala Komit= ato (LK) til la 26ma di mayo 2013, propozis en 2011 a la 9 membri di LK&nbs= p; la vorto "bebeo" segun l'exakta propozo di la privata verko SIL (edituro= 2008) da Goncalo Neves .


*bebe/o. Tre yuna infanto [= A baby | F b=C3=A9b=C3=A9 | G Baby | H ni=C3=B1o, beb=C3=A9 | I bambino,
beb=C3=A8 | R р = 77;бёнок | E bebo]. =01 R= OZE (p.
75), STUIFBERGEN (La sp= egulo granda, p. 13, 17), STEVENSON (Progreso 332, p.
27), NEVES (Mia kuzo Ido, p. 22). - Voluntez sendar = via opinioni e voti.


Semblas ke ol aprobesis da nur 8 = membri qui votis, ma Tiberio Madonna ne raportis a la lora sekretario di Di= rektanta Komito, Dr. Thomas Schmidt, la detaloza rezulto di la LK-aprobo. P= ose la  Direktanta Komito adoptis (8 YES-voti;  0 NO-voto)  = la vorto "bebeo" ek la 8 nova vorti prizentita da la LK.
Do fine la vorto "bebeo" aprobesis da 16 membri d= i ULI qui havis la yuro votar.


Tiberio Madonna e Gonca= lo Neves qua propozis ca nova vorto, konsideris sendubite la fakto ke ca vo= rto esis uzata en diversa verki malgre olua ne-oficaleso dal Akademio en 19= 52 e ke mankis specala vorto por nomizar  la tre yuna infanto.<= /p>


Ka decido dil Akademii povas rikonsideresar? Me kredas lo se = existas bona argumenti por facar lo !.La linguo  Ido esas produktajo d= i sociala cienco ma ne di exakta cienco. La homala judiko povas evolucionar= segun l'epoko. Exemple vice "bebeo"  hodie me preferus "bebio" qua an= ke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952 !


> Kad oport= as reformar omno?


C= erte NO !


Kordiale
Loic Landais

&n= bsp;

 

> Message du 27/03/17 16:16
> De : "ahzldxib2r5davfg= 53hvre4uobzdkud6blkwtilb@yahoo.com [idolisto]"
> A : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
> Copie =C3=A0 : =
> Objet : [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, =C2=ABbebeo=C2=BB ed oranj= i
>
> Aparta komento: Pro quo la Linguala Komitato a= doptis bebeo en 2012, dum ke= ca  ja repulsesis en 1= 952 ( Progreso XXVIII, Lingu= ala Suplemento 27) per sep (7) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre du (2) =C2=AByes=C2=BB= ? Ka la nuna ULI konsideras, ke la lora ULI esis nekompetenta? Kad on devas rivotar omnavorti adoptita e repulsita en ta periodo? Quanta homi votis lor la adop= to en 2012?

>
Se la lora s= ep =C2=ABno=C2=BB valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *baro apud drinkeyo vice la lore konsilita stranjera vorto = bar? Nam *baro repulsesis per nur sis (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Supl= emento 27) kontre ne min kam quar (4) =C2=AByes=C2=BB! Hodie, uli ya sembla= s odiar stranjera vorti en nia komuneso=E2=80=A6
=
>
Se la lora sep =C2=ABno=C2=BB valoras nu= lo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *biskuito vice bisquito<= /span>, qua repulsesis per sis (6) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre quar (4) =C2=AByes= =C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29)? To es mina =C2=ABno=C2=BB e plua = =C2=AByes=C2=BB kam por bebeo! Hodie, pluri (inkluzite me) semblas preferar ta formo=E2=80=A6

>
To igas me parolar pri= konvenanta deskovro, quan me jus facis: on repulsis *bigarado ( Citrus aurantium) per sep (7) =C2=ABno=C2=BB kontre tri (3)= =C2=AByes=C2=BB (plua =C2=AByes=C2=BB kam bebeo, ho ve!). On vice deklaris: =C2=ABKomune on darfas: b= itra, akr oranjo.=C2=BB (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29). Ka to anke bezona= s nova voto?

>
K= ad oportas reformar omno?

>
=
Skeptike,
Gilles-Philippe
=
 
=

Kara Hans e Loic


Desoficaligar "kruo", remplasigar "bebeo&q= uot; per "bebio", esas nur plusa neutila idei - quale Hans ipsa k= onkordis nur kelka semani ante nun.


Me pripensis divers= a posibla solvi por nia problemi, nome ke esas nula linguala sekretario, du= m recenta semani.  Probable la sola espero por Ido, esas ke ni ne plus= insistez pri la asteriski che nova vorti.  Vorti ja oficala, restez o= ficala.  On darfez skribar komputoro, o komputero, o dijitala, ec., s= en asterisko, e videz kad altri imitos.  Se future, ni havos aktiva LS= , lu povos uzar ta uzado praktikala por decidar qua vorti esas oficaligenda= .


Kordiale

JC

From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com= on behalf of 'jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.n= l' jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl [idolisto] =
Sent: 04 April 2017 23:06
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.c= om
Subject: Re: re: [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, =ABbebeo=BB ed or= anji
 


Lo=EFc Landa= is skribis:
 
&g= t;Ka decido dil Akademii povas rikonsideresar? Me kredas lo se existas bona= argumenti por facar lo !.La linguo  Ido esas produktajo di sociala ci= enco ma ne di exakta cienco. La homala judiko povas evolucionar segun l'epo= ko. Exemple vice "bebeo"  hodie me preferus "bebio&quo= t; qua anke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952!<
 
Danko Lo=EFc, tu min o plu expresis anke mea opiniono.
 
Tamen, me questionas me kad on povas desoficaligar= vorti olime oficaligita? Exemple, me propozas desoficaligar la vorto "= ;kruo".

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Kara amiki,
 
segun Kurt Feder "granda vortolibro Germane-Ido" la vorto por "bebeo", "bebio"... esus "alaktato" (germane: Säugling).
Ma nula yuna germano uzas la vorto "Säugling". Me propozas "bebio"por "Baby".
 
Kordiale
 
Marion Kasper 
 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. März 2017 um 08:32 Uhr
Von: "LOIC.LANDAIS@wanadoo.fr [idolisto]"
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Betreff: re: [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, «bebeo» ed oranji
 

 

> Quanta homi votis lor la adopto en 2012?


Tiberio Madonna, sekretario di Linguala Komitato (LK) til la 26ma di mayo 2013, propozis en 2011 a la 9 membri di LK  la vorto "bebeo" segun l'exakta propozo di la privata verko SIL (edituro 2008) da Goncalo Neves .


*bebe/o. Tre yuna infanto [A baby | F bébé | G Baby | H niño, bebé | I bambino,
bebè | R ребёнок | E bebo]. � ROZE (p.
75), STUIFBERGEN (La spegulo granda, p. 13, 17), STEVENSON (Progreso 332, p.
27), NEVES (Mia kuzo Ido, p. 22). - Voluntez sendar via opinioni e voti.


Semblas ke ol aprobesis da nur 8 membri qui votis, ma Tiberio Madonna ne raportis a la lora sekretario di Direktanta Komito, Dr. Thomas Schmidt, la detaloza rezulto di la LK-aprobo. Pose la  Direktanta Komito adoptis (8 YES-voti;  0 NO-voto)  la vorto "bebeo" ek la 8 nova vorti prizentita da la LK.
Do fine la vorto "bebeo" aprobesis da 16 membri di ULI qui havis la yuro votar.


Tiberio Madonna e Goncalo Neves qua propozis ca nova vorto, konsideris sendubite la fakto ke ca vorto esis uzata en diversa verki malgre olua ne-oficaleso dal Akademio en 1952 e ke mankis specala vorto por nomizar  la tre yuna infanto.


Ka decido dil Akademii povas rikonsideresar? Me kredas lo se existas bona argumenti por facar lo !.La linguo  Ido esas produktajo di sociala cienco ma ne di exakta cienco. La homala judiko povas evolucionar segun l'epoko. Exemple vice "bebeo"  hodie me preferus "bebio" qua anke ne-oficalesis dal Akademio en 1952 !


> Kad oportas reformar omno?


Certe NO !


Kordiale
Loic Landais

 

 

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> Objet : [idolisto] Re: Pri la ULI, «bebeo» ed oranji
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> Aparta komento: Pro quo la Linguala Komitato adoptis bebeo en 2012, dum ke ca ja repulsesis en 1952 (Progreso XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 27) per sep (7) «no» kontre du (2) «yes»? Ka la nuna ULI konsideras, ke la lora ULI esis nekompetenta? Kad on devas rivotar omnavorti adoptita e repulsita en ta periodo? Quanta homi votis lor la adopto en 2012?

>
Se la lora sep «no» valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *baro apud drinkeyo vice la lore konsilita stranjera vorto bar? Nam *baro repulsesis per nur sis (6) «no» (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 27) kontre ne min kam quar (4) «yes»! Hodie, uli ya semblas odiar stranjera vorti en nia komuneso…

>
Se la lora sep «no» valoras nulo nun, kad on do devas rikonsiderar *biskuito vice bisquito, qua repulsesis per sis (6) «no» kontre quar (4) «yes» (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29)? To es mina «no» e plua «yes» kam por bebeo! Hodie, pluri (inkluzite me) semblas preferar ta formo…

>
To igas me parolar pri konvenanta deskovro, quan me jus facis: on repulsis *bigarado (Citrus aurantium) per sep (7) «no» kontre tri (3) «yes» (plua «yes» kam bebeo, ho ve!). On vice deklaris: «Komune on darfas: bitra, akr oranjo.» (XXVIII, Linguala Suplemento 29). Ka to anke bezonas nova voto?

>
Kad oportas reformar omno?

>
Skeptike,
Gilles-Philippe
 

 

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Antonio. http://haikuido.blogspot.com.es/2= 017/04/itera-renkontro-kun-jose.html?m=3D1 ------=_Part_258738_700534745.14919848199536 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kar amiki,

yen mikra raporto pri mea morga itera renkontro kun nia amiko Jose Garcia. 

Amikala saluti!

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E me ja respondis e sendis ad el la ret-adresi di Hans Stuifbergen e Jean Martignon. Quik me itere sendos amba ad el. Saluti amikala Eberhard Von: arto.moisio2@saunalahti.fi [idolisto] > > Kara Idistaro > > Me esis kontaktita da siorino Stephanie Silvan, qua serchis por lua > projeto homi qui savas sat bone Ido. Lo esas forsan la unesma foyo > kande pagesas pekunio pro la savo di Ido. La sola kondiciono esas > relative bona savo pri la Angliana linguo. > > Me ipsa ne havas tempo por ol ma forsan ulu nun divenas interesata da > la laboro. Me skribos ad elu ke me informis Idistaro pri la projeto, e > probable ulu / uli ek ni partoprenos. > > Singlu darfas ponderar ka la agado di la firmo esas suportinda o ne. > La suba mesajo esas en la Angliana ed esas parto di lua e-posto a me. > Elua adreso esas > > stephanie.silvan(apud)lionbridge.com > > Amikale, Arto > > The project is aiming at modern computer recognition and the ability > of artificial intelligences to identify a word in a rare language. So > we would like to ask people with the relevant language skills to > categorize words in their language for us, using specific guidelines > that will be provided beforehand. > > Payments will be conducted via PayPal using our Work Market freelancer > portal.This registration link should directly lead you to the relevant > talent pool for the Ido language: _https://goo.gl/JsmmZE_ > > The rates for categorizing the Ido language will be paid out per word. > Based on experience, beginners usually reach a rate of 400 words per > hour (decisions are made very quickly) and each word will be > compensated with 0.175 USD. This would result in an hourly rate of > approximately 70 USD per hour. > > We would be very happy to welcome you in the ranks of our linguistic > freelancers. If you know anyone with skills in the Ido language, > please let me know or forward this email directly to the applicant, so > they can register with the link. > > Stephanie Silvan > Tampere Recruitment and Vendor Management > Lionbridge Technologies, Inc. > Hermiankatu 12C, FI-33720, Tampere, Finland > > > > > --------------A6F409C7579DAF335F478038 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Kara Arto

siorino Silvan skribis a la GIS.
E me ja respondis  e sendis ad el la ret-adresi di Hans Stuifbergen e Jean Martignon.
Quik me itere sendos amba ad el.

Saluti amikala
Eberhard


Von: arto.moisio2@saunalahti.fi [idolisto] Datum: 13.04.2017 14:50

Kara Idistaro

 

Me esis kontaktita da siorino Stephanie Silvan, qua serchis por lua projeto homi qui savas sat bone Ido. Lo esas forsan la unesma foyo kande pagesas pekunio pro la savo di Ido. La sola kondiciono esas relative bona savo pri la Angliana linguo.

 

Me ipsa ne havas tempo por ol ma forsan ulu nun divenas interesata da la laboro. Me skribos ad elu ke me informis Idistaro pri la projeto, e probable ulu / uli ek ni partoprenos.

 

Singlu darfas ponderar ka la agado di la firmo esas suportinda o ne. La suba mesajo esas en la Angliana ed esas parto di lua e-posto a me. Elua adreso esas

 

stephanie.silvan(apud)lionbridge.com

 

Amikale, Arto

 

 

 

The project is aiming at modern computer recognition and the ability of artificial intelligences to identify a word in a rare language. So we would like to ask people with the relevant language skills to categorize words in their language for us, using specific guidelines that will be provided beforehand. 

 

Payments will be conducted via PayPal using our Work Market freelancer portal.  This registration link should directly lead you to the relevant talent pool for the Ido language: https://goo.gl/JsmmZE 

 

The rates for categorizing the Ido language will be paid out per word. Based on experience, beginners usually reach a rate of 400 words per hour (decisions are made very quickly) and each word will be compensated with 0.175 USD. This would result in an hourly rate of approximately 70 USD per hour. 

 

We would be very happy to welcome you in the ranks of our linguistic freelancers. If you know anyone with skills in the Ido language, please let me know or forward this email directly to the applicant, so they can register with the link.

 

Stephanie Silvan  
Tampere Recruitment and Vendor Management 
Lionbridge Technologies, Inc. 
Hermiankatu 12C, FI-33720, Tampere, Finland

 



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Saluti= amikala, Hans Stuifbergen -- Wikipedio en Ido: https://io.wikipedia.org/wi= ki/Frontispico ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Dat= um : 13/04/2017 14:50 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp : [idolisto]= Laboreyo per Ido Kara Idistaro Me esis kontaktita= da siorino Stephanie Silvan, qua serchis por lua projeto homi qui savas sa= t bone Ido. Lo esas forsan la unesma foyo kande pagesas pekunio pro la savo= di Ido. La sola kondiciono esas relative bona savo pri la Angliana linguo.= Me ipsa ne havas tempo por ol ma forsan ulu nun divenas interesa= ta da la laboro. Me skribos ad elu ke me informis Idistaro pri la projeto, = e probable ulu / uli ek ni partoprenos. Singlu darfas ponderar ka= la agado di la firmo esas suportinda o ne. La suba mesajo esas en la Angli= ana ed esas parto di lua e-posto a me. Elua adreso esas stephani= e.silvan(apud)lionbridge.com Amikale, Arto = The project is aiming at modern computer recognition and the ability of art= ificial intelligences to identify a word in a rare language. So we would li= ke to ask people with the relevant language skills to categorize words in t= heir language for us, using specific guidelines that will be provided befor= ehand. Payments will be conducted via PayPal using our Work Mar= ket freelancer portal. This registration link should directly lead you to = the relevant talent pool for the Ido language: https://goo.gl/JsmmZE = The rates for categorizing the Ido language will be paid out per word= . Based on experience, beginners usually reach a rate of 400 words per hour= (decisions are made very quickly) and each word will be compensated with 0= .175 USD. This would result in an hourly rate of approximately 70 USD per h= our. We would be very happy to welcome you in the ranks of our = linguistic freelancers. If you know anyone with skills in the Ido language,= please let me know or forward this email directly to the applicant, so the= y can register with the link. Stephanie Silvan Tampere Recr= uitment and Vendor Management Lionbridge Technologies, Inc. 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Kara Eberhard, kara Arto,
 
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Saluti amikala,
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Hans Stuifbergen
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----Origineel Bericht----
Van : idolisto@yahoogro= ups.com
Datum : 13/04/2017 14:50
Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
On= derwerp : [idolisto] Laboreyo per Ido

 

=

Kara Idistaro

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Me es= is kontaktita da siorino Stephanie Silvan, qua serchis por lua projeto homi= qui savas sat bone Ido. Lo esas forsan la unesma foyo kande pagesas pekuni= o pro la savo di Ido. La sola kondiciono esas relative bona savo pri la Ang= liana linguo.

 

Me ipsa ne havas tempo por ol ma forsan ulu nun divenas interesa= ta da la laboro. Me skribos ad elu ke me informis Idistaro pri la projeto, = e probable ulu / uli ek ni partoprenos.

 

Singlu darfas ponderar ka la agado di = la firmo esas suportinda o ne. La suba mesajo esas en la Angliana ed esas p= arto di lua e-posto a me. Elua adreso esas

 

stephanie.silvan(apud)lionbridge.c= om

&n= bsp;

= Amikale, Arto

 

 

 

The project is aiming at modern comput= er recognition and the ability of artificial intelligences to identify a wo= rd in a rare language. So we would like to ask people with the relevant lan= guage skills to categorize words in their language for us, using specific g= uidelines that will be provided beforehand. 

=

 

Payments will be conducted via PayPal using o= ur Work Market freelancer portal.  This registration link= should directly lead you to the relevant talent pool for the Ido language:= ht= tps://goo.gl/JsmmZE 

=

 

The rates for categorizing the Ido language wil= l be paid out per word. Based on experience, beginners usually reach a rate= of 400 words per hour (decisions are made very quickly) and each word will= be compensated with 0.175 USD. This would result in an hourly rate of appr= oximately 70 USD per hour. 

 

We would be very happy to welcome you in the ranks of our ling= uistic freelancers. If you know anyone with skills in the Ido language, ple= ase let me know or forward this email directly to the applicant, so they ca= n register with the link.

 

Stephanie Silvan  
   
Tampere Recruitment and Vendor =
Management 

   
Lionbridg=
e Technologies, Inc. 

   
Hermiankatu 12C, FI-33720, Tampere, Finland

   
 
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Meaopinione ca voko a laboro esis aperta. Irgu povas questionar pri plusa informajo, se la laboro semblas esar pasabla. Pos questionir on savas. Amikale, Arto 'jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl' jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl [idolisto] kirjoitti 14.4.2017 00:47: > Kara Eberhard, kara Arto, > > Me ne esas deskomplezanta helpar la siorino e l'universitato, ma me ne > tre bone komprenas quon me devas facar exakte. > > Saluti amikala, > > Hans Stuifbergen > > -- > > _Wikipedio en Ido: https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontispico [2]_ > >> ----Origineel Bericht---- >> Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com >> Datum : 13/04/2017 14:50 >> Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com >> Onderwerp : [idolisto] Laboreyo per Ido >> >> Kara Idistaro >> >> Me esis kontaktita da siorino Stephanie Silvan, qua serchis por lua >> projeto homi qui savas sat bone Ido. Lo esas forsan la unesma foyo >> kande pagesas pekunio pro la savo di Ido. La sola kondiciono esas >> relative bona savo pri la Angliana linguo. >> >> Me ipsa ne havas tempo por ol ma forsan ulu nun divenas interesata >> da la laboro. Me skribos ad elu ke me informis Idistaro pri la >> projeto, e probable ulu / uli ek ni partoprenos. >> >> Singlu darfas ponderar ka la agado di la firmo esas suportinda o ne. >> La suba mesajo esas en la Angliana ed esas parto di lua e-posto a >> me. Elua adreso esas >> >> stephanie.silvan(apud)lionbridge.com >> >> Amikale, Arto >> >> The project is aiming at modern computer recognition and the ability >> of artificial intelligences to identify a word in a rare language. >> So we would like to ask people with the relevant language skills to >> categorize words in their language for us, using specific guidelines >> that will be provided beforehand. >> >> Payments will be conducted via PayPal using our Work Market >> freelancer portal. This registration link should directly lead you >> to the relevant talent pool for the Ido language: >> https://goo.gl/JsmmZE [1] >> >> The rates for categorizing the Ido language will be paid out per >> word. Based on experience, beginners usually reach a rate of 400 >> words per hour (decisions are made very quickly) and each word will >> be compensated with 0.175 USD. This would result in an hourly rate >> of approximately 70 USD per hour. >> >> We would be very happy to welcome you in the ranks of our linguistic >> freelancers. 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u=561031406; y=9JymVumtVptpg2wAlLEGCyAcnpdHwNGKs9bwylapRY1An0oNgXs X-Yahoo-Profile: fkasper2002 From: Frank Kasper Kara geamiki, Okazione la 80ma mortal aniversario di Heinrich Peus eventis memoriva solenajo ye 9esma aprilo en Dessau(Germania). La socialdemokrata partiso invitis anke la German Ido-Societo. Amba societi honoris komune eminenta politikisto ed Idista vizionero per laudinda diskursi. Peus esis membro dil Germana parlamento e prezidanto di la parlamento dil landeto Anhalt. Preske omna sua politikala skriptajin Peus publikigis dulingue, en Germana ed en Ido. La Idisti Gert Heintze ed Eberhard Scholz partoprenis ica memorajo. Kelka fotografuri pri ca evento trovesas ye http://www.idoamiki.berlin.idolinguo.de/index.php/IAB/Peusehrung2017 . Me deziras a vi omna Felica Paskofesto. Kordiale salutas vi omna Frank Kasper -- Frank Kasper Postfach 73 01 28 D- 90243 Nuernberg Germania telefonilo: +49 911 9904930 faxilo: +49 911 4778130810 portebla telefonilo: +49 176 57923933 e-posto: frank@kasper.ag From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 26802 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-Apparently-To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30762 invoked by uid 102); 14 Apr 2017 19:26:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.36) by m2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2017 19:26:14 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 26699 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2017 19:26:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mta1003.groups.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.170.167) by mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2017 19:26:14 -0000 X-Original-Return-Path: X-Received-SPF: none (domain of kpnmail.nl does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-YMailISG: 7JQyskkWLDsxQz5QE8F3gzAEkheqj_7XsGh6WC3UkOtkkRlB h.9AuYV1sgNAwlIKbEdhpgZud_C5f8HsxauOUCU6Su2B4TmouUIG4wvOMKjV WNDt.FdpKfR_NADemvxzq8rj.9cFtRVI3zLzgCPSUtgFYgIpeooz.3yhNflL zrMS.1_Cfpi30Gw0PDB0NjBwB5iJZ3mfMRF4qSuJgvJtqDBPDlJWXgt__.EV Nv6qSlymPGWgbP2zPLKRa6cio5SPdawDuXHSudFXE3T6oWrEonsLIaoXNMQS 5FKtsv_TePDdMePLRvDIIhYX2bztwdNt9UWyZFf2CdYIMnrrR7u0fi_0ZvzG hUKd3r_VnWNTJIIaYxxr5FGCemAcDxAdt036U7vNq313oz_iU3CDx5qAh8na GLSEMKbLpCSZLmk5M8kqTYkG1K0g0HIH_TI7zBljVeaZRJdudr1X2_h59SPN fcXr4Z.S2GBRpDJuSWL5ddkSm4ISMVu8Bj9nXW0No1JUB_qY4v8oXOqNXRAp fdMhAoJKgWE2gmyYGXraG.GeWUWP70U47TGf7BVLO9h0a.81G9.bJu9alKfX TWdpyGvuYyoKlVSXq1cW0KIgzC1w_HH0mymdmR7Tr9QKAFa_41BywFO0xF8e JAjCOJWXTo00zZU3oMmY6DZadRiGP1q6Foz.jsX7EL3TXvBdm55Gx60QuqNV gqavbZC6sCRHJ7KVDvctrsgeZULxDM3NztgPARguprL16O_5wuofg1R1C4zx mwcirIOS.5ZGewEc5S0ZJ3Im8JBylHaQBgTexohsju3Pd_dLtP9H9k0Duvqn oHsqAeUhDePykhm2xUQgt_km10s8zf.cQSYHO6yCKdjk1Bgavj63ThsalZZA aCCd28TVz2GMuzIfRIAlWuP7robXJpiCB5efBhvum0TLLYWNsA5oAU0XZQzR HPL.EEKMkvNbTN3R0FouSi2RUjwZmCAf8JMbLzP3i7sKLbQOtlIntdMccTkb Ejy5os3yfT7YrjYt1mLhSwxOahv7i9y0LCyP2zzf28dupIXKqA1QNKxORklX nA.BgK9ABweQsr5uhX1DBcJjM.SeL7c6EYlSA3LraklwNUqOdSWda3VIabbv 3mDYTBVZjXTjTs7GIGF.dWPtApYuL1PPq6jhR4MkHFsbHBUPkpLlU_BU_9iT xHz58aShpqMDWpN4dhXxuyZRm43WHbJdsS2HiZJhIgj6tqHdA5AFckqdLb7X We_uBnA1CDuI7WWNsQIs.cMEsuOgtRflJ8pMAI.FzQP.MVW5tbnbwUUhNzQ_ DFJu9SgCxopCyCjliVsHWgKrLEq8R7BObl16btHbHbhMuELf_5R1iUTRFf8I tGtSMxohe7nqhkJsCJxfgLNEBlF1847WYQ.5YkC8LJCqNA_.P.66_QbfY0yd syZRtIF4NlYQ9peIZanPyFpdIZB6W2TEd709gEo07sHqWUahQmDoPbv6Om.1 n5jpTT2jXcSMl6CnSaqxcMHzHWZczNPBs_ZDKik3c_L09IVz9WawmrkXTzjs GG.dauCtXQlyqy35UQSisT0gapeh6zvfZpKXGwPlpV08f3jwjoonj0D5kQGV 8zy_aPtchnl0hyMwk3YiVsq5e7AUNagblWAoDdxRYixyeZiNDRqqeIGDT5Fo mAcwFZlxr3PVbf5qnmvP_i1q66JNsJY- Authentication-Results: mta1003.groups.mail.bf1.yahoo.com from=kpnmail.nl; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=kpnmail.nl; dkim=pass (ok) X-Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com) (213.75.39.4) by mta1003.groups.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 19:26:14 +0000 X-Received: from cpsps-ews06.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.173]) by cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:26:13 +0200 X-Brand: 7abm2Q== X-Received: from CPSMTPM-EML09.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.79]) by cpsps-ews06.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.5.9600.16384); Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:26:13 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_21089_25106922.1492197973447" X-Received: from cpxpres-msg11 ([10.94.114.44]) by CPSMTPM-EML09.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:26:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:26:13 +0200 (CEST) To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <25064253.21090.1492197973450.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> In-Reply-To: <9c54f215-4b64-3d90-8375-78d8a6ee742d@kasper.ag> References: <9c54f215-4b64-3d90-8375-78d8a6ee742d@kasper.ag> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CP-REPLY-UID: 25273 X-CP-REPLY-PATH: INBOX Importance: 3 (Normal) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Client-IP: IPv4[84.85.150.51] Epoch[1492197973448] X-Original-Return-Path: jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Apr 2017 19:26:13.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAC43A50:01D2B554] X-RcptDomain: yahoogroups.com Reply-To: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" Subject: Re: [idolisto] Solenajo okazione la 80ma mortal aniversario di Heinrich Peus eventis ye 09ma di aprilo 2017 en Dessau (Germania) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=544479525; y=BV6XNlIGbLZHtszj5-8ApqENn-2FMy49dd9I_F3j8SWvrnbMPiEDCp66CuJaQzXlFbF7b4Z08F4Dpbo X-Yahoo-Profile: cacaff0f6f8585a3d8c6d56ca3470f39 From: "jjstuifbergen1961@kpnmail.nl" ------=_Part_21089_25106922.14921979734447 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21088_6182520.1492197973447" ------=_Part_21088_6182520.14921979734477 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Frank, Danko pro tua ago memoriganta Heinrich Peus. Me publikigos tua = mesajo e fotografuri ye Facebook. Me deziras a tu bona pasko! Saluti amikal= a, Hans Stuifbergen -- Wikipedio en Ido: https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fron= tispico ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : idolisto@yahoogroups.com Datum : 14= /04/2017 14:56 Aan : idolisto@yahoogroups.com, germanlinguaidist@yahoogroup= s.de, gerhild@drogi.de Onderwerp : [idolisto] Solenajo okazione la 80ma mor= tal aniversario di Heinrich Peus eventis ye 09ma di aprilo 2017 en Dessau (= Germania) Kara geamiki, Okazione la 80ma mortal aniversario di = Heinrich Peus eventis memoriva solenajo ye 9esma aprilo en Dessau(Germani= a). La socialdemokrata partiso invitis anke la German Ido-Societo. Amba s= ocieti honoris komune eminenta politikisto ed Idista vizionero per laudi= nda diskursi. Peus esis membro dil Germana parlamento e prezidanto di la = parlamento dil landeto Anhalt. Preske omna sua politikala skriptajin Peus= publikigis dulingue, en Germana ed en Ido. La Idisti Gert Heintze ed Eber= hard Scholz partoprenis ica memorajo. Kelka fotografuri pri ca evento trov= esas ye http://www.idoamiki.berlin.idolinguo.de/index.php/IAB/Peusehrung20= 17 . Me deziras a vi omna Felica Paskofesto. 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Kara Frank,
 
Danko pro tua ago memoriganta H= einrich Peus. Me publikigos tua mesajo e fotografuri ye Facebook.
 
Me deziras a tu bona pasko!
 
Sa= luti amikala,
 
Hans Stuifbergen
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----Origineel Bericht----
Van= : idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Datum : 14/04/2017 14:56
Aan : idolisto@y= ahoogroups.com, germanlinguaidist@yahoogroups.de, gerhild@drogi.de
Onder= werp : [idolisto] Solenajo okazione la 80ma mortal aniversario di Heinrich = Peus eventis ye 09ma di aprilo 2017 en Dessau (Germania)

 

Kara geamiki,

Okazione la 80ma mortal aniversario di = Heinrich Peus eventis memoriva
solenajo ye 9esma aprilo en Dessau(Germ= ania). La socialdemokrata partiso
invitis anke la German Ido-Societo. = Amba societi honoris komune eminenta
politikisto ed Idista vizionero
per laudinda diskursi. Peus esis membro dil Germana parlamento e prezidanto di la parlamento dil landeto Anhalt. Preske omna sua
poli= tikala skriptajin Peus publikigis dulingue, en Germana ed en Ido.

L= a Idisti Gert Heintze ed Eberhard Scholz partoprenis ica memorajo.

= Kelka fotografuri pri ca evento trovesas ye
http://www.idoamiki.b= erlin.idolinguo.de/index.php/IAB/Peusehrung2017 .

Me deziras a = vi omna Felica Paskofesto.

Kordiale salutas vi omna

Frank K= asper
--
Frank Kasper
Postfach 73 01 28
D- 90243 Nuernberg=
Germania
telefonilo: +49 911 9904930
faxilo: +49 911 477813081= 0
portebla telefonilo: +49 176 57923933
e-posto: frank@kasper.ag

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y=_PNx0DObzZ8CSjBnuoqd5MKOaJLhspy7cUoG0Gr-lew X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB167282D62F11C4154BA7BE966A4330DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rezumo dil artikli kreita che Wikipedio dum la lasta semano: https://io.= wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich-manus= kripto https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn https://io.wikiped= ia.org/wiki/Penang https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Jazz_Festival = Kordiale JC --_000_DB6PR10MB167282D62F11C4154BA7BE966A4330DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rezumo dil artikli kreita= che Wikipedio dum la lasta semano:



https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young

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https://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn

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u=24528831; y=xzpB0a9c2GBmIcvJJakKwIWGEpyhOlFov9c1uhWOltg X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB16727B55DD6A74D8F2413B644A41B0DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara amiki Hodie, nia Ido-Wikipedio atingis 27000 artikli. Gratuli ad om= nu, qua irgatempe kreis artiklo. Ni bezonas plu multa redakteri. Ka vu p= ovus krear artikli? Esas du redaktili, la bazala por ti qui prizas labora= r per la fonto, e nova "Visual Editor" simila kam Word e tala programi. O= n povas tradukar de irga linguo, quon on komprenas. Ka vu povus helpar? = JC --_000_DB6PR10MB16727B55DD6A74D8F2413B644A41B0DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara amiki

<= br>

Hodie, nia Ido-Wikipedio atingis 27000 artikli.  Gratuli a= d omnu, qua irgatempe kreis artiklo.


Ni bezonas pl= u multa redakteri.  Ka vu povus krear artikli?


Esa= s du redaktili, la bazala por ti qui prizas laborar per la fonto, e nova &q= uot;Visual Editor" simila kam Word e tala programi.


<= p>On povas tradukar de irga linguo, quon on komprenas.


= Ka vu povus helpar?


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=lZaZeQ8VQPtfdUIw6_9KOmQTCvjZQ8mq1xDB9-KvsJc X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB1672316706FD4812294049DCCA41E0DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Partaka Hodie me foliumis la recenta mesaji che la forumo ICO, e me = astonesis - me preske falis de mea stulo - kande me remarkis posibla korekt= igo di frazo skribita da me, che Idolisto. Ka vu korektigas mesaji de ca l= isto che ICO? Me ne savis to. Omnakaze, vua korektigo esas ipsa ne tote = justa, nam vu ne citis la plena frazo. Yes, quAn esas plu korekta kam quOn= , ma pro ke ol sequis irgA. Sen to, la frazoparto citita da vu esas ambigu= a. Ol povus esar justa, o nejusta, depende de lo preiranta. Me ne povas = evitar la penso, ke vua tempo plu bone uzesus por ulo altra, exemple, respo= ndizar mea mesajo ipsa, la kontenajo di ol. O mem plu bone, helpar ni che = Wikipedio, per krear o korektigar artikli ibe. Esas multa texti korektigen= da, tasko nun prisorgata da nia sdo Joao Xavier. Korektigema saluti JC = --_000_DB6PR10MB1672316706FD4812294049DCCA41E0DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Partaka


Hodie me foliumis la recenta mesaji che la forumo ICO, e me a= stonesis - me preske falis de mea stulo - kande me remarkis posibla korekti= go di frazo skribita da me, che Idolisto.  Ka vu korektigas mesaji de&= nbsp;ca listo che ICO?  Me ne savis to.


Omnakaze, = vua korektigo esas ipsa ne tote justa, nam vu ne citis la plena frazo. &nbs= p;Yes, quAn esas plu korekta kam quOn, ma pro ke ol sequis irgA.  Sen = to, la frazoparto citita da vu esas ambigua.  Ol povus esar justa, o n= ejusta, depende de lo preiranta.


Me ne povas evitar la = penso, ke vua tempo plu bone uzesus por ulo altra, exemple, respondizar mea= mesajo ipsa, la kontenajo di ol.  O mem plu bone, helpar ni che Wikip= edio, per krear o korektigar artikli ibe.  Esas multa texti korektigen= da, tasko nun prisorgata da nia sdo Joao Xavier.



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Korektigema saluti

JC



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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=qppKTUA9aTBs7Uy0G2ALGv4vO36MhOK2YUlzc3FEm_C233xt0s_kW3Q X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas From: Partaka ------=_Part_11119129_609842987.14931266691003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ho, yes, kara James! Che IdoCatalaOccitan (ICO), me korektigas vorti (od em= endas erori), de multa yari ante nun, ne nur del forumo Idolisto, ma anke d= e irga publika Ido-forumi, quin me povas vizitar.=C2=A0Altra-latere, sufica= s a me, ke tu komprenabas, ke lo justa esas "(irga) linguo, quAn (ne quon) = on komprenas,", nam anke to povas helpar nia Ido che Wikipedia. (Me ipsa ku= nlaboras, meamaniere e tote libere, che nia Wikipedio e Wikivortaro). Quale= me ja dicis ul-foye, mem se me helpus Ido altra-maniere, me ne cesus helpa= r ldo e l'Idistaro per mea rubriko "Kelka korektiguri", quan irgu povas lek= tar che ICO.=C2=A0Me profitas por sendar a tu mea maxim kordial ed amikal s= aluto de Barcelona.=C2=A0 =C2=A0(Partaka) =C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/= group/posta_Mundi=C2=A0-http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan= =C2=A0-=C2=A0 ------- James Chandler skribis che Idolisto: =C2=A0 = Kara Partaka Hodie me foliumis la recenta mesaji che la forumo ICO, e me as= tonesis - me preske falis de mea stulo - kande me remarkis posibla korektig= o di frazo skribita da me, che Idolisto. =C2=A0Ka vu korektigas mesaji de= =C2=A0ca listo che ICO? =C2=A0Me ne savis to. Omnakaze, vua korektigo esas = ipsa ne tote justa, nam vu ne citis la plena frazo. =C2=A0Yes, quAn esas pl= u korekta kam quOn, ma pro ke ol sequis irgA. =C2=A0Sen to, la frazoparto c= itita da vu esas ambigua. =C2=A0Ol povus esar justa, o nejusta, depende de = lo preiranta. Me ne povas evitar la penso, ke vua tempo plu bone uzesus por= ulo altra, exemple, respondizar mea mesajo ipsa, la kontenajo di ol. =C2= =A0O mem plu bone, helpar ni che Wikipedio, per krear o korektigar artikli = ibe. =C2=A0Esas multa texti korektigenda, tasko nun prisorgata da nia sdo J= oao Xavier. 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Ho, yes, kara = James! Che IdoCatalaOccitan (ICO), me korektigas vorti (od emendas erori), = de multa yari ante nun, ne nur del forumo Idolisto, ma anke de irga publika= Ido-forumi, quin me povas vizitar. 
Altra-latere, suficas a me, ke tu komprena= bas, ke lo justa esas "(irga) linguo, quAn (ne quon) on komprenas,", nam an= ke to povas helpar nia Ido che Wikipedia. (Me ipsa kunlaboras, meamaniere e= tote libere, che nia Wikipedio e Wikivortaro). Quale me ja dicis ul-foye, = mem se me helpus Ido altra-maniere, me ne cesus helpar ldo e l'Idistaro per= mea rubriko "Kelka korektiguri", quan irgu povas lektar che ICO. 
Me profitas = por sendar a tu mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto de Barcelona. 

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Kara Partaka

Hodie= me foliumis la recenta mesaji che la forumo ICO, e me astonesis - me presk= e falis de mea stulo - kande me remarkis posibla korektigo di frazo skribit= a da me, che Idolisto.  Ka vu korektigas mesaji de ca listo che I= CO?  Me ne savis to.

Omnaka= ze, vua korektigo esas ipsa ne tote justa, nam vu ne citis la plena frazo. =  Yes, quAn esas plu korekta kam quOn, ma pro ke ol sequis irgA.  = Sen to, la frazoparto citita da vu esas ambigua.  Ol povus esar justa,= o nejusta, depende de lo preiranta.

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Me ne povas evitar la penso, ke vua tempo plu bone uzesus por ulo altr= a, exemple, respondizar mea mesajo ipsa, la kontenajo di ol.  O mem pl= u bone, helpar ni che Wikipedio, per krear o korektigar artikli ibe.  = Esas multa texti korektigenda, tasko nun prisorgata da nia sdo Joao Xavier= .


Korektigema saluti
JC




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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=5FcYdU42mzd6A_ZpsOepkjf5rgZabwk1Ni95i7My6Ls X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB167246F35E26BD5FFF9A908BBA41E0DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Partaka Danko pro vua respondo. Me quik remarkis, kande me recevis = mea mesajo de Yahoo, ke me skribabis quOn vice quAn. Me opinionis ke ca er= oro esis tante mikra, ke ol ne meritis plusa korektigo-mesajo. quAn esas y= a plu korekta kam quOn ibe, ma quOn ne esas tote nekorekta, ed ol certe ne = nocas la komprenebleso. Tala eroro (per un litero) povus anke rezultar de = mashinskriberoro, ka ne? Me kelke objecionas kontre la praktiko, korektig= ar mesaji de un forumo che altra forumo. Esus preferinda, se vu sendus vua= korektigi ad Idolisto, tale ke la "erorinto" povez respondar. Me kompren= as per vua vorti sube, ke vu kontributas a Wikipedio anonime per IP-adreso.= Kordiale JC ________________________________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups.= com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es= [idolisto] Sent: 25 April 2017 14:24 To: idolis= to@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto= ] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan? Ho, yes, kara James! Che IdoCatalaO= ccitan (ICO), me korektigas vorti (od emendas erori), de multa yari ante nu= n, ne nur del forumo Idolisto, ma anke de irga publika Ido-forumi, quin me = povas vizitar. Altra-latere, suficas a me, ke tu komprenabas, ke lo justa e= sas "(irga) linguo, quAn (ne quon) on komprenas,", nam anke to povas helpar= nia Ido che Wikipedia. (Me ipsa kunlaboras, meamaniere e tote libere, che = nia Wikipedio e Wikivortaro). Quale me ja dicis ul-foye, mem se me helpus I= do altra-maniere, me ne cesus helpar ldo e l'Idistaro per mea rubriko "Kelk= a korektiguri", quan irgu povas lektar che ICO. Me profitas por sendar a tu= mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto de Barcelona. --_000_DB6PR10MB167246F35E26BD5FFF9A908BBA41E0DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Partaka


Danko pro vua respondo.  Me quik remarkis, kande me rece= vis mea mesajo de Yahoo, ke me skribabis quOn vice quAn.  Me opinionis= ke ca eroro esis tante mikra, ke ol ne meritis plusa korektigo-mesajo. &nb= sp;quAn esas ya plu korekta kam quOn ibe, ma quOn ne esas tote nekorekta, = ed ol certe ne nocas la komprenebleso.  Tala eroro (per un litero) pov= us anke rezultar de mashinskriberoro, ka ne?


Me kelke o= bjecionas kontre la praktiko, korektigar mesaji de un forumo che altra foru= mo.  Esus preferinda, se vu sendus vua korektigi ad Idolisto, tale ke = la "erorinto" povez respondar.


Me komprenas p= er vua vorti sube, ke vu kontributas a Wikipedio anonime per IP-adreso.

=
Kordiale
JC

From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] =
Sent: 25 April 2017 14:24
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Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?  


Ho, y= es, kara James! Che IdoCatalaOccitan (ICO), me korektigas vorti (od emendas= erori), de multa yari ante nun, ne nur del forumo Idolisto, ma anke de irg= a publika Ido-forumi, quin me povas vizitar. 
Altra-latere, suficas a me, ke t= u komprenabas, ke lo justa esas "(irga) linguo, quAn (ne quon) on komp= renas,", nam anke to povas helpar nia Ido che Wikipedia. (Me ipsa kunl= aboras, meamaniere e tote libere, che nia Wikipedio e Wikivortaro). Quale = me ja dicis ul-foye, mem se me helpus Ido altra-maniere, me ne cesus helpar= ldo e l'Idistaro per mea rubriko "Kelka korektiguri", quan irgu = povas lektar che ICO. 
Me profitas por sendar a tu mea maxim kordial ed amikal= saluto de Barcelona.
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=_wG9t_jFWSYGTYT5md9jTImQUCw0yDhRXaYEGFd98h4nsbaKDutr7ZY X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas From: Partaka ------=_Part_11467447_639280857.14931366649175 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amiko James: la problemo esas plu profunda. Che tua frazo, "irga linguo, qu= on on komprenas", yen ke "quon" esas ne-korekta (kun "irga" e sen "irga"), = nam "linguo" esas kozo determinita, e "quo(n)" esas justa nur por fakto o k= ozo ne-determinita. Konseque, "linguo, quAn on komprenas" (e ne "quOn on ko= mprenas") esas lo korekta. Yen exemplo pri justa uzo di "quo(n)": "Onu skri= bis a me per Idolinguo, quon me komprenas" (me komprenas la fakto, ke on sk= ribis a me per Ido). Tamen, "Idolinguo, quAn me komprenas" signifikas, ke m= e komprenas Ido (kozo determinita). Yen: "linguo, quAn me uzas", "aquo, quA= n me drinkas". =C2=A0Che IdoCatalaOccitan, me enlistigas "erori", ne "erori= nti" (che mea listo, me nule mencionis tua nomo). Tamen, quale skribite, IC= O esas videbla e lektebla da omnu, do, irgu povas e darfas komentar o disku= tar irgo, quo esas ibe, sive per partoprenar ICO ipsa, sive per agar de irg= altra Ido-forumo, quale tu ipsa agis.=C2=A0(Altra-latere, me sempre pensas= , ke IdoCatalaOccitan esas same efikiva, ma plu diskreta, por korektiguri)= =C2=A0 =C2=A0(Partaka)http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi=C2=A0-= =C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=C2=A0-=C2=A0 -= ------=C2=A0 James Chandler skribis: =C2=A0 Kara Partaka Danko pro vua= respondo. =C2=A0Me quik remarkis, kande me recevis mea mesajo de Yahoo, ke= me skribabis quOn vice quAn. =C2=A0Me opinionis ke ca eroro esis tante mik= ra, ke ol ne meritis plusa korektigo-mesajo. =C2=A0quAn esas ya plu korekta= kam quOn ibe, ma quOn ne esas tote nekorekta, ed ol certe ne nocas la komp= renebleso. =C2=A0Tala eroro (per un litero) povus anke rezultar de mashinsk= riberoro, ka ne? Me kelke objecionas kontre la praktiko, korektigar mesaji = de un forumo che altra forumo. =C2=A0Esus preferinda, se vu sendus vua kore= ktigi ad Idolisto, tale ke la "erorinto" povez respondar. Me komprenas per = vua vorti sube, ke vu kontributas a Wikipedio anonime per IP-adreso. Kordia= leJC From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf o= f Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sen= t: 25 April 2017 14:24 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoo= groups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?=C2=A0= Ho, yes, kara James! Che IdoCatalaOccitan (ICO), me korektigas vorti (od = emendas erori), de multa yari ante nun, ne nur del forumo Idolisto, ma anke= de irga publika Ido-forumi, quin me povas vizitar.=C2=A0Altra-latere, sufi= cas a me, ke tu komprenabas, ke lo justa esas "(irga) linguo, quAn (ne quon= ) on komprenas,", nam anke to povas helpar nia Ido che Wikipedia. (Me ipsa = kunlaboras, meamaniere e tote libere, che nia Wikipedio e Wikivortaro). 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Amiko James: la problemo es= as plu profunda. Che tua frazo, "irga linguo, quon on komprenas", yen ke "q= uon" esas ne-korekta (kun "irga" e sen "irga"), nam "linguo" esas kozo dete= rminita, e "quo(n)" esas justa nur por fakto o kozo ne-determinita. Konsequ= e, "linguo, quAn on komprenas" (e ne "quOn on komprenas") esas lo korekta. = Yen exemplo pri justa uzo di "quo(n)": "Onu skribis a me per Idolinguo, quo= n me komprenas" (me komprenas la fakto, ke on skribis a me per Ido). Tamen,= "Idolinguo, quAn me komprenas" signifikas, ke me komprenas Ido (kozo deter= minita). Yen: "linguo, quAn me uzas", "aquo, quAn me drinkas".  
Che Ido= CatalaOccitan, me enlistigas "erori", ne "erorinti" (che mea listo, me nule= mencionis tua nomo). Tamen, quale skribite, ICO esas videbla e lektebla da= omnu, do, irgu povas e darfas komentar o diskutar irgo, quo esas ibe, sive= per partoprenar ICO ipsa, sive per agar de irg altra Ido-forumo, quale tu = ipsa agis. 
(Altra-latere, me sempre pensas, ke IdoCatalaOccitan esas same efi= kiva, ma plu diskreta, por korektiguri) 

 (Partaka)


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Jam= es Chandler skribis:

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Kara Pa= rtaka

Danko pro vua respondo. &n= bsp;Me quik remarkis, kande me recevis mea mesajo de Yahoo, ke me skribabis= quOn vice quAn.  Me opinionis ke ca eroro esis tante mikra, ke ol ne = meritis plusa korektigo-mesajo.  quAn esas ya plu korekta kam quOn ibe= , ma quOn ne esas tote nekorekta, ed ol certe ne nocas la komprenebleso. &= nbsp;Tala eroro (per un litero) povus anke rezultar de mashinskriberoro, ka= ne?

Me kelke objecionas kontre = la praktiko, korektigar mesaji de un forumo che altra forumo.  Esus pr= eferinda, se vu sendus vua korektigi ad Idolisto, tale ke la "erorinto" pov= ez respondar.

Me komprenas per v= ua vorti sube, ke vu kontributas a Wikipedio anonime per IP-adreso.
<= br clear=3D"none"> Kordiale
JC

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From: idol= isto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka = qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto]
Sent: 25 April 2017 14:24
To: = idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?=
 


Ho, yes, kara James! Che IdoCa= talaOccitan (ICO), me korektigas vorti (od emendas erori), de multa yari an= te nun, ne nur del forumo Idolisto, ma anke de irga publika Ido-forumi, qui= n me povas vizitar. 
Altra-latere, suficas a me, ke tu komprenaba= s, ke lo justa esas "(irga) linguo, quAn (ne quon) on komprenas,", nam anke= to povas helpar nia Ido che Wikipedia. (Me ipsa kunlaboras, meamaniere e t= ote libere, che nia Wikipedio e Wikivortaro). Quale me ja dicis ul-foye, m= em se me helpus Ido altra-maniere, me ne cesus helpar ldo e l'Idistaro per = mea rubriko "Kelka korektiguri", quan irgu povas lektar che ICO. 
Me profitas por sendar a tu mea maxim kordial ed amikal saluto de Barcelon= a.


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=3hlW3D1blqUGYT4aBONYKTU5gjhCym4jIqn78wmpVkU X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB1672FF086FD961D2D1BADCC77A4110DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Partaka Me komprenas tote bone la motivo, pro quo quAn esas generale= korekta pos "linguo". On povus krear frazo kun "linguo" ube quOn esas kor= ekta, nome se "linguo" esas la koncepto di linguo, vice ula linguo (la angl= a, franca ec.). Me jus rimemoris ke la franca havas du vorti por "linguo"= : F la langue F le langage Vua korektigo esas justa, kaze ke "linguo= " signifikas "la langue". Ma la importanta questiono esas, kande eroro mer= itas plusa korektigo-mesajo, nam che postolisto on povas korektigar sua las= ta mesajo nur per plusa mesajo ad omna membri. Me decidis ne sendar plusa = mesajo, e nulu plendis che Idolisto; intertempe, vu sendis korektigo ad ICO= , sen kuntexto, tale ke la membri di amba forumi restis "en tenebro". Kord= iale JC ________________________________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idol= isto] Sent: 25 April 2017 17:10 To: idolisto@yah= oogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka k= orektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan? Amiko James: la problemo esas plu profund= a. Che tua frazo, "irga linguo, quon on komprenas", yen ke "quon" esas ne-k= orekta (kun "irga" e sen "irga"), nam "linguo" esas kozo determinita, e "qu= o(n)" esas justa nur por fakto o kozo ne-determinita. Konseque, "linguo, qu= An on komprenas" (e ne "quOn on komprenas") esas lo korekta. Yen exemplo pr= i justa uzo di "quo(n)": "Onu skribis a me per Idolinguo, quon me komprenas= " (me komprenas la fakto, ke on skribis a me per Ido). Tamen, "Idolinguo, q= uAn me komprenas" signifikas, ke me komprenas Ido (kozo determinita). Yen: = "linguo, quAn me uzas", "aquo, quAn me drinkas". Che IdoCatalaOccitan, me e= nlistigas "erori", ne "erorinti" (che mea listo, me nule mencionis tua nomo= ). Tamen, quale skribite, ICO esas videbla e lektebla da omnu, do, irgu pov= as e darfas komentar o diskutar irgo, quo esas ibe, sive per partoprenar IC= O ipsa, sive per agar de irg altra Ido-forumo, quale tu ipsa agis. (Altra-l= atere, me sempre pensas, ke IdoCatalaOccitan esas same efikiva, ma plu disk= reta, por korektiguri) --_000_DB6PR10MB1672FF086FD961D2D1BADCC77A4110DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Partaka


Me komprenas tote bone la motivo, pro quo quAn esas generale = korekta pos "linguo".  On povus krear frazo kun "linguo= " ube quOn esas korekta, nome se "linguo" esas la koncepto d= i linguo, vice ula linguo (la angla, franca ec.).


Me ju= s rimemoris ke la franca havas du vorti por "linguo":


=

F  la langue

F  le langage


Vu= a korektigo esas justa, kaze ke "linguo" signifikas "la lang= ue".


Ma la importanta questiono esas, kande eroro= meritas plusa korektigo-mesajo, nam che postolisto on povas korektigar sua= lasta mesajo nur per plusa mesajo ad omna membri.  Me decidis ne send= ar plusa mesajo, e nulu plendis che Idolisto; intertempe, vu sendis korekt= igo ad ICO, sen kuntexto, tale ke la membri di amba forumi restis "en = tenebro".

Kordiale
JC

=
From= : idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf o= f Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sent: 25 April 2017 17:10
To: idolisto@yahoogroups= .com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] K= a korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?
 

=
Amiko James: la problemo esas plu profunda. Ch= e tua frazo, "irga linguo, quon on komprenas", yen ke "quon&= quot; esas ne-korekta (kun "irga" e sen "irga"), nam &= quot;linguo" esas kozo determinita, e "quo(n)" esas justa nu= r por fakto o kozo ne-determinita. Konseque, "linguo, quAn on komprena= s" (e ne "quOn on komprenas") esas lo korekta. Yen exemplo p= ri justa uzo di "quo(n)": "Onu skribis a me per Idolinguo, q= uon me komprenas" (me komprenas la fakto, ke on skribis a me per Ido)= . Tamen, "Idolinguo, quAn me komprenas" signifikas, ke me kompren= as Ido (kozo determinita). Yen: "linguo, quAn me uzas", "aqu= o, quAn me drinkas".  
Che IdoCatalaOccitan, me enlistigas "e= rori", ne "erorinti" (che mea listo, me nule mencionis tua n= omo). Tamen, quale skribite, ICO esas videbla e lektebla da omnu, do, irgu = povas e darfas komentar o diskutar irgo, quo esas ibe, sive per partoprena= r ICO ipsa, sive per agar de irg altra Ido-forumo, quale tu ipsa agis. = ;
(Altra= -latere, me sempre pensas, ke IdoCatalaOOccitan esas same efikiva, ma plu di= skreta, por korektiguri)
, "IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com" Message-ID: <637674647.12822327.1493234173372@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12822326_1977978955.1493234173366" References: <637674647.12822327.1493234173372.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.9408 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/58.0.3029.81 Safari/537.36 Content-Length: 32459 Reply-To: Partaka Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=fZ8y2mEcAhIEqcFz2Sq7HwdJwNv_bUGPETXWutC7-Io0XV3YT3w2P-Q X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas From: Partaka ------=_Part_12822326_1977978955.14932344173366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, kara James! Pos "linguo", nul-kaze "quo(n)" esas korekta, nam "linguo" = esas vorto determinita, quA (la vorto) bezonas "qua(n)". Plu klare: tu misu= zas tal "quo(n)" preske sempre (e de multa yari ante nun). Me tote komprena= s, ke tu havas tua motivi kredar, ke tal uzado esas justa, nam, kontree, tu= agus altra-maniere. Se tu advere deziras probar parklarigar ica temo, ni d= urez diskutar ol che Linguolisto, ube, forsan, plusa samideani (Robert, Tib= erio, Igor, Gilles-Philippe, edc) partoprenos olta per sua mesaji. Adavane!= =C2=A0 =C2=A0(Partaka)=C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi=C2= =A0-=C2=A0=C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=C2=A0-=C2= =A0 -------=C2=A0 James Chandler skribis: =C2=A0 Kara Partaka Me= komprenas tote bone la motivo, pro quo quAn esas generale korekta pos "lin= guo". =C2=A0On povus krear frazo kun "linguo" ube quOn esas korekta, nome s= e "linguo" esas la koncepto di linguo, vice ula linguo (la angla, franca ec= .). Me jus rimemoris ke la franca havas du vorti por "linguo": F =C2=A0la l= angueF =C2=A0le langage Vua korektigo esas justa, kaze ke "linguo" signifik= as "la langue". Ma la importanta questiono esas, kande eroro meritas plusa = korektigo-mesajo, nam che postolisto on povas korektigar sua lasta mesajo n= ur per plusa mesajo ad omna membri. =C2=A0Me decidis ne sendar plusa mesajo= , e nulu plendis che Idolisto; intertempe, vu sendis korektigo ad ICO, sen = kuntexto, tale ke la membri di amba forumi restis "en tenebro". KordialeJC = From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Part= aka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sent: 25 = April 2017 17:10 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups= .com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?=C2=A0 Amik= o James: la problemo esas plu profunda. Che tua frazo, "irga linguo, quon o= n komprenas", yen ke "quon" esas ne-korekta (kun "irga" e sen "irga"), nam = "linguo" esas kozo determinita, e "quo(n)" esas justa nur por fakto o kozo = ne-determinita. Konseque, "linguo, quAn on komprenas" (e ne "quOn on kompre= nas") esas lo korekta. Yen exemplo pri justa uzo di "quo(n)": "Onu skribis = a me per Idolinguo, quon me komprenas" (me komprenas la fakto, ke on skribi= s a me per Ido). Tamen, "Idolinguo, quAn me komprenas" signifikas, ke me ko= mprenas Ido (kozo determinita). Yen: "linguo, quAn me uzas", "aquo, quAn me= drinkas". =C2=A0Che IdoCatalaOccitan, me enlistigas "erori", ne "erorinti"= (che mea listo, me nule mencionis tua nomo). Tamen, quale skribite, ICO es= as videbla e lektebla da omnu, do, irgu povas e darfas komentar o diskutar = irgo, quo esas ibe, sive per partoprenar ICO ipsa, sive per agar de irg alt= ra Ido-forumo, quale tu ipsa agis.=C2=A0(Altra-latere, me sempre pensas, ke= IdoCatalaOccitan esas same efikiva, ma plu diskreta, por korektiguri) #yi= v7843414602 -- #yiv7843414602ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family= :Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7843414602 #yiv7843414602ygrp-mkp = hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7843414602 #yiv7843414602ygrp-mkp #yiv784= 3414602hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;mar= gin:10px 0;}#yiv7843414602 #yiv7843414602ygrp-mkp #yiv7843414602ads {margin= -bottom:10px;}#yiv7843414602 #yiv78434144602ygrp-mkp .yiv7843414602ad {paddi= ng:0 0;}#yiv7843414602 #yiv7843414602ygrp-mkp .yiv7843414602ad p {margin:0;= }#yiv7843414602 #yiv7843414602ygrp-mkp .yiv7843414602ad a {color:#0000ff;te= xt-decoration:none;}#yiv7843414602 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No, kara James! Pos "linguo", nul-kaze "quo(n)" esas korek= ta, nam "linguo" esas vorto determinita, quA (la vorto) bezonas "qua(n)". P= lu klare: tu misuzas tal "quo(n)" preske sempre (e de multa yari ante nun).= Me tote komprenas, ke tu havas tua motivi kredar, ke tal uzado esas justa,= nam, kontree, tu agus altra-maniere. Se tu advere deziras probar parklarig= ar ica temo, ni durez diskutar ol che Linguolisto, ube, forsan, plusa samid= eani (Robert, Tiberio, Igor, Gilles-Philippe, edc) partoprenos olta per sua= mesaji. Adavane! 

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Kara Partak= a

Me komprenas tote bone la moti= vo, pro quo quAn esas generale korekta pos "linguo".  On povus krear f= razo kun "linguo" ube quOn esas korekta, nome se "linguo" esas la koncepto = di linguo, vice ula linguo (la angla, franca ec.).

Me jus rimemoris ke la franca havas du vorti por "linguo= ":

F  la langue
= F  le langage

Vua korektigo= esas justa, kaze ke "linguo" signifikas "la langue".

Ma la importanta questiono esas, kande eroro meritas plus= a korektigo-mesajo, nam che postolisto on povas korektigar sua lasta mesajo= nur per plusa mesajo ad omna membri.  Me decidis ne sendar plusa mesa= jo, e nulu plendis che Idolisto; intertempe, vu sendis korektigo ad ICO, s= en kuntexto, tale ke la membri di amba forumi restis "en tenebro".
Kordiale
JC

From:<= /b> idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of = Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] =
Sent: 25 April 2017 17:10
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Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan= ?
 


Amiko James: la prob= lemo esas plu profunda. Che tua frazo, "irga linguo, quon on komprenas", ye= n ke "quon" esas ne-korekta (kun "irga" e sen "irga"), nam "linguo" esas k= ozo determinita, e "quo(n)" esas justa nur por fakto o kozo ne-determinita.= Konseque, "linguo, quAn on komprenas" (e ne "quOn on komprenas") esas lo k= orekta. Yen exemplo pri justa uzo di "quo(n)": "Onu skribis a me per Idolin= guo, quon me komprenas" (me komprenas la fakto, ke on skribis a me per Ido= ). Tamen, "Idolinguo, quAn me komprenas" signifikas, ke me komprenas Ido (k= ozo determinita). Yen: "linguo, quAn me uzas", "aquo, quAn me drinkas". &nb= sp;
Che IdoCatalaOccitan, me enlistigas "erori", ne "erorinti" = (che mea listo, me nule mencionis tua nomo). Tamen, quale skribite, ICO esa= s videbla e lektebla da omnu, do, irgu povas e darfas komentar o diskutar = irgo, quo esas ibe, sive per partoprenar ICO ipsa, sive per agar de irg alt= ra Ido-forumo, quale tu ipsa agis. 
(Altra-latere, me sempre pens= as, ke IdoCatalaOccitan esas same efikiva, ma plu diskreta, por korektiguri= )


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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=pk2Po4slxf5V5Yyf6xYspsgW1BUHUthp52_KPvmD1Ak X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB16720D8EFB084D8C10A80D911A4100DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Partaka No, me ne deziras prolongar ica diskuto. Me generale prefer= as uzar mea tempo che Wikipedio. Me nur dicos ke vua aserto, ke me sistema= le misuzis la vorto "quOn", dum yari, semblas a me neprobabla. Me ankore = ne komprenas, pro quo on sendus korektigi di mesaji che un forumo, ad altra= forumo, sen expliko, kuntexto o la originala mesajo. Kordiale JC _____= ___________________________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sent: 26 April 2017 20:16 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; = IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che I= doCatalaOccitan? No, kara James! Pos "linguo", nul-kaze "quo(n)" esas ko= rekta, nam "linguo" esas vorto determinita, quA (la vorto) bezonas "qua(n)"= . Plu klare: tu misuzas tal "quo(n)" preske sempre (e de multa yari ante nu= n). Me tote komprenas, ke tu havas tua motivi kredar, ke tal uzado esas jus= ta, nam, kontree, tu agus altra-maniere. Se tu advere deziras probar parkla= rigar ica temo, ni durez diskutar ol che Linguolisto, ube, forsan, plusa sa= mideani (Robert, Tiberio, Igor, Gilles-Philippe, edc) partoprenos olta per = sua mesaji. Adavane! --_000_DB6PR10MB16720D8EFB084D8C10A80D911A4100DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Partaka

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No, me ne deziras prolongar ica diskuto.  Me generale p= referas uzar mea tempo che Wikipedio.  Me nur dicos ke vua aserto, ke = me sistemale misuzis la vorto "quOn", dum yari, semblas a me nepr= obabla.


Me ankore ne komprenas, pro quo on sendus korek= tigi di mesaji che un forumo, ad altra forumo, sen expliko, kuntexto o la o= riginala mesajo.


Kordiale

JC

From: idolisto@= yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka quale= vistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto]
Sent:= 26 April 2017 20:16
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatala= Occitan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che= IdoCatalaOccitan?
 


No, kara James! Po= s "linguo", nul-kaze "quo(n)" esas korekta, nam "l= inguo" esas vorto determinita, quA (la vorto) bezonas "qua(n)&quo= t;. Plu klare: tu misuzas tal "quo(n)" preske sempre (e de multa= yari ante nun). Me tote komprenas, ke tu havas tua motivi kredar, ke tal u= zado esas justa, nam, kontree, tu agus altra-maniere. Se tu advere deziras = probar parklarigar ica temo, ni durez diskutar ol che Linguolisto, ube, fo= rsan, plusa samideani (Robert, Tiberio, Igor, Gilles-Philippe, edc) partopr= enos olta per sua mesaji. Adavane!
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=GJ7pmzUNZD283A9gqU52ou8aXEu9Xu6YlhDIY-p4XbWVld02W5e_V0k X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas From: Partaka ------=_Part_13622919_507126412.14932966696862 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bon jorno, James!=C2=A0Ne-dicinde, tua Ido-nivelo es un del maxim alta che = Idia. Tu esas Ido-modelo por nova (e ne tante nova) Ido-uzanti, yen pro quo= la misuzo, quAn me aludis, erorigas altra samideani, quo esas plu grava. K= a Wikipedio? Se me revizus, exemple, tua artikli ibe, me devus chanjar pres= ke omna tua "quo(n)" a "qua(n)", ma me ne volas agar tale: me preferas, ke = tu komprenez. Voluntez komprenar! Yen kurta texto che KGD:=C2=A0-------=C2= =A0(3) Quo reprezentas kozo ne determinita o fakto. Do lu ne povas havar pl= uralo,same kam ico, ito qui tre ofte preiras lu kom antecedenti.=C2=A0-----= --=C2=A0Do, "ulo, quo(n), to, quo(n), irrgo, quo(n), edc." (kozo ne-determin= ita), ma "linguo, qua(n), soldato, qua(n), misuzo, qua(n), aquo, qua(n), do= mo, qua(n), edc." (kozo determinita). =C2=A0 Altra-latere, la forumo IdoCat= alaOccitan (ICO) funcionas de multa yari ante nun, ed omnu savas quale ol f= uncionas. Irga interesati savas, ke me ofte publikigas (ed emendas) ibe pos= ibla erori, quin me renkontras en diversa Ido-forumi. La korektiguri esas n= e nur por l'erorinto, ma por ni omna. Omno esas en ordino ibe, e nulo altra= bezonesas. Same kam tu rikonocis tua "linguo, quon on komprenas -> linguo,= quAn on komprenas", omnu rikonocas sua vorti korektigita. E same kam tu qu= ik reaktis e demandis expliko de me (che Idolisto), omnu povas e darfas que= stionar me de irg altra forumi, se necesa. Me repetas, ke ICO semblas a me = loko plu diskreta por korektiguri; tamen, quale tu ipsa povas konstatar, me= havas nula problemo respondizar tua questioni che Idolisto, mem per plura = mesaji. Me regretas tua preska stulo-falo :-) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0(Partaka) = =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi=C2=A0-http:/= /es.groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=C2=A0-=C2=A0 -------=C2=A0= James Chandler skribis: =C2=A0 Kara Partaka No, me ne deziras prolon= gar ica diskuto. =C2=A0Me generale preferas uzar mea tempo che Wikipedio. = =C2=A0Me nur dicos ke vua aserto, ke me sistemale misuzis la vorto "quOn", = dum yari, semblas a me neprobabla. Me ankore ne komprenas, pro quo on sendu= s korektigi di mesaji che un forumo, ad altra forumo, sen expliko, kuntexto= o la originala mesajo. KordialeJC From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] = Sent: 26 April 2017 20:16 To: idolisto@yahoogrou= ps.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korekti= go che IdoCatalaOccitan?=C2=A0 No, kara James! 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Bon jorno, James! 
Ne-dicinde, tua Ido-nivelo es un del maxim alta che Id= ia. Tu esas Ido-modelo por nova (e ne tante nova) Ido-uzanti, yen pro quo l= a misuzo, quAn me aludis, erorigas altra samideani, quo esas plu grava. Ka = Wikipedio? Se me revizus, exemple, tua artikli ibe, me devus chanjar preske= omna tua "quo(n)" a "qua(n)", ma me ne volas agar tale: me preferas, ke tu= komprenez. Voluntez komprenar! Yen kurta texto che KGD: 
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(3) Quo reprezentas kozo ne determinita o fakto. Do = lu ne povas havar pluralo, same kam ico, ito qui tre ofte preiras lu kom an= tecedenti. 
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Do, "ulo, quo(n), to, = quo(n), irgo, quo(n), edc." (kozo ne-determinita), ma "linguo, qua(n), sold= ato, qua(n), misuzo, qua(n), aquo, qua(n), domo, qua(n), edc." (kozo determ= inita).  

Al= tra-latere, la forumo IdoCatalaOccitan (ICO) funcionas de multa yari ante n= un, ed omnu savas quale ol funcionas. Irga interesati savas, ke me ofte pub= likigas (ed emendas) ibe posibla erori, quin me renkontras en diversa Ido-f= orumi. La korektiguri esas ne nur por l'erorinto, ma por ni omna. Omno esas= en ordino ibe, e nulo altra bezonesas. Same kam tu rikonocis tua "linguo, = quon on komprenas -> linguo, quAn on komprenas", omnu rikonocas sua vort= i korektigita. E same kam tu quik reaktis e demandis expliko de me (che Ido= listo), omnu povas e darfas questionar me de irg altra forumi, se necesa. M= e repetas, ke ICO semblas a me loko plu diskreta por korektiguri; tamen, qu= ale tu ipsa povas konstatar, me havas nula problemo respondizar tua questio= ni che Idolisto, mem per plura mesaji. Me regretas tua preska stulo-falo :-= )  
 
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James Chandler skribis= :

 
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Kara Partaka

No, me ne dez= iras prolongar ica diskuto.  Me generale preferas uzar mea tempo che W= ikipedio.  Me nur dicos ke vua aserto, ke me sistemale misuzis la vort= o "quOn", dum yari, semblas a me neprobabla.

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Me ankore ne komprenas, pro quo on sendus korektigi di mesaji = che un forumo, ad altra forumo, sen expliko, kuntexto o la originala mesajo= .

Kordiale
JC

From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto]
Sent: 26 April 2017 20:16
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoo= groups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo c= he IdoCatalaOccitan?
 


No, kara James! Pos "linguo", n= ul-kaze "quo(n)" esas korekta, nam "linguo" esas vorto determinita, quA (la= vorto) bezonas "qua(n)". Plu klare: tu misuzas tal "quo(n)" preske sempre= (e de multa yari ante nun). Me tote komprenas, ke tu havas tua motivi kred= ar, ke tal uzado esas justa, nam, kontree, tu agus altra-maniere. Se tu adv= ere deziras probar parklarigar ica temo, ni durez diskutar ol che Linguoli= sto, ube, forsan, plusa samideani (Robert, Tiberio, Igor, Gilles-Philippe, = edc) partoprenos olta per sua mesaji. Adavane!
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=C0PpLKThXDq8h_so7qKvtmxLwwOyqnD_Mx3RmBjVfRA X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB167264D7695ED5B0436FD64FFA4100DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Partaka Me dezirus cesigar ica diskuto, ma omna nova mesajo de vu ko= ntenas nova surprizi. Semblas ke vu havas "abelo en vua boneto" pri ca "qu= On". Nulu deziras "erorigar" altra idisti. Mea artikli che Wikipedio ne = esas protektata: se oli kontenas vera erori, altru darfas korektigar oli. = Vu asertas ke multa artikli da me kontenas erori, sen ofrar mem un exemplo.= Semblas a me lo suba esas vua interpreto dil KGD; la konsilo en la KGD ne= semblas sat klara. Cetere, vu probas establisar ICO kom nabo di linguala = autoritato por omna Yahoo-forumi. Vu transsendas mesaji ad ICO ma ne ad Id= olisto. Tala konduto povus duktar a vua ekpulseso de Idolisto. Me opinion= as, se vu korektigas mesaji sendita ad Idolisto, sendez la korektigi ad Ido= listo, ne ad altra forumo, ube la erorinto ne esas membro. Kordiale JC __= ______________________________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sent: 27 April 2017 13:38 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.co= m; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo ch= e IdoCatalaOccitan? Bon jorno, James! Ne-dicinde, tua Ido-nivelo es un d= el maxim alta che Idia. Tu esas Ido-modelo por nova (e ne tante nova) Ido-u= zanti, yen pro quo la misuzo, quAn me aludis, erorigas altra samideani, quo= esas plu grava. Ka Wikipedio? Se me revizus, exemple, tua artikli ibe, me = devus chanjar preske omna tua "quo(n)" a "qua(n)", ma me ne volas agar tale= : me preferas, ke tu komprenez. Voluntez komprenar! Yen kurta texto che KGD= : ------- (3) Quo reprezentas kozo ne determinita o fakto. Do lu ne povas h= avar pluralo, same kam ico, ito qui tre ofte preiras lu kom antecedenti. --= ----- Do, "ulo, quo(n), to, quo(n), irgo, quo(n), edc." (kozo ne-determinit= a), ma "linguo, qua(n), soldato, qua(n), misuzo, qua(n), aquo, qua(n), domo= , qua(n), edc." (kozo determinita). Altra-latere, la forumo IdoCatalaOccit= an (ICO) funcionas de multa yari ante nun, ed omnu savas quale ol funcionas= . Irga interesati savas, ke me ofte publikigas (ed emendas) ibe posibla ero= ri, quin me renkontras en diversa Ido-forumi. La korektiguri esas ne nur po= r l'erorinto, ma por ni omna. Omno esas en ordino ibe, e nulo altra bezones= as. Same kam tu rikonocis tua "linguo, quon on komprenas -> linguo, quAn on= komprenas", omnu rikonocas sua vorti korektigita. E same kam tu quik reakt= is e demandis expliko de me (che Idolisto), omnu povas e darfas questionar = me de irg altra forumi, se necesa. Me repetas, ke ICO semblas a me loko plu= diskreta por korektiguri; tamen, quale tu ipsa povas konstatar, me havas n= ula problemo respondizar tua questioni che Idolisto, mem per plura mesaji. = Me regretas tua preska stulo-falo :-) --_000_DB6PR10MB167264D7695ED5B0436FD64FFA4100DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Partaka


Me dezirus cesigar ica diskuto, ma omna nova mesajo de vu kon= tenas nova surprizi.  Semblas ke vu havas "abelo en vua boneto&qu= ot; pri ca "quOn".  Nulu deziras "erorigar" altra = idisti.


Mea artikli che Wikipedio ne esas protektata: s= e oli kontenas vera erori, altru darfas korektigar oli.  Vu asertas ke= multa artikli da me kontenas erori, sen ofrar mem un exemplo.  Sembla= s a me lo suba esas vua interpreto dil KGD; la konsilo en la KGD ne sembla= s sat klara.


Cetere, vu probas establisar ICO kom nabo di linguala= autoritato por omna Yahoo-forumi.  Vu transsendas mesaji ad ICO ma ne= ad Idolisto.  Tala konduto povus duktar a vua ekpulseso de Idolisto. =  Me opinionas, se vu korektigas mesaji sendita ad Idolisto, sendez la= korektigi ad Idolisto, ne ad altra forumo, ube la erorinto ne esas membro.=

Kordiale
JC

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From= : idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf o= f Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sent: 27 April 2017 13:38
To: idolisto@yahoogroups= .com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] K= a korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?
 

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Bon jorno, James! 
Ne-dicinde, tua Ido-nivelo es un del maxim alta che Idia. Tu esas Ido-mo= delo por nova (e ne tante nova) Ido-uzanti, yen pro quo la misuzo, quAn me = aludis, erorigas altra samideani, quo esas plu grava. Ka Wikipedio? Se me = revizus, exemple, tua artikli ibe, me devus chanjar preske omna tua "q= uo(n)" a "qua(n)", ma me ne volas agar tale: me preferas, ke= tu komprenez. Voluntez komprenar! Yen kurta texto che KGD: 
------- 
(3) Quo reprezentas kozo ne determinita o fak= to. Do lu ne povas havar pluralo, same kam ico, ito qui tre ofte preiras lu= kom antecedenti. 
-= ------ 
Do, "ulo= , quo(n), to, quo(n), irgo, quo(n), edc." (kozo ne-determinita), ma &q= uot;linguo, qua(n), soldato, qua(n), misuzo, qua(n), aquo, qua(n), domo, qu= a(n), edc." (kozo determinita).  

Altra-latere, la forumo IdoCatalaOccitan (IC= O) funcionas de multa yari ante nun, ed omnu savas quale ol funcionas. Irga= interesati savas, ke me ofte publikigas (ed emendas) ibe posibla erori, q= uin me renkontras en diversa Ido-forumi. La korektiguri esas ne nur por l'e= rorinto, ma por ni omna. Omno esas en ordino ibe, e nulo altra bezonesas. S= ame kam tu rikonocis tua "linguo, quon on komprenas -> linguo, quAn= on komprenas", omnu rikonocas sua vorti korektigita. E same kam tu q= uik reaktis e demandis expliko de me (che Idolisto), omnu povas e darfas qu= estionar me de irg altra forumi, se necesa. Me repetas, ke ICO semblas a me= loko plu diskreta por korektiguri; tamen, quale tu ipsa povas konstatar, = me havas nula problemo respondizar tua questioni che Idolisto, mem per plur= a mesaji. Me regretas tua preska stulo-falo :-) 
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=lnx4Gdhsb_kqqYVPPrmD03IOK60VEebW-CVWzFx0XrI X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB167297564D7606AA01FA927DDA4100DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .. Semblas a me ke lo suba esas vua interpreto .. .. por evitar plusa kore= ktigo che ICO! ________________________________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups= .com on behalf of James Chandler idojc@hotmail.c= om [idolisto] Sent: 27 April 2017 14:18 To: idol= isto@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOcci= tan? Kara Partaka Me dezirus cesigar ica diskuto, ma omna nova mesajo= de vu kontenas nova surprizi. Semblas ke vu havas "abelo en vua boneto" p= ri ca "quOn". Nulu deziras "erorigar" altra idisti. Mea artikli che Wiki= pedio ne esas protektata: se oli kontenas vera erori, altru darfas korektig= ar oli. Vu asertas ke multa artikli da me kontenas erori, sen ofrar mem un= exemplo. Semblas a me lo suba esas vua interpreto dil KGD; la konsilo en = la KGD ne semblas sat klara. --_000_DB6PR10MB167297564D7606AA01FA927DDA4100DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

.. Sembla= s a me ke lo suba esas vua interpreto ..


.= . por evitar plusa korektigo che ICO!

From: idolisto@yahoogroups.co= m on behalf of James Chandler idojc@hotmai= l.com [idolisto]
Sent: 27 April= 2017 14:18
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:= [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?
 



Mea artikli che Wikipe= dio ne esas protektata: se oli kontenas vera erori, altru darfas korektigar= oli.  Vu asertas ke multa artikli da me kontenas erori, sen ofrar mem= un exemplo.  Semblas a me lo suba esas vua interpreto dil KGD; la kon= silo en la KGD ne semblas sat klara.

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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=pj_OANPK2gywXbiQuXvTj1ZdwwtXP4sWqP6mQ8kepWzasaOWtq8PYoU X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas From: Partaka ------=_Part_13784159_489309682.14933099904439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha, no, kara James! Nula abelo en mea boneto: tu questionas me e me respond= as a tu, tu opinionas e me opinionas, tu demandas de me e me koncesas a tu,= se yusta. Atencez! Me nule asertis, ke tu deziras erorigar Idisti, ma nur = ke to ya eventas pro tua quon-misuzo. Se to, quOn me dicas pri tal misuzo, = esas nur mea interpreturo, voluntez montrar a me texti da nia maxim modelat= ra samideani (Coutural, De Beaufront, Jespersen, Juste, edc.), ube li uzas = tal "quo(n)" quale tu uzas ol. (Pri tua erori en artikli di nia Wikipedio, = me referas, nur e precize, a tua "quo(n)" ibe, do nul aparta exemplo esas n= ecesa, nam olta trovesas omn-ube). Altra-latere, nula ekpulso esos bezonata= : homi povas e darfas dialogar tote libere, se polite e respektoze. E pri t= ua demando de me, me volunte publikigos en Idolisto mea korektiguri: forsan= to povas esar advere plu helpiva e mem plu efikiva. Danko, kara James: til= nun, nulu demandabis to de me. Me probos komplezar tu. =C2=A0=C2=A0(Partak= a) =C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mundi=C2=A0-=C2=A0=C2=A0htt= p://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=C2=A0-=C2=A0 El Jueves= 27 de abril de 2017 15:18, "James Chandler idojc@hotmail.com [idolisto]" <= idolisto@yahoogroups.com> escribi=C3=B3: =C2=A0 Kara Partaka Me dez= irus cesigar ica diskuto, ma omna nova mesajo de vu kontenas nova surprizi.= =C2=A0Semblas ke vu havas "abelo en vua boneto" pri ca "quOn". =C2=A0Nulu = deziras "erorigar" altra idisti. Mea artikli che Wikipedio ne esas protekta= ta: se oli kontenas vera erori, altru darfas korektigar oli. =C2=A0Vu asert= as ke multa artikli da me kontenas erori, sen ofrar mem un exemplo. =C2=A0S= emblas a me lo suba esas vua interpreto dil KGD; la konsilo en la KGD ne se= mblas sat klara. Cetere, vu probas establisar ICO kom nabo di linguala auto= ritato por omna Yahoo-forumi. =C2=A0Vu transsendas mesaji ad ICO ma ne ad I= dolisto. =C2=A0Tala konduto povus duktar a vua ekpulseso de Idolisto. =C2= =A0Me opinionas, se vu korektigas mesaji sendita ad Idolisto, sendez la kor= ektigi ad Idolisto, ne ad altra forumo, ube la erorinto ne esas membro. Kor= dialeJC From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf= of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] S= ent: 27 April 2017 13:38 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yah= oogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?=C2= =A0 Bon jorno, James!=C2=A0Ne-dicinde, tua Ido-nivelo es un del maxim alta= che Idia. Tu esas Ido-modelo por nova (e ne tante nova) Ido-uzanti, yen pr= o quo la misuzo, quAn me aludis, erorigas altra samideani, quo esas plu gra= va. Ka Wikipedio? Se me revizus, exemple, tua artikli ibe, me devus chanjar= preske omna tua "quo(n)" a "qua(n)", ma me ne volas agar tale: me preferas= , ke tu komprenez. Voluntez komprenar! Yen kurta texto che KGD:=C2=A0------= -=C2=A0(3) Quo reprezentas kozo ne deterrminita o fakto. Do lu ne povas hava= r pluralo, same kam ico, ito qui tre ofte preiras lu kom antecedenti.=C2=A0= -------=C2=A0Do, "ulo, quo(n), to, quo(nn), irgo, quo(n), edc." (kozo ne-det= erminita), ma "linguo, qua(n), soldato, qua(n), misuzo, qua(n), aquo, qua(n= ), domo, qua(n), edc." (kozo determinita). =C2=A0 Altra-latere, la forumo I= doCatalaOccitan (ICO) funcionas de multa yari ante nun, ed omnu savas quale= ol funcionas. Irga interesati savas, ke me ofte publikigas (ed emendas) ib= e posibla erori, quin me renkontras en diversa Ido-forumi. 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Ha, no, kara James! Nula abelo en mea boneto: tu questio= nas me e me respondas a tu, tu opinionas e me opinionas, tu demandas de me = e me koncesas a tu, se yusta. Atencez! Me nule asertis, ke tu deziras erori= gar Idisti, ma nur ke to ya eventas pro tua quon-misuzo. Se to, quOn me dic= as pri tal misuzo, esas nur mea interpreturo, voluntez montrar a me texti d= a nia maxim modelatra samideani (Coutural, De Beaufront, Jespersen, Juste, = edc.), ube li uzas tal "quo(n)" quale tu uzas ol. (Pri tua erori en artikli= di nia Wikipedio, me referas, nur e precize, a tua "quo(n)" ibe, do nul ap= arta exemplo esas necesa, nam olta trovesas omn-ube).

<= div id=3D"yiv6475716190yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493306916646_3508">Altra-latere, = nula ekpulso esos bezonata: homi povas e darfas dialogar tote libere, se po= lite e respektoze. E pri tua demando de me, me volunte publikigos en Idolis= to mea korektiguri: forsan to povas esar advere plu helpiva e mem plu efiki= va. Danko, kara James: til nun, nulu demandabis to de me. Me probos komplez= ar tu.  
 (Partaka)  


El Jueves 27 de abril de 2017= 15:18, "James Chandler idojc@hotmail.com [idolisto]" escribi=C3=B3:


 


Kara Partaka

Me = dezirus cesigar ica diskuto, ma omna nova mesajo de vu kontenas nova surpri= zi.  Semblas ke vu havas "abelo en vua boneto" pri ca "quOn".  Nu= lu deziras "erorigar" altra idisti.

<= div>Mea artikli che Wikipedio ne esas protektata: se oli kontenas vera eror= i, altru darfas korektigar oli.  Vu asertas ke multa artikli da me kon= tenas erori, sen ofrar mem un exemplo.  Semblas a me lo suba esas vua = interpreto dil KGD; la konsilo en la KGD ne semblas sat klara.

Cetere, vu probas establisar ICO kom nabo di linguala autori= tato por omna Yahoo-forumi.  Vu transsendas mesaji ad ICO ma ne ad Ido= listo.  Tala konduto povus duktar a vua ekpulseso de Idolisto.  M= e opinionas, se vu korektigas mesaji sendita ad Idolisto, sendez la korekt= igi ad Idolisto, ne ad altra forumo, ube la erorinto ne esas membro.
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Kordiale
JC

From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 27 April 2017 13:38
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogro= ups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che = IdoCatalaOccitan?
 

=
Bon jorno, James!&= nbsp;
Ne-dic= inde, tua Ido-nivelo es un del maxim alta che Idia. Tu esas Ido-modelo por = nova (e ne tante nova) Ido-uzanti, yen pro quo la misuzo, quAn me aludis, e= rorigas altra samideani, quo esas plu grava. Ka Wikipedio? Se me revizus, = exemple, tua artikli ibe, me devus chanjar preske omna tua "quo(n)" a "qua(= n)", ma me ne volas agar tale: me preferas, ke tu komprenez. Voluntez kompr= enar! Yen kurta texto che KGD: 
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(3) Quo reprezentas kozo= ne determinita o fakto. Do lu ne povas havar pluralo, same kam ico, ito qu= i tre ofte preiras lu kom antecedenti. 
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Do, "ulo, quo(n= ), to, quo(n), irgo, quo(n), edc." (kozo ne-determinita), ma "linguo, qua(n= ), soldato, qua(n), misuzo, qua(n), aquo, qua(n), domo, qua(n), edc." (koz= o determinita).  

=
<= span id=3D"yiv6475716190yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493292982674_10577">Altra-latere= , la forumo IdoCatalaOccitan (ICO) funcionas de multa yari ante nun, ed omn= u savas quale ol funcionas. Irga interesati savas, ke me ofte publikigas (= ed emendas) ibe posibla erori, quin me renkontras en diversa Ido-forumi. La= korektiguri esas ne nur por l'erorinto, ma por ni omna. Omno esas en ordin= o ibe, e nulo altra bezonesas. Same kam tu rikonocis tua "linguo, quon on k= omprenas -> linguo, quAn on komprenas", omnu rikonocas sua vorti korekt= igita. E same kam tu quik reaktis e demandis expliko de me (che Idolisto), = omnu povas e darfas questionar me de irg altra forumi, se necesa. Me repeta= s, ke ICO semblas a me loko plu diskreta por korektiguri; tamen, quale tu i= psa povas konstatar, me havas nula problemo respondizar tua questioni che = Idolisto, mem per plura mesaji. Me regretas tua preska stulo-falo :-) =

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Me publikigis la fino di La Sorcisto de Oz; ico esas anke la fino di mea blogo e di mea laboro por Ido. Me lasos ol restar dum plura semani, e pose forigos ol.

Amikala saluti,
Brian
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Antonio. De: "Brian = Drake mondoidala@yahoo.com [idolisto]" Para: ya= hoogroups ; yahoogroups ; yahoogroups Enviado: Viernes 28 de= abril de 2017 3:38 Asunto: [idolisto] Fino di La Sorcisto de Oz =C2= =A0 Me publikigis la fino di La Sorcisto de Oz; ico esas anke la fino di = mea blogo e di mea laboro por Ido. Me lasos ol restar dum plura semani, e p= ose forigos ol. 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Kar Brian,

vere esas tre mala novajo po= r ni e por nia mikra movado, ma irgakaze me (ni) nur povas gratular tu pro = tua grandega e bonega laboro per tradukar ica tre konocata libro a nia ling= uo. 

Qua= le on dicas kustumale, omna pordi di Ido esas apertita por tu, irgakande tu= decidez itere retrovenar. 

Amikala e dankema saluti de La Mancha.

Antonio.

<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">De: "Brian Drake mondoidala@yah= oo.com [idolisto]"
Para: yahoogroups ; yahoogroups ; yahoogroups &= lt;idolisto@yahoogroups.com>
= Enviado: Viernes 28 de abril de 2017 3:38
Asunto: [idolisto] Fino di La Sorcisto de Oz=

 
Me publikigis la fino di La Sorcisto de Oz; ic= o esas anke la fino di mea blogo e di mea laboro por Ido. Me lasos ol resta= r dum plura semani, e pose forigos ol.

Amikala saluti,Brian
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=24528831; y=Z1oi-NabSxlsrF4cBGN45WYyOqMezpYFBds7Z_lxH10 X-Yahoo-Profile: idojc From: James Chandler --_000_DB6PR10MB16725A4C4A1C8EEF4A245A0CCA4130DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kara Partaka Se rezulto di ca kelke jenanta diskuto esas ke vu future send= os vua korektigi anke ad Idolisto, me certe aceptos e bonvenigos to. Me an= ke konsilus vu ne vartar tro longe ante sendar la korektigo, por ke homi ne= mustez serchar tro longe en sua memoro o l'arkivi la eroroza mesajo; e se = posibla, citar la tota frazo, qua kontenas la eroro. Kordiale JC ________= ________________________ From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sent: 27 April 2017 17:18 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; Ido= CatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoC= atalaOccitan? Ha, no, kara James! Nula abelo en mea boneto: tu questiona= s me e me respondas a tu, tu opinionas e me opinionas, tu demandas de me e = me koncesas a tu, se yusta. Atencez! Me nule asertis, ke tu deziras eroriga= r Idisti, ma nur ke to ya eventas pro tua quon-misuzo. Se to, quOn me dicas= pri tal misuzo, esas nur mea interpreturo, voluntez montrar a me texti da = nia maxim modelatra samideani (Coutural, De Beaufront, Jespersen, Juste, ed= c.), ube li uzas tal "quo(n)" quale tu uzas ol. (Pri tua erori en artikli d= i nia Wikipedio, me referas, nur e precize, a tua "quo(n)" ibe, do nul apar= ta exemplo esas necesa, nam olta trovesas omn-ube). Altra-latere, nula ekp= ulso esos bezonata: homi povas e darfas dialogar tote libere, se polite e r= espektoze. E pri tua demando de me, me volunte publikigos en Idolisto mea k= orektiguri: forsan to povas esar advere plu helpiva e mem plu efikiva. Dank= o, kara James: til nun, nulu demandabis to de me. Me probos komplezar tu. --_000_DB6PR10MB16725A4C4A1C8EEF4A245A0CCA4130DB6PR10MB1672EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kara Partaka


Se rezulto di ca kelke jenanta diskuto esas ke vu future sen= dos vua korektigi anke ad Idolisto, me certe aceptos e bonvenigos to.  = ;Me anke konsilus vu ne vartar tro longe ante sendar la korektigo, por ke h= omi ne mustez serchar tro longe en sua memoro o l'arkivi la eroroza m= esajo; e se posibla, citar la tota frazo, qua kontenas la eroro.

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Kordiale
JC

From: idolisto@yahoogroups.com &l= t;idolisto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@yahoo.es= [idolisto]
Sent: 27 April 2017= 17:18
To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroup= s.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?=
 


Ha, no, kara James! Nula abelo e= n mea boneto: tu questionas me e me respondas a tu, tu opinionas e me opini= onas, tu demandas de me e me koncesas a tu, se yusta. Atencez! Me nule ase= rtis, ke tu deziras erorigar Idisti, ma nur ke to ya eventas pro tua quon-m= isuzo. Se to, quOn me dicas pri tal misuzo, esas nur mea interpreturo, volu= ntez montrar a me texti da nia maxim modelatra samideani (Coutural, De Bea= ufront, Jespersen, Juste, edc.), ube li uzas tal "quo(n)" quale t= u uzas ol. (Pri tua erori en artikli di nia Wikipedio, me referas, nur e pr= ecize, a tua "quo(n)" ibe, do nul aparta exemplo esas necesa, nam= olta trovesas omn-ube).

Altra-latere, nula ekpulso esos bezonat= a: homi povas e darfas dialogar tote libere, se polite e respektoze. E pri = tua demando de me, me volunte publikigos en Idolisto mea korektiguri: forsa= n to povas esar advere plu helpiva e mem plu efikiva. Danko, kara James: t= il nun, nulu demandabis to de me. Me probos komplezar tu.
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X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=151141225; y=pTF6RD_vWLlebQR-qfuNiMGmbc8j2O6-8yPdOrWC6KuGh_ICYGQbKhM X-Yahoo-Profile: qualevistandas From: Partaka ------=_Part_10782250_2094240131.14934011717262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable O.K., James!=C2=A0Quoniam la rubriko "Kelka korektiguri" prontigesas da mea= samkorpano (idovalencia), qua laboras nur en la forumo IdoCatalaOccitan, m= e ipsa (qualevistandas) adaptigos omno por ke Idolisto recevez sua parto.= =C2=A0 =C2=A0(Partaka)=C2=A0=C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/posta_Mu= ndi=C2=A0-=C2=A0http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/IdoCatalaOccitan=C2=A0-=C2= =A0 El Viernes 28 de abril de 2017 11:42, "James Chandler idojc@hotma= il.com [idolisto]" escribi=C3=B3: =C2=A0 K= ara Partaka Se rezulto di ca kelke jenanta diskuto esas ke vu future sendos= vua korektigi anke ad Idolisto, me certe aceptos e bonvenigos to. =C2=A0Me= anke konsilus vu ne vartar tro longe ante sendar la korektigo, por ke homi= ne mustez serchar tro longe en=C2=A0sua memoro o l'arkivi la eroroza mesaj= o; e se posibla, citar la tota frazo, qua kontenas la eroro. KordialeJC Fr= om: idolisto@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Partak= a qualevistandas@yahoo.es [idolisto] Sent: 27 Ap= ril 2017 17:18 To: idolisto@yahoogroups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.c= om Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?=C2=A0 Ha, no= , kara James! Nula abelo en mea boneto: tu questionas me e me respondas a t= u, tu opinionas e me opinionas, tu demandas de me e me koncesas a tu, se yu= sta. Atencez! Me nule asertis, ke tu deziras erorigar Idisti, ma nur ke to = ya eventas pro tua quon-misuzo. Se to, quOn me dicas pri tal misuzo, esas n= ur mea interpreturo, voluntez montrar a me texti da nia maxim modelatra sam= ideani (Coutural, De Beaufront, Jespersen, Juste, edc.), ube li uzas tal "q= uo(n)" quale tu uzas ol. (Pri tua erori en artikli di nia Wikipedio, me ref= eras, nur e precize, a tua "quo(n)" ibe, do nul aparta exemplo esas necesa,= nam olta trovesas omn-ube). Altra-latere, nula ekpulso esos bezonata: homi= povas e darfas dialogar tote libere, se polite e respektoze. E pri tua dem= ando de me, me volunte publikigos en Idolisto mea korektiguri: forsan to po= vas esar advere plu helpiva e mem plu efikiva. Danko, kara James: til nun, = nulu demandabis to de me. 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O.K., James! 
Quoniam la rubriko "Kelka korektiguri" prontigesas da mea = samkorpano (idovalencia), qua laboras nur en la forumo IdoCatalaOccitan, me= ipsa (qualevistandas) adaptigos omno por ke Idolisto recevez sua parto.&nb= sp;

=
 (= Partaka) 
 


El Viernes 28 = de abril de 2017 11:42, "James Chandler idojc@hotmail.com [idolisto]" escribi=C3=B3:


 
Se rezulto di ca= kelke jenanta diskuto esas ke vu future sendos vua korektigi anke ad Idoli= sto, me certe aceptos e bonvenigos to.  Me anke konsilus vu ne vartar = tro longe ante sendar la korektigo, por ke homi ne mustez serchar tro longe= en sua memoro o l'arkivi la eroroza mesajo; e se posibla, citar la t= ota frazo, qua kontenas la eroro.

Kord= iale
JC

From: idolisto@yahoogroups.= com on behalf of Partaka qualevistandas@ya= hoo.es [idolisto]
Se= nt: 27 April 2017 17:18
To: idolisto@yahoogro= ups.com; IdoCatalaOccitan@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [idolisto] Ka korektigo che IdoCatalaOccitan?
 


Ha, no, kara James! Nula abelo en mea boneto: tu questionas me e me respo= ndas a tu, tu opinionas e me opinionas, tu demandas de me e me koncesas a = tu, se yusta. Atencez! Me nule asertis, ke tu deziras erorigar Idisti, ma n= ur ke to ya eventas pro tua quon-misuzo. Se to, quOn me dicas pri tal misuz= o, esas nur mea interpreturo, voluntez montrar a me texti da nia maxim mode= latra samideani (Coutural, De Beaufront, Jespersen, Juste, edc.), ube li u= zas tal "quo(n)" quale tu uzas ol. (Pri tua erori en artikli di nia Wikiped= io, me referas, nur e precize, a tua "quo(n)" ibe, do nul aparta exemplo es= as necesa, nam olta trovesas omn-ube).

Altra-late= re, nula ekpulso esos bezonata: homi povas e darfas dialogar tote libere, s= e polite e respektoze. E pri tua demando de me, me volunte publikigos en Id= olisto mea korektiguri: forsan to povas esar advere plu helpiva e mem plu = efikiva. Danko, kara James: til nun, nulu demandabis to de me. Me probos ko= mplezar tu.
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Kara amiki,

yen ke che mea urbo esas hodie tre pluvoza dio e por amuzar n= i ed esar itere kelke infantala, me skribis mea triesma mikra-rakonto.

Amikala e pluvoza saluto!